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NRC Sevens

Discussion in 'National Rugby Championship (NRC)' started by p.Tah, Jan 4, 2016.

  1. Ozee316 Ward Prentice (10)

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    A six tournament series could include 3 daytime daytime(weekend) and 3 nighttime (midweek) tournaments which are timed to not clash with World Series Tournaments.

    Possible Schedule:
    1 second to last weekend in November;
    2 midweek before Dubai Sevens;
    3 weekend after Cape Town Sevens.
    4 Midweek of the second week of January
    5 Second to last weekend in January
    6 Midweek before Sydney Sevens

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  2. Ozee316 Ward Prentice (10)

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    You don't necessarily need to create new tournaments but try and shift existing ones to fit the dates and get Shute Shield and NRC clubs to enter teams. Get a points system going and see how it grows from there. I would think some tournaments would see the benefits in aligning themselves with a series that could get more growth.

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  3. Ozee316 Ward Prentice (10)

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  4. WorkingClassRugger Steve Williams (59)

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    It still comes down to whether you're using it for development or building commercial value. While a number of these events are well run and of high standard they really aren't set up to provide the backbone of a commercial venture.

    If you're using them as primarily development opportunities then you don't need them to move. Set up say 8 Olympic Training Centres. Based in the major centres. Then designate x number of these events and enter said OTCs in the elite bracket. Under this set up you have 8 centres running both a mens and womens squad. On top of that you have 8 or so events designated specifically for development and national selection.

    If you're after a commercial venture you need to provide the market with a product of high enough quality to have value added. It needs to be seen as the best available standard available. It needs to be both of high entertainment and of enough substance to be attractive.

    For mine, that's some sort of Summer 10s (11s) league over a 6 week period. Tens provides the open nature that fosters expansive play. But has the structure that gives it a bit more rythmn. You could also expand it over an hour if you wanted to. You could easily produce a product that spans 1-1.5 hours.
  5. Dave Beat Paul McLean (56)

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    So who are the players?
    The players who start their 7s in Feb, then play Shute, then pay NRC then play the summer sevens before pre season starts in the guest half of Jan.
    I like the idea but think this thread needs to change - improve promote existing sevens.
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  6. Ozee316 Ward Prentice (10)

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    Sevens is becoming more specialised. Players will welcome the chance to play at semi-pro level (NRC/7s) for 5 months from August to January.

    There will also be the opportunity for crossover athletes in the sevens circuit from sprinters to league players.

    It would be a rare player would play from March to January anyway.

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  7. Dave Beat Paul McLean (56)

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    I don't doubt that it is, the Marlins and the Rats have a very strong sevens focus and compete at a high level in the pre season comps.
    Manly has had players in & training with the sevens / floating around the squad for a while now.

    Rats also likewise and had Boyd Killingworth stepped up this year.

    It is only Semi Pro if players are being paid - who is going to fund it.
    I still say it is going to be very hard to find time, fit it in and manage the players game time - they need an off season.

    I Like To Watch - you are also have a bit of knowledge with regards to the strength of a few of the club 7's teams, chime in with your thoughts.

    I say lift the comps we'd got would be the first step.
    Then have 1 or 2 National Comps a season a bit like Touch Footy Australia up at Port Macquarie.

    I like the idea, but the name of the thread aint sitting right with me. I think some clubs will do it, and also compete far better than the NRC team they are associated with - purely because systems are in place and they take it seriously.
  8. Ozee316 Ward Prentice (10)

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    These three premier evens could be moved one month later and be able to include both NRC and premier Shute Shield teams. One of these competitions major selling points is as a preparation for the World Series for international development teams so if two were moved to November just before the first leg and one moved to January just before the Australiasian leg they could be joined by 3 more Australian tournaments preferably from Adelaide, Perth and Brisbane, some of which are played under lights.

    Serving multiple goals of:
    - aligning the tournaments with the World Series as warm up tournaments
    - allowing Shute Shield and NRC teams to enter
    - Allowing for the creation of an Australian 'Series'
    - bringing more money and exposure to the local cities where they are held
    - Developing players for the national team
    - giving more players a chance to play semi professionally over Summer
    - Adding the the ARU broadcast deal
  9. Ozee316 Ward Prentice (10)

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    My idea of a possible timetable for six Australian Sevens tournaments. Tournaments could be run by local unions and organisations and welcome international entries. The timing is important because it allows participation of Shute Shield teams, NRC teams, World Series development teams and a wide variety of other entrants to make for truly inclusive and special tournaments.

    WK3 Sunshine Coast (Noosa) Sevens
    WK4 Central Coast Sevens

    WK1 **Dubai Sevens** (World Series)
    WK2 **Cape Town Sevens** (World Series)
    WK3 Perth Sevens
    WK4 no matches - Christmas

    Wk1Melbourne Sevens
    WK2 **Coral Coast Sevens in Fiji**
    WK3 Adelaide Sevens
    WK4 Sydney Sevens

    WK1 **Sydney 7's** (World Series)

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  10. Ozee316 Ward Prentice (10)

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    The top few Australian teams in the first three rounds (eg one or two NRC plus Shute Shield and women's teams) could be supported to attend the Coral Coast Sevens.

