Dwyer’s View: New Zealand way out in front

Bob Dwyer August 26, 2012 106

No GravatarThe Wallabies are the number two-ranked team in world rugby. This may well be so, but, on the evidence of last night’s match against New Zealand, they are so far behind the world champions that I would be surprised if they can even see them.

It’s not so much the results of these two Test matches that concern me, it’s our performances – or should I say lack of performances – that have left me, and I’m sure thousands of other Wallabies fans, feeling totally gutted and searching vainly for a solution. The simple truth is that there is very little, if indeed anything at all, about our game that is up to world class.

Our attack is nonexistent. I think that we made only one line break in the entire game – if you can call Berrick Barnes’s 53rd-minute dash for the line an actual break.

Why is this so, given that for a long period of time past, we were probably the masters of three-quarter play?

  • Genia takes an eternity to deliver the pass – lift, skip-step, wind-up. Compare his distribution with that of the novice, Aaron Smith, who at times merely lifts the ball with a flick of his wrists.
  • Barnes and Horne run across the pitch and set up the easy tackle for any accomplished defence. Even when we set the promising Sitaleki Timani a midfield crash role from the shortened lineout, Barnes ran across to give him the ball and immediately took away any potential advantage.
  • Now our forward pack, who this week at least showed some stomach for the contest at the tackle, are at a huge disadvantage. New Zealand subsequently demolished us in this vital facet of play.
  • Our support play has been dreadful for some years and remains so, even though I concede that our line of run and unnecessarily long passes make it difficult in the wide channels. Nevertheless, even in the close channels, we cannot remain accurate for more than a few phases. Our newfound pick-and-drive focus in the opening minutes lasted four phases – then a turnover – and then five phases – then a penalty. This is rubbish.
  • Following this changed approach – which, incidentally,  was canned after five minutes — our sole tactic to breach the defence became the chip or grubber. I thought that Phil Kearns was going to have apoplexy as he continued to question the wisdom of giving the ball back to the opposition – especially to Israel Dagg!

All successful activity on the rugby pitch is underpinned by accurate technique. Accurate technique in any given situation consists of a set of key principles. When a player can deliver on these key principles under the pressure of game situations, he can be described as possessing certain skills. Rugby practice sessions must instil these skills, over and over again, until they become an intrinsic part of a player’s performance. This certainly is not happening with our Wallabies!

If we look at the application of such skills – e.g. catch-and-pass, straight running, support lines and positioning, body position in contact, tackle contest options, etc. – and consider that a player in possession of the ball has only three options – ‘run’ or ‘pass’ or ‘kick’ – we can begin to understand why our players kick so much. The absence of a few of the fundamentals make the ‘run’ option nearly impossible – we’ve already given the upper hand to the defence; next comes the ‘pass’ option, but the added disadvantage of ‘no support’ makes this impossible. So they are left with the ‘kick’ option!

They could, of course, take the tackle, but the absence of all of the above would be certain to weigh heavily on the subconscious of the ball-carrier. ‘Take the tackle, with probably a turnover or a penalty, or try for the flukey grubber/chip and hope for the best.’ The choices are not great!

The solution, as always, is to insist on the accurate application of quality technique in a succession of practices, with increasing game-like pressure – always believing that ‘practice does not make perfect; only perfect practice makes perfect’. There is no quick fix for us in our present predicament; we must set the correct course and look to the long term. On the plus side, I have always found that accurate long-term solutions invariably provide some short-term benefit also.

Also on the plus side are the following:

  • As poor as we were, we held the world champs to only one try.
  • We also held them scoreless for 25 minutes in the first half and for the last 32 minutes of the game.
  • We are not short of ticker. For a few years now, and again yesterday, we defended against the odds for extended periods.
  • Sitaleki Timani and Michael Hooper have great futures.
  • Stephen Moore, Nathan Sharpe and Radike Samo continue to deliver. Am I wrong or does Samo deliver a heap more in 20 minutes than Scott Higginbotham does in 60, or even 80?
  • We played with 14 men for 10 minutes (and the yellow card was justified) — but Saint Richie can offend three times in the red zone with relative impunity.

We cannot continue to accept second best – or is it third best, or ….?

Discussion

  • Doctor D

    Nice article Bob, but cold comfort when we’re sitting on the bottom of the table.

    Thoughts on Deans? Everyone else has some.

  • Skyblue

    I thought the wbs didn’t play all that bad.we are just not good enough to match them simple as that.player for player they are a better team.we dont deserve to be no1.but we will find out in a few weeks if we deserve to be no2.what normaly happens is we win 2 more games and we think we are ready to take the abs again only to be put back in our place.dont know what the solution is.i dont think link could have done any better.outskilled,outmuscled it comes down to the individual players.i have just accepted they’re the best team in the world at the moment and thats that.dont be so hard on ourselves nobody can beat them rite now.

    • Bob

      I’m going out on a limb here and assuming your gen y, have a twitter account and tattoos.

    • Jay

      F*ck that – I’m a full blooded NZ born AB fan and I can’t accept that attitude.

      The very first test match I ever attended was the AB’s losing to the Wallabies at Athletic Park. I was at the match in 1990 where the Wallabies snapped NZ’s 24 match unbeaten streak (the Phil Kearns barbecue invitation match). I suffered through 5 years of last minute defeats to John Eales’ sides at the turn of the century.

      Don’t accept #2, it’s unacceptable. You b*stards have given us f’ing fits in the past and there’s no bloody good reason why you can’t do it again.

      • D.

        With your track record of going to watch Bledisloe games live, is there any chance you could go see another one? I was hoping you might be a good luck charm for the Wallabies.

        At this point in time, I’d take any advantage I could possibly get!!

        • Jay

          Ha, Nice try! The hoodoo was broken in 96 and since then I’ve seen 2 Bledisloe matches, 43-6 and 33-6 to the ABs!

      • Jimmy

        Jay – great post mate. Totally agree. The problem with these losers is that they think and act like losers and they don’t really seem to hurt when they do lose.

        I’ve never before seen an Aussie side and any supporters say “Well we aren’t as good therefore it’s ok if they beat us”

        Worst fucking attitude ever. Where the hell did it come from??

