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Friday’s Rugby News sees the Super Rugby returning, club corner, Folau appealing and Rugby Australia recruiting.


The time be upon us

 Moses Sorovi passes

Moses Sorovi passes

The international June series is behind us, and ahead lies round 17 of Super Rugby. So without further ado, lets get lit:

The Reds kick off the Aussie conference when they head to Auckland to face the Blues. Amazingly, the Reds are still in with a shot of making the finals. They just have to win every single bloody game.

Kane Douglas returns to the starting lineup, while Eto Nabuli and Jono Lance also return to the backline.  The Reds haven’t won at Eden Park since 2012, so if the Blues keep up their current form they could be a chance here.

Reds Squad: Jono Lance, Jordan Petaia, Samu Kerevi, Duncan Paia’aua, Eto Nabuli, Hamish Stewart, Moses Sorovi, Scott Higginbotham (c), George Smith, Lukhan Tui, Kane Douglas, Harry Hockings, Taniela Tupou, Brandon Paenga-Amosa, JP Smith. Reserves: Alex Mafi, Harry Hoopert, Ruan Smith, Caleb Timu, Angus Scott-Young, Tate McDermott, Aidan Toua, Filipo Daugunu.

The Blues have knocked over stronger Aussie sides before, and this time they are at home. However, if ever there is any time for this Reds outfit to stand up, it is now. Still going with the Blues though. Blues by 4.

Next up, we go to Melbourne. Whether we like it or not, this match between the Rebels and the Waratahs effectively decides who is going to be representing Australia in the quarter finals.

Starting with the home side, Dave Wessels has made two changes to his side that beat the Blues in NZ, with Geoff Parling and Ben Daley coming back into the squad. It’s been a right-weird season for Stockade fans, with the boys winning four of their first five games, losing the next five, and now are sitting on a three game winning streak.

The Tahs meanwhile will be without Michael Hooper for the first time since 2013 (yep, it’s been that fooking long), and also are sweating on the result of Thursday’s hearing on Izzy Folau, (and yeah, I’ll add a comment in once we know what the outcome of that is). Ned Hanigan will come in to the squad, and should Folau get the chop, Bryce Hegarty will likely start at fullback.

Rebels Squad: Dane Haylett-Petty, Jack Maddocks, Tom English (c), Billy Meakes, Marika Koroibete, Reece Hodge, Michael Ruru, Amanaki Mafi, Colby Fainga’a, Angus Cottrell, Geoff Parling, Matt Philip, Sam Talakai, Anaru Rangi, Ben Daley. Reserves: Nathan Charles, Fereti Sa’aga, Jermaine Ainsley, Ross Haylett-Petty, Lopeti Timani, Harrison Goddard, Jack Debreczeni, Sefa Naivalu

Waratahs Squad: Israel Folau/Bryce Hegarty, Cam Clark, Curtis Rona, Kurtley Beale, Taqele Naiyaravoro, Bernard Foley (c), Nick Phipps, Michael Wells, Will Miller, Ned Hanigan, Rob Simmons, Jed Holloway, Sekope Kepu, Damien Fitzpatrick, Tom Robertson. Reserves: Tolu Latu, Harry Johnson-Holmes, Paddy Ryan, Tom Staniforth, Brad Wilkin, Jake Gordon, Bryce Hegarty/TBC, Alex Newsome

This is a pretty damn hard one to call. The Tahs have been arguably more consistent all season, but the Rebels are currently on a three game winning streak. It depends which Rebels side turns up in the second half, but if it’s the good one I’m going with them. Rebels by 5.

Lastly, my boys the Brumbies will keep their campaign alive when the host the Hurricanes in Canberra on Saturday.

The Brums have won their last two games against the Bulls and Sunwolves, but this Canes side looks to be a tough proposition. Dan McKellar has made four changes to the starting lineup, with Hooker Folau Fainga’a, prop Ben Alexander, lock Rory Arnold and flanker Tom Cusack coming in.

