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The impact of cricket cheating.

Discussion in 'Cricket' started by wamberal, Mar 25, 2018.

  1. liquor box Ken Catchpole (46)

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    the thing that I hate is that when they knew they were caught they tried to hide the evidence and then emptied their pockets for the umpires and pretended they were not aware of the tape.

    The rest of the issue does not overly bother me, I actually think you should be able to doctor the ball to give bowlers a chance but that is for another day.

    I am more offended by the direct lie to the umpires face, Bancroft came off no better than a thief or shop lifter hiding his stolenproperty.
  2. Kenny Powers Ted Thorn (20)

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    The only impact on Rugby is that Pat Howard should lose his job and will be unlikely to be able to return to Rugby in any capacity.

    You have the 'High Performance Director' whom the coach reports into and is appointed by Cricket Australia to manage the people, culture and strategy aspect responsible for the investigation? He forms part of those needing to being investigated. Have Cricket Australia learnt nothing from when they investigated Shane Warne and Mark Waugh over the 'John the bookmaker' scandal in secret?

    Can't imagine that there would be to many cricketers sad about Pat Howard moving on, as Ed Cowan referred to him as 'Teflon Pat' on the Bill and Boz sports show tonight.

  3. wamberal Simon Poidevin (60)

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    Anybody who watched the excruciating presser given by the former national captain, and who still thinks this is either trivial, or has nothing to do with any other sport, is either joking, or evading the obvious truth. This is a national shame.
  4. jimmydubs Dave Cowper (27)

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    I think the heavy CA hand was right for the game of cricket in the long run. Feel a bit for Smith as he’s partly paying for the actions of others but at the end of the day that’s what he gets the big bucks for. Leadership.

    If there can be any upside for Australian rugby it appears that there will be some more sponsorship $ available and looking for a home.
  5. Kenny Powers Ted Thorn (20)

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    I think it will be a big lesson to other sports in how not to handle a crisis. Rather than manage this CEO Sutherland and Chairman Peever have escalated the situation and carried on like a bunch of hysterical teenagers.

    They have lost their main sponsor in Magellan and devalued their broadcast rights this is after handing out serve punishments. So if they handed out double the bans to 24 months would that have saved the sponsorship and stopped the decline in the value of TV rights and had more of the public onside? I doubt it and at a corporate / business sense level they are no more intelligent that players who take sandpaper onto the field.

    Also why has Darren Lehmann had no sanctions even after the press conference he gave 3 weeks ago where he talked about ball tampering. Wouldn't it have been Pat Howards job to pull him into line on this 3 weeks ago, yes it's your job Pat Howard to set the culture, please don't give any more interviews or lectures on culture as you are a failure in this area. Sanctions against Lehmann mean people will move up the chain and ask questions about the next level which is Pat Howard. Looks like he is a protected species in cricket just as he was when he played rugby.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-Darren-Lehmann-knew-techniques-before.html
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  6. Brumby Runner Phil Kearns (64)

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    Lehmann will step down at the conclusion of the fourth test.

    I am still wondering how much the Aussie actions might have been influenced by the exoneration of Rabada. At the time Smith declared that it represented a new low bar for player behaviour. The scene might have been set there and then for some sort of action, which turned out to be ball tampering, to be taken almost in retaliation. It was unfortunate and totally wrong in my eyes for Rabada to be let off for lack of evidence that his action was deliberate. Smith was out and was walking from the pitch as any and every dismissed batsman does. Rabada didn't have to continue down the pitch and in most cases the successful bowler would simply stop where his run left him or would join his team-mates some distance off the pitch to celebrate. It seemed to me that he was at fault, and no action was taken at the top level of the game to sanction him.
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  7. Inside Shoulder Nathan Sharpe (72)

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    In one day the new captain has shown a better way to behave. He sounds like a true leader rather than merely the best cricketer of a generation.
    If half the stories are true we haven't had a proper adult as captain since tubby Taylor - and he was probably the last to actually have a real job
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  8. Slim 293 Jason Little (69)

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    9/11 x 1000...
  9. waiopehu oldboy John Eales (66)

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  10. The torpedo Chilla Wilson (44)

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    Report just got released.

    This in particular caught my interest:

  11. The torpedo Chilla Wilson (44)

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  12. Up the Guts John Thornett (49)

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    Originally posted this in the Pakistan thread but moved it across as this thread is more appropriate.

    The fallout from the CA culture review will be interesting:

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke.s-damn-cricket-australia-20181006-p5086t.html

    Some suggestions that Warner and Smith may have their bans shortened now the role of the administration in building the "win at all costs" mentality has been revealed. Can't help but feel they are now looking for an excuse to bring back Smith and Warner for the Indian series given we were pantsed by Pakistan, Kohli has been invincible in recent times, and our batting has been woeful. There's a lot riding on this summer for CA with the new broadcasting deal and the bad blood after the screw up in South Africa, if we are trounced by India television and crowd figures could well head south.

    On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if Smith and Warner draw even bigger crowds after this drama while the tension between India and Australia that has built in the last few series could create quite a spectacle--Kohli and co. would have a field day trying to get under Warner's skin (particularly if he persists with departing the ground every time he gets called a cheat). Bringing back Warner and Smith early might be the ace in the hole for CA.
  13. The torpedo Chilla Wilson (44)

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  14. Up the Guts John Thornett (49)

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  15. John S Watty Friend (18)

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    I think they will.
  16. Sully John Eales (66)

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    I hope they do.
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  17. The torpedo Chilla Wilson (44)

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    On the subject of the bans: should they be allowed to return to play domestic (i.e. Shield) cricket?
  18. Up the Guts John Thornett (49)

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    I think so.
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  19. waiopehu oldboy John Eales (66)

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    Read somewhere that Bancroft can return to Shield either this month or next, Smith & Walk-off earlyish next year so what would be the point in reducing the bans now? Unless of course someone can demonstrate that Peever or someone else instructed Walkoff etc to cheat.
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