        • Queenslander

          good call Jay, accepting you are second best is defeatist. I know this has been done to death but I can’t accept this love in with the opposition after a loss. I saw the Carlton players in AFL after they lost a club match on the weekend and they were dead set gutted and looked like their dog had just been run over. Our guys were trying to get SBW autograph. I am hurting for a week and they should hurt a shit load more than that but it appears not and perceptions are everything. Good article Bob

    • The Other Dave

      Nickname says it all – it’s this same shithouse attitude that’s holding the ‘Tahs and Wallabies back.

    • boutbloodytime

      You’re definitely right Skyblue- player for player, they ARE a better team…but that could probably be said of a number of sides over the Wallabies in various positions at the moment…IMHO I don’t think it’s about man on man comparisons that are relevant in this case.

      The Wallaby successes in the past have revolved around good team execution, smart rugby, playing away from weaknesses & into strengths & getting the opposition to play to OUR strengths…that’s how the Wallabies have punched above their weight time & again & comes back to the mantra that a star team beats a team of stars…and that comes back to the ability of the coaching staff.

      On paper, the Brumbies had nothing this year….but get good systems & good coaching in place & in one year, they’re almost world beaters….same for when they first came on the scene under Macqueen, they were pretty much the rejects from NSW & QLD, yet how many Wallaby ‘legends’ came out of that side?

      This to me shows that the ‘cattle’ is definitely there, it just needs to be developed by effective coaching systems…

      The kick it away epidemic for me comes back to 2 things really…1. kick it away because the players haven’t trained to be able to withstand pressure & secure ball for sustained periods of time…2. to have a breather due to lack of fitness and composure, partly evidenced by the lack of support play running onto the ball for the pass or there to help secure the ball in the ruck.

      That all comes back to how the players are drilled at training…knowing what you’re trying to achieve at different times in the game & in different parts of the ground (ie in your own 22, in your own 40, in their 40 and in their 22) & the key default patterns that have been drilled time & again in these circumstances…so everyone knows their job instinctively.

      It’s one thing to say that the ABs are way ahead etc & we should be happy being 2nd etc a la Sledgey…BUT, that defeatist attitude denies what got the Kiwis to number 1 & why they are physically better…yes, part of it is genetics & natural ability, but my belief is that they train harder, in a more effective & disciplined manner & definitely SMARTER than we are, which develops the confidence etc that gives them the edge.

      A lot of that balls to the wall defence that held the ABs scoreless for sustained periods was reminiscent of RWC2011 v South Africa & just gutsy Aussie play,,,now we need to redevelop our lost art of intelligent decision making in attack that great Wallabies sides are famous for…and that’s not going to come from a Kiwi coach!

      Link with someone like Mark Ella/Larkham/Horan as a backs coach & some angry ex army sergeant as fitness/mongrel coach might just get us to number 1 in time for the next RWC.

      • Steve

        I couldn’t agree more mate, we stopped being “professional rugby players” a couple of years ago. We had a great opportunity when QC JO’C & KB came on the scene to indoctrinate them into “Wallaby Culture” but sadly let them continue to behave like spoilt golden turds!
        Send the whole team to an SAS style boot camp for a couple of weeks & surround them with the likes of Tony Shaw to get it into their heads that they’re playing for AUSTRALIA & not a bunch of 1st XV wankers…
        Maybe then we’ll start playing & making other teams worry about how to play against US?

  • DC

    I know for a fact in the long run the problem is going to be we just don’t have the players to change around, to be able to FIND guys that have aggression, because that he what he have been missing for nearly a decade.

    I know everyone says bring back a 3rd tier comp, but why not try and mould a few Australian teams into the NPC cup in New Zealand?

    Has this ever been brought up when discussing how to build and develop a young, hard faced and deep talent pool?

    We need more players playing against the best, and NZ is where that is, period.

    Deans should be reviewed after this, the EOYT would be a great start for a new coach to see what Australian Rugby has to offer…Could Jake White be in the mix?

    • Tyrone

      Australians have been playing in the ITM Cup for years now, last year was C Lealiifano, J Huxley (maybe the year before) and Dave Dennis. Those are just the ones of any reputation.
      Its a great comp but until we have a clear development path for our youngsters that doesn’t involve them moving overseas, we’ll continue to chose from private schools which just doesn’t make sense.
      New Zealand rugby doesn’t have the whole private school culture that we have, EVERYBODY plays, especially the public schools. Their best teams are all public schools in Christchurch Boys High, Hamilton Boys High, Kelston, etc etc. We need to cast the net a bit further than the private school scene.
      What is being done by the ARU to have rugby promoted in schools?

    • Joe

      The NPC is such a good comp. Free flowing, skillful unstructured, grass roots rugby. Very refreshing. I highly doubt you will get any Australian teams in it though.. Australia definitely needs it own national comp, even if its just within each state. Then top teams playoff.

  • sledgey

    There is something else to consider you know, the AB’s are just that bloody good. This is a tight team, a well balanced, physical, experienced and confident All Black team, the beginning of an “era team”. So, go easy on yourselves and stop thinking your team screwed up some how, they just played against a hell of a good team full stop!

  • Jay

    “St. Richie can offend three times in the red zone with relative impunity.”

    Here are the 3 penalties McCaw was pinged for:

    20:11 – Offside (entry into ruck) – in Wallabies 22.
    50:55 – Not releasing – midway between All Blacks 22 and 10m line.
    52:57 – Not rolling away – 10m from AB tryline.

    So that’s 1 in the ‘red zone’, not 3. No need to tell porkies, Bob.

    • Mickeyb

      And these were the only ones the ref pinged him for!

      How many infringing do you need before giving a red card?

    • Patrick

      That’s 3 without even a warning…. no other player in world rugby get’s that kind of leniency.

      I think Nigel Owen’s was probably staring at Richie’s arse most of the time….

      • S Paddy

        Ha ha. You boys need to have a sober look at the game. It borders on pathetic the way we look to the Mccaw/Ref thing to comfort ourselves. The glass half full would be to produce a player/s that can match his intensity, aggression, and leadership.But we can’t. We look for the smokescreen to satisfy our ineptitude. Watch a replay of the game and just watch him and nothing else. It is mindblowing what he gets through. Pocock is nowhere near his (consistent) class. The search continues. I suggest we find tight forwards who are men and give us parity in the physical aspects. Until that happens Richie will continue to run riot and your glasses will remain empty.

