Dwyer’s View: Real Value, Despite Downsides

Bob Dwyer October 3, 2011 81

No GravatarAustralia played some quality rugby in the first 40 minutes against Russia on Saturday, then fell into something of a shambles when the (advisable) changes were made at the break. The tournament-ending injury to Drew Mitchell was heartbreaking, for him and for us, but the return of David Pocock, the quality of Berrick Barnes and the rejuvenation of Radike Samo — albeit selected on the wing — gave us a much-needed lift.

A meat pie for Squeak

The Wallabies began at pace, full of intent and with loads of accuracy in their execution — hallelujah! Lines of running were almost straight, passes were in front of the receiver and, for the first time in memory, support was in behind the ball-carrier. Even Scott Higginbotham was supporting in depth and in behind on tight lines. I was so moved that I sent a text to Phil Kearns saying just this and adding that the coaches must have had a long chat to him.

Alas, I spoke too soon. He and a few of his teammates soon reverted to type and, once again, over-running the ball-carrier became the order of the day. Indeed, total over-run of Luke Burgess’s second-half clean break gave him no viable options at all and allowed Russia’s first try. We became loose, looking for the easy points (viz. Quade’s hopeful cut-out pass) and our game virtually disappeared. One of my (many) suggestions to my teams is that they ‘forget about the scoreboard’; I add that ‘what was right at nil-all, is still right at 30-0 or 0-30′.

Anyway back to the positives! Berrick Barnes was great. He is exactly what we need in the team. He has a mature, clear understanding of the game and executes accurately. He can run, step, pass, tackle and kick — all accurately. If he is not selected for the run-on team, the humorous suggestion that Robbie Deans is actually a Kiwi plant will gain some distinct credibility.

Poey – rampaged

David Pocock was also great, although the Russian tackling was less than committed, and his support play linking backs and forwards was excellent. Come to think of it, there’s a great idea. Let’s get the forwards to chase the ball, link with the backs and do something with it when they get there. During this period of Pocock’s presence, even Burgess was playing close to his forwards and passing from the ground. It was all looking really good. If ever you want a picture of how attention to the simple detail of the attacking game will look, go no further than those 40 minutes!

Samo was playing with a smile on his face — take him to the hot baths each week! Even though he played winger, and pretty well at that, he made some forward-like contributions that he has not made since the Tri Nations finale. Hope springs eternal in the human breast.

Last week, I suggested my team for the Wallabies for the next phase of the tournament. Now that the injuries have been declared, I’ll have another go. From 1 to 22: Alexander, Moore, Slipper, Sharpe, Vickerman, Horwill, Elsom, Pocock, Genia (c), Barnes, Ioane, Horne, Ashley-Cooper, O’Connor, Beale, Polota-Nau, Kepu, Samo, Hodgson, Burgess, Cooper, Turner.

The team that I think will be selected is: Kepu, Moore, Alexander, Horwill (c), Vickerman, Elsom, Samo, Pocock, Genia, Cooper, Ioane, Barnes, Ashley-Cooper, O’Connor, Beale. Polota-Nau, Slipper, Sharpe, Higginbotham, Hodgson, Burgess, Horne.

Sharpey hitting

We are still in with a chance. We’re a bit hit-or-miss, in fact a big bit hit-or-miss, maybe sometimes more miss than hit! But, if we hit, we’re very good and then we’re hard to beat. Indeed, World Cups are all about hitting at the right time.

Psychologically, we’ve shown at times that we can be up for it and, surely, we will be up for this. Technically we still have a long way to go, but we gave some indication against Russia that we could improve still further. Forget the standard and standing of our Russian opposition; accurate execution is entirely in our hands – outcomes will be effected by our opposition. Hope springs eternal in the human breast.

South Africa have looked good. In fact, pre-tournament I suggested a South Africa v. Australia final. This is no longer possible. Ireland continue to improve. I, unlike many others, was not super-impressed with their performance against Australia, but they were great in a difficult match against a committed Italy. Ronan O’Gara looked a different attacking player in this match – Alan Gaffney, take a bow!

Wales look a complete team, but I think that Ireland will prevail. England’s hard-fought win over Scotland should not be underestimated either. They look a very mature side, with real strike power and an ability to play whatever game is required. France were horrible against Tonga, but perhaps that just signals an outstanding performance around the corner. Argentina remain in the top tier, but they are not the side of four years ago in France.

