Sydney Subbies 2019

I just saw that Burraneer are playing a trial against Atiu.

Are Atiu seeking re-entry to the comp?

Numbers looking seriously concerning for quite a few clubs now.noticed Brothers have completely dropped out of a trial game this weekend.

Irish can't put on a 3rd Grade.

Has the tipping point been reached?

Haven’t heard anything but a search of their Facebook makes me think it’s probably sevens

We did.. although we have played a few trials last few weeks with OK numbers.

I was shocked we pulled out altogether. however as I understand it, the decision to pull out had more to do with the div 1 3rd party opposition that was arranged for us. Decision was taken it'd be better for our lower grades in particular to avoid being seriously mamed.

but yeah, its obviously not looking pretty, there is no hiding from that.

Savers, Chatswood and Lane Cove having a 3 way trial at Kerlie Park from 2pm.

was talking to a co-worker who plays for irish and he says they may play thirds looking forward to this but i hope they do because they are truly a blessing to play against those gentlemen

Not long to the season start now!
Any news or results from trials on the weekend?

Hearing Hunters hill are looking very strong and Iggies are in for a big 100th year!

Can be a little firey but otherwise good craic.

Though I wasn't there due to illnes, the Renegades hosted a trial against Maccabi. The visitors running out 24-15 winners but good signs for us with another solid rollup.

For the first time, we had them back at our pub and by all reports they thoroughly enjoyed themselves. The Renegades don't skimp on hospitality.

Subbies have confirmed only 2 clubs will attempt 2 Grades this year - Convicts and Renegades.

There are now 13 clubs left for Divisions 5 & 6, and it looks like one of two options:

1) Big Division: 12-round comp playing each other once, then a split for finals = top 6, bottom 6, discard Team 13.

2) Small Division: North/South split, with 6 in one and 7 in the other. Play each other over 14 or 15 rounds and top 4 finals as usual.

Fuck.

Any chance of putting both into Div 4 with half the other clubs with 2 teams. Then 11 teams can play a big div together.

At least we can trust in Subbies to have a plan and show real leadership here.

10 club comp won't suit the season length of 14 rounds.

So we have;

South
1 Dukes
2 Maccabi
3 Burraneer
4 Cronulla
5 Engadine
6 Convicts

North
7 Manly
8 Renegades
9 Raptors
10 Chatswood
11 Lane Cove
12 Wakehurst
13 Dee Why

Unknowns
14 Dundas?
15 Collaroy?
16 Menai?
17 Kings

Dundas have always had a numbers issue (who hasn't?) but they trialed in the pacific unity cup.so who knows.
Collaroy I heard was on struggle street numbers wise again (and again, who really isn't in this area of Subbies.)
Menai juniors won't hold up their seniors anymore so I've heard.
Kings should be able to move out of Halligans by now?

Sound about right?

Honestly though I wouldn't mind seeing a "graded" comp if one of those "unknown" teams came up with players.

G1; Cronulla, Burraneer, Manly, Engadine, Maccabi, Lane Cove, (no idea who to add as #7 but since the Raptors seem to be mainly ex-Emus, I'll pick them.)
G2; Dukes, Convicts, Renegades, Chatswood, Dee Why, Wakehurst, *insert Dundas/Collaroy/Menai/Kings/Mosman 6ths/Colleagues 6ths*

Seems a lot better balanced going graded. Even if Mosman or Colleagues decide to throw their 6ths (6 senior grades, imagine that.) into the mix for the season.

On that note, considering Div 1 teams (and everyone in general) seems to be struggling to fill out their 5ths, why not join that comp with Div 5/6? Might be worth exploring? Food for thought.

Any word on how the Raptors are progressing? I believed they played a trial on the weekend against Merrylands and Mac Uni. Does anyone know the results? Any other trial results? Always interesting to hear how teams are coming along.

Apparently good numbers and would push for 2 Grades - if that was an option. Reports are, with Pete Niumata as head coach, they've picked up a few Emus which is not unexpected.

More like that. Yeah, seems weird that Raptors go into South, but one of us in "West Conference" had to, and the Renegades have had their fair share of travel the last few years.


14 Dundas Valley - gave advice they were out some weeks back. Turned up at Pacific Unity because Blacktown needed a 4th team, but they were heavily supported by Blacktown in all likelihood; I know this because they made the same offer to us.

15 Collaroy - goneburger. Maybe for good. We have one of their guys who lives out our way and was former Terrey Hills. Hopefully we survive his curse

16 Menai - pussyfooted around with Subbies too long. Wanted to start in Halligan and see how they go before joining Div 6. Think they ran out of money. Fuck knows they won't run out of trophies. Subbies had discussed with them the move to Division 4 with 2 Grades a couple of years back, given their success, and that probably scared them a little.

17 Kings OB - not committing past Halligan Cup so far. And why would they? Came 2nd last year, playing ?12? of the 14 rounds available and never had to line up a game more than 3 weeks out.

I was indeed joking about Subbies showing leadership. Seriously what do those guys actually do? Do they think their role is only to administer the competition, or maybe they should try to develop the game?

"No thought, just reaction" - Subbies

You're kidding right? Subbies have 1 full time staff member to administer 6 divisions. The clubs that have folded have done so on their own terms - it has nothing to do with Subbies administration.