Brumbies SquadTom Banks, Henry Speight, Tevita Kuridrani, Kyle Godwin, Andrew Muirhead, Christian Lealiifano (c), Joe Powell, Isi Naisarani, David Pocock, Tom Cusack, Blake Enever, Rory Arnold, Ben Alexander, Folau Fainga’a, Scott Sio. Reserves: Connal McInerney, Nic Mayhew, Leslie Leuluaialii-Makin, Richie Arnold, Darcy Swain, Matt Lucas, Wharenui Hawera, Lausii Taliauli

As much as the Ponies have looked okay the last two rounds, I don’t see how that will continue against this Hurricanes outfit. Canes by 10.

In the other matches of the round, the Highlanders will host the Chiefs, the Sunwolves will play the Bulls, the Sharks will play the Lions and the Jags will host the Stormers.

Club Corner

Tom Pincus runs with the ball (Image Credit: Paul Seiser/SPA Images)

Tom Pincus runs with the ball (Image Credit: Paul Seiser/SPA Images)

Club rugby continues this weekend all around the country, so let’s take a look back at the week that was.

Round Eleven of the Shute Shield saw Wests go down to Manly 34-45, The Rebels pumped Parra 66-21, Eastern Suburbs pulled off an important win over Eastwood 36-27, Gordon turned up and give Warringah a fright at Rat Park, before going down 27-26, and the Students defeated the Wicks 28-10.

Round Twelve Fixtures:

Gordon v Randwick 
West Harbour v Eastern Suburbs 
Manly v Sydney University
Parramatta v Warringah 
Eastwood v Northern Suburbs

Down in Victoria, round nine of the Dewar Shield saw Endeavour Hills go down 5-46 to Power House,  Footscray go down 36-52 to Box Hill, Melbourne held Uni scoreless 0-43, and Moorabbin went down 7-19 to Harlequins.

Round Ten Fixtures:

Endeavour Hills v Moorabbin
Footscray v Melbourne Uni
Harlequin Rugby Club v Box Hill 
Melbourne v Power House

In Canberra, round twelve of the John I Dent Cup saw Easts go down 36-51 to Wests, Tuggeranong beat Gungahlin 31-21, and Queanbeyan beat Uni-Norths 24-17.

Royals v Easts 
Tuggeranong v Queanbeyan 
Wests v Gungahlin

Uni-Norths have the bye.

In South Australia, round eight of the Coopers Premier Grade saw Onkaparinga go down in a thriller to Old Collegians 34-36, Woodville lose at home to Souths Suburbs 31-38, and Burnside defeat Brighton 32-27.

Round Nine Fixtures:

Burnside v Onkaparinga
Brighton v Souths Suburbs 
Woodville v Old Collegians 

Over in beautiful Perth, round eleven of the Fortescue Metals Premier Grade saw Palmyra defeat the Cavaliers 34-31, Wests thumped the Lions 75-7, Cottlesloe defeated UWA 32-22, Kalamunda defeated Joondalip 27-25, Nedlands won at home against Wanneroo, 48 – 20 and Associates prevailed over Perth Bayswater 38-27.

Round Twelve Fixtures:

UWA v Kalamunda 
Coastal Cavaliers v Wests Scarborough
ARKs v Joondalup 
Southern Lions v Nedlands 
Wanneroo Districts v Associates
Perth Bayswater v Cottesloe

Palmyra have the bye.

And finally, round thirteen of the Hospital Challenge Cup saw Uni of Queensland defeat Sunnybank 29-26, Brothers defeat Souths 28-19, Easts fell to  Bond Uni 17-22, and Norths defeated Wests 37-19.

Sunnybank v Easts 
Bond University v Brothers
GPS v Norths 
Souths v Wests

University of Queensland has the bye.

RA searching

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Silver Medallists – Australia

Rugby Australia have added another critical member to their national structure, with it being announced that Cameron Murray would take on the role of Chief Commercial Officer, starting July 20.

If most of you folks don’t know who Cameron Murray is, no fuss.

He is no stranger to sporting landscapes, having just finished a stint on the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games Organising Committee. Add to that, he’s also worked for the Gold Coast Titans in the NRL, and had also worked for the Nine Network.

Raelene Castle was pretty chuffed with the appointment, and let everyone know about it when she spoke to rugby.com.au. 

“Cameron is a very experienced senior executive who comes with a specific blend of skills that will enable us to take our commercial program to the next level,” she said.