The minnows have all moved forward considerably, so some things are working. Maybe the IRB’s initiatives are having an effect, but I would not jump to conclusions. The next RWC will surely throw up some new threats!

The favourites must still remain New Zealand. They have been dealt a horrible blow with the injury to Daniel Carter and we all are saddened by his absence. He is one of the truly great players and an ornament to the game. They nevertheless remain a complete team and can play a high-paced, high-power, high-impact game with real attention to detail.

I’m excited!

Discussion »

  • Lee Enfield

    If the team Bob thinks will be selected is indeed the team selected, then I will be pretty happy and pretty confident we can get the job done and bring back Bill. Of course, the talent isn’t the issue, it is which attitude the Wallabies turn up with. If the Wallabies attitude matches the talent, then we can win Bill, if it doesn’t well…..

    On the team Bob selected, it is pretty good, but prefer the second option.

    • JKB

      absolutely, Bob’s predicted team is the best we can field.
      please let it be so…

  • Scott Nothing

    Pocock at number 8 is crazy talk. Leave Samo there.

    • Blytherin

      No, I think Bob means play Horwill at 6, Elsom at 8 and Pocock 7 with Samo to the bench. Sounds like a good backrow to me.

      On a completely different note, I think Barnes head injuries have been great for his … Legs!! He’s playing with plenty of zip-zip and I can only guess the long, enforced lay-off must have helped heal up all the injuries and what not that were slowing him down. Great to see, and good luck to him.

      • bill

        In sloppy conditions Horwill might make a good blindside but when they tried him at 6 for Qld it just took him out of the game. It was interesting to see the Scots scrum packing against England though. The blindside packed down as a third secondrower, whether that helped a smaller looking pack disrupt the English I don’t know, but one of the problems , on occasion, we had in the Irish game was Horwill packing too high and basically leaving the frontrow to go it alone. Small surprise they looked bad at times when it was 3 against 8.

        I’d just put it down to a bad day at the office, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see Horwill start on the bench more with a view to freshen him for the Abs than as a criticism…oh he’s captain that won’t happen then.

        Pocock will need all the help he can get anyway. As to how we do that?

  • Robson

    Sharpe is not in the team you expect to be announced Bob! And Alexander – despite some issues at TH is still better on that side of the scrum than at LH. He takes a long time to readjust to the feet placement differences between TH and LH and I wouldn’t take him back on to the LH side this late in the tournament.

    But back to Sharpe. How often does he have to prove that he is the best lineout forward the Wallabies have (right up there with the great Victor Matfield – who obviously doesn’t play for the Wallabies!!!) to get included in the run on side? His scrummaging has also improved out of sight with a much better pre engagment stance and he gets across the game line with ball in hand more often than not. He also brings some great “generalship” qualities to the pack as well and is an excellent 2ic for Horwill. To me he is a “must start” and to stay on for the full eighty.

    However, to me the dye will be cast not so much in the quality of the selections, but in the quality of the attitudes that are taken on to the park by whoever is selected. If the Wallaby pack is able to bring the same fiery enthusiasm to the game on Saturday that they brought to the first forty of the Tri Nations final, and maintain that enthusiasm for eighty minutes; ESPECIALLY at the breakdown the Wallabies can ink in a date with the All Blacks for an Eden Park semi. That is all it will take, an eighty minute repeat of the Tri Nations final!! If the pack is able to hammer that performance in again, the back line will look after itself and we will be one step closer to Bill.

    No need to say what the outcome will be if the pack don’t perform right up to those expectations.

    • Jaydee

      Sharpey should get the start againast the saffas, as we will expect them to kick the ball into touch often and pressure us at lineout with Matfield and co. Sharpe is our best lineout catcher by far. In fact i think he got the start in the away game against SA this year and was one of the best on the ground. Against the darkness, their lineout is no better than ours so Vickerman could come in because he can cause mayhem at the breakdown (unfortunately also penalties, though !!). Steven Moore has to play 80 mins as TPN and Faingaa’s throws are not consistent at the moment and could come uunstuck in Windy Wellington., and Pocock, well he has to play 80 as well – no option.