        • John

          Agreed…Mc Caw is an oustanding leader, look at his record as captain, remarkable. The Wb’s would have the likes of him in a heartbeat…he is the type of leader who leads always and all that have played alongside him follow his lead.

          His work rate is just outstanding and I reckon he was carring around 5 kilo’s of injury/support tape…he almost resembles that of a mummy these days. An oustanding leader and player.

      • Jay

        Nathan Sharp gave up 2 penalties and a free kick – no warning either. Sharp was also pinged 4 times last weekend and Pocock 3 times and neither of them were warned either.

        I think you’re reaching – there are plenty of times a player gets pinged 3 times without a warning. McCaw could have been warned after the 2nd penalty in a few minutes sure, but then he didn’t actually concede any more even without a warning, so it’s pretty academic isn’t it?

        • Dally M

          I recall someone was given the warning about the Sharp infringements. Owens said if it continued, someone would be having a rest.

        • Jay

          Genia was given a team warning for repeat infringements in their ‘red zone’ following Sharp’s 2nd penalty in the 47th minute. Sharp wasn’t warned for repeat infringements.

          Also, I made a mistake up thread. The penalty in the 50th minute was actually against Andrew Hore, McCaw’s 3rd penalty conceded was for not rolling away in the 56th minute and it was about 10m from the Australian tryline. So, Bob’s claim is even more inaccurate. Only 1 of the 3 penalties he conceded was even in the All Blacks’ half, let alone ‘red zone’.

        • Johnny-boy

          Actually McCaw is a great player but a crap captain. Along with Henry, without some sympathy referring from Joubert he nearly lost two world cups

        • Jay

          Rancid bait.

        • sledgey

          Are you so bitter as to suggest McCaw is a crap captain…….Amazing!
          He is the most capped All Black ever (103).
          • He has tasted victory 84 times in those 95 Tests for an amazing 88 percent success rate – the most by any other All Black.
          • He has captained the All Blacks to 51 victories in 58 Tests.
          • He has been IRB Player of the Year a record three times (2006, 2009, 2010)
          Pull your head in mate!

  • AF

    I disagree with your comment about Will Genia’s pass compared to Aaron Smith. Similar to Gregan, his passing technique implements an aura of unpredictability with opponents. It provides the opportunity for him to slice through the defense whenever there is a gap and provide ball to either the running forwards or the backs.

    • The Other Dave

      I see what you’re saying about the stunted step that’s meant to wrongfoot the defense, but sometimes quick heads and hands are called for.

    • Tyrone

      There is no aura with Genia, not with the ABs, not anymore. He has not been a factor in the 2 matches so far.
      They’ve figured him out – flood the breakdown and drive past the ball, this screws up his service, Ive never seen our own ruck ball being turned over as often as it was on Saturday.

    • Tim Fin

      Which he didn’t do once on Saturday.

      And you can’t keep implementing this so-called unpredictability if it hobbles your backline.

      Genia was terrible on Saturday. I’m glad Bob pointed it out as his first point.

    • http://BigFella Big Fella

      What seems like a small delay in Genia’s passing is magnified by the time it hits the outside backs.
      If Genia passes off the deck he’s crouching low and half the defence can’t see the pass being released.
      If Genia even stands up, let alone takes a step, everyone sees it and they all start to move up before he even passes it.

  • gaxman

    Doctor D, did you read the article? I think his thoughts about Deans are pretty clear considering all the things he said we aren’t doing. Who has this responsibility? The coach, so i can say with a decent slab of certainty that Bob thinks Deans is a chump.
    Great article Bob, love your work. Fully agree with all of your points.

    • Johnny-boy

      Bob obviously thinks deans is a chump. So does Alan Jones. So does John Connolly. So does Eddie Jones. Im pretty sure you could bet Rod Macqueen thinks hes a chump. Are they all wrong and JON is the only one who knows what good coaching is ? Just thought I’d bring it up for a laugh

      • Kigyptian

        Again Dean is not the only problem. Dean will not teach the players how to run or when to pass or kick. They are useless before he even gets his hands on them just see the Super XV standings. If you have rubbish form mentally and physically for most of the year how do you expect Dean to change all of that in 2 weeks?

        Don’t get me wrong Dean must go and sooner the better but don’t expect him to leave and even over a season things will change.

        • Johnny-boy

          Wrong kigyptian. Link will take over soon and the transformation in the wallabies and playing roster will be something pretty to watch and behold and suddenly all the soft cocks drooling over deans and nz rugby will look like fools and not before time. And all the flagellation about not having the cattle and the right rugby nursery will look like the great big lets protect our hero Robbie excuse wank that it is. It will be a sickening display of cowardice to watch the excuses re deans laying the ground work for link. It will be f……. hilarious from those who haven’t got the balls to admit they were wrong. And the biggest hypocrites will be the gutless wonders on the ARU board who are too scared to swallow their humble pie and It should be shoved down their throat so they choke on it. They have bastardized the current crop of Wallabies purely to protect their selfish egos. A disgrace the lot of them.

      • Johnny-boy

        And I should also mention Link obviously also thinks deans is a chump because he has refused to work with him. JON is prob the only leading figure in Australian rugby who thinks deans is great. Gee we are lucky to have JON …..

  • The Other Dave

    Good write up again, Bob. It was once again all there for us to see.

    Even though we only let one try through, 22 points is still a lot of points to concede, especially when we didn’t look like getting on the scoreboard.

    The ABs play with such automaticity and confidence that their team mates will arrive in support. We look like we spent the three weeks before TRC in the pub with a form guide. This is not a recent thing, either – Deans has been here for nearly five years now and had four to pull things together for the 2011 RWC; Knuckles had one year, yet the results of 2007 and 2011 were nearly identical, but for the saving grace of one D. Pocock.

    I can maybe understand that the Crusaders squad coached by Deans had a firm grasp of the basics mentioned by Mr Dwyer, and perhaps Australian players have a strong league influence – yet surely he could have adapted to this, rather than persisting with ‘play what’s in front of you’.

  • gaxman

    Jay, love your attitude, even though i’m an Aussie i’m sure we were born of the same cloth.

