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Bob McCowan (2)
wow that is impressive....treadmill drives me nuts, any long duration stuff really hahah, i like doing wind sprints 100's and 50's, and 300m shuttles. Used to be useless at running but definitely seeing improvements.
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wow that is impressive....treadmill drives me nuts, any long duration stuff really hahah, i like doing wind sprints 100's and 50's, and 300m shuttles. Used to be useless at running but definitely seeing improvements.
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Nev Cottrell (35)
Not sure whether to put this here or the obituaries section:
Ed Whitlock has passed away at 86.
Whitlock was one of the world’s all-time great runners as he set dozens of masters world records during his lengthy and illustrious running career.
The Canadian running legend is notably the first, and only, person older than 70 to have broken 3:00 in the marathon. He ran 2:54:49 when he was 73.
Age-graded, many of Whitlock’s marathon performances would have ranked among the greatest performances of all time. His 3:56:33 men’s 85-89 record last fall in Toronto is the equivalent of 2:08:57, which would have placed him second overall against some of the fastest runners in the world. His 70-and-over world record converts to a 2:00:18. The world record currently stands at 2:02:57.
Whitlock was famously modest and understated about his accolades. When asked about being celebrated around the world, Whitlock said “I don’t believe I should be a hero.” When asked what advice he had for other runners, he mused “I’m not sure what I’m doing is good for me, let alone anyone else.”
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Ed Whitlock has passed away at 86.
Whitlock was one of the world’s all-time great runners as he set dozens of masters world records during his lengthy and illustrious running career.
The Canadian running legend is notably the first, and only, person older than 70 to have broken 3:00 in the marathon. He ran 2:54:49 when he was 73.
Age-graded, many of Whitlock’s marathon performances would have ranked among the greatest performances of all time. His 3:56:33 men’s 85-89 record last fall in Toronto is the equivalent of 2:08:57, which would have placed him second overall against some of the fastest runners in the world. His 70-and-over world record converts to a 2:00:18. The world record currently stands at 2:02:57.
Whitlock was famously modest and understated about his accolades. When asked about being celebrated around the world, Whitlock said “I don’t believe I should be a hero.” When asked what advice he had for other runners, he mused “I’m not sure what I’m doing is good for me, let alone anyone else.”
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To add some context to Whitlock's achievements, use this calculator to work out where your times rank, adjusted for your age.
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John Eales (66)
As I posted last year, I got into long distance running for a while (long distance for me being 15km+). After doing a few half marathons and contemplating a full one, I decided I was sick of running around for 1-2 hours every other day and wanted to get into sprinting/short runs. I just found I got so bored and the run would dominate my day.
So now my new arbitrary goal is to get my 5k under 20 minutes. Any pointers?
Tangawizi
Peter Fenwicke (45)
How far off are you to start with?
Pointers would be:
1. Find a flat Park Run & do it regularly so you're used to the distance
2. Drop a few kilos unless already lean as f.
3. Throw in some speed sessions into your training.
Stuff like 6-8 1km reps with a slow jog back where each rep you're trying to take 5 seconds out of the previous rep. So maybe first one is a 4:15 depending on where you at.
Or try 8-12 x 500ms with a jog back recovery where you just try belt them out in under 1:55.
4. Join a running club if you struggle to sort out that sort of session for yourself.
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Pointers would be:
1. Find a flat Park Run & do it regularly so you're used to the distance
2. Drop a few kilos unless already lean as f.
3. Throw in some speed sessions into your training.
Stuff like 6-8 1km reps with a slow jog back where each rep you're trying to take 5 seconds out of the previous rep. So maybe first one is a 4:15 depending on where you at.
Or try 8-12 x 500ms with a jog back recovery where you just try belt them out in under 1:55.
4. Join a running club if you struggle to sort out that sort of session for yourself.
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John Eales (66)
Haha yeah, main reason I run is for point number 2! At the moment I'm solely using treadmills because I incorporate my running into my work out. So probably means my actual times are quite a bit slower than what I do on the treadmill.
At the end of each workout I try and run 5km on the treadmill at any speed between 13-14kmph. So that's roughly 21.5 - 23 minutes per 5km? No idea how I'd fare on track.
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John Eales (66)
That's genuinely insane. I don't think I could keep up that pace for more than a km.
Is he running pretty much at his top speed for two hours?
