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Melbourne Rising 2018

Discussion in 'National Rugby Championship (NRC)' started by Scooter, Jul 4, 2018.

  1. Scooter Alex Ross (28)

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    So there isn't a lot of Melbourne in the Rising this season or should that be Rising in Melbourne?

    Round 1 Sat 1 Sept v Fiji Drua Ratu Cakobau Park, Nausori 3pm
    Round 2 Sun 9 Sept v Qld Country at Mike Carney Park, Townsville 3pm
    Round 3 Sat 15 Sept v NSW Country at Glen Willow Sports Stadium, Mudgee 1pm
    Round 4 Sat 22 Sept v Brisbane City at Bailey Reserve, Adelaide 12:30pm
    Round 5 Sat 29 Sept v Canberra Vikings at Viking Park, Canberra 7pm
    Round 6 Sun 7 Oct v Western Force GMHBA Stadium, Geelong at 3pm
    Round 7 Sun 14 Oct v Sydney at St Patrick's College, Ballarat 1pm

    So home games in Adelaide, Geelong and Ballarat. So looks like a road trip or two coming up. St Patrick's is my old school so hopefully I can make that one.

    Good to see the competition taking matches to new locations.
  2. Mr Wobbly Arch Winning (36)

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    I'll try and get to the Ballarat game. A bit disappointed and somewhat bewildered that there won't be any games in Melbourne.
  3. RugbyReg Stirling Mortlock (74)

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    that's a fair bit of bloody travel!
  4. Scooter Alex Ross (28)

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    It is a truckload of travel Reg. 2 countries, 4 states and 1 territory.
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  5. Rebel man Herbert Moran (7)

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    Any idea what our squad will look like?
  6. Brumby Runner Phil Kearns (64)

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    Like the Rebels minus a few Wallabies I'd think.
  7. Rebels3 Dick Tooth (41)

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    Unlike the past 2 seasons I want to see teams put out every week that are a little bit more towards getting results than developmental, a strong balance between the two. The past few have swung too far towards development than results, our players junior or senior need more matches in their seasons (minus the wallabies players) to gain a better feel for the game.

    Wouldn’t mind seeing the following, a combo of youngsters, players that need to develop parts of their game and some senior players for experience to the youngsters.

    Sa’aga
    Rangi
    Ainsley
    Phillip
    Jeffries
    RHP
    Hardwick
    Cottrell/Leota
    Goddard
    Debreczini
    Tupou
    Meakes/Tuipulotu
    Tuipulotu/English
    Naivalu
    Maddocks/English

    Or something fairly similar
  8. Rebel man Herbert Moran (7)

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    Seeings that Aus rugby and the Rebels see Maddocks as a fly half wouldn’t it make sense for him to play 10 for the Rising?
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  9. Rebels3 Dick Tooth (41)

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    I don't believe Maddocks will end up as a 10, the Rebels most likely signing Toomua and Hodge playing the season out as 10 i think indicate this. He might get a run this campaign at 10, just to expose him to something else or necessity but don't think it long term it's what will happen.

    But you never know
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  10. Rebel man Herbert Moran (7)

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    What makes you think they have had a change of heart? And both he and Hodge have been shuffled around a lot, where would you say their best positions are?
  11. Rebels3 Dick Tooth (41)

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    Maddocks natural position in my eyes is full back, Hodge deployed as a defensive wing or 12/13 (depending on the centre partners attributes).

    Too late to move him now but the best make shift 10 we could have would be DHP. He's got a passing game, kicking game but most importantly time on the ball.
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  12. Getwithme Alex Ross (28)

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    Yeah I'm a fan of Maddocks in fullback and I think he would've learnt a great deal this year from DHP. I don't see the transition to 10 but I see a really top class fullback developing
  13. Getwithme Alex Ross (28)

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    Also on the developmental v results line, IMO results help development. I.E. pick strong NRC sides, see who is up to the challenge and if they are that bodes well for combinations and their development, as well as prepping the side for Super Rugby. Players who are not up to that level have the opportunity to continue to get better, through the other pathways (URC, Club Rugby, 7's tournaments) and when they are maybe a year or two older, will be better for the experience and ready for the opportunity.

    Could be wrong but I don't think many teams in the ITM cup pick development sides. They usually pick the best they have available.
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  14. Rebels3 Dick Tooth (41)

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    Agreed, it's something the NRC could improve on. Last couple of years its annoyed me that players like Faingaa, English, etc. have been deliberately left out of NRC sides the Rising have picked for younger players. I get that you need a good combo of experienced players and youth but the aspect of learning how to play with each other/combos is very underrated by Aus teams. Each team at least loses 5-6-7 players to Wallaby camp, these spots should be taken by youngsters the rest should be the best available in their spots.
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  15. Jerry West Sydney Middleton (9)

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    1. Faulkner
    2. Rangi
    3. Talakai
    4. Phillips
    5. Jeffries
    6. RHP
    7. Hardwick
    8. Cottrell
    9. Ruru
    10.
    11. Naivalu
    12. Meakes
    13. English
    14. Tupou
    15. Maddocks

    16. Charles
    17. Sa’aga
    18. Ainsley
    19. Haangana
    20. Leota
    21. Goddard
    22. Tuipolotu
    23.

    It will be a quality outfit if they put this team together
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  16. swingpass Jim Lenehan (48)

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    the 10 question is intriguing, No McGregor (Force) no Debra (Northland) no Adams (Southland) so leaves Maddocks (who isnt a 10) and who else / some one from Sydney Shute Shield, is there anyone playing Dewar who might be reasonable. Not Llyod J agai
    again !
  17. WorkingClassRugger Mark Ella (57)

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    Rohan Saifaloi from Southern Districts would be worth a look. I've always wondered why he's never had an opportunity at a higher level.
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  18. Getwithme Alex Ross (28)

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    I can confirm Jake Stratchan from Sunnybank in Brisbane is playing for the Rising this year. Stratchan plays 10 and has featured in the NRC sporadically for the last couple of seasons for Brisbane City. He's about 21 and his strengths would lie in his passing, support play and he doesn't mind taking the ball to the line. Here's a highlight video I found.
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  19. amirite Chilla Wilson (44)

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    Apart from that Quins #10 (Peter Breen) has played plenty of Mitre 10 cup and I'm sure Melbourne's #10 will be an ample back up.
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  20. swingpass Jim Lenehan (48)

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    ^^^^^^^ thanks.

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