Discussion in 'Schoolboy Rugby' started by rod skellet, Aug 12, 2019.
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Do CAS have a proper 2nd XV comp?
Define proper. Overall the differences between the 1 and 2's across the schools are little. They play each other. Not quite getting the point.
As in a trophy?
On the CAS website it doesn’t have a page for 2nds trophy or the previous winners.
You may have to update the team as both Miles and Matt Chapman have left Waverley
Both Miles and Matt Chapman have left Waverley
Draw is out for 2020
13.6.20 C v W
K v T
B v A
20.6.20 T v C
A v K
W v B
25.7.20 K v C
T v B
A v W
1.8.20 C v B
A v T
K v W
8.8.20 C v A
W v T
B v K
Hey RF1, I would have to agree with you on scots and Barker in the first XV to be a tough game. Dont know too many Barker boys but Scots looking strong with Savala playing his second year in the first XV at five eighth with the rest of his back line being big including Sui Wong and connor Mccmullen in the mix. Aswell as there forwwards having Darcy clifton a tough, agressive flanker will also be playing his second year of first XV.
Well said Bolivia. Seeing you are a cranbrook fan whats your take on the predicted line up for their first XV side.
Just an updated prediction of the Waverley 1st XV as we get closer to trials.
1. Jim Waterhouse
2. Charlie Barber.
3. Ben Dunning/Davy Moale
4. Axel Runow
5. Fritz HT
6. Clem Haloholo/Asolelei Fretton/Davy Moale
7. Ethan King/Will Baker
8. Benjamain Asolelei Fretton/Ethan King
9. Klayton Thorn
10. Emmanuel Di Bartolo
11. Jordan Swann
12. Ronald Volkman/Benjamain Asolelei Fretton
13. Caspar Cairns/Christian Smirnotis/Aaron Dimovitch
14. Christian Smirnotis/Dane Towns/Aaron Dimovitch
15. Christian Smirnotis/Ronald Volkman/Dane Towns/Mitch Eyles
There will be plenty of depth for Waverley with a number of 16A's/2nd XV more than capable of doing a job for the side as they progress this season.
- I except Smirnotis to be there- just not sure where.
- Moale was rumoured to be playing prop, although it looks unlikely he will be there, expect to see him at #6
- Cairns will most likely lock down the #13 jersey as he is so solid defensively and possesses both a strong short and long passing game.
- Wing Positions will be hotly contested- I believe wing combinations will change frequently during the trails before becoming more concrete towards CAS
Overall: like last year this team has the potential to win it, however only time will tell. Provided they have a good run with injuries, and take lessons from the trials and apply them under pressure during CAS games, they can definitely go close to winning this comp. Their biggest tests will be Knox and Barker, however in Round 5 Trinity have the ability to cause an upset if the Waves aren't 100% on their game.
Predicted finish: 1st or 2nd
SSAL - Ben Dunning (no 3) related to the great Matt?
Son of Matt, Not as good of a boot as his old man though!
As a Barker supporter, appropriate expletive thought but not verbalised. Guess he will be a handful.
Interesting to hear this talk about Barker next year. With majority of the team last year in year 11 and returning, it is hard not to back a successful season again. However last year performances in the trail games were not as convincing as the CAS form the team had. This could be due to the injuries the team faced, for example the Joeys game last year Barker was missing its whole front row and had players who played 2nds during the season start in this game. One thing is for sure that the Barker team will be well drilled and tactically ready for these games, but the question remains if they will be physically up to it. The team is also set to go on a NZ tour similarly to the one in 2018 which proved a key component to that teams success.
Barkers forward pack will be strong with key returning players such as the young number 8. Slack-Smith. The difficulties in this game will be the match ups in the back line. This was Barkers strength last year with slick hands and the ability to score from anywhere. With key players not returning to this lineup such as the 10, 11 and 15 it will challenge the depth Barker has to keep up with the Scots boys, and May prove to be a weakness Scots and other teams look to exploit. Overall predicting a hard fought game in the early stages but Scots could prove to be too strong late when Barkers forwards tire and need the backline to stand up
Very interesting selections here SSA,
As you pointed out much will depend on the early games as to who wins the final CAS spots.
There are a number of other boys you haven't mentioned which is fair enough given the depth but I think some of these others will emerge.
Give us your view on a 2nd XV, as you would think this team should also be quite competitive.
Was lucky enough to be walking my dogs at Queens Park last week and bumped into the huge pack of Waverlians training. A couple of tall timbers missing from last year's squad but was good to see many familiar faces in action and looking ready for the looming season. Some vacant positions below but judging from the fit squad I saw these spots will easily be filled. Similar to SSA above my prediction-
1. Jim Waterhouse
2. Charlie Barber
3. Davvy Moale
4. Axel Runow
7. Will Baker
8. Ethan King
9. Klayton Thorn
10. Ronald Volkman
11. Jordan Swann
12. Asolelei Fretton
14. Eyeles /Aaron Dimovitch
15. Emmanuel Dibartolo
Given the depth available,I am guessing that the coaches will obviously use the GPS games as selection criteria for the CAS comp.
If so, the squad will also include, Reeve Smith (prop), Darcy Sullivan (hooker), Zac Carr Smith (wing), Christian Smirnotis (wing), Fritz HT (2nd row), Hugh Johnson (half back), Ben Dunning (prop), Peter Cassimatis (prop), Rohan Braham (flanker),Caspar Cairns (centre) and maybe a few others, all of whom may well start some of these games, so a rotation strategy.
Key to the final CAS starting line up, aside from injury, will be the individual performance of all players, and perhaps even more importantly the thinking behind where to best play certain players. eg in particular where to play Fretton,Volkman,
Di Bartolo, Moale. This could really change the line up from the predictions that have been posted.
In terms of a 2nd XV, apart from a couple of players returning from last year (Elder, Braham, Johnson etc.), it would be too difficult to pick with upto 35 boys more than capable of playing in that side. It will come down to the internal trials for most spots. What I will say, is the Waverley 3rd XV will be twice as strong as last year, and that's scary....
Strongly agree with you SSA, a friend of mines son is up there in the mix with the first and second XV and he has also mention about the depth that waverly have. Will be very interesting to see how the waverly 1st 2nds and 3rds go this year. Bring on 2020 rugby!!
It’s interesting that Waverley again appears to be talking up their chances after coming 4th last year and having basically the same team. Barker retains the majority of their 2019 premiership winning 1st XV team and their formidable 2nds and 16a’s that only lost due to some dubious refereeing calls and are barely talking the same level.
Expect a 3peat for the first time for many years in CAS this year- with daylight second.
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