Tangawizi
Peter Fenwicke (45)
Nah, running at most people's top speed for 2 hours. But about 2 mins outside his best 10km pace...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliud_Kipchoge
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Nev Cottrell (35)
Indulge me while I attempt to clarify Tangawizi's statement - Tangawizi means Kipchoge was running at an insane pace when judged by mere mortals' standards. By Kipchoge's standards, he was "cruising" along at what was bloody close to the planned time. He's probably wondering where he could have made up 25 seconds. I estimate he was covering, on average, about 5.8 m/s so he was probably about 150m off the pace. Obviously bad planning
exercise is a really shit way to lose weight, that is 95% down to what you stick in your mouth
I reckon it will be a long time.
The improvements in the world record have slowed down and there is still almost 3 minutes to make up to break the two hour barrier.
The Nike Breaking 2 run was pretty incredible and an interesting challenge but it's a fair way off race conditions.
I'd bet that they'll break the two hour barrier next time they try something like this though.
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John Eales (66)
Talking to a running mate about how cooked that time is.
He reckons there's probably 10-15 people in Australia who could run 5kms in 14:12.
Let alone maintain it for a marathon. That's what I was asking before, does he just have a ridiculous ability to sustain his top speed, or his top speed just so high that 14:12 isn't too arduous?
Edit:
great video about it. Watching his actual marathon he makes it look so effortless and not that quick.
This video really shows you how fast and tough it is.
https://www.wired.com/2017/05/youll-never-run-sub-2-hour-marathon-pros-might/
He reckons there's probably 10-15 people in Australia who could run 5kms in 14:12.
Let alone maintain it for a marathon. That's what I was asking before, does he just have a ridiculous ability to sustain his top speed, or his top speed just so high that 14:12 isn't too arduous?
Edit:
great video about it. Watching his actual marathon he makes it look so effortless and not that quick.
This video really shows you how fast and tough it is.
https://www.wired.com/2017/05/youll-never-run-sub-2-hour-marathon-pros-might/
In terms of your first point, at the 2016 Australian Athletics Championships, only 10 of the 22 runners in the Men's 5,000 metres final ran under 14.12.
Kipchoge has run a 12.46 5,000m so he can go a lot faster than 14.12. That is fourth all time in the 5,000. Up until the last few years that was his main event.
It is only the last few years that he has started running marathons.
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John Eales (66)
Apologies for my boast here, but I'm quite proud of myself. I set a 20 minute 5k goal in March and recently I beat it. It's taken me most of the year and almost a run every single day. I now do that 5km on the treadmill most mornings and went out last night to test myself on a proper track.
A bit under three years ago, I was a 115kg loose head, so I'm happy with this!
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Alan Cameron (40)
Great effort! Doing sub 4min km isn't easy, but set yourself a new target with this monentum.
Pfitzy
George Gregan (70)
Someone get a broom and dustpan so we can sweep the cobwebs outta this bastard. Chop, chop!
I've started exercising again - including running - after a recent wakeup call on the health side of things. Turned out one of my arteries has a partial blockage that is unusual for someone of my age (42) so the doc is medicating the shit out of it. Beta blockers, statins, aspirin. Yay.
Nothing life-threatening at this point, but I ended up there because of my exercise migraine aura, as well as increasing issues in the bedroom department. Nothing like a sting to the ego to make you re-evaluate, eh?
The migraines took me to the neurologist who found nothing and so I just decided to live with it - but once it started to affect my love life I suddenly go looking for more answers
On that topic I'd like to make a Public Service Announcement: if you or anyone you know is having erectile problems, don't just carry on popping the pills without first checking any underlying heart, cholesterol, or circulation issues. The doctors I've spoken to said there is a growing number of people who just keep taking Viagra/Cialis and don't address potential causes. Some of them die early, or have their lifestyle significantly compromised through cardiac episode.
Anyway, on with the exercise: one of the advantages of two of the medications I'm on would be insomnia. Some mornings I wake up at 5AM and can't get back to sleep. Apparently when I'm restless I wake the wife up, so best that I hit the road and make the most of it (running gear is always laid out in the spare room).
So far I've been taking it easy on some short jogs so far, and doing the odd bit of bodyweight into the bargain. I also updated my trust Trail Glove 3s to Trail Glove 4 - and they're bloody amazing.
Note the integrated tongue wrapping around from the instep, which is elasticised to the other side of the foot. The laces have a little elasticity in them and sometimes you can barely feel the shoes on your feet. So comfortable, and a 5mm sole so fairly close to minimal.
