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Desmond Connor (43)
No Carter Gordon or Reesjan Pasitoa?? Could be that they get more out of the Reds and Brumbies training. And no Will Roach?
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Desmond Connor (43)
There are two Angus Bell. I would say front row Bell is training with the main Waratahs squad.
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Nick Farr-Jones (63)
During pre-season I imagine there’s more benefit to keeping them in their super rugby squads training full time
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I hope Tane Edmed (NSW) makes it, he’s a seriously good young 10.
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Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Interesting then that Tom Kibble is named but Will Roach isn’t
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Does anyone know what the policy is around super rugby players who are eligible to play u20’s being released for the tournament?
Personally I think any and all players who are eligible should be fronting up for the tournament, except for maybe petaia, although I would still like to see him play too
Personally I think any and all players who are eligible should be fronting up for the tournament, except for maybe petaia, although I would still like to see him play too
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Alex Ross (28)
Last year, there were a few players not named at this point who ended up going to the Junior World Cup.
Then again, Kibble has been playing Prem rugby for two years now and Roach only a couple of games off bench last year, so that may be a factor. Still a long way to go in selection process.
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And that’s the sort of attitude that has ensured mediocrity at U20 level over the years
It’s becoming increasingly clear how vital u20 level is for both club and wallaby level, the second we’ve started giving the pathway the respect it deserves our results have improved and all of a sudden our current crop of young players coming through look really really promising
Representing your country needs to be put above club commitments, even if it’s U20, level. The positive impacts are so far reaching
*instill pride in the wallaby jersey early on
*locks players into the wallabies pathway
*gets future wallabies forming combinations and playing together
*super rugby u20 players would usually ensure better overall results, meaning more fans, winning culture, good experiences to keep players in union etc etc etc
*gives super rugby players real leadership opportunities and sets the bar for non-contracted players
*If u20 super players are unavailable for selection in super rugby it means more squad players are used creating depth at the professional level
On the downside
*super rugby sides may lose 2-3 players for.......2 games maybe? Not 100% on the time commitment - I know not everyone feels the same but I’d gladly lose 3 or so players from the tahs team to ensure success at u20 level
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Trevor Allan (34)
^ except it's not a wallaby jersey. A senior state cap should 100% take precedence.
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Fuck the states, you’re representing your country
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Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Nah, Super Rugby and the JWC don’t clash in 2020..
Only thing these players will miss will be warm up tournaments, and so they should, Super Rugby should absolutely take precedence over trial matches and warm up tournaments.
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Well that’s great then
And agreed, give the non-super players a chance to show what they’ve got
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John Eales (66)
Alex Sa’aga, younger brother of Fereti & Rjay was named from the Rebels academy.
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Desmond Connor (43)
Agree. Unless you have a Wallabies cap (Petaia) then representing your country in U20’s should be mandatory.
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Mark Ella (57)
I think a lot of it has been a product of our lack of depth (and probably our lack of finances).
Our super squads just haven’t had the depth or consistency of results to release their young guns.
As our depth got worse, the problem has snowballed.
The good news is it seems our trajectory is now in the other direction. Although it’s even better news that the junior WC doesn’t clash and these young guys won’t have to miss out if their super teams won’t release them.
Our super squads just haven’t had the depth or consistency of results to release their young guns.
As our depth got worse, the problem has snowballed.
The good news is it seems our trajectory is now in the other direction. Although it’s even better news that the junior WC doesn’t clash and these young guys won’t have to miss out if their super teams won’t release them.
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I’m sure Kibble isn’t too happy if he has to leave pre-season and Roach stays. QLD have four promising 7s on the books - which does not compute medium term.
