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barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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What are people's thoughts on this?

I have several issues with it (in terms of delivery, message etc) however the one thing I keep coming back to is the fact that this guy is an undeniably evil dude, and bringing him to justice will clearly make a lot of lives better. Plus any efforts to raise awareness of atrocities beyond our borders can only be viewed as positive. So I'm pro.

I am skeptical about the true effect that arresting this bloke will have on the situation in the region, surely they can't be so naive to think that catching one bloke will make all the bad stuff go away.

I also think the campaign involves a massive oversimplification of the region and it's problems.

But any effort to shed light on it, no matter how questionable, is a positive at the end of the day.

It's also a very interesting precedent in the use of online media in forcing government action on foreign soil. A dangerous precendent? I don't think so, but an interesting one nonetheless.

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Bruwheresmycar

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Unfortunately the video explains nothing for me. Why is this a pressing issue? Does the government want action taken in 2012? Where is Kony? What has he done recently? Have the people who made this video been to Uganda recently? Are we just going to make the situation worse? We don't even know what the situation is.

They did terrible things and should be held accountable. But that isn't what the video is implying, they seem to imply we must act immediately or else bad things will happen. But don't tell us what...
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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I think the video is implying we must act now or else Congress will withdraw its support for the mission.
 

matty_k

Peter Johnson (47)
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The biggest question about the campaign is about the charity itself.

http://m.smh.com.au/technology/tech...tml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

But this is a pretty good summary

http://wilwheaton.tumblr.com/post/18920717928/thedailywhat-on-kony-2012-i-honestly-wanted-to

Basically it can be summed up as this
Kony is an evil man but the Invisible Children charity is funding the Ugandan army which are doing similarly evil things. The charity itself won't publish how it is spending the money, which most NGO's do, and it appears most of it is being spent on the three main people, flying around the world and making that movie.
 

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
Making the movie is kind of a legitimate expence when you are trying to influence people (rather than feed people, let's say).
 

Bruwheresmycar

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Thanks for all links in advance. Blogs everywhere are clearing up all the misinformation.

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts...is_not_in_uganda_and_other_complicated_things

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It would be great to get rid of Kony. He and his forces have left a path of abductions and mass murder in their wake for over 20 years. But let's get two things straight: 1) Joseph Kony is not in Uganda and hasn't been for 6 years; 2) the LRA now numbers at most in the hundreds, and while it is still causing immense suffering, it is unclear how millions of well-meaning but misinformed people are going to help deal with the more complicated reality.

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barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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This is probably the best article I have read on this subject, on a blog from a guy in Uganda:

I am very familiar with Invisibile Children. I’ve been involved/interested in their work since their early days in 2004 when they were first barnstorming college campuses and community centers with a rough cut of a film which was shedding light on the largely underreported issue of the night commute and war in Northern Uganda. They were 3 naive college kids who fell into this position, and you could tell. But they are very talented designers and filmmakers and were finding a very energetic young audience, and a nice chunk of corporate money. Their intentions were pure enough, to publicize the night commute and activity of the LRA to try to bring it to an end. Their slogan was “end a war”. It presented a somewhat urgent issue. They were smart. And it wasn’t hard to appreciate what they were doing. They reminded me of the first time I went to Africa when I was 15. You can go back and read my first blog post about it here if you’d like. I would have reacted similarly if I had stumbled into the night commute children on that trip.

But Invisible Children soon became problematic. I stayed up to date with their work as they rolled out well planned publicity stunts to raise awareness over the next several years. But there was one big problem, their slogan was still the same… and the situation in Uganda was not. Joseph Kony and the LRA were flushed out of Northern Uganda in 2004-2006 when Uganda sent its defense force to do the job as a result of internal pressures and some international urging. Invisibile Children may have even played a part in that pressure. But by 2007, although numbers are always hazy, the frequency of child abductions had significantly declined and Northern Uganda was no longer under siege… but Invisibile Children didn’t tell anyone. I started to sense that they needed a certain narrative about Uganda to exist in order to keep their audience, or so they thought. I stopped supporting them after a phone conversation a few years later involving Uganda baseball when their tone was unchanged about ending the war in Northern Uganda while Joseph Kony was off to terrorizing kids in Congo.

I never dreamed that years later they would put out a video like this.

Now, of course, it is quite complicated. Their video or message is not evil, maybe not even bad. It is certainly well made. It briefly mentions Kony moving out of Uganda years ago, but still for some reasons continues to focus on Uganda. And it had the same footage of a night commute school jammed with kids that I saw them play on that college campus (cooper union) in 2004. But as everyone is noting, Joseph Kony is a bad man, and if he is even still alive (doubtful), he should be brought to justice. Fine. True.

