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QLD Reds 2010

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by RugbyReg, May 17, 2009.

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  1. RugbyReg Michael Lynagh (62)

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    Ok putting aside the general culture currently in place at each organisation, if JOC wanted to play with a top flight backline then the Reds would go close to matching the Brums.

    Valentine v Genia is close. Most people would agree that Will probably would be in the Wallaby squad had he stayed fit.

    Gits v Barnes. No contest really as Gits is currently the best 10 in the world, but there's no denying Berrick's class.

    Tyrone Smith v Cooper. JOC could end up playing here for either team, but particularly the Brumbies. Cooper seems more highly rated (than Tyrone) at the moment.

    Stirlo v Digby. Basically the same argument as with Gits v BB.

    AAC & Fainifo v Hynes & ??? Again a test vet and an exciting rookie (be it Morahan, Davies or Connor) match up pretty well.

    The tight 5s aint too bad either. Moore a BIG difference.

    The bigger difference is the backrow though. We're nowhere near George and Rocky.
    RugbyReg, Jun 19, 2009
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  2. RugbyReg Michael Lynagh (62)

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    Ok the latest I have heard about the Rocky non-signing is that he basically demanded a player clean out. Specified which (including Byrnes and Van) ones he wanted out.

    Interesting and fits a comment he says in one of the previous articles about the QRU not agreeing with some of his views, or something to that effect.
    RugbyReg, Jun 21, 2009
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  3. disco Bob Davidson (42)

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    Well we're talking 2010 so the other winger maybe Digby Ioane or Will Chambers, so If it's Digby & Hynes then the Reds have that contest.
    disco, Jun 21, 2009
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  4. disco Bob Davidson (42)

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    Oh well good on the Reds for not buckling, what if Howrill gets injured again & now with no MMM we'd be screwed what was Rocky gonna do? Play 4,5 & 6.
    disco, Jun 21, 2009
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  5. Scotty Steve Williams (59)

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    Did Elsom think he was being recruited to be a player or to be the recruitment manager and coach?
    Scotty, Jun 21, 2009
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  6. TOCC Mark Ella (57)

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    hmm, well withouth been to rude, i dont forsee byrnes as a long term solution nor does van 'benjamin button' humprhies have many years left either
    TOCC, Jun 21, 2009
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  7. Ash Geoff Shaw (53)

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    About Whitaker's departure.

    Wonder what that (second bolded bit) was?

    Seems to have been a screw up somewhere about J'OC by the first bolded bit.
    Ash, Jun 22, 2009
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  8. Ash Geoff Shaw (53)

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    Seems Mooney wants lots of Jim Williams' time.

    Wonder if the players think the cleanout is a good or bad thing?

    I'm sure they surely would've wanted some board members to fall on their sword too.

    http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25662806-5002381,00.html

    Ash, Jun 22, 2009
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  9. TOCC Mark Ella (57)

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    considering the players had a big input into the review, i imagine they would support the cleanout..

    as long as it pays dividends
    TOCC, Jun 22, 2009
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  10. Lindommer Jim Lenehan (48)

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    When is the Queensland rugby community going to call the QRU executive to account? Or, preferably, tell them to bugger off.
    Lindommer, Jun 22, 2009
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  11. Aussie D Phil Hardcastle (33)

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    Bubba Ryan doesn't have a full-time coaching gig at the moment and the Reds could do with some mongrel up front which is what he would teach them.
    Aussie D, Jun 22, 2009
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  12. TOCC Mark Ella (57)

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    well, i guess if we look past all the media reports there is certainly light at the end of the tunnel, the Reds have so far managed to retain the majority of there squad, whilst still waiting on the confirmation of a few players(barnes, ioane and hardman). It will be the first time in many years that the Reds havent had significant turnover.

    Yeah McMenimen is a loss, but in a more realistic sense he was missing more often then not
    TOCC, Jun 22, 2009
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  13. cheezel Bill Watson (15)

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    cheezel, Jun 25, 2009
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  14. eddo Larry Dwyer (12)

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    wow.. that would be quite the scoop for a team with no recruitment officer anymore.

    can't help with any confirmation though.
    eddo, Jun 25, 2009
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  15. RugbyReg Michael Lynagh (62)

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    RugbyReg, Jun 25, 2009
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  16. Moses Simon Poidevin (60)

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    Moses, Jun 25, 2009
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  17. formeropenside Guest

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    There do appear to have been some recruiting fuck-ups in 2009 (Brown, Tomane, Elsom, Chapman, Rabbit). It seems hard to blame the heavies for this - at first glance it seems like brother-of-singer is the man responsible, and he's now gone. But for all we know, he was acting on instructions from the higher ups.

    Mooney is confusing me as a coach: he's chosen a high risk spin it wide strategy, and its not come off, as a rule. On the other hand, you get the feeling if things click, the Reds will be devastating. Its the clicking bit, which is largely in the players heads, which is the issue.

    Of more relevance to the point above, is the degree to which Mooney is making recruitment decisions. Fair enough he should have a say in the players he wants, since it is his neck on the line. But is he involved in the process? Is he a good judge of talent (ie, the Faingaas)? He has the squad he wants now, and he let go some players I would have kept, holding all else equal.

    Player power is a fine line to walk too - for all it led to 2004 success at the Brumbies, was it good for the Brumbies longer term - ie over the next few years?
    formeropenside, Jun 25, 2009
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  18. fatprop Andrew Slack (58)

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    On this weeks clubrugby podcast Tirinui talks about the style chosen by the Reds as an attempt to cover up weaknesses in the Reds cattle ( I assume their forwards)
    fatprop, Jun 25, 2009
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  19. formeropenside Guest

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    See, I actually think that the Reds have a pretty good pack, at least with ball in hand - Holmes, Horwill, MMM, Higgy, Houston, even Van the Man can run a bit. Maybe he means Bell was not up to teaching rucking and mauling - despite the Reds having both Braid and former Highlander Taylor in the pack, they would go missing at ruck time occasionally.

    Fuck.

    It just hit me. You have to have a surname starting with H to be assured a run on spot in the reds pack.

    Holmes
    Hardman
    Weeks
    Horwill
    Humphries
    Higginbotham
    Braid
    Houston

    No wonder Rocky wasn't interested.
    formeropenside, Jun 25, 2009
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  20. Scotty Steve Williams (59)

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    Maybe we should have tried to convince him that Elsom is spelt with a silent 'h'.
    Scotty, Jun 25, 2009
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