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Andrew Slack (58)
Sam Johnson is off to Glasgow on a 2 year deal, primarily as international cover.
EDIT: didn't see Regs comment
EDIT: didn't see Regs comment
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Jim Clark (26)
Someone was upset that he didn't re-sign. As I said: that person can blame Cordingly for it as he(allegedly) made the negotiations almost impossible, hence the reason David took up an offer elsewhere even though he wanted to repay the Reds and the Reds wanted to keep him. This is unfortunately a common trend in contract negotiations with the QRU at the moment. There are huge disconnects within the organisation.
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Desmond Connor (43)
I can't see Kane Douglas playing for the Wallabies in 2016 year, if this report in Planet Rugby is correct:
" Easterby added: "We have been in discussions with the Australian Rugby Union (ARU) and with Kane for a few weeks now and we have made our position very clear. Kane is contracted to Leinster Rugby for another two seasons and we look forward to welcoming him back when his commitments with the ARU come to an end."
I mean, he has to have either played 60 games as a Wallaby, or committed to the Super Rugby season for 2016, which cannot happen if what Easterby of Leinster club says is correct.
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So possible 2016 lineup:
1. James Slipper
2. Saia Fainga'a
3. Greg Holmes
4. Caderyn Neville/Kane Douglas*
5. Rob Simmons
6. Adam Korczyk
7. Liam Gill
8. Curtis Browning
9. Nick Frisby
10.
11. Chris Kuridrani
12. Samu Kerevi
13. Karmichael Hunt
14. Chris Feauai-Sautia
15. James O'Connor
16. Andrew Ready
17. Sam Talakai
18. Sef Fa'agase
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20. Michael Gunn/Lolo Fakosilea
21. James Tuttle
22. Duncan Paia'aua
23. JJ Taulagi
Head coach aside the other glaring weakness or question mark is 5/8; Sam Greene, Jake McIntyre and Duncan Paia'aua are the local options but are all young and inexperienced.
Depth at lock and in the back row are still an issue, whats the status of Marco Kotze?
1. James Slipper
2. Saia Fainga'a
3. Greg Holmes
4. Caderyn Neville/Kane Douglas*
5. Rob Simmons
6. Adam Korczyk
7. Liam Gill
8. Curtis Browning
9. Nick Frisby
10.
11. Chris Kuridrani
12. Samu Kerevi
13. Karmichael Hunt
14. Chris Feauai-Sautia
15. James O'Connor
16. Andrew Ready
17. Sam Talakai
18. Sef Fa'agase
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20. Michael Gunn/Lolo Fakosilea
21. James Tuttle
22. Duncan Paia'aua
23. JJ Taulagi
Head coach aside the other glaring weakness or question mark is 5/8; Sam Greene, Jake McIntyre and Duncan Paia'aua are the local options but are all young and inexperienced.
Depth at lock and in the back row are still an issue, whats the status of Marco Kotze?
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Mark Ella (57)
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Yes my mistake
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Dave Cowper (27)
Pettowa Paraka - Negotiating
Ed O'Donoghue - Negotitating
Sam Greene - Negotiating
Ed Quirk - Negotiating
Lachlan Turner - Negotiating
Tom Banks - Negotiating
Marco Kotze - France 2016
Jake Schatz - 2016 off contract
Lolo Fakosilea - 2016 off contract
Scott Gale - 2016 off contract
Jake McIntyre - Signed 2016, possibly 2017
Samu Kerevi - 2016 off contract
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Michael Lynagh (62)
My opinions:
Props:
Paraka should be kept if possible, he's still only about 21. I think he's a better scrummager than the injury prone Daley, too. Likely to replace Daley post 2016.
Locks:
- Ed O'D should be let go unless they are desperate.