“He has driven transformational outcomes for the businesses he has led and has strong relationships across both the sports and media industries which positions him well to take on a very important role within Rugby Australia.

“Cameron will provide strong leadership across Rugby Australia’s commercial program, including our partnerships, marketing and operations teams and we look forward to officially welcoming him into the role at the end of July.”

Murray is predicted to be the first of two major executive appointments to the governing body, with the second appointment forthcoming.

Probably old news at this point

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On Thursday, Rugby Australia announced that it would launch an appeal into World Rugby’s one match suspension of Israel Folau. 

The meeting was scheduled for 8pm last night, and as of this going to be published nothing has been heard from the folks over at Rugby HQ.

Many folks at the Waratahs have made it clear that that they want Izzy back, as his potency as an attacking weapon will be crucial for their season defining clash against the Rebels tonight.

Daryl Gibson has gone even further though however, saying that should the band stand, it would run the risk of legislating the aerial contest into oblivion.

“It really makes us look at the kick contest area and exactly how we can, if it goes this way, how we can provide a law that covers or provides for what is happening in terms of the collisions and guys landing on their heads,” he said to Yahoo News. 

This comes after comments made to ESPN by All Blacks coach Steve Hansen that World Rugby was lacking leadership on the issue. 

Hansen sympathised with Michael Cheika‘s frustrations post match last Saturday.

“It’s an area of the game that World Rugby needs to take some ownership of and lead,” Hansen said.

“You’ve got Cheiks not happy with how his game is reffed too. It’s got faster, it’s got really fluid but we haven’t really changed the way we ref.

“It has got to a point where we have got to do something because it is starting to affect the game.”

Hansen even highlighted that ref Angus Gardner followed the laws of the game when he gave a red card in the second All Blacks-France test, but it was rescinded by the governing body later in the week.

“I was talking to Gus (Gardner) and he is shrugging his shoulders (saying) ‘what do I do?’,” Hansen said.

“I said ‘well, you can’t do anything other than what you did’.

“World Rugby now have to go away and have a look at it themselves. Common sense should surely prevail.”

Watch this space Friday morning for the handing down of the Folau fisaco.

 

 

  • Greg

    Thanks for the write-up Nick.

    Folau’s appeal has been dismissed.

    I think that this was inevitable.

    As the laws stand, I think that Folau is guilty. He has grasped a player in the air and there has been a dangerous fall.

    The only basis that I can imagine for an appeal is that Folau asserted that the lifter was responsible for the issue. Ie the lifter has put a player in a dangerous position by lifting him into the air, knowing that a collision was to be expected and knowing that if it occurred he would not be able to stupor his player, and so was guilty of dangerous play rather than Folau. I actually think this is the case but it is a hard argument to get up under the current laws.

    • Huw Tindall

      You can’t foul your own player unfortunately otherwise Stander should have been carded for tipping PO’M past the horizontal and dropping him!

      • RyanP

        The laws seem open to allow penalty for dangerous play involving your own team. The law book states “Players must not do anything that is reckless or dangerous to others.” I think World Rugby need to be consistent in their ruling though.

        High tackles are equally penalised regardless of outcome due to the potential for injury. If placing a hand on your opponent whilst fairly competing for the ball is equally penalised (regardless of outcome) there is a risk to the future of the aerial contest.

        If Folau continues to compete for high balls, and other teams respond by using single-man lifts, this will probably happen again. If Folau gets another citing for a similar issue it would have to change his willingness to contest in the air, particularly at the kickoff

      • Greg

        As per RyanP’s comment – Law 9.11 would allow this. I am not aware of it ever being used in his way.

      • Alister Smith

        I once watched a game in Armidale, NSW where the number 8 was unhappy with his halfback’s inability to take the ball out of the scrum at what the 8 considered was the correct time. He took him aside and repeatedly punched him in the head. My point is you can foul your own player but there might not necessarily be a rule against it. By the way, the ref. did send him off – not sure what statute he relied on but no one watching argued that it wasn’t a legitimate send-off.

        • Gareth

          What has rugby come to when you cant even punch your own half back. Nanny state.

        • Human

          i once played in a team where the warm up included everyone punching the halfback so that we did not have to do it after the match and thus delay the start of the BBQ. With Phipps as the halfback….

