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Reds 2020

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by RugbyReg, May 9, 2019.

  1. Roberts Rugby Jim Clark (26)

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    Tate Vs Scotty discussion.

    Tate is obviously our preferred halfback, but a few things that stood out, was the speed and accuracy of Scotty’s balls in comparison to when Tate come on. Scotty was a bit slower at the breakdown to start but as the game progressed I thought he positioned himself well and was quick at giving good ball. It was pleasing not to see meaningless box kicks. The game flowed better and we kept a higher percentage of possession all game. Thoughts?
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  2. Hardtackle Billy Sheehan (19)

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    I reckon McReight could successfully play hooker. He'd be in the same mould as Dane Coles but without being a complete knob. He's stocky enough and given his ball skills he could get the lineout work right. That way we can have Wright and McReight on the field together as well as a heavy six and eight.
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  3. TSR Peter Johnson (47)

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    McReight is a Super Rugby level player at flanker. When is the last time he played hooker?

    And why is it people always thank changing to hooker is easy?
  4. Sully John Eales (66)

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    Because of all the numpty's we played with who were hookers.
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  5. RugbyReg George Smith (75)

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    Any chance JOC could end up at 13 (if fit)? Probably doesn't quite fit the game plan we have going at the moment, but I think CFS plays his best footy at 14.

    But if we are after someone who runs the angles like Petaia and Hunter, the way Jim McKay wants his players to, then I guess CFS is the option.

    Just trying to make room for Hegarty somehow. If JOC is fit then it's hard not to pick him.
  6. Garry Owens Alan Cameron (40)

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    What’s wrong with :

    JOC / Stewart / CFS

    Speight / Campbell / Hegarty

    ?
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  7. TSR Peter Johnson (47)

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    Haha - please - you played for Euros. More than 1 of your team mates was a numpty.
  8. PhilClinton Billy Sheehan (19)

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    I think based on form and current balancing issues (goalkicking) that is the team I would most like to see on the field to start anyway.
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  9. Garry Owens Alan Cameron (40)

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    ^ Maloula / Lucas / Dags from the bench
  10. Sully John Eales (66)

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    More than one of them was a hooker!
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  11. Purce Jimmy Flynn (14)

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    From memory, and someone confirmed this from their memory, Jock hasn't kicked since school in the 2nds.(could be wrong but I dont ever recall him kicking for UQ)

    In saying this I also heard along the grapevine (by someone tapped in) that the new kicking coach is trying to change the kicking style of the Reds kickers this season. With these 2 statements it might explain why Jock is performing the best at training. Less time/experience kicking therefore less the coach has to correct or less resistance to the coaches requests? By all reports Jock is kicking well/the best at training but it hasn't been converted to games yet.

    Apparently there has been some push back from the more experienced kickers. Might explain the situation. I dont really know any more than that at this stage.
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  12. RugbyReg George Smith (75)

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    yeah I heard that about Aldred (kicking coach). He's changing techniques which, in the short term, can lead to failings under pressure but should come good. Theoretically. Hopefully him being back this week helps
  13. RedsHappy Tony Shaw (54)

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    FWIW, I was amazed to read via Jim Tucker in the CM that apparently Alred has been away overseas doing golf swing coaching for at least the last 4 weeks or so and, as you say RR, has only just returned to Ballymore.

    How such a non-attendance with Reds' kickers in a crucial part of 2020 season makes any sense...it doesn't compute.

    Some of us said that, sadly, Campbell's terrible kicking and seeming kicking technique would surely lose a close match or two for the 2020 Reds and so it proved v the Cru. That was a True Reds Tragedy as the rest of their game was the best the team has played against high quality opposition playing away for, I would argue, 4-5 years.

    If anything was to vindicate in a single 80 minute sequence the choice of Thorn as Reds HC, that game was it. Equally, he must take responsibility for such a high-risk choice as Campbell as lead place kicker; one could see from Campbell's first games as lead kicker, this choice was courting potential disaster in close games.
  14. Adam84 Chilla Wilson (44)

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    Alred is only part time, the training blocks are aligned to when they’re at Ballymore, he doesn’t travel with the team.
  15. Roberts Rugby Jim Clark (26)

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    Alred has also been in NZ for one on one kicking with Beauden Barrett. It will be interesting to see the level of improvement in Beauden’s kicking over the next 6 months.
  16. Jimmy_Crouch Trevor Allan (34)

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    Do any of the other super rugby teams have a kicking coach? I cant seem to think of any.
  17. Penguin Arch Winning (36)

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    Also from memory, but I seem to recall Jock kicking quite a bit for Uni & also in NRC. I thought he was quite a successful kicker in those roles. But I could be wrong.
  18. The Nomad Alex Ross (28)

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    James Dalgleish was first choice goal kicker for UQ for the past few years, if Jock did kick in QPR it wasn't often.
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  19. TSR Peter Johnson (47)

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    I don’t mind persevering when a much better outcome is on its way - but Campbell doesn’t strike them well at all. He doesn’t look to me like someone who just needs to tweak a few things.
  20. dru Andrew Slack (58)

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    Thorn: OK boys, who's going to shoot goal?
    [Pack walks away to the scrum machine, most of the backline takes a step backward.]
    Stewart: No thanks
    JOC: Nup
    Hegarty: Yeah sure.
    Thorn: Mate, you have to make the team.
    Jock: OK, has to be me.

    Punters: OK then Jock, You can fuck right off. Bench at best for you.

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