    I have been bitching all day about the Wallabies saying the same thing. We are not good enough to be number one so let’s focus on number two. They also basically said that they can’t beat the AB’s. WTF. Never, EVER say that. You say ”
    too good on the day” go away work harder than ever before and try your guts out next time.

  • http://www.dumptackle-rugbyblog.com PB

    Thought the Wallabies defence was the only aspect that held up. It could have been a lot worse.

    The attack was atrocious though. Where was Cooper’s running game?

    People may blame Deans, but Sean Fitzpatrick made a good point over here in the UK, whether or not Deans communication is not clear to the players, the players themselves are succinctly second best at the moment. Australia just don’t have the cattle.

    Dumptackle Rugby blog have named their team of the rugby championship for week two in the link below, if anyone is interested:

    http://www.dumptackle-rugbyblog.com/2012/08/team-of-rugby-championship-week-two.html

    • BloodRed

      Who would know if we have the cattle, Deans refuses to pick our best players and by that I mean those who are fit and in form? One of the ABs greatest strengths is that this is how they select. Lose form and you’re dropped but if your form picks up you can get back in. No favourites unless you are worlds best and even those guys eg McCaw and Carter play every game like it might be the last chance they get. We used to pick like that and we used to play like that. Now it’s favouritism over form and half he team know they have their jobs for life if they want it.

  • rossco

    How can professional Rugby players that get paid to play the game be lacking the basic skills and if they don’t have them, then how do they make it that far?

    It would be like finding out that Jamie Oliver hosts a cooking show but doesn’t know what a tomato is or that a mechanic can’t change a tyre, it just doesn’t seem possible.

    Either they have the skills but they don’t have the strategy or the system is deeply flawed and we have pretenders who have slipped through the net.

    I think Bob is oversimplifying the skills deficit and what he is really trying to say is “they aren’t coached properly”

    • Tyrone

      With everything, if you don’t use it, you lose it. Even with the basics I reckon.

  • Lets all face the facts

    Heads must roll at the ARU, not only Deans, JON too. Fresh faces, fresh attitude. Start from stratch, reintroduce the basic fundamentals, structure and a desire to win against all odds. Every time the Wallabies plays the All Blacks, they look like defeated men before the kickoff, and that’s the attitude to bring to the game, this has to stop or test rugby is dead in Australia, fans wont pay over inflated prices for rubbish like that. Enough of the bullshit buzzwords in post match pressers to try and elude the public into believing there are positives from taking another hiding from NZ, just be honest, we are shit and we need to do something about it real fast.

    Further to that, lose the politics behind Australian rugby and start picking the best, in form player in each position regardless of franchise.

    It’s time the ARU cut the crap, got it all out on the table, worked out their strategy for the next 5 years and made the necessary changes to implement that strategy.

    I suspect I’m not the only fan that has lost their faith in the Wallabies this year. How can fans believe in a team that doesn’t believe in themselves?

    • Patrick

      100% Agreed. Time to end the pain.

  • The Rant

    Nice article Bob.
    Probably wasn’t too hard to write as you could just use any of the last 20 articles with a few minor adjustments.

    Watching the game it really became clear to me that australia was playing like 2 squads – forwards and backs. At no time apart from a couple of timpani hit ups was there really any interplay with forwards and backs. Either the forwards were doing there thing or the backs were doing theirs. The all blacks play as one unit with the same script. Our guys look like they train separately and just meet up on the day.

    And while I agree we showed more ticker this week and the start was promising – our forwards need a rocket up them. They are so soft at the breakdown. There were black shirts allover the breakdowns getting in the way, making it hard to get quick ball. Good play ABs – but our guys should be smashing them for that until they learn that is not a good area to get caught. When Moore made a hit up and andrew hore got over the top – both alexander and sharpie tried to get him off the ball but so softly he didn’t even blink – contrast that with the countless times aussies got in position to steal the ball only to be blown out of the way by an allblack.

    Our field position was non-existing, mostly because we were always on the back foot. I can understand why the backs kept kicking it – when you know when getting tackled there is a 40/60 chance of keeping it.

  • The Rant

    And …

    what really PISSED me off was the press conference after.
    They just praised the allblacks, called them unbeatable and said they were happy with their play – there was just nothing they could have done.

    That Is defeatist BULLSHIT.

    I don’t even think deans yelled at them after the game. I think he just patted them on the head, said ”there there – your still a star – its not your fault”

    Quade even said there was none in the allblacks team that didn’t play the best game of their life. WHAT THE FUCK. Even if that was remotely true do you think that is just luck? All the stars aligned for NZ and it was meant to be??
    NO. And this defeatist attitude is unacceptable.

    To me – calling them unbeatable is an admission by deans that he cannot do this job. If he thinks they are unbeatable how the hell will he ever beat them???
    SACK THE USELESS SOD.

    And yes bob – based on the last 2 games, Samo needs to start and between him and timani at least one bok need to be stretchered off next week.

    • Patrick

      Great comment!

      Especially loved the bit about the hammered Bok!

    • Queenslander

      great Rant Rant, agree with all of it. Inthink half the problem is Deans is incoherent. The players must wait for him to leave the room and say to each other ‘wtf was he talking about’

      • @sackdeansnow

        @queenslander – that’s has some likelihood – to be fair

    • Dirty Socks

      The Rant it seems does not understand what professional rugby has done to the game. These guys get out there and do their best, which incidentally if you go back and look at old footage, is a bloody lot better than what use to happen when Bob was the coach. I am not saying the players and the coaches of our glorious past are no good, its just that the environment is so much more intense.

      When the test is done and the final whistle is blown, they talk with each other because they both know each other having played them so many times and respect each other. I find nothing wrong with that. It does not mean defeatism, nor does it mean they did not play their best or wont play their best against the ABs in the future.

      There was an interesting article in the Australian on Monday where the author had worked out a matching set of injuries and therefore exclusion from the AB that the Wallabies suffer from now. Sam Whitelock, McCaw, Read, Vito, Carter, Mealamu, Owen Franks and SBW. Imagine the ABs without them. It is sobering to see it in those terms.

      The problem with you Rant and many others on this net, is the first point of business on the agenda is to get rid of Deans regardless of what happens on the field.

