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RWC 2019 DRAW - MAY 10 IN KYOTO

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by waiopehu oldboy, May 8, 2017.

  1. waiopehu oldboy Phil Kearns (64)

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    On Wednesday the teams that finished in the top three of their Pool at the 2015 tournament - Argentina, Australia, England, France, Georgia, Ireland, Italy, Japan, New Zealand, Scotland, South Africa, and Wales - will be placed in one of three "pots" according to their current world ranking.

    The four highest-ranked teams go into Pot 1, those ranked 5-8 into Pot 2, and those ranked 9-12 Pot 3. Pots 4 & 5 will comprise the yet-to-be-determined Regional qualifiers with each Pool comprising a team from each Pot.

    November International & Six Nations results have seen South Africa drop into Pot 2 and Argentina Pot 3, which increases the likelihood of at least one 2015-style "Pool of Death", especially as none of the Pacific nations, who traditionally trouble Northern Hemisphere opposition come RWC time, are seeded but all three are likely to qualify by one means or another.

    Pot 1
    New Zealand
    England
    Australia
    Ireland

    Pot 2
    Scotland
    France
    South Africa
    Wales

    Pot 3
    Argentina
    Japan
    Georgia
    Italy

    As noted above, the remaining eight positions will be determined by a series of regional and inter-regional qualifiers, and a four-team repechage. All 20 qualifiers will be known by November 2018.
  2. joeyjohnz Sydney Middleton (9)

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    Wow, I didn't realize that all three of Tonga, Samoa and Fiji had fallen out of the Top 12. With USA & Canada also in the mix this will hopefully shape as the most competitive ever.

    There's realistically 16-17 teams that could beat eachother on any given day. It certainly bodes well for WR.
  3. Twoilms Trevor Allan (34)

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    It's a shame that the main provider of half the worlds talented wingers isn't even in the top 12 anymore.
  4. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    Fiji is in the top 12 in the rankings. They just didn't finish 3rd in their pool at the 2015 RWC which is what this is based on.

    Italy is the only side here not currently in the top 12 in the rankings.
  5. Slim 293 David Wilson (68)

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    A pool with Wales and either Georgia or Japan would be ideal.....
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  6. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    It's because they were drawn with Australia, Wales and England at the 2015 RWC.

    They are currently ranked 10th.
  7. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    I'd go for Italy. They are legitimately the worst side there.
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  8. Slim 293 David Wilson (68)

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    As long as we can avoid Argentina...

    Wales would certainly be the pick of Pot 2 with our record against them, and they're a team I don't expect to see much improvement with in the near future.
  9. waiopehu oldboy Phil Kearns (64)

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    Fiji, Tonga & Samoa are currently ranked 10th, 13th & 14th, respectively, USA 17th & Canada, somewhat surprisingly, 22nd.

    http://www.worldrugby.org/rankings/mru

    Agree that there's plenty of potential for Japan v South Africa-like upsets at this Cup which shows that World Rugby's investment in Tiers 2 & below is paying dividends.
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  10. Slim 293 David Wilson (68)

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    That should hopefully mean we see all 3 spread across different pools as well....

    Argentina in Pool 3 creates the possibility of another big scalp in Pool 2.
  11. Inside Shoulder Nathan Sharpe (72)

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    Does that mean they'll help us when we drop to tier 2?
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  12. Strewthcobber John Hipwell (52)

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    I was a little surprised to see Argentina down in pot 3, but then had a look at their record.

    They've lost 70% of their test matches in the last 5 years. They play the big boys quite a bit these days but that's still a pretty disappointing record

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  13. Highlander35 Paul McLean (56)

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    Argentina's problem is more that they can't consistently beat the NH teams in either the June or November windows.

    Whereas you lot, the Kiwis and the Saffas win most of them, with the occasional slip up.

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  14. KOB1987 Geoff Shaw (53)

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    Well if they can't consistently beat the NH teams nor the SH ones then it's not surprising they are ranked where they are!
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  15. Slim 293 David Wilson (68)

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    Argentina in the RWC are a totally different beast though...
  16. Strewthcobber John Hipwell (52)

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    Are they though? Beat Ireland last time and Scotland the one before. Lost to the higher ranked teams for the other games. England, NZ, NZ, Aus, SA

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  17. Highlander35 Paul McLean (56)

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    And if Contempomi had been correctly called offside, they wouldn't even have beaten us.

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  18. Slim 293 David Wilson (68)

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    I probably should've elaborated...

    Argentina really seem to lift at the RWC and I'd tip them to beat most of the NH teams in a RWC match, with the exception of England....

    They still seem to struggle against their RC partners though, but it will be interesting to see how they go up against us and SA this year...

    Two top 4 finishes in the last 3 RWCs is a pretty good result.
  19. Forcefield Chilla Wilson (44)

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    What are you talking about??? We are in Pot 1.
  20. RoffsChoice Ken Catchpole (46)

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    I dream of Scotland and Italy, just so we don't have to face the Scots in a QF.

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