- Kotze and Murday both lost? (Is that a rumour or true for Kotze? I thought he would've been kept.) If Kotze is gone, and Murday is gone, and Horwill is gone, and McDuling is gone, then what a cluster fuck at lock right now! No wonder they are desperate for Douglas. There's literally no-one after Simmons and Neville, so no doubt Ed O'D will need to run around another year despite being well past it. If one of them gets injured, then what? If they have to pay, say, 300k to get Douglas, I reckon it would've been better paid to keep Quade. Douglas is a good Super rugby player who has had one really stellar year (2014), but he's not worth that much.
Flankers:
- Can't see Quirk being kept, shame but it's pro football and he doesn't fit into the Reds team right now with Schatz, Browning, Lolo and maybe Thomson.
- What's happening with Beau? With Gunn signed, I guess he'll be let go. He'll be missed by Reds fans.
9:
Not sure Gale will be kept, he's been a bit disappointing. So the rumours of his departure aren't surprising. They might look to Tuttle as the backup, then.
10:
Greene should be dependent upon Cooper. I think Cooper is gone, but screw any other high profile signing, Cooper is the one guy left they desperately need. If Cooper is gone, then Greene will probably be the backup behind McIntyre. Pretty worrying at 10. I think we're in a bit of trouble at 10, actually.
Wingers:
Another position we're in trouble with. We are really lacking an attacking weapon in our back 3 outside of JOC (James O'Connor).
- Turner has been good for the Reds. He's a limited player, but he's solid. Like most of our outside backs, he's injury prone. Would be good to keep for another year.
- Banks would be good to see run around in the NRC.
I reckon JOC (James O'Connor) is gone too, sadly.
Props:
Paraka should be kept if possible, he's still only about 21. I think he's a better scrummager than the injury prone Daley, too. Likely to replace Daley post 2016.
Locks:
- Ed O'D should be let go unless they are desperate.
- Kotze and Murday both lost? (Is that a rumour or true for Kotze? I thought he would've been kept.) If Kotze is gone, and Murday is gone, and Horwill is gone, and McDuling is gone, then what a cluster fuck at lock right now! No wonder they are desperate for Douglas. There's literally no-one after Simmons and Neville, so no doubt Ed O'D will need to run around another year despite being well past it. If one of them gets injured, then what? If they have to pay, say, 300k to get Douglas, I reckon it would've been better paid to keep Quade. Douglas is a good Super rugby player who has had one really stellar year (2014), but he's not worth that much.
Flankers:
- Can't see Quirk being kept, shame but it's pro football and he doesn't fit into the Reds team right now with Schatz, Browning, Lolo and maybe Thomson.
- What's happening with Beau? With Gunn signed, I guess he'll be let go. He'll be missed by Reds fans.
9:
Not sure Gale will be kept, he's been a bit disappointing. So the rumours of his departure aren't surprising. They might look to Tuttle as the backup, then.
10:
Greene should be dependent upon Cooper. I think Cooper is gone, but screw any other high profile signing, Cooper is the one guy left they desperately need. If Cooper is gone, then Greene will probably be the backup behind McIntyre. Pretty worrying at 10. I think we're in a bit of trouble at 10, actually.
Wingers:
Another position we're in trouble with. We are really lacking an attacking weapon in our back 3 outside of JOC (James O'Connor).
- Turner has been good for the Reds. He's a limited player, but he's solid. Like most of our outside backs, he's injury prone. Would be good to keep for another year.
- Banks would be good to see run around in the NRC.
I reckon JOC (James O'Connor) is gone too, sadly.
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Ken Catchpole (46)
We don't have to be in trouble at 10. Jake and Duncan could both be quite serviceable if they really put the hard work in. And I mean unbelievably hard work.
Not every team has a cooper or cruden at 10.
A solid go to game plan and very hard work and this reds squad may just be competitive enough to deserve to be in the competition.
Do the players left in the squad have the resolve? Does the management have the capability of creating the environment that gets results?
Not every team has a cooper or cruden at 10.