        • Alister Smith

          Yes it should not just be allowed but encouraged in my opinion

        • Fatflanker

          Sounds like the half-back might have been grabbing the wrong ball(s) to me.

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      Was he banned for a week for a red card offence, or because the citing commissioner thought both challenges were worth yellow cards?

  • Brisneyland Local

    Morning GAGR’s. Well I can understand Gibson and the Waratahs being upset at losing their No.1 player, but the rest of their carry on is a little bit OTT IMHO.
    My view is it is a technique issue. Izzy got it right the first contest but the second and third his technique changed and he grasped at the player in the air. Even if the player hadnt been lifted the issue would still be there. Although I dont think the pivoting fall would have happened.
    Yes single man lifts are an issue, but it doesnt take away the fact that Izzy got it worng!
    I dont know the process or the mechanisms through the WR judiciary. BUt to be honest a 1 week suspension seems fair. It just sucks that it is in a vital round leading into the finals.

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      Best comment I’ve seen on the topic so far. I hope we have more discussion on what should and shouldn’t be allowed (i.e. – one man lifts, lifting outside of line outs) as well as discussions about what, really, is reasonable in terms of competing for high balls. But at the end of the day Izzy did wrong, put someone in danger (regardless of other factors that may have raised his risk), and he was injured as a result. One week seems fair.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Thanks DB. I was inspired by your writing the other day!

      • Brumby Runner

        I think part of the solution is fairly clear. Just legislate and enforce the same laws as are in effect for jumping in the lineout. That is, no contact with the arms at all in the air.

        The more difficult part is what to do about lifting in general play. I would favour doing away with lifting outside the lineout. One on one contest which will be won in most instances by the better jumper. That currently is Folau, but could be anyone from any other side in future. What comes around, goes around.

        I would also like to see the interpretation about the height of the jumpers done away with. So long as, in the referee’s opinion, both jumpers are making a legitimate attempt to catch the ball, then play on if there is accidental contact, other than with the hands/arms, while in the air.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Agree with all that!

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Nope. Lifting a player should be allowed. If the jumpers don’t grab at each other this won’t matter

        • Greg

          And if they collide shoulder to shoulder in the air and there is a dangerous fall? Who is at fault @krl

        • Brisneyland Local

          If it is a fair competition for the ball, and there is no grabbing of the other player, it is Rubbing! And rubbing is racing! Play on!

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          No one. It’s like who’s at fault if someone makes a fair tackle but the player being tackled gets hurt. Sometimes shit just happens

        • Tah Tragic

          Agree that no one is at fault but I think that it is still inherently dangerous to have one person lifted into the path of someone jumping for the ball. The momentum of the jumper is always going to create a dangerous situation for the lifted player. It doesn’t matter if contact is made with arms, shoulders or whatever.
          If there is going to be lifting then it needs to be by 2 people to provide stability and the chance of getting the lifted player down safely.

        • 22DropOut

          That’s an accident. That happens. Apples and oranges.

        • Brumby Runner

          I would take a guess and say that more players are injured when in a vulnerable situation at the ruck than by accidental collision of one on one in the air. Do we want to ban clean outs?

    • Dally M

      Yes, he made contact in the air and at best it was a penalty.

      How is it any different than the incident in the 2nd half when the Irish player was all over DHP from the kick off where he forced the knock on that went into Kerevi? The difference – he was lifted by his own player, he was already leaning backwards, the lifter had lost control and would have fallen on his head regardless.

      Essentially WR have punished Folau for the end result which was significantly contributed to by his own teammate.

      If he wasn’t lifted, he doesn’t land on his head and it’s play on, not even a penalty.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yep you are right, it was a penalty at best, but that is not what the rules say. so he cops what he cops. And yes the Irish player should have been nabbed to, but wasnt.
        Yes his own player contributed, but presently it is debatable whether there is a law that enables punishing one of your own for contributory negligence.
        But ats the rules stand, you played a man in the air, the man landed poorly, he gets suspended!

        • Dally M

          It doesn’t need to be punished, however it should be taken into consideration when looking at the outcome.