      Just on another point, isn’t it funny how the Irish could play at a reasonable tempo against the Italians last night without having an injured front row every time there was a scrum or lineout in their own 22 ???? perhaps it suited them, maybe they had a bit of bad luck with non serious injuries against Australia. It is a pet hate and I wish the refs would just say “look, that is the 3rd time you have needed medical attention, get up or bugger off “. But, then the ref was Bryce. after all.

      On Bryce, how did we go down in the penalty count 9 to 4 on Saturday when we had all the ball, all the momentum ?? Why would we deliberately take a stable scrum down when the 1/2 back was about to pick up the ball – how would that advantage us ?? Is there not some consideration of “intent” when the whistle blower decides to ping ?? Joubert on Sunday – no penalty in the same situation. Does anyone know when the ref appointments are made as I fear if it is Bryce again we may be cooked .

      • Wheatman

        We have Bryce again, and I do fear we’re cooked. Beat the Saffas and we won’t have him again – on the bright side! Not that the ref will change the outcome, we just have to play bloody awesome.

        • Muffy

          I had to have a sarcastic smile at Bryce this weekend, he pings us twice, when the Russian TH was clearly boring in. Then has the temerity to warn the Russian just beofre a scrum that he will get pinged if he does it again. Vlad stops and as if by magic no more problems.

          So BL could see what was going on, but chose to ping the WBs and coach the Russians… isn’t he a nice guy.

        • Blytherin

          Noooooooohh!!
          Please god, tell me that’s a mistake. Not Bryce.

      • Wallabies Fan 2011

        Bryce Lawrence is the Wallabies new Kaplan. Actually he is worse. Funnily enough Kaplan I think has reffed very well this tournament and this season in general….I can’t believe I just said that.

  • Rhino

    I would imagine a solid majority of us would prefer the the team Bob “thinks” will get selected rather than the one he “would” choose.

    Bob – sadly your long-standing hatred of the Reds, manifested in your mind-numbing criticisms of Cooper or Higgers, colours your selection philosophies. You tolerate Horwill at best. You have a man-crush on Rob Horne for some indecipherable reason. In your 22 there are 8 Waratahs and 6 Reds. I mean seriously – did you even watch the Super15?

    Give yourself an uppercut Bob.

    • Better Red Than Ted

      Yes, Qld could produce 3 clones of Bob’s beloved Ella brothers, and Bob would find a way to bag them.

    • AC

      Don’t have to agree with him, but I think the guy who won us the RWC in 91, deserves a bit more respect than that.

      • Patrick

        Generally yes, but he has to get over Horne, too.

    • Graeme

      I’m just praying Deans goes with the team that Bob thinks will be chosen, that looks like a very, very strong Aussie team. Unfortunately I am afraid dingo will do something to dog us.

  • WithaRebelYell

    10. Cooper,12. Barnes = final

    10. Cooper, 12 McCabe = Australia home Monday morning

    • Blytherin

      Nah.
      8 forwards playing out of their skin = SF with the Darkness.
      8 forwards playing like usual = flight to Sydney.

      • commonasmud

        Blytherin is on the money!

        • Robson

          Totally on the money.

  • commonasmud

    Yes Bob, those three players screaming up inside Burgess in support, it’s really their fault he held on to the ball too long, didn’t look inside at all, and then proceeded to fall over his own feet and look like a complete arse… (pretty please don’t run so fast in future when your team mate makes a break!)

    Burgess is a gifted player, and I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and put it down to a bit of rust combined with nerves. But the evidence speaks for itself – having made a great break, Burgess sh*t himself, BUTCHERED a try, and gifted one to the Ruskies. The support players bust a gut to get there, and he f*cked it up, plain and simple.

    Not a mortal sin, but again just emphasises the gulf between Genia and his rivals.

  • KingofDubai

    Any chance Those Victoria cross recipients can present the wallabies with their jerseys again? Did the trick last time, why f$ck around send them over ASAP so we can get the job done and role the Bokke

    • Blinky Bill of Bellingen

      KOB – You took the words right out of my mouth with your Victoria Cross question.

      If you had to have one last amazingly motivational moving speach and presentation before an important match, which would would it be? The QF’s or wait until the semi’s?

      Keep in mind that IF the forwards do not man up and take on the Bokke at the breakdown and every other opportunity, then it’s all over red rover.

