Reds 2018
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charlesalan
Sydney Middleton (9)
it goes to the culture of the organisation
Silverado
Dick Tooth (41)
Terrible news. I hope he's OK. I hope he doesn't get judged too harshly, that won't help his mental state. I've been in dark places and dealt with it badly. Luckily I never had to give a sample. If you've never been there, think before you post. He's been a great servant to the Reds and Wallabies. Let him heal in peace
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kiap
Steve Williams (59)
I'm sure Slipper will get through. The publicity is really the harshest measure. Cash is fleeting and a 2 months ban is almost nothing.
Yeah. Although Reds apologists might not like it, I reckon it's a culture that Thorn is cleaning out.
Yeah. Although Reds apologists might not like it, I reckon it's a culture that Thorn is cleaning out.
Beer Baron
Phil Hardcastle (33)
I'd be concerned if any player there since 2010 wasn't on drugs.
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Dismal Pillock
Simon Poidevin (60)
It must've been terrible for him, getting kidnapped and held at Gitmo then blindfolded and waterboarded cocaine as he screamed in protest, no, no, not the cocaine, anything but the damn cocaine.....
Silverado
Dick Tooth (41)
You've obviously never had to deal with the Black Dog DP
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SouthernX
Peter Johnson (47)
Illicit Drugs in professional sports is nothing new... I’ve always thought rugby union has been the benchmark of holding players accountable.
The other codes are a disgrace. Amazing how all that drug use down at the Titans/Suns was uncovered via a police probe (where’s the urine samples picking up the NRL/AFL players)
The other codes are a disgrace. Amazing how all that drug use down at the Titans/Suns was uncovered via a police probe (where’s the urine samples picking up the NRL/AFL players)
RedsHappy
Tony Shaw (54)
Yeah man. Slipper has this morning stated he's been dealing with depression for some time.
Anyone who thinks a notable % of our 200 best rugby players haven't suffered from bouts of severe anxiety, mild or deep depression or elements of bi-polar disorder needs to experience a bit more of what life has to offer when people stop hiding their emotional realities and can talk openly about them.
And cocaine is these days the drug of choice to take the pain away and make life artificially better for a few hours or days. It's power lies in its effectiveness in this.
Partly there's a cocaine epidemic in our cities as there's a pent-up uncured and poorly understood anxiety epidemic in our cities and in the contemporary careers and home lives of many people.
Sympathy and understanding is the sole path to helping someone who becomes hooked on drugs via the pathway of depression or anxiety. Patronising condemnation only drives the problem underground, for an individual, a known group, or for a tract of our society.
Silverado
Dick Tooth (41)
Beer Baron
Phil Hardcastle (33)
Unless they want to start an argument that dealing is worse than using... Which this thread could very well delve into
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dru
Tim Horan (67)
I don't think they should treat Hunt any differently. Hang in there Slipper.
USARugger
John Thornett (49)
Most folks with the access to the resources Slipper has deal with it at the psychiatrist's office - not in Fortitude Valley.
Depression is a monster but there's still no excuse for repeatedly falling a drug test for cocaine multiple times in the same season. He's a grown adult who knew full well in FEBRUARY that this was not an effective or logically sound way of dealing with the problems he was having and also knew full well what the consequences would be the FIRST time he was caught.
I hope he now gets the help he needs but this was a particularly stupid way to handle things especially in light of the issues with Karmichael this year.
From his statement he has been seeking treatment.
As a professional sportsman he probably can't really deal with the issue using anti-depressants and continue performing.
Linebreaker
Allen Oxlade (6)
And having to watch his mum get treatment for the big c wouldn't help.... but no excuse...
liquor box
Greg Davis (50)
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https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sp...er-positive-cocaine-test-20180524-p4zh71.html
So would the Reds have known or just RA?
For consistency he should be gone, or put back to club rugby and if the Reds knew about the first positive then he should have gone at that point in time.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sp...er-positive-cocaine-test-20180524-p4zh71.html
So would the Reds have known or just RA?
For consistency he should be gone, or put back to club rugby and if the Reds knew about the first positive then he should have gone at that point in time.
No. Only the integrity unit, the medical staff and the player are made aware of a first positive test for an illicit substance in an out of competition test.
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