The Physical Strength of Australian Players

Is body mass really an indicator for strength though? You're measuring yourself after a night of dehydrating yourself so I would imagine the losses is more water weight than anything?

I agree that alcohol has an effect on recovery which in turns affects ones ability to develop muscle etc I just don't think measuring body fat/mass after one night is a true indication.

To harp way back to a previous point, I doubt it's our lack of focus on weights that brings about our downfall.

Of the tier 1 nations the most focused on weight training would be England and the least would probably be France. One only needs to look at their results on average across the last 2 WC windows to see that it holds little relevance.

Mmm I think this guys knows something about it. They work at some place called Research Unit for Exercise Science and Sports Medicine where they spend most of their time trying to fabricate things and doing unjust to hundreds of sport men and woman daily.

They aren't even your words. You have just taken the first sentence for the sub headings, word for word, out of the paper you supplied. In doing so, you have taken the statements completely out the context in which they were written. Also, If you are going to rip someone elses work off and pass it as your own, I do believe that constitutes plagiarism. Please stop.

No - I'm measuring body composition, and it was a few days after the night before. I trained and got pinched on Tuesdays, then tained again Fridays. Measurement is Body Fat and Lean Body mass - Ie Muscle.

And for any individual, strength is directly related to muscle mass.

Kebabs can be quite a decent and nutritious meal

The session and pinching was on Tuesdays, the booze was usually consumed Saturdays, until I knocked it off completely in Sheer frustration at the gains I was losing and the progress I was reversing. At one pint I worked out that had I not had anything to drink in a particular 3 month period I would probably have dropped my body fat percentage from 19% to 14% and gained about 5 kg’s of lean muscle.

Yep - what they write makes sense. What you have written sounds like you've had the idea transferred to you via interpretive dance.

mate, I haven't be enable to see anything after one night on the turps


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This conversation of body fat percentage measurement, is missing the vital component which considers the amount of error in the process.

Think Anae benches about 180kg and Will Genia not far behind - strength is an interesting topic - JOC and Diggers (???) may not be the "strongest" blokes but they sure are on their feet

Will Genia is a freak and so was Luke Burgess. I find it amusing that even at professional rugby very few props dominate the 1RM competitions.

For example Ben Alexander is not overly impressive in the gym (from what I hear).

I find it comforting they're not focussing on something that won't help them scrum better.

Apparently Christian Cullen had the 2nd best bench press in the Canes behind Bull Allen back in the day..

Also there's a massive difference between a person who trains for a pointless exercise, and a person who plays Rugby.

Yes but the shorter guy wouldn't have a huge advantage on the bigger dude if the bigger dude has 20kg on him.

Reminds me of that Bulgarian weightlifter at the Olympics years ago - looked like a bantam rooster and only had arms about 12inches long - shit he could lift just above his head

You don't train for a pointless exercise - you train to build strength, which makes you more effective at Rugby. The inevitable consequence of more strength is bigger muscles.

Have you been getting assessed by someone reliable every week over, say a 6 month period during which other variables (like variations in diet) have been basically removed?