A solid go to game plan and very hard work and this reds squad may just be competitive enough to deserve to be in the competition.
Do the players left in the squad have the resolve? Does the management have the capability of creating the environment that gets results?
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Dave Cowper (27)
Will most likely stay put, needs some serious S&C work.
Definitely a spot of bother for the Reds with majority of the second string reserves let go. They will be paying prime $ for the services of Douglas will need a second signing because there is no one in clubland
Beau will be leaving at the seasons end. It's believe Tui will renegotiate after the WC but is willing to return to QLD. Thompson will be on standby to the decision made by Cooper. Tala Gray is off contract at the Waratahs looked promising in the NRC maybe even Cottrell depending on his Commitments with the Force
Both Tuttle and Gale are on the books for next year will be fighting over the reserve position
If Quade leaves the Reds will be looking internationally for a replacement hendr the pending decision to keep Thompson. Greene and McIntyre will need more experience to become a solid second string 10. Will need to have strong NRC seasons.
Another position in some serious strife. O'Connor for the moment is staying however if not booked on a plane to England could be lost to the ARU. The Reds are lacking genuine pace on the fringes maybe someone like Kingston wouldn't be a bad addition. Otherwise no real word on replacements
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Greg Davis (50)
I guess the secret will be revealed at the Gala, but the rumor is I will not be coaching the Reds next season, I am too busy for work and the Reds know of about 20 million Australians that are better suited that RG.
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Greg Davis (50)
Given that the Reds own both QLD NRC teams I hope they will play the young fly halves in every game.
We need to see if these "kids" can perform as Men.
To me this is what NRC is about and since we have two teams then we can let the two main contenders play off against each other.
We need to see if these "kids" can perform as Men.
To me this is what NRC is about and since we have two teams then we can let the two main contenders play off against each other.
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Dave Cowper (27)
He will likely replace Tapuai as a replacement 12
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Trevor Allan (34)
Sure for the NRC
BC - Pickle, Tuttle/Smith?, McIntyre and Greene
QC (Quade Cooper) - Gale, ?, Duncan and Brandon?
BC - Pickle, Tuttle/Smith?, McIntyre and Greene
QC (Quade Cooper) - Gale, ?, Duncan and Brandon?
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Michael Lynagh (62)
I reckon they'll make Greene move to Country.
Gale was really, really poor last year in the NRC prior to getting injured. If he plays well though Country could have a young and interesting backline, with Gale, Greene (potentially), Duncan at 9, 10, 12, Tuilagi at 15. There's also CFS, who I thought would go to Country last year, Ant and Magnay, although currently I don't rate the young kid. He's got a lot of improving to do, but he is young.
City's backline looks nice again, though - Frisby, McIntyre, Kerevi (if not picked for the WC, I think it's likely he won't be), ? at 13 (was White last year, and I thought he went well), Kuridrani, Turner on the wings, and Hunt at 15. If CFS goes to City that'd be interesting, but that backline would lack a lot of finesse.
There's also Taps, although he may play for Spirit.
Gale was really, really poor last year in the NRC prior to getting injured. If he plays well though Country could have a young and interesting backline, with Gale, Greene (potentially), Duncan at 9, 10, 12, Tuilagi at 15. There's also CFS, who I thought would go to Country last year, Ant and Magnay, although currently I don't rate the young kid. He's got a lot of improving to do, but he is young.
City's backline looks nice again, though - Frisby, McIntyre, Kerevi (if not picked for the WC, I think it's likely he won't be), ? at 13 (was White last year, and I thought he went well), Kuridrani, Turner on the wings, and Hunt at 15. If CFS goes to City that'd be interesting, but that backline would lack a lot of finesse.
There's also Taps, although he may play for Spirit.
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Bobby Sands
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Duncan was excellent at the U20s.
He played 12, and is running and distribution game really came to the fore.
We really have little idea what he offers at 10 at this stage. Good or bad.
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