      The first quarter plaus of that Test was one of the best I have seen. There was no quarter given. It was harder and faster than anything produced before. Unfortunately ruined by Genia’s brain fart. Yes they were crushed after half time, but they then came back and held the ABs who were then rampant. They need credit for that.

      After all we are still number 2 in the world. Get some perspective.

      • Skyblue

        what are joke dirty socks.you dont believe that crap do you? Besides oconnor and maybe palu the score mite have slighty diffrent.horwill woundnt of changed a thing because the whole foward pack was domonated

      • Skyblue

        what are joke dirty socks.you dont believe that crap do you? Besides oconnor and maybe palu the score mite have slighty diffrent.horwill woundn’t of changed a thing because the whole foward pack was dominated.

  • D.

    What I want to know is why did Clive Woodward and Graham Henry get a knighthood for a world cup winning team but you and Rod McQueen didn’t?

    Sir Bob Dwyer has a good ring to it.

  • murph

    Ok. Let’s give up then. It’s all too fucking hard. FFS

    • Johnny-boy

      yeah I don’t know why we even bother to turn up ……Ffs

  • Con

    We ONLY restricted them to one try because THEY bombed at least EIGHT tries……THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A CRICKET SCORE !!!

    P.S. We can only blame Deans for so much, in the end these are full time professional players being paid BIG money AND THEY ARE THE ONES IMPLODING ON THE FIELD…… the Crusaders never had this problem under him, so to me its a skill & mental toughness thing that they players are missing, a Coach can only do so much at practice and in the Box. Its time for these over paid, over marketed, pretty boys to “Open a can of hardened up” as they aren’t walking their talk.

    • Jay

      Other than Carter throwing the ball away before falling over the line, all the bombed tries were contributed to by great goal line D from the Wallabies. AAC’s tackle on Dagg and Timani stripping Romano(?) on the line being the highlights.

      • murph

        Quade got given a week for the exact same tackle AAC put on Dagg.

        Not saying there’s anything wrong with AAC’s hit but it’s food for thought…

        • Kigyptian

          They totally missed 5 tries. 2 in the 1st half and 3 in the second.

          1st Half Dag, don’t remember
          2nd Read,Richie and Carter

        • Jay

          Huh? I’m talking about the try saver at about the 10 minute mark – wasn’t remotely high, you must be thinking of something else.

    • John

      I agree, tho 8 tries? certainly I saw two as butched tries, Carter just had to keep running straight…he had 2 mtrs and would of scored but he passed and a botched pass at that. Jane had Dagg on the outside but took the line on with 2 mtrs out…stupid move. So from my count and trying to be fair, I reckon another 10 points minimum and maybe another 4 if converted, plus the missed penalty, a potential 17 points more.

      The Wb’s did start well enough but history dictates the Ab’s often start slow and slowly build intensity, and when required, they often seem to have another gear when needed.

      As for the Wb’s players, you cannot pass all of the poor performance onto Deans, that is just plain avoiding other very important issus…Where is the personal pride? where is the personal attitude? These fellows earn a shit load and in any other job you are sacked for non-performance (including the coach) I can remember times when the Ab’s were beaten, often only once, rarely twice in a row…they then returned to the ptich with fire and determination and reinstated their pride. With that said, I must concede that the Ab’s, (currently) player for player, are superior, tougher, more skillful and far more intelligent and have enormous heart and pride, apart from their recent display of cough-ups in finishing (handling errors), they have always been, are currently, and will continue to be, the supreme force in world rugby, this includes the era of the wallabie’s world champs, England and Sth Africa…the Ab’s, tho lost those tournements, still produced and continued to win test matches inbetween. They never give up and the stats do not lie, 75% of all test matches since 1903 favour the Ab’s. That is a remarkable achievment and light years ahead of any other national team of any sport over that period of time…119 years worth. All other top nations have and will have their day in the sun, but the Ab’s will remain “the team to beat” always has been that way from all nations. Anyone who disagrees, go look at the stats of all teams, decade by decade.

      Lastly, the day will come when the Wb’s will again produce a team that are the worlds best, but holding that mantle, as history shows, will be short lived.

      • Tyrone

        You forgot Keiren Reeds fumble while placing the ball down and McCaws fumble across the line

  • first time long time

    Watching the Argies SA game, we could be in trouble there as well. From the Argies.

    Their forwards run onto the ball at pace and support with the intent of continuity not just hoping to set up another ineffectual ruck.

    They attack defensive rucks and mauls with a gusto we struggle to comprehend let alone match and they play with real metered aggression.
    Anyone on the wrong side of their rucks or mauls gets thumped and they don’t look and whinge to the ref.

    The wallabies could do a lot worse than to watch and learn from them.

    • murph

      We will lose in SA and Argentina

  • http://www.facebook.com/RebuildTheWaratahs hannibal

    One thing we can improve is the fitness of the WB forwards. The ABs were at every breakdwon in twos, threes and fours while we regularly had tardy forwards flooding in all too late after 3 ABs had arrived. No chance by that stage.

    This will make a big difference. For once having no weak link in the pack. Tell those Tahs to do some damn sprints.

    • Patrick

      amen on the fitness, we really looked far slower around the park and far less energetic once we got to the ball – far too many people flopping into rucks instead of driving in.

    • mark conley

      Hooper did well first run-on but saw him walking a few times also, never saw richie walk (maybe he actually can’t)

    • Dirty Socks

      Interesting isn’t it that the hard core for fitness in the forwards, came from the Brumbies!

  • Kigyptian

    I don’t think changing Dean will change much about the end result. The problem is the current Crop is not good enough. But there are 3 players that you can build a team around and they are Pocock, Genia and Copper (excluded Digbi cuz he has only 2 seasons more left in him)

    Something funny the ABs have even beaten the Wallabies on Facebook followers count

    All Blacks 1,834,650 likes
    Qantas Wallabies 170,338 likes

    • horror-tahs

      It doesn’t surprise me that the All Blacks have so many more fans. I know a lot of people who know stuff all about rugby, never watch the games, but love the all blacks, because they “do the haka and stuff”

      Their brand is much stronger than ours and they are more marketable, not really a true indication of the level of following.

  • Robson

    Great article Bob, once again I enjoyed reading it.