      • Joe_Mac

        I would save it for the old foe in the final…

        If this team makes it that far i fear they will be so full of themselves for knocking over the darkness in SF that they will choke against England.

        If that happens I am buring my Wallabies jerseys and supporting lawn bowls…

        • Blinky Bill of Bellingen

          Ha!

          Win, lose or draw…….I’ll stick with the Wallabies. So how about I exchange a box of ashes for your jersey & I’ll even throw a set of lawn bowls into the deal to kind of ‘ease your pain’.

          But I guess your logic is ‘keep your powder dry’ until the finals.

  • Garry

    Our set pieces may be the difference between going through or not.

    Scrums will be difficult against the Saffers, that’s a given. But our line-out throws will have be straight and on target, or the Boks will gobble them up. Will we contest their throws this week?

    And how many kickoff receives will we fluff, and result in turnovers. On average about 3 per game?

    Over to you, Jim Williams.

  • WCR FAN

    Great to see Hodgo finally get his call.

    He offers absolutely the best Back Coverage from off the bench.

    Should have been there from the start of the campaign.

    • Garry

      yes,

      and touch wood, he won’t see any game time.

      We needed him.

  • BloodRed

    As much as it seems to be getting said that Quade is better with Berrick outside him, I’d say that applies to Berrick as well in that he is much better with Quade inside him (no Sydney joke intended). Perhaps that is just a vote for the 2 playmakers model. The time off seems to have done Berrick the world of good, attacking running, strong tackling, good option taking AND he has learnt how to pass the ball to the right without that shitty league back spin.

    Spotted Higgers supporting from in behind and even had the thought that Bob would be happy with that. Alas it seems the satisfication was fleeting

    Agree that the anticipated team is the most likely to get picked. Don’t like the look of the forwards in Bob’s dream team. Big Kev wasn’t a very good number 6 at superXV level so wouldn’t want to be trying him out again there at QF time. Likewise Rocky was crap the last time he played 8 at international level although he did get time there at Lenster. Can’t argue with Pocock

  • AC

    Boks have lost their one of their crucial playmakers/kickers in Frans Steyn. Darkness have lost Dan Carter. Worst case injuries for both teams. Tough side of the draw or not, if the Wallabies can’t win now, then we simply aren’t up to it.

    • commonasmud

      No – worst case injury would be to lose your best prop. As others on this forum have said before, the backs only determine your winning margin. B Robinson has left some mighty big shoes to fill…

      • Ooaahh

        all those goals Fatcat kicks from beyond the half way line will be sorely missed for sure.

  • AC

    Dan Carter and Frans Steyn both out. Worst case injuries for both teams. Drew and Palu are a big blow but our game is far from built around them. Was worried about Steyn’s long range kicks and drop goals. Was terrified about Dan Carter taking Quade to school again. Digby and Pocock are back, Berrick’s looking solid and banging the drop goals over at training – just three games to RWC glory!

    • The Rant

      there’s that world famours aussie optimism…all to rare right now! Top Stuff.

    • 2ndRowLegal

      If God had offered to smite one player from each team to help Australia reach the final, it would have been Carter and F. Steyn – probably Sheridan as well.
      Feel very sorry for the kiwis (not so much the Boks or Poms). Opportunity knocks.

      • Graeme

        If we miraculously make it to the final, no only will I convert back to christianity, I’ll be praying for him to smite all three front towers from whichever of England, Ireland or Wales that we play!

      • BloodRed

        Personally I’d have picked B Du Plessis for the Boks, that way they’d have to play Smit

  • mark conley

    I’m with Bob’s selections regarding the selections
    Samo is not up to starting 8 against the Boks, much better option as replacement.
    So who starts 8, not McCalman a good goer but not upto the physicality of the Bok forwards, so Elsom!
    Who plays 6, this is the Boks, so Horwill makes sense, who else?
    Both Vickerman and Sharpe to start as locks against the Boks sounds great to me!
    Kepu is so much potential but surely he has run out of time, move Slipper into TH and Alexander will have to have intensive feet placement retraining this week
    Barnes at 10 with Cooper as a shock replacement 2nd half
    So who 12, Horne, he looked good to me and with Barnes and Horne at 10-12 that’s a solid defence also.
    Bob makes more sense than some people who forget the Reds had the best coach during the year!

    • The Rant

      ahhh, you got me thinking about the big question:

      Would the Reds have won if coached by Robbie Deans?????