So, what’s wrong with the video? Well, a lot. And I’m even going to ignore the shady financials of IC and the funneling of money to the Ugandan Military which of course deserves scrutiny. I’m also going to leave alone the fact that Invisible Children claimed responsibility for pressuring the US Government into sending 100 troops to Uganda a few months ago while leaving out the information about a large oil deposit being found in the area just prior. And I’ll even leave out the flimsy rationale that there was even a point to making the video in the first place. This is a line they use in the voiceover “He’s changed his tactics, and International support could be removed at any time.” Umm… what? Did anyone suggest that the 100 unarmed US troops would be removed from Uganda? And by “changed his tactics” did you mean “possibly die?” Invisible Children looks like they fictionalized some kind of danger so we have to call our congressmen to keep troops there, thus they needed to make this video urgently. It’s not like those 100 US troops or anyone in the Ugandan Army who is actually trying to hunt Joseph Kony didn’t know his name and needed him to be more famous. I don’t think they needed this viral video “wanted poster” for the local Congolese bartender to call the cops when he comes in wearing a Groucho Marx mask. But fine, I’ll let all of that slide for the purposes of this post. After all, Invisible Children claims to want to raise awareness, so maybe they were just 10 years too late with this one … and killing Kony is still a good thing. Their end goal is to kill/capture/find Kony. That is clear. But here is the problem.

I suspect that the large percentage of the 70 million or so people who have seen this video and liked it, shared it, or donated because of it were doing so because they wanted to accomplish a certain thing. They wanted to improve the lives and prospects of African children. That’s awesome. That is one of the great things that I have seen this week. If Invisible Children is telling them that killing Kony does that, well that’s true for a tiny percentage of African kids who live in northeast Congo. Or maybe not even for them since Kony may well be dead or powerless. But Kony has followers, it is the same faulty thought process that killing Osama Bin Laden would end terrorism. But yes, killing Kony (and Bin Laden) are good things.

But if people want to improve the lives and prospects of Sub-Saharan African children, they need to understand the things that are threatening them and holding them back. The constant physical dangers to Sub-Saharan Africans are diseases, small house fires, traffic accidents, drownings, etc… Joseph Kony or other madmen in the forrest is way way way way way down on that list if he is even on it. And the prospects in life for work and happiness for African children are also certainly limited. If you feel like looking at a lot of numbers, here are the top 50 leading causes of death in Uganda.

Coach George is a major character in our film. He suffered a tragedy in his life which largely inspired his dedication to baseball. It had nothing to do with the LRA or Kony. 11 of his teammates died in a traffic accident in 2004 on the way to a funeral after another teammate had fallen sick and died. If one looks at the causes of this accident or other similar dangers to Africans and in particular African kids, one can get overwhelmed. That truck full of George’s friends crashed because the roads were bad, the construction crew fixing the road didn’t know how to control traffic, the car was not equipped with proper safety, the drivers were not educated on safe driving, etc… This is just one example, but all of the factors seem to point to a systemic failure driven by a corrupt government and systems of corruption that slow and disrupt the trends of development as the communities begin to grow further away from their Colonial pasts. Academics lump this “stuff” into the conditions that make up a “failed state”. I am a big fan of the Failed State Index which Foreign Policy Magazine publishes every year. Check it out here. All of these problems seem daunting, complicated, and… big. Well, that is because they are. But, there are some answers if you want to do some work to nudge things in the direction of improvement.

KONY 2012 has gone viral in large part because it offers a call to action, and a quite easy one at that. All you have to do is share it and make this name famous? Well, that’s easy, and people can do that, and that’s great.

So, people may read this or other critiques of KONY 2012 and agree but get frustrated that it offers no answers or other courses of actions. But I’m here to tell you there are some answers. And they are not easy. And a five year old might even be able to understand some of them.

I’ve outlined a complex collection of obstacles and issues facing African kids which points to failed systems of family, school, government, and society which all add up to an unsafe condition with too few opportunities for happiness. If our goal, by doing something like sharing a facebook post, is to improve those things, then we have to think about ways to break the cycles of behavior that perpetuate those failing systems. It’s not easy to find ways to do that, or even imagine them. I’ve blogged about that being a ‘process’, and probably a lifelong process. But I have found an answer in supporting programs that reach kids and offer them something so that they grow up to be “better people” than their parents. I don’t even necesarily care if these are outside programs or homegrown, the baseball one happens to be a mixed bag, maybe that’s even better in some respects. And the programs can be as simple as improving schools in Africa to act as the youth changing structures, or building healthy community centers to promote the youth, or encouraging strong marriages free from spousal or child abuse, or of course, rooting for a bunch of kids who love baseball and want to be great at it.