    There were some aspects to the Wallabies game that could be developed into a very potent mix if they spent some quality time dissecting them and practising them until they are blue in the face.

    The first of these is the maul. They tried it twice and made some good metres and were looking ominously like they could even scrore from it. It wasn’t in the ABs repertoire at all. But the maul is definitely a fantastic weapon when it is used effectively. The WBs were far too loose in their application of it and the ball carrier needs to be tucked up right into the back of it, not just leaning on it and poking his head up every second to see where everyone is. The pill also needs to constantly change hands with the pack peeling instead of driving forward. It can also be set up from the base of the ruck especially when on hot attack on the opposition goal line. The beauty of the maul is two fold. It can create a try scoring opportunity just on its own, but it has the added advantage of dragging all the opposition forwards in to defend it. Then you have their backs frantically back pedalling to stay on side, and that’s when a quick despatch to someone like Cooper can find everyone in the opposition back line flat footed.

    The Wallabies need to hone this to a sharp edge and use it frequently as an attacking platforrm.

    The other thing which was used early on in the Auckland test was the “pick and go”. But they were all solo performances and as much as a few metres was gained they soon fizzled out.

    The “pick and go” needs to be a truck and trailer move with someone right on the shoulder of the ball carrier. The ball carrier should turn in the tackle (not flop on the turf and cause another ruck to ensue) and hand the ball on to his support player. The Argies did this superbly against the Boks and scored a try from it.

    The solo “pick and go” is a waste of time and energy.

    Yes it was frustrating watching the pill kicked away so much, but in a couple of cases there were no other options because support on the ball carrier was non existant. Deans referred to the lack of support on the ball carrier briefly in own of his glowing post match post mortems, but hells teeth who is responsible for getting that message across to the team. Nobody will support the ball carrier (or do anything else on the paddock) just because they are told to; irrespective of the style of English used. Training routines that emphasise support on the ball carrier should be part of the team’s training diet from dawn to dusk. It’s only then that the message really sinks in.

    Cooper has been criticized by every paper in the kiwi media since Sunday morning for not fronting the way everyone “expected him to front”. The poor fellah was playing to a game plan that does not utelise his strengths in running at the line. I’ve never seen him play so deep. So he was getting slow ball and lots of black jerseys swarming across the line at him. The fact that he didn’t try to go for a miracle break in those circumstances is a credit to him.

    He might just as well have been playing in a straight jacket.

    Other than that I thought the Wallabies defending stoutly and courageously and for me they are capable of much better deeds yet.

  • Jimbo81

    10 penalties to 3 and a yellow card was critical, as was 9 Fail-Tahs in the side.

    AAC is the only NSW player who deserves to be retained.

    Why is Moore still in the side? – can’t throw, tackle, get over the advantage line, scrum. Passenger.

    Horne has to go. Where was Dave Dennis? Didn;t see him all game – was he even on?

    Time to bring in AWH, Shipperley.

    • Jay

      The penalty count was 11 to 7, not 10 to 3.

      • S Paddy

        The dominant team should always win the penalty count. If the All Blacks were not dominant…..then I’m Harold Holt.

    • Jimmy

      So you would drop Timani for his best performance ever then??

      This has nothing to do with the Tahs – the problem is far bigger than just them.

    • bill

      Are you crazy, Moore is not at his best at the moment but a couple of years back he was arguably the best hooker in world rugby. Just not now.

  • Wes Force

    When a corporation fails, the C.E.O is replaced. No exception, Deans has to go.

  • Lee Enfield

    I am just confused by the Wallabies. For the last two years, we have played a game based on ball in hand, fast tempo, running rugby.
    It was, for the most part, attractive Rugby to watch, regardless of the result. Whilst we might not have beaten the All Blacks regularly, we still managed to rack up tries and points and it was this style of play, backed up with forward aggression, that saw us beat the All Blacks in HK and Brisbane.

    Then overnight, the Wallabies have decided to abandon that style and play what we are seeing now. Not only are we struggling to be competitive against the All Blacks, we are struggling to score tries against other countries.
    if we continue to play like this, I wouldn’t be surprised if we drop from 2nd in the world to 4th or 5th.

    I don’t know what is going in within the Wallabies, but I do know I want it bloody fixed ASAP. I hate losing, but if we do lose, it is easier to handle if we going down swinging.

    At the moment the Wallabies are shooting Blanks in a gun fight.

    • colvin

      Lee,

      I believe you’re onto something here.The WBs main problem when they were playing a traditional WB style game up to the WC was that their defense needed strengthening and Quade went missing on D. But they definitely had something to work on. So what happened?

      Well they’ve had an injury nightmare with key players. Does that mean something is wrong with the medical care the players receive?

      Secondly, the Super teams have not delivered. Too many players don’t look fit.

      Third, you’d have to say too many players got selected for the WBs on past reputation, not form.

      And forth, they changed their gameplan. Ouch!

      But in the last few years the WBs have pretty near always threatened the ABs even if they lost. The main exception to that has been the last three games.So much for the new gameplan.

      The press conference in Auckland was unfortunate. The WBs have become the ABs most feared rivals. There’s no way they should admit defeat like that. They should always go in believing in themselves. Believing that next time they will do it.

      One last point. A few of them need to smarten up. A haircut and a shave for some of them won’t go astray. They need pride in themselves, their appearance and their attitude.

      And I’m a one-eyed AB supporter wanting to see the WBs deliver. They’re my second team.

  • Mart

    I don’t know what all the fuss is about?

    We lost 1try to nill.

    It was a tight one!

    Jokes. We’re shit

  • Captain & Tennile

    Maybe put all players on a win/loss for payments…and get some left field selections – Steve Merrick was one from the 80′s – guys who would die and leave everything on the field. These guys are passionate – it is silly choices that is killing them – why do we kick to the best back 3 in world rugby – and everytime we do it we expext a different result?? Crazy anyone??
    Gill must repalce Higgers – he is all show and no go higgers and I am Reds supporter…
    Genia needs a break and maybe some time with the video – watch Aaron Smith and his passing on Saturday v Genia – different league….