          If WR can reverse a red card because Leinart-Brown pushed the French guy as he was about to jump, it shows they can consider the actions of all players involved.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yeah true.
          God knows the machinations and process of WR and their judiciary hearings!
          I think teams will adapt, it is about technique, and tactics.
          If it happens again, I think we will see movement on it. It is just dissapointing for the Tahs that it happens to be this week.

      • Pedro

        That was the first half, not long after izzy’s yellow.

      • 22DropOut

        He grabbed the player and changed his landing trajectory (we know that it wouldn’t have been as likely if safely lifted but that is moot). it wasn’t at best a penalty, it was at worst a red card. Yellow, IMO, was sufficient.

    • Tomthusiasm

      100%, don’t play the man in the air.

      • Brisneyland Local

        ;-)

    • IIPA

      Like most things to do with Izzy it’s a soap opera and I’m over it. He grabbed the guy on his own way down with minimal but enough contact to de-stabilize what was already a precarious position for POM. Harsh but probably fair.

      Speaking of marquee players, hopefully RA play hardball with Charlotte Caslick / the Broncos / NRL. Sure five games of league in a quiet period of rugby sevens and a nice little earn is probably appealing but it’s not a good look when your golden girl is running around for your direct competitor ( in terms of viewers and participants). Caslick is something special and maybe RA need to up the ante on her next contract but they should be telling her NFW when it comes to playing for the Broncos.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yeah agree. Unfortunately the RA coffers are pretty empty at the moment!

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Spending too much on Quade to play club rugby mate

        • Brisneyland Local

          that is a drop in the ocean compared to bailing out bankrupt franshises due to poor decision making.

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Thanks Nick, Looking forward to seeing how the different coaches manage the changes forced on them this weekeknd.The changes to the teams that have been forced by the injuries from the test series will need a change of tactics in some cases and some modifications of the game plan in others. I think it’s a challenge that some coaches and players will fail at and others will prove their worth and manage well. I know the Tahs vs Brumbies is big here but I’m actually looking forward to the Reds vs Blues game . I think BT has taken this team a long way and it’ll be interesting to see how he fires them up for what seems like a bit of a non game as both teams are out of the running, yet one that can be used to start the next years campaign off. Sorry mate but even with the players out of the game Canes by 10

    • Brisneyland Local

      Reds blues will be interesting. Reds will have the scrum. Hope HS is playing ten. Could be a really close and competitive game.

  • Pedro

    Would anyone care if lifting was banned outside of lineouts?

    For me this aspect of the game eats into the constant contest for possession that delineates union from league.

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      Yeah, I actually think it would make for more exciting contests if banning outside of line outs was banned. Would be all about the athletic ability, height and bravery of the players in terms of competing. DMac and Genia prove that you don’t have to be a giant to be great under a high ball. Their bravery more than compensates for their lack of height against many taller opponents.

      • Pedro

        Plus you can better defined offenses “a la” basketball rebounding. If you’re jumping straight up you’re protected. If you’re jumping across and make contact it’s a penalty.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Good point!

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Yeah I would. The challenge in the air is a great play. I think the issue is simply that both players need to modify their play and ensure that if they miss the ball they don’t grab onto each other. Hard to do at times but they just need to adapt.

      • Pedro

        Just seems artificial to me and there’d still be a contest without lifters.

      • Greg

        as below… not just grabbing. A player lifted by one other player is inherently unstable if there is any collision at all. Collisions are allowed.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          They are now. Nothing wrong with a fair contest

        • Greg

          and the bumped, lifted player lands on their head? it will be a card.

          Lack of a card might be cited (Folau). A card might be overturned (Fall).

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Not necessarily. Even under the new rule there isn’t a card for causing an injury, the cards are for reckless or dangerous play that causes an injury. Grabbing at someone is reckless, competing with them fairly isn’t.

      • juswal

        It’s easy to write that expectation. When you’re two metres off the ground and you haven’t even realised yet that the ball’s evaded your clutching arms, you can’t be accountable for getting entangled with opposition arms and armpits. Folau’s grabbing actions only look deliberate in slo-mo replays.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Yep not easy at all but I think it’s still necessary and if you can’t adjust then you shouldn’t compete

    • Dally M

      My initial thoughts were it needed to be scrapped, but then you would be handing the advantage to the kicking team in a lot of instances as they would be static under the ball a lot of the time while the kick chasers would be in forward motion and leaping.

