My argument is that the ADF is being asked to do more and more, with longer deployments and rapidly changing roles for the people there. Yet they are not worth level pegging with inflation. Yet at the same time I would as I said guarantee the Politicians are eyeing their next 10% pay rise awarded by their "independent" tribunal. Also don't forget that the Banks have started to announce the next round of multi million dollar wage rises for themselves. This is a "negative" financial environment. The fat cats at the top of the tree, who not 5 years ago had to have their organisations guaranteed by the tax payers who now do not get pay rises in line with inflation, have never taken a day off from the trough that continues to give.