  • Geoff

    Well my thoughts on the current wallaby team and not on the AB or previous long gone teams or other teams of whom I acknowledge. Unfit professional sports teams is unbelievable in this day of pro sport.doing the basics well is mandatory.putting the plan together is the coach and staff with some team involvement however executing the plan is the players responsibility also selecting and when the execution is not happening people get fired so who has been fired?not just after a loss but when a win is tight but shouldn’t have been. accountability and responsibility folks that’s all we ask of any. Well paid representatives.

  • Bu

    I can’t believe the white flag that was flown after the game on Saturday. It’s a cop-out and an attempt to deflect responsibility for the ineffectual performance of both the Wallabies and Deans.

    We’ve had a losing mentality for too long, which is why we got stitched up by Scotland twice, Ireland and Samoa.

    Can’t pass, can’t run, can’t kick sums it all up.

    It’s time to give Deans the boot and get a coach like Link or White, who’s a tactical planner and can inspire players to reach beyond themselves, instead of sprouting the “play what’s in front of you,” mantra.

    • Goldie

      At this level, the basics should be so firmly established, they just happen. The national coaches job is to suss out the opposition & work out a game plan that closes down their strengths & exploits their weaknesses. I don’t know if Deans is doing this well because the players aren’t executing the basics they should already have. If a national coach has to train players to execute basics, you’re behind the eight ball already.

  • Nick_Brisbane

    A telling stat that flashed up on the screen

    25 offloads to 2

    Why cant we learn to do this?

  • http://BigFella Big Fella

    Leg drive is a huge difference between the 2 teams.
    The Wallabies make the effort to get to the breakdown but then hit and remain static from the waist down, relying only on upper body strength to effect the contest.
    Conversely the All Blacks, whether in defence or attack, hit and then explode from the waist down with leg drive. They bend at the knees and drop their arses for power while we bend from the waist, resulting in our guys pushing downwards and not up and through.

  • Ray Hartley

    Thanks Bob for having the courage, as well as the knowledge and insight to comment on Will Genia’s passing game, or lack thereof. Seems all the commentators want to be his mate so they never criticise him. I remember when everyone and his dog was having a piece of George Gregan for his passing however Genia is much worse. Aren’t half backs supposed to pass well?

    Ray

  • John

    Did you all read this comment from Moore?

    post match…

    Hooker Stephen Moore said Deans still had the support of the dressingroom, but indicated problems lay elsewhere.

    Speculation senior Wallaby players are tiring of the work ethic and dedication of some younger teammates appeared to be addressed by Moore: “Like I said it’s a team game and we all take accountability for our actions. We are all old enough now to be able to do that, I think.”…

    Interesting comment,… it appears to many here, that the work ethic and dedication with some of the younger players is non deserving of wearing the green and gold jearsey.

    • boutbloodytime

      Well if that’s true, set up a few opposed training sessions with the precious princesses on one side & give them a flogging until they either harden up or f$%k off…a bit of a real world truth session will sort that shit out quick smart.

      There’s nothing wrong with a bit of friendly shoe treatment in rucks to get players back onside & working harder or running over the top of a few weak defenders to get their technique sorted out…bring a few hardasses & fringe dwellers into the train on squad to bring a bit more intensity into training….hell, bring in a few club hardmen/Wallaby wannabes that are past their prime, to show what it means to have a bit of mongrel…I’m sure there are a bunch of guys in clubland or have Super 15 contracts that are as pissed off (as us supporters) and want to get in there & stick it to the WBs who are slacking off…

      But again, if there are guys slacking in the squad, isn’t it at least partly down to the coaching staff to address this & sort it out? I think that’s called man/team management…

  • bill

    Unfortunately for your premise Bob, Higginbotham is one of the few Aussie forwards physically capable of mixing it and not taking a backward step.

    It would be pretty nice to have Hugh McMeniman back in the fold though, excepting Palu, maybe the last player we’ve had since Cockbain who makes the opposition wish they’d picked some other part of the defensive line to run at.

  • nufz

    dull, unimaginative, unskilled except for tackling. Weird when this is applied to the once brilliant wobblies.

    Maybe there are too many NSW players in the team and no one told them they are allowed to play when in Gold.

  • Anonymous

    My two cents (and one that no one seems to have brought up) is that there is no leadership ON the field. No guy or two seemingly in that role directing play and actions with a LONG proven record. Just a bunch of lost individual wallabies with noone pulling them together and leading them.

    Funny no one talks about how good Hansen is as a coach but everyone talks about how bad Deans is but also interestingly how great a leader Mcaw is. Though you can probably blame the coach for this. Pocock is a great player but-and I might be wrong here-he doesn’t seem to command the same amount of respect since he’s relatively new to the scene. It feels like everyone’s just making him out to be the next Richie Mcaw for the Wallabies and that he should instantly be regarded as such but richie has heaps of experience on him. And that there’s a certain line between him and the others and that’s partly due to age and experience-which is how it should be when you lead a group of people because there’s a certain trust needed. And how many of you would put that sort of trust needed on a field on one of your mates?

  • gerard flanagan

    Being an equal parts league and union man what about this for a proposition?

    Tinker with the engine and watch the Wallabies win. All it takes is for the ARU to sign Greg Inglis a la SBW and for him to move to full back. The Bowraville Express would turn Israel D into a Red Sea Pedestrian – there is no more devastating sight in sport (SBW included) and then have Jonathon Thurston at 5/8. Problem solved. Bernie MkII taking it to the line with GI running all knees and elbows at ABs. They’d be Brown Bread. The problem with Australian rugby is its a minnow sport that has always punched above its weight against sports with much deeper pockets like AFL,RL and Soccer. If we ever assembled the troops in the right manner we’d be unbeatable, but it ain’t gunna happen unfortunately. Oh well…………I can still dream.

  • Hooper for 12

    One other point worth making is that the ABs play calculated, high probability football.

    Low probability is running one-off at the defence, so are shitty mid-field kicks with no chasers, so are slow passes from the rucks, so are deep kickoffs with no chasers, so are reverse cross kicks in your opponents 22 where you only have 2 front rowers stationed and neither of them is aware of what the play is, etc.

    High probability is offloads from 12 where the defender is small and you have options either side, big kicks downtown against the run of play, crooked lineouts where the ref has shown he is not blowing these up, second row feeds where the ref is not blowing these up, closing defensive lineouts where the ref is not blowing this up, etc.