    The top Fijian or other teams in Coral Coast should be invited over for the final two legs in Adelaide and Sydney.

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  11. Ozee316 Ward Prentice (10)

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    Local sevens series played half before Christmas could determine the 'top' local Provincial, women's and club teams that could travel to the premier regional Sevens tournaments below World Series level. If those tournaments were all held in January then this would create calendar space for each tournament to invite 'top' teams from the other countries.

    Port Elizabeth and Queenstown both lost hosting rights to their national sevens tournaments a year or so back. Apia could help Samoa Sevens get back on track.

    Boxing Day: Queenstown Sevens (NZ)
    WK1 Port Elizabeth (South Africa)
    WK2 Coral Coast Sevens (Fiji)
    WK3 Apia Sevens (Samoa)
    WK4 Central Coast Sevens (Australia)

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  12. Ozee316 Ward Prentice (10)

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    My second attempt at a schedule that has the following features:

    -Tournaments in all main Australian cities
    - keep existing tournaments
    - limited to six tournaments over 10 weeks due to breaks for Christmas, World Series and International tournaments.
    - the tournaments could start in the late morning but the SEMI-PRO games could always start at 2pm for daytime tournaments or 6pm for nighttime tournaments for optimal broadcasting.

    Week 1 Central Coast 7's (1) (weekend)
    Week 2 Noosa Sevens (2) (weekend)
    Week 3 Dubai Sevens (World Series)
    Week 4 Perth Sevens (3) (Wed/Thu)
    Cape Town Sevens (World Series)
    Week 5 Adelaide 7's (4) (weekend)
    Week 7 Queenstown Sevens (NZ)
    Week 8 Paramatta 7's (5) (Wed/Thu)
    Week 9 Coral Coast Sevens (Fiji)
    Week 10 Melbourne 7's (6) (weekend)
    Week 11 Wellington Sevens
    Week 12 Sydney Sevens (World Series)

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  13. WorkingClassRugger Steve Williams (59)

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    Potentially another option is taking the lead on establishing an Asia-Pacific 7s Series combinibg Oceania and the Asian Circuit. There's a number of events and locations that can help form the circuit. There's also the added fact that the off season in 7s is quite long. It would work for the womens squad as well as they only have 4-5 stops on their circuit this season.
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  14. Ozee316 Ward Prentice (10)

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    Excellent. One level above a domestic Sevens circuit a co-ordinated Southern Hemisphere Sevens circuit could develop below the World Series level.

    In the Southern Hemisphere this season would run from October to February to incorporate preseason warm up tournaments and the two World Series Legs in Africa and Oceania before the World series heads to America.

    Establishing this kind of calendar means development teams, club sides and Provincial sides can plan mini tours. This is exactly what happened this January in South America with the Chile/Argentina series.

    Proposed Southern Hemisphere Sevens Circuit

    SEP week 2 (KL) Malaysia/India
    SEP week 3 China/Seoul
    SEP week 4 Tokyo Sevens

    OCT week 1 Safari Sevens
    OCT week 2 Mandela 7's (Port Elizabeth)
    OCT week 3 Zimbabwe Sevens

    NOV week 2 Central Coast Sevens
    NOV week 3 Coral Coast Sevens
    JAN 2/3 NZ Queenstown Sevens

    JAN week 1 Chile
    JAN week 2 Argentina
    JAN week 3 Sao Paulo

    FEBRUARY: Weeks 2-3

    OCEANIA Samoa Sevens
    STH AMERICA Rio Sevens
    ASIA Sri Lanka Sevens
    OCEANIA Melbourne Sevens

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  15. Ozee316 Ward Prentice (10)

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    As per my audacious proposal above (which could be replicated from March to August by in the Northern Summer..

    Australia could host two major regional tournaments: one in November and one in February.

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  16. p.Tah John Thornett (49)

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  17. qwerty51 George Gregan (70)

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    The growth of the Nines is only good for Rugby 7s. Once they start appreciating the shorter games they'll move to 7s which is more attractive due to the Olympics and worldwide travel. 7s and Nines are much closer together than 15s and 13s.
  18. WorkingClassRugger Steve Williams (59)

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    He's overlooking on glaring factor the works for the BBL. That's its competitive window. People will be less inclined to go to games in the dead of winter when they have to get kids to school. Apart from that. Yeah, we really need to look at doing something soon.

    What happened to the proposed SR 10s tournament? Thinking about it. Could a preseason competion among the Aus/NZ SR teams be worthwhile looking?
  19. RugbyReg George Smith (75)

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    its still on the cards WCR. Perhaps next year apparently.

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