Many people have criticized the ‘White Messiah Complex’ as being problematic and very prevalent in KONY 2012. This is true. No country has ever, or will ever, develop because of foreign aid. And worse yet, foreign aid seems to promote corruption in local governments. When outside aid begins to replace social services and roles which local governments should be providing, it is no surprise that those governments become self serving and corrupt while depending on the white guilt driven, often times religiously motivated, aid to flow in and fill in the gaps that they leave wide open.

I will say this, this is a very difficult problem. We can be as smart and as academic as we wish to be here on tumblr, but it is difficult when a starving child walks up to your window asking for coins when you are in the back of a taxi in Kampala. It is an incredibly difficult and complicated world. It takes some work. But I have been encouraged by the conversations I’ve been having over the last few days on this topic. Invisible Children keeps saying that they are trying to make simple videos so they go viral. If that sounds insulting to your intelligence, it’s because it is. But it may be more than insulting, as many Ugandans have noted, it is irresponsible and most likely damaging.

And here is the main thing that concerns me about Invisibile Children’s video. I don’t think they are dumb or naive to all of these issues. If we give them the benefit of the doubt in that regard, then they are just oddly obsessed with killing a guy who very well may already be dead because they have a personal vendetta against him for doing such terrible things 10 years ago… if they dont get that benefit, then they sure look like they enjoy the money and fame they get by perpetuating a narrative about Uganda which they know is not accurate, nor indicative of the experience of the overwhelming majority of Ugandans and Africans, or even worse, damages the psychological rehabilitation process of Ugandans as evidenced by the Ugandans’ angry reaction at the creation of the video.

Though, there is something I love about their video which I often talk about. The first 5 minutes very effectively describes this new “facebook world” we live in, in which we are connected in a way like never before. This is a good thing mostly, but it’s also a dangerous thing which the other 25 minutes of the video unfortunately illustrates perfectly. We are inundated with bits of information all day on our twitter feeds, and our facebook feeds, and our favorite blogs, and maybe even on the still relevant television set. But they are just that, bits of information. They are not full stories or researched subjects. And believe me filmmakers of Invisible Children, I understand the need to simplify and condense information to make it accessible and watchable. We’re in the same business as you. I shot a film over 3 years and have a 95 minute edit. But I take that job seriously. And when an audience sits down to watch my work, they trust that I have condensed the information and packaged it in a way that is responsible and allows them leave with an effective course of action. With KONY 2012, I believe you failed your responsibility as filmmakers to do this. People are sharing and liking that video and even sending you a lot of money because they think they are improving the lives of children in Africa… You guys are not unintelligent, and you know they really aren’t… and you are also smart enough to know they might be hindering Africa.

But this ‘facebook world’ we live in is another kind of opportunity. It is an opportunity to be more honest, to not hide behind convienent narratives of complicated places. I think Invisibile Children is finding that out themselves as Ugandans react and news agencies rush to vet their information.

When Uganda baseball made front page news during their visa situation, a full 2 page article appeared in the New York Times. It featured a young player named Abooki who lived in Nsambya Ghetto. The article was pretty great and very positive about what baseball is doing for these kids. Here is that article. But it had one funny line. This one: “He has one set of clothes: jeans shorts, a blue T-shirt and a black baseball cap that he never parts with.” This is not true. It came from a writer’s brain. Abooki laughed and asked me why it was there. I tried to explain some of this to him. I tried to convey some of the reasons that it is somehow easier for Americans to paint a certain picture of poverty in Africa to legitimize their historical guilt. Abooki is 11 so he sort of got it. But I thought the line was entirely unnecesary. Abooki has several t-shirts, even a really cool star wars pajama set. He may not have an iPad or tuxedo but what is wrong with the truth?

It’s a common reaction to walk through a ghetto for the first time and say “They are poor, but they are happy.” This is true… sometimes. Sometimes they are “poor and angry”, “poor and frustrated”, “poor and selfish”, “poor and selfless”, “poor and smart”, “poor and dumb”, “poor and ……” How you fill in that blank is up to you, and it depends on who you happen to meet. But would you “like” or “understand” that person any less if they were poor and something other than happy? The beginning of KONY 2012 is right, and it’s amazing, it is time to connect and be honest. I wish they would have stopped there…

http://myquaintandquietlife.tumblr.com/post/19039946905/ivan-2012
 

light

Peter Fenwicke (45)
Kinda challenges the whole system in which a state is built if America is sending troops into capture Kony. Sure, what he has done are crimes and he is wanted by the ICC but there would have to be more pressing issues right now in the global community than just one bloke, this is one of many cases and taking down Kony will only result in the emergence of new leaders of the LRA and the same problems in the region will continue.

What the hell happened to state sovereignty?
 
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Cave Dweller

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Weren't it the maker of Kony who got arrested for masturbating in public recently?
 
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