      • http://www.doubletakeproductions.com.au/sports/ armatt

        no.

        • The Rant

          exactly…

    • BloodRed

      Sorry to be repetitive but cut and paste from above;

      “Big Kev wasn’t a very good number 6 at superXV level so wouldn’t want to be trying him out again there at QF time. Likewise Rocky was crap the last time he played 8 at international level although he did get time there at Lenster.”

      Horne? You’ve got to be kidding. No matter how good he is or could be, he can’t get thru a single game without a new injury. Unfortunately Cliffy and the Drewster have proved the danger of hoping injured players can come good and survive with limited or no pre-tournement match fitness.

      RWC quarter finals is not the time to be crossing fingers on players out of position and injured. Pick the best available (i.e. fit) and play them in their best position – to that point, Kepu should have been TH all along and Ben A at LH.

      • Funk

        “to that point, Kepu should have been TH all along and Ben A at LH.” I’ve been waiting for the Princess Bride, Inigo Montoya’s ” I know something you don’t know – I’m not left handed” switch for a while now!

        • bill

          Maybe Robbies channeling that film, no backup openside initially, “inconceivable!”. or was it “unbelievable!”.

        • mark conley

          Up there with “To kill a mocking bird”, “Guess who’s coming to dinner”, and “Zatoichi”!

  • Dougie

    Bob, I thought you were wrong about Big Kev in your last post, but I did think against Ivan he looked like he was carrying injury niggles that were preventing him from playing his hardest. His work rate was nowhere near Sharpies and he looked a tad shy in the pushing for him. In current form he couldn’t play back row. Sharp has earned a start, and is one of the few 80 minute forwards. Its a big call but even tho it exposes us to second half penalties and a switch of captains, I’d be tempted to pull Big Kev off at half time and get Vickers to really lift the physicality after the break. Also for second half physicality, I’d be tempted to start with Higgers at blindside and let Rocky come in and play with fury in the second 40. Or shorten the line out options and alternate Radeke and Hodgson on blindside. All big calls, but all the games point to a need to stick a cattle prod into the big mickys as they go down the race for the second 40. We need different strategic forward changes because what they’ve done so far hasn’t worked.

    The scrum is going to be the biggest issue. If the Irish could push us around what will the Afrikans monsters do to us? I’m betting the Boks get 12 points from scrum penalties. Which means that on our put in its got to come out the back like mercury out of a duck’s derriere. Our only chance to win this match is quick ball, quick ball, quick ball, and all out attack.

    • Blinky Bill of Bellingen

      Worst kept secret in Rugby is that we need quick ball to thrive.

      I hope Robbie has been practicing making the most of slow or dirty ball because that’s what teams will be aiming to do to us.

    • BloodRed

      Irish didn’t push us around for the first 20 minutes and then TPN ran out of puff and Deans refused to replace him. Just another example of injured player not being able to get back to fitness and form with no lead into the tournement.

      • Wallabies Fan 2011

        Bang on blood red. You beat me to it. Mike Ross the Irish prop, I think it is, is exactly like the Franks brothers. If they miss the hit they drop their bind and stand up when pushing this forces the opposing prop 1 of 2 ways. 1 to the ground or 2 inwards.

        Why aren’t refs reffing this rule anymore. The first prop or front rower to put their head up should be penalised not warned. IT was always that way when I played but they must have changed the rules somewhere along the line and didn’t tell me about it.

  • Cantab

    I say it’s been the best tournament ever (results wise) so far. Bit sad to see mitchel, carter and steyn all drop out within 2 days. Mitchels hammy happened straight in front of me, not fun stuff to watch.

    • Drop kick

      Happened right in front of me too. you weren’t one of the three people i was sitting next too wearing quade Cooper masks were you?

      More than anything I think his injury turned the game, the wallabies just lost all intensity after that happened.

  • Queenslander

    To win the big ones you need possession and not be frivilous with it. I fear we may be too soft in contact and as sure as God made little green apples Cooper will do something stupid and frivilous at the wrong time. Hopefully Berrick is practicing saying’fuck no Coops, not here’ and if he can control Cooper and get a bit more ball to use his quite substantial play making skills we may get over the line. If not I demand Deans and O’Neills immediate resignation.

