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O'Connor suffers heart attack

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John Thornett (49)
The wonders of insomnia...

Just saw news from France that O'Connor suffered a heart attack on the team bus, was revived (!) by Gorgodze.

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Sully

Tim Horan (67)
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Muscle relaxants and beer doesn't seem like a good mix to me.

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Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Highly unusual for a fit young man of JOC (James O'Connor)'s age to suffer a heart attack. A congenital heart condition is one possible cause.

Hope things turn out well for him.

Unfortunately his life since he left school has been played out in the public eye, with all the stresses and strains that can bring on young men. You wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Don't you just love Google Translate?

James O'Connor, International back of the RCT (44 selections), suffered a heart attack on the bus during the trip qu'effectuaient the Var after their victory in Oyonnax (13-44) last Sunday. Immediately rescued by teammate Mamuka Gorgodze, Australian (25 years) was not breathing and that's his Georgian teammate who allegedly tried to revive him before help arrived. O'Connor was then taken to hospital to perform additional tests. He remained hospitalized three days before going out in the day yesterday, and is expected to be sidelined for several weeks.
The club, that we contacted, declined to speak. By late afternoon, he released a statement confirming the pure facts: "In the interest of the player's health and the precautionary principle, James O'Connor has passed a series of tests and medical examinations environment hospital who have also shown reassuring and satisfying. These examinations are continuing, but have no need to be performed in a hospital. the Toulon Rugby Club and its medical service want to take the time to realize all the necessary examinations before the player resumes the competition but following his rugby career is in no way called into question. "
This accident has strongly marked the Var group who first thought of a seizure before the Australian does not show any sign of breathing. Reportedly, O'Connor would have taken four tablets of a muscle relaxant (Tramadol) after the game before drinking one or more beers on the bus.

In plainer English
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11596596
TOULON, France (AP) " Toulon back James O'Connor was hospitalized following a match last weekend and is still undergoing precautionary health checks, the French club said without giving further details.
Three-time European champion Toulon posted a brief statement on its website Friday evening following reports the 25-year-old Australian had a heart problem on the team bus returning from a match against Oyonnax last Sunday.
French specialist rugby newspaper Midi Olympique reported that O'Connor, who has played 44 tests for Australia but was overlooked for last year's World Cup, was given emergency treatment by teammate and Georgia lock Mamuka Gorgodze on the bus before being hospitalized for three days.
Toulon only said that O'Connor would undergo "all the (medical) tests necessary" before being able to return, but that his career is not in danger.
Old, fat people are supposed to have heart attacks, not young fit people.
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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Tramadol is a pretty strong opioid painkiller, and combined with dehydration and alcohol could cause respiratory depression to a degree, which is probably more likely.
Heart attack is a poor, generic term that really doesn't tell us anything. It gets used to cover all sorts - infarcts, cardiac arrest, arrhythmias.
He'd be unlikely to suffer an ischaemic event (myocardial infarct from coronary artery disease) at his age and level of fitness. That said, in those with a strong genetic history of coronary artery disease, apparently fit and sometimes quite young men do sometimes have just that.
A cardiac arrest (i.e. heart stops beating properly or at all) may occur, and in the situation of the other things mentioned above including fatigue, dehydration, medication and alcohol could happen secondary to respiratory depression, or from an arrhythmia, which could happen in young fit blokes.

In any event, it sounds like he's OK, which is the main thing. Scary for him, and his team-mates to witness.
 

Jeeper

Jimmy Flynn (14)
he had a hypo, probably wasn't monitoring his food ingestion. How unlike the media to go and jump to conclusions!
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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Hypoglycaemia is very uncommon in non-diabetics. Many people use the term for a variety of symptoms, but in adults without diabetes or other serious medical conditions causing various metabolic imbalances, actually becoming hypoglycaemic is quite rare. He may have been fatigued and dehydrated, and suffered low blood pressure for a period with the added effects of Tramadol and alcohol, which could cause similar symptoms, but it's hard to see how an elite athlete would be "hypoglycaemic".
 

USARugger

John Thornett (49)
Malaise cardiaque is not French for heart attack..

It was some other kind of cardiac issue, but definitely not a "heart attack"
 

WorkingClassRugger

David Codey (61)
I disagree. In my experience, you don't have to be old nor fat to suffer a heart attack.


Yep. As a kid I remember the shock my parents felt when a family friend died of a heart attack in his early 30s. Triathlete among other sports. Actually died on a run.
 

Teh Other Dave

Alan Cameron (40)
Hmm. As Dr Path MBBS has already pointed out, 'heart attack' is a broad phrase never used by doctors. In truth we don't know what happened, and his problem may not have a cardiac origin.

Hypoglycaemia may indeed have been his problem, he could well have DM for all we know (including latent onset autoimmune diabetes - and this is his first presentation). So hard to tell from reports from the mainstream media that is notorious for their medical illiteracy, gaps in translating nuances (as Mr Rugger has astutely pointed out), a club trying to protect their player by being vague on medical details, and a player trying to get his head around what has happened (he may not even know yet).

I do feel bad for O'Connor. Yes he has made some dick moves, but not everyone can be John Eales. Whatever has happened would be pretty frightening, and the public speculation over what really happened would just amplify the anxiety to eleven on the Marshall scale.
 

Dismal Pillock

Simon Poidevin (60)
O'Connor suffered a heart attack on the team bus, was revived (!) by Gorgodze.

I wouldn't want to be "revived" by Gorgodze

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p.Tah

John Thornett (49)
If you're taking tramadol it's best not to drink as well.

Whatever the cause, I wish him a speedy recovery.
 
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