      • Greg

        That is not what you see in general play. both attackers and defenders often jump. Usually with no issues.

        The issue we have is the static defensive situation which can only really occur no a restart, including a 22.

        • Dally M

          It’s usually the deep kick off where you don’t see that, and the player is lifted to secure the ball.

          A lot of the time it’s not contested unless you have an Izzy etc. in your team

      • Pedro

        Stand deeper if you want a run up. Nature will find a way.

        • Dally M

          Higher risk of knock on for the receiving team.

        • Pedro

          How?

        • Dally M

          There always is with 2 players leaping for the ball, getting tangled up.

          The receiving team ends up inside their own 22 with a defending scrum..

          If the kicking team knock it on, it’s still a scrum inside the oppositions 22. Win/Win. As long as it’s a ‘fair contest’ you aren’t really that fussed if all you do is spoil it and knock on.

        • Pedro

          Most long kicks will still be only rarely contestable. I don’t see the issue with allowing more contests with improved safety. If there is an advantage to be had for the kicking team it would exist for both teams at any rate.

        • Parker

          OK. So let’s make it completely equal and restart play with a bounce ball.

      • Custard Taht

        The simple solution would be to outlaw the single man lift; as it is inherently dangerous, as the lifted player is unlikely to remain safe during a fair contest for the ball.

    • 22DropOut

      I don’t see the case for banning lifting outside of lineouts. It is exciting to watch and it makes it more of a contest. We wouldn’t even be having this conversation if Folau didn’t grabbed a player in the air.

      • Pedro

        Meh, I just don’t see it as exciting. I mean it’s kinda impressive but ultimately means there’s less of a contest.

        • 22DropOut

          But if you hang the ball the attacking player has the momentum of running and the defending team are relatively static, much less of a contest surely?

          I don’t see it as an issue and it’s become a story just because of Folau. I’d be reluctant to change the laws of the game pandering to this stuff.

        • Habitual Offender

          Static also uses far less energy than momentum. Swings and roundabouts?

        • Pedro

          Haha, if you say so. There’s nothing stopping receivers from taking a run up.

        • 22DropOut

          “There’s nothing stopping receivers from taking a run up.”

          Apart from time!

        • Pedro

          If you have time to lift someone you have time for a run up. For jumping height you don’t need a huge run up anyway.

        • Parker

          Hadn’t realized the teams were in different time zones

    • Fatflanker

      My wife believes she has the solution to this dilemma…
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9e18cf65e76e5ade44f0c6ff2ff7e776ee574547eab49688931a3ad3194c9ef9.jpg
      ..tighter pants.

      • Pedro

        solves so many, many problems.

      • onlinesideline

        Thats hystericalll. Someone here the other day said in AFL they are “usually” jumping from the same direction and so less likely to smash each other. The fact that this is admired in one game and causig endless headaches in another makes the whole thing an absolute joke doesnt it. Worlds crazy.

        • disqus_NMXfOrw5ot

          I played one game of proper AFL in my life, filling in for my mate’s team when they were short of players. I can tell you the violence of it is different, but on the same level. Sure, there are no one on one full on head on tackles where you’re allowed to drive your shoulder into someone’s ribs while they try to smash through you, but the collisions come from every freaking direction and you don’t see half of them coming so you can’t brace yourself. I felt just as beaten up after that game as after a game of rugby.

      • Parker

        Pure gold. Your wife deserves a prize. Give her an annual subscription to the AFL channel.

  • Hoss

    Good morning my fellow rugby aficionado,

    Welcome to Friday and the end of a long week and end of Financial Year. My week has been spent with the walking-dead, auditors, accountants, a forensic accountant and the Board – as much fun as having another lobotomy with a spoon.

    The QC debate raged early, the sentence to the Pastor and tarnishing of his clear rap sheet, there’s the smell of tiger balm in the air, old leather boots and the heady scent of expectation.

    Me, i am calling three Aussie wins, well ones a lock, the Reds to beat the blues and – sit down KRL and strike up the ‘Lotus’ pose, the Ponies to ambush the Canes.