  • RJ

    Reading this just makes me nervous. My heart is pounding. It is orrnnn!!
    Please wallabies win so I can jump on keo and troll untill i cannot troll anymore.

  • Willy

    I’d be interested in selecting Horwill at 6 and Rocky at 8 for no other reason than it gives us four top-class lineout jumpers, and I suspect we’ll be needing them against the Boks.

    • softas

      hey soft cock have a punt, get on keo now and back your boys. have a little faith because i can tell you the saffas do.

      • touko

        Did your wife nickname you ‘Soft-as’?

  • Joe Mac

    This the QF’s and not the time to try out new combinations.

    Samo at 8 provides just as many good line-out options…

  • jimmy

    “If he (Berrick Barnes) is not selected for the run-on team, the humorous suggestion that Robbie Deans is actually a Kiwi plant will gain some distinct credibility.”

    Sorry Bob – it’s not a humorous suggestion…it’s distinctly probable.

    The record under Deans,
    The loss to teams we have never lost to,
    our inability to beat the All Blacks in 10 games,
    Inconceivable selections,
    The failure to bring on reserves in the Ireland game until the 75th minute,
    The lack of passion within the team,
    The fact that we never seem to express our displeasure with being assigned sub standard referees on a regular basis (yes Bryce you twat I’m referring to you and Allain) – unlike the Kiwis who have their undesirbale refs removed.
    Our failure to target key opposition All Blacks in big games.

    It all leads to one conclusion…Deans is being paid by the NZRU to ensure NZ take home the WC. It’s all part of an extensive plan involving referees, the media and the weather, to stop our boys (or others) bringing back Bill.

    • Ooaahh

      Jimmy,

      how does a team have the ref removed? Is there an actual real process or you just supposing cos head ref is a kiwi?

      Cheers

      • Wallabies Fan 2011

        I think he is reffering to the fact that Stu Dickinson is not at the Rugby World Cup and never refs New Zealand anymore.

        • optimism

          probably just cos he’s a useless douche

        • Wallabies Fan 2011

          No we are talking about Bryce Lawrence here not Dickinson.

  • Muzwell

    Just want to pay respect to Bob’s last comment: “I’m excited!”

    Bob can come across a bit curmudgeonly at times – so it’s great to see a 70 year old rugby legend acknowledge how excited he still gets watching the best players in the world bashing 2 hells of living shit out of each other :)

    Also, classy comment about Daniel Carter: “He is one of the truly great players and an ornament to the game.”

    It’s a real pisser that we lost to Ireland, but credit where it’s due: so far this has been a cracking world cup. Much better than the last one. Kudos to the kiwis. I hope we manage to stick around for the semis – but let’s not lose sight of the fact that it isn’t all about the Wallabies.

    I’m a rugby fan 1st, Wallabies fan 2nd. And I think most real rugby supporters would say the same – no matter which nation they support.

  • Colvin

    Well, the Wallabies have beaten the Boks five times out of the last six; they have most of their top players available; they are sufficiently rested and are due to pull out a really big one; they will be more at home in New Zealand than the Boks; let’s hope the weather is fine.

    The Boks have done OK in the tournament so far but don’t really look like they have the players or the game to win. On the basis of recent results you would have to pick the Wallabies.

    Go the Wallabies. Boks to go home next week. Wallabies by 6.

    • Blinky Bill of Bellingen

      I’m looking for a straw to grasp to give me faith leading to Sunday soooo “they will be more at home in New Zealand than the Boks; let’s hope the weather is fine.”

      As Pauline Hanson would say ‘please explain’. How are we more at home in NZ than the Boks?

      Saffers seem to be playing well enough and may I suggest building nicely. Whereas we seem to be our usual bumbling along ‘brilliant one minute & hopeless the next’ selves.

    • optimism

      the wallabies arent more at home in NZ!

      come on man, wake up and smell the roses.

      the entire population of browns bay is south african, and thousands more flood to nz each year. while aussies mock kiwis about dole bludging, south africans embrace nz as their new home AND carry their springbok support with them.

      make no mistake. the south african support will be huge. PLUS most of the aussie supporters bought tickets for the wrong quarter (barbarian, hahahaha! fool)

      PLUS all the neutral kiwi fans will be yelling for south africa like nobodies business, not because it makes any difference to the allblacks, but purely because cooper is a nobhead who has singlehandedly created away games for every match for his poor team.