    Why we keep loosing to the ABs is because they are being clearly trained to identify and execute High Probability Rugby.

    • Blinky Bill – Bellingen

      Hooper for 12 – Well said mate.

      My take on much of the stuff that the Wallabies are apparantly allowed to attempt, is that it is such very low % even at Super level and more often than not, does not work. Yet here we are at a far higher level trying the same dumb arse ideas, with very predictable results.

  • John

    These names below are etched into the minds of all Kiwi rugby supporters (those that have been around long enough to remember)

    Stephen Larkham
    John Eales
    Stirling Mortlock
    George Gregan
    Phil Kearns
    Nick far-Jones
    Mark Ella
    David Campese

    All above with the exception of Campese (to a lesser degree), were and still are, highly respected from across the ditch due to their talented play, athletic abilities…but mostly due to their intellectual prowess as rugby players.

    This (imo) is what is missing in Australian Rugby presently, A balance of talent, athlelticisim and intelligence. All fore-mentioned names provided this balance and it is no coinincidence that these era’s of players produced the best wallabie performances in the last 2.5 decades

    This current pool (last 5 yrs) have seriously lacked this balance, altho Horwell (imo) showed promise until injured. Pocock is a force and well worthy of praise and will only improve as he matures and stays fit. Genia, once he has a forward moving pack and intelligent mid-feild will most definately improve. O’conner, once back, has the talent, consistency and the intelligence.

    While the debate with Deans is justified, the current players are not up to the task of “repeatedly” producing wins.

    The Kiwis have always looked at the Australians as our biggest match opponents with the Bok coming in second…deep down, we love playing you guys the most.

    As a Kiwi and an avid rugby supporter of 40 yrs, (and I am not alone in my thinking), wish for the day Australian rugby finds players that have the above mentioned balance of talent and again fronts up on the world stage as a potent and “team to beat” force.

    While we understand the issues facing the ARU with other codes, it will be a great day for world rugby when Australia figure’s out a way to attract such talent and again becomes a potent and dominant force.

    One thing I am sure about…positive direction will come from all of this, there is only one way from here and that is up….once the ARU sort their politics and direction.

    Hang in there all you rugby supporters…sincerely.

    John

    • mark conley

      Phil Kearns, doesn’t look quite right there, does he?

  • Nutta

    For me it’s the simple things done right:

    Put multiple men in motion to give the distributor a choice and the Defenders a puzzle. We don’t

    Supporting 2m wide and 5m deep – not 5m wide and 2m deep hoping for a miracle pass. We don’t

    Don’t just bang into a ruck – target someone specific. We don’t.

    Fking REALIGN so the Half CAN pass quick to something other then a shadow. We don’t.

    Anyone who chips and fails to regather buys a full bar round 3 times. Dunno…

    I had a fair drive back home after my game in town so I listened to the game on the radio. Thus I also listened to the Kiwi commentators. Two things occurred to me:
    * The Kiwis see their game as so supeior to ours (rightly) that they had to try hard to make the game sound like a contest in the 2nd half (you could hear them trying). That’s sad.
    * It’s the closest I have ever come to switching off / leaving early from a Wobblies test ever.

    I am having a moment of distinct apathy towards the Wobblies and i find it a bit surreal. I should be distraught – but I’m not…Fk me.

  • BloodRed

    Can’t disagree with a single word.

  • Piggy

    The first question at the post-match press conference should be, “what was our gameplan?”.

    I’ve struggled to determine how we are trying to get the ball across the line.

  • Blinky Bill – Bellingen

    The one positive I can think of for this low point in Wallaby history (and I predict even lower times ahead for us), is that IF we stick together as a group, learn, grow & really develop…..that we will come out of this stronger. That is turn could contribute (down the track) to a successful rebuilding of the Wallabies. Sorry but that’s the best I’ve got. :(

  • Gary

    Bob
    Surely you know somebody who could help Genia.
    Develop appropriate stomach muscles, wide base, stronger wrists. delivery technique.
    Then practice, practice and more practice.
    He may then become the best in the world.
    Being a professional he must realize his weaknesses in this area and want to improve.

  • Cantab abroad

    Haven’t seen the game but reading on other sites there are a lot of comments about thevisible lack of fitness in the wbs front row (or tahs forwards in general).

    Very difficult to ‘support the ball carrier’ or re-align with urgency iuf you are can’t breathe or are carrying a few extra kgs of flab.

    I suspect Deans has selected NSW forwards as they are technically set peice more capable than other Aus S15 teams and set pecice is a much greater results indicator at test level.

    That was close to the best backline the wbs could field I think but the pack is still struggling to compete and I think tahts a fitness issue as much as a talent issue. Just what are the S15 coaches doing with player conditioning??

  • Will he or won’t he….

    It’s quite hilarious seeing all the crying n bitching about Deans on here…. Wollies n Coles must be running out of tissues.

    Aust need to accept the fact that NZ will forever be better at rugby than this country will ever be…it’s their DNA. Just have a look at the history of the games played bet the two nations but you are too one eye….

    Asking Deans to work with Link is like asking Tony Abott to work with Julia Gillard….

    Aust will never be consistently good at rugby like the AB due to lack of develment at grass root level and that’s for the ARU to think about… league n AFL do so well at developing their talent n ARU relies on poaching them!

  • gerard flanagan

    Interesting to read the above comment ‘cos I’m a blow in, but…………….

    Truth be known any purist would agree that France were robbed because a ref was intimidated in the last WC. Tainted forever, given the offside play by Richie and Co…………..

    Now, to the here and now………..Reality is Australia would SMASH NZ if we grabbed a few of our leaguey, eg, . Cronk, Slater and Inglis spring to mind. Goodnight Irene.

    It would be like the Who song if we had these guys and the best of the existing Wallabies

    ANYWAY ANYWHERE ANYHOW

    Then again, maybe we should continue not to give a XXXX about rugby, after all, the average Kiwi feels good/bad on the ABs indicator,which is pretty damn funny. Anyway, we still score victories in defeat – stops a lot of domestic violence………….

  • cole

    your a very sad sad person…thats the right attitude..give up and run away like a scared little mouse or should that be rat…really…fancy putting the blame for the aussie loss on the opposing team and the ref…how bizzare can one get..a truly sad and very disappointed fan indeed…

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