    Waratah’s to beat the Frebs by 13+, the Reds by 9 and the Ponies by 7 – an Aussie ‘three-peat’.

    My contribution to debate over rules, suspensions and officials – please refer exhibit ‘A’ – as an example of all that’s glorious, infuriating, stroke causing, blood-boiling, hypertension leading about rugby, rules, interpretations……………ladies & gentleman i present for your rugby rules edification, the one, the only, voice of the Welsh Valleys & Dales, the card-carrying #1 AB fan and general nice guy, Mr Nigel Owens.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK3MEJPvgz4

    • Happyman

      Thanks for that Hoss. At least the French know what we are up against every year. That was one of the worst TMO interventions in the last five years.

      Actually that would be an interesting compilation top ten worst TMO decisions of the last ten years.

    • Dally M

      Ha ha ha how many times have we seen that since without it being pulled up.

    • Missing Link

      Are the 2014 Waratahs playing the 2011 Rebels tonight?

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      To be fair to the Brumbies with the Canes injuries this is their best chance. Also I think they need a win more than the Canes do and that may be telling

      • Tomthusiasm

        That Brumbies backline should have more cohesion than the Canes, I’m still backing the Canes to get the job done but wouldn’t be surprised if the Brumbies pony up. I gave up on tipping the Blues so watch them stuff me over this week.

        • Parker

          I like what you did there. A seven ounce glass of beer for you.

      • Brumby Runner

        It’s a very nice ambition for the Brumbies to have to try for three wins in the last three rounds to have a shot at the finals, but I fear the dream will burst at the first hurdle this weekend. Just can’t see them beating the Canes, the second best side in the comp, even with a few crucial players out.

    • Jerry

      Shit example, clear penalty.

      What is with you Aussies that think the laws don’t apply? Taking lessons from your dumb fuck coach? Applying the Daryl Kerrigan doctrine to referee decisions?

      Whinging about one ref call in a game you lost by 27 points FFS.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Hahaha love this one. Sort of sums up the Wallabies at the moment. A dumb decision by a Wallaby player that didn’t need to be made and that led to a TMO decision that prevented a try. I’ll also say technically correct TMO decision. While the argument about whether he would have made the tackle or not will always be ongoing, any player who changes his line to obstruct another player is just being dumb, especially to do it so obviously as this one.

      Goes back to a point I’ve raised many times, the Wallabies are consistently making poor decisions on the field. Doesn’t matter if it’s in regard to positional play, passing when they shouldn’t, not passing when they should, kicking into the wrong area………….. for some reason they don’t seem to be able to clear their heads and make good decisions. I think they need a mind coach to help them like the ABs have got. I personally think that would make a huge improvement if it was listened to.

      • Hoss

        Reading ‘Legacy’ by James Kerr – that was the single biggest thing they (Ted & McCaw) credit the turnaround from the 07 RWC to the current state too. Surely worth investigating by Gold.

        You can literally see on Spanners face when he has mentally clocked out of a game, its a combination of fear & bewilderment. I actually use some of those teachings from Legacy in my own life – to do with ‘blue head’ – usually when my kids or staff (more usually) do something to irritate the living shit, fuck, bastard, mongrel, shit out of me – i walk away and remind myself to wear my ‘blue head’ or ring my Counsel and get him ready for a fresh round of defence if i cant switch my ‘red head’ off.

        • onlinesideline

          Ive come to the conclusion the best way to deal with things is to have your own ducks in row to the point that what happens through course of the day has less of an impact because basically your so damn happy with your own situation / day / life. Put another way, if a guy walks out of a newsagent after just being told hes just won lotto and some bloke intentionally trips him up, the lotto winner can handle it because he is just so happy in his own world. Water off ducks back.

          Some people / theologies / pyschologists advocate trying to nut out certain negative character traits (ie lke doing ur block) by constantly revisting shitty situations and retesting yourself until you can handle it. I don’t buy it, its no natural. I prefer being the lotto winner, in another words, doing what you need to do to make you happy (which involves embracing what you like doing without guilt, within reason) and so when tested at work or other situations, because you are basically pretty happy, you are less likely to have a meltdown.

          Admittedly with kids its different, because there is worry involved but to a certain extent the same thing applies. There is only so much you can do.