      • Colvin

        Well, I like to think I do smell the roses each day.

        As a one eyed AB supporter I’m trying to let you Aussies know that life around the Wallabies isn’t all as bad as one would think from reading this website; where at different times I have been appalled at what I see as dreadful language, negativity and frankly bad sportsmenship.

        Here am I as a one eyed AB supporter letting you know that I am impressed with a lot of what Australian rugby is doing and I believe that it will be borne out this weekend when the Boks are sent packing.

        Go the Wallabies, you good things.

      • Colvin

        Latest survey in NZ. UMR Reseach has determined 63% of Kiwis want a Wallaby win; 25% want a Boks win. Something like I have been saying.

        Go the Wallabies.

  • Ooaahh

    Just informed that even though Australia did beat South Africa 14-9 in Durban and minnows Russia 68-22 under Lawrence, in his (BL) three Tests in charge this year Wallabies have been heavily punished.

    The total penalty count stands at 34-19 against.

    • Better Red Than Ted

      And it’s just brilliant foresight by Paddy O’Brien to ensure that there is zero possibility that anyone can even suggest bias, when he appoinmts a NZ ref (regardless of his standard) for a match where the winner gets to play… well, you know the rest.

    • Colvin

      Well, some of the team are New Zealanders; others have lived or been brought up in New Zealand; the Wallabies live close by, just across the ditch, (the Boks live half a world away); they are coached by a New Zealander who knows the scene better than most; they have an Australian assistant coach who has lived and coached in New Zealand and who also knows the scene. The experienced Wallabies have been coming to New Zealand for years; in a very real sense Australians and New Zealanders are much closer in every aspect of their lives compared with South Africans who culturally are very different. Therefore the Wallabies will feel more at home than the Boks. When the chips are down the Wallabies know how to pull out a big one. This weekend is it.

      Boks to go home next week.

      • Blinky Bill of Bellingen

        That’ll do me. ;)

  • mark conley

    Never thought, but BRING BACK KAPLAN!

  • KDog

    Fuck kaplan give me Barnes

    • mark conley

      Yeah ‘Barnes, Barnes,..’

  • wobbly

    Surely that’s a sick joke that Bryce Lawrence is reffing us again.

    We’re fucked if that’s the case. I think I’ll watch the soccer this weekend!

  • ’boutbloodytime

    BL is an easy fix….on the next play after he gives a dodgy call, drive him into the bottom of the ruck, when he comes up spitting out a few teeth it’s time for ‘sorry ref, thought you were playing for South Africa with some of those calls’…exit stage left Bryce Lawrence…

    Yes, my tongue is firmly planted in my cheek but there definitely needs to be more accountability for consistently bad refereeing decisions or for the contentious decision of giving the Wallabies the same ref 3 out of 5 games in the one tournament…

    Having said that, at least the Wallabies haven’t had to suffer some of the ridiculously short turnaround times that some of the 2nd tier teams have had to put up with this tournament.

    If the Wallabies get up mentally & play with the same intensity as at the trinations finale, BL will be a minor consideration…

    C’mon Wallabies!

  • Brax

    All this hand wringing about the referee is just a bit too whiny for my liking. It is what it is & if they are good enough they will still win no matter who is the official. I do believe Mr Lawrence officiated in the S15 final to, that didn’t hamper the Reds from winning.
    For what it’s worth, even Kiwi’s I have talked to think Bryce is a rubbish ref…. I’d suggest his ineptness shows no bias….. he’s equally crap for all teams.
    Stop making excuses before the game, it’s just not the Australian way!

    • Wallabies Fan 2011

      I would also say that it didn’t help the reds win the title either. The breakdown and scrum is where Bryce has 0 i repeat 0 idea. Offside in and around the breakdown is generally a free for all with him and his scrums penalties are well just baffling.

      • Robson

        Hmm, the ref’s not meant to HELP teams win titles, but I agree that Bryce does challenge the imagination more often than not. Hell let’s confine our energies to worrying about what the Wallabies will do, I don’t have any worry space left over for the refs too.

  • peterlala

    Bob, been reading rugby all around the world during the cup. You are in the elite class.

    You comment,

    I add that ‘what was right at nil-all, is still right at 30-0 or 0-30′

    is worth meditating on for years.

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