At the same time I've fixed the eating right up and the diet is running pretty lean while I shed the weight and look to get back under 95kg and into those jeans I bought when I was trim in 2013.
In the last two weeks:
- Dropped 3.2kg
- Took 3cm off my chest
- And 2cm off my waist (my hips aka fatarse, knows no limit in its obstinance)
- Found out that beta blockers may help with the aura I experience during exercise. No guarantees there but I'll keep an eye on it
I've started exercising again - including running - after a recent wakeup call on the health side of things. Turned out one of my arteries has a partial blockage that is unusual for someone of my age (42) so the doc is medicating the shit out of it. Beta blockers, statins, aspirin. Yay.
Nothing life-threatening at this point, but I ended up there because of my exercise migraine aura, as well as increasing issues in the bedroom department. Nothing like a sting to the ego to make you re-evaluate, eh?
The migraines took me to the neurologist who found nothing and so I just decided to live with it - but once it started to affect my love life I suddenly go looking for more answers
On that topic I'd like to make a Public Service Announcement: if you or anyone you know is having erectile problems, don't just carry on popping the pills without first checking any underlying heart, cholesterol, or circulation issues. The doctors I've spoken to said there is a growing number of people who just keep taking Viagra/Cialis and don't address potential causes. Some of them die early, or have their lifestyle significantly compromised through cardiac episode.
Anyway, on with the exercise: one of the advantages of two of the medications I'm on would be insomnia. Some mornings I wake up at 5AM and can't get back to sleep. Apparently when I'm restless I wake the wife up, so best that I hit the road and make the most of it (running gear is always laid out in the spare room).
So far I've been taking it easy on some short jogs so far, and doing the odd bit of bodyweight into the bargain. I also updated my trust Trail Glove 3s to Trail Glove 4 - and they're bloody amazing.
Note the integrated tongue wrapping around from the instep, which is elasticised to the other side of the foot. The laces have a little elasticity in them and sometimes you can barely feel the shoes on your feet. So comfortable, and a 5mm sole so fairly close to minimal.
At the same time I've fixed the eating right up and the diet is running pretty lean while I shed the weight and look to get back under 95kg and into those jeans I bought when I was trim in 2013.
In the last two weeks:
- Dropped 3.2kg
- Took 3cm off my chest
- And 2cm off my waist (my hips aka fatarse, knows no limit in its obstinance)
- Found out that beta blockers may help with the aura I experience during exercise. No guarantees there but I'll keep an eye on it
Pfitzy
George Gregan (70)
I should set some running goals:
1) Get back to three sessions per week
2) Minimum of 3km per session
3) Get back to 6:00 / km
Once I achieve that, I can look to extend distance to 5km and start getting that down to 25 minutes.
The weight loss is secondary to all this, really. It happens as a result of the eating habits and exercise.
The main goal is to prove via blood test that I no longer need the cholesterol meds and beta blockers. I've targeted mid-September for that.
1) Get back to three sessions per week
2) Minimum of 3km per session
3) Get back to 6:00 / km
Once I achieve that, I can look to extend distance to 5km and start getting that down to 25 minutes.
The weight loss is secondary to all this, really. It happens as a result of the eating habits and exercise.
The main goal is to prove via blood test that I no longer need the cholesterol meds and beta blockers. I've targeted mid-September for that.
yourmatesam
Desmond Connor (43)
Keep it up Pfitzy, I topped out at $104 two years ago and am now down to 0.90cents. Diet plays such a big part of this stuff for me, I am also a massive fan of beer and pizza. I try not to limit myself on this side, but make sure that I work for it.
Also, I've been stretching daily which is making a huge difference to my ability to keep running. I didn't realise how important daily stretching was until is started and then stopped, fark me it makes a difference.
Keep it up there mate!
yourmatesam
Desmond Connor (43)
No pun intended....
Pfitzy
George Gregan (70)
Yeah that sort of thing can wait. I'm experienced in the weight loss thing, having done 116kg down to 90kg over 2011-2013. I've been as high as 130kg (I assume - scales couldn't take it
).Diet is about 75-80% of it in my books. Can't out-train your diet.
I'm going to start pilates next week in order to raise my flexibility. That'll make me cry a bit
But hopefully will keep the injuries to a minimum and help me develop wicked core strength as I lean up.