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Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Are you suggesting the Starbucks expansion model?

Try to introduce a very ordinary product into a sophisticated (sports) market.

How long do you think the AFL and their clubs will be happy to subsidise NZL & SAF expansion clubs that will bleed money and demand talent?
 
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Watty Friend (18)
Hugh Jarse said:
Are you suggesting the Starbucks expansion model?

Try to introduce a very ordinary product into a sophisticated (sports) market.

How long do you think the AFL and their clubs will be happy to subsidise NZL & SAF expansion clubs that will bleed money and demand talent?
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whilst they think it is increasing the popularity of the game they will continue to expand no matter how poor the ROI
 
wamberal

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
Hugh Jarse said:
Are you suggesting the Starbucks expansion model?

Try to introduce a very ordinary product into a sophisticated (sports) market.

How long do you think the AFL and their clubs will be happy to subsidise NZL & SAF expansion clubs that will bleed money and demand talent?
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The AFL has got too much money. When an organisation has too much money they often make poor investment decisions.


Ideally, they would make so many poor decisions that they would lose their dominant market position. But I would not hold my breath waiting.
 
Gnostic

Gnostic

Mark Ella (57)
papabear said:
I dont know if u gents have ever played risk or settlers of katan.



But generally speaking, if u just sit back and respect the guy whose winning and take on the guy u think is an easier target. The guy who is winning will romp home and u will surely lose.



When it comes to the aus sporting arena.



You have

1 - AFL

2 - league

3/4 - union /soccer



The resources the afl have dwarfs league let alone rugby or soccer.. any gap in the market is going to be filled by afl more likely then league or soccer.



Rugby league is not unions biggest enemy. League is for the most part trying to just hold its own and grow in the small percentages in its already held market share.



Afl will stick 3 teams in nz and 4 in sa spend 25 m a yr on them if they think they can convert more to their religion. And thats there right they are the bigger and stronger business that should try and grow bigger and stronger.



Union in aus, to grow needs to focus on its own strengths moreso then its threats. But when its house is improving and it looks at threats. league is certainly not the threat the afl is.



Tbh i watch a fair bit of sport i enjoy all football codes but afl commentary is way way worse then leagues.



If you dont like the / appreciate the cultural differences between union and league commentary it more be the cultural thing as opposed to their insight that annoys you.



Ftr i think unions commentary is fine
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I'd still rate soccer a bigger threat to rugby overall in terms of dollars but internationally they have hurt themselves a lot with the corruption that has and is being unearthed. That is externally.

Over the past 12 to 18 months I have become convinced that the greatest threat to Rugby world wide, is itself. The marketability and growing profile of 7s and the continued arguments between the SH & NH and NH Clubs regarding a genuine global season and the pre-eminence of the international game.
 
Slim 293

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Highlander35 said:
Not fantastic.

Cometti is a class above. Basil is good also, but I find his voice annoying. A number of others are average to good.

BT is awful, for some reason he goes from a quality Radio commentator to a Moloney with half the intelligence and 10 times the enthusiasm.

Richo has the Gregans. Nothing that he says is wrong, it's just obvious and mono-tonal, which makes it boring.

Bruce is ordinary. Watson and Darcy let their bias come across far too often. Lethal was good for 3 or 4 years, but every year he gets worse as he's another year outside the game/

Commetti, Eddie, Sandy Roberts, Spud Frawley and Dunstall would be my dream team.
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Ling is probably the best of the ex-player commentators on 7...........
 
Jagman

Jagman

Trevor Allan (34)
Highlander35 said:
Deck Building games are the best.
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Dominion, Ticket to Ride, BattleStar Galactica and Pandemic all kick ass games :)
PS I never played board games until I lived in the board game Capitol of the world, Germany.


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Ash

Ash

Michael Lynagh (62)
It's a travesty Warren Ryan got bumped for Ray Hadley, who'd have to be one of the worst TV commentators in any sport that I've heard (not that it matters that Hadley's an idiot lacking even half a brain, Rabs Warren is one also but that never stopped him being a decent enough commentator up until age started to catch up to him).

Warren Ryan for me is still one of the better commentators kicking around in any sport in Aus.
 
p.Tah

p.Tah

John Thornett (49)
"I did it with Milner-Skudder, the All Black, I took him over to Canterbury and he had two seasons in the NYC and when I left Canterbury he went back to rugby union and became an All Black," Mulholland said.

"Kids in New Zealand can also see our development program as a pathway, not just into the NRL but also to go back and play club level rugby union.
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Seems a strange selling point, but there you go. NRL is a stepping stone to NZ club rugby?

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rug...i-rugby-union-young-guns-20170212-guaznj.html
 
wamberal

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
NRL is shorthand. You would have to ask the chap that was being interviewed about this. He is the one making the assertions.


Personally, I have not been enormously impressed by Milner-Skudder. But that's just my opinion.
 
waiopehu oldboy

waiopehu oldboy

Stirling Mortlock (74)
^^^^^^^^^ writes he as said player is in the process of bagging a hat trick :)

Personally, I think NM-S is potentially the best 15 we've had since Cullen. But that's just my opinion.
 
Inside Shoulder

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
waiopehu oldboy said:
^^^^^^^^^ writes he as said player is in the process of bagging a hat trick :)

Personally, I think NM-S is potentially the best 15 we've had since Cullen. But that's just my opinion.
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Yeah that is if Smith, Dagg, the bloke who replaced Smith today, Mckenzie or someone else doesn't turn out to be the best fullback since Cullen
 
amirite

amirite

Chilla Wilson (44)
Rugby league is an excellent skill development stepping stone. You take out set piece, minimise kicking, and the number of phases you defend for and what do you have left to work on?

Your tracking, tackling, passing mechanics, footwork into contact, and running lines (particularly those two over/under screen pass lines).

It'll never develop a good prop*, lock, and 9 or 10. It'll also misses a lot of nuances. But by god are they excellent at the basics.

As an aside, what you lose in space vertically from league, you make up for horizontally in union. Never let a leaguie tell you otherwise.

* With the exception of Nic Henderson. What a man.
 
waiopehu oldboy

waiopehu oldboy

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Inside Shoulder said:
Yeah that is if Smith, Dagg, the bloke who replaced Smith today, Mckenzie or someone else doesn't turn out to be the best fullback since Cullen
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Inside Shoulder said:
Or bogan Barrett's little brother
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Dagg was, Smith currently is (Jordie, I think, will be a great 10 or 12 who may play some 15 (or 23) just to get him on the park) but NM-S I believe has the potential to be a better specialist 15 than either of them, the only thing missing ATM is a long kicking game which was, of course, Cullen's alleged weakness.
 
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