        • Hoss

          Mate – sounds like you need some R&R

          Head to Prague for a weekend, sample some local delicacies, enjoy a bottle or two of Borovička (still get a shudder down my spine just writing it – damn rocket fuel) and enjoy some serenity.

        • onlinesideline

          honestly, laughing my arse off – yeah that was pretty out there.
          My only excuse is its 4.30 in the morning and my Freudian self seems to make an apperance that only the dead of night can be blamed for.
          Back to Foley then …….. poor bugger.

        • Custard Taht

          Control the controllabes and don’t sweat the stuff you can’t. If you do that, you put yourself in the best position to succeed. Whingeing about the uncontrollables means you didn’t do a good enough job controlling the things you can.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          I think that book is one of the best leadership books around. I too use it in my job mate

        • Hoss

          Amen mate – read it from a business point of view, best $25 i have spent in a long time

        • Missing Link

          Dammit, I don’t want to like this book, I don’t want to buy this book, and I don’t want to read this book, but the more I hear about it, the more I want to read it. I think I’ll cover it in green and gold contact so that no one sees me reading it in public :)

        • Hoss

          Buy it in Italian mate, that way it wont feel like your cheating on Oz Rugby

          ‘eredità’

        • Missing Link

          The only Italian I know would get me kicked out of Italian class pretty quickly :)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iINyyfDf_xE

        • Hoss

          This might help – its educational

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujuGKvMSeWA

        • onlinesideline

          Google Gemma Atkinson – his daughter – NSFW !!!!!!!!!!!

        • Missing Link

          “If you can’t beat em, join em” why hasn’t Cheika slipped a copy into each of the Wallabies lockers? seems like a no brainer right?

      • HK Red

        We do make dumb decisions, too bloody many of them, but I didn’t at the time and still don’t agree with the ruling on this incident. If they want to look at interference or changing running lines to put players “off their stride”, what about the running lines and the grabbing from Savea and Retallick on DHP immediately prior? Without that he would have been in a different position and likely already ahead of Savea. As it was DHP fought to work through the interference, something Savea could easily have also done. Savea was never going to get Speight, he was gone, it was a joke of a decision. Anyway, dumb decisions, the Wobs make too many (frustratingly) but so do TMOs.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Yeah I get that mate. Technically correct but tactically not so much. In NZ referee training they emphasise the tactical ruling a lot more than they do here, and I think in the UK.
          In the grand scheme of things in that game it probably wouldn’t have changed the end result but still I can see how frustrating it would have been

    • Hoss

      Where did ‘Jerry’s’ comment go. He sometimes sneaks on here with the humans and is often insightful, witty, articulate and contributes greatly to the debate on here.

      How do i turn the ‘irony’ feature of my keyboard on ??

      • juswal

        Did I miss a visit from Jerry? He posts like Jerry Collins played, leading with forearms and elbows.

      • Jerry

        I deleted it as it was a bit snarky. Tis the weekend and time to be merry.

        • Hoss

          Fair play to you.

      • Missing Link

        I believe ALT + F4 engages irony mode Hoss, failing that try CTRL+ALT+DOWN ARROW

  • 22DropOut

    The return of Super Rugby is such a downer after a cracking month of rugby reminding us of what this game can be to Australia.

    I cannot wait until this tournament dies in 2020 and we can rebuild the game. Counting the days until Bledisloe 1.

  • IIPA

    I cant find any info as to the Plan B for the Tahs now there is no Izzy. I assume Hegarty to fullback but not sure on the reserve, given that Newsome is already in the 23, Foketi is injured and Simone seems MIA. I’d like to see Mack Mason given a chance. Not sure who else they have in the outside back cupboard. The best wingers in the Shute Shield the last two seasons, Harry Jones and Richard Woolf don’t have contracts.

    • Brumby Runner

      I believe Simone is the backup plan. On the subject of outside backs, though, I was impressed with the form of Porter (No 13) for Uni last week. Has he been consistently good?

    • Missing Link

      Freudian slip calling Simmons Simone?

  • Adrian

    Weekend tips:
    Tahs only Oz side to win, but even if they don’t, then still still Oz winner in that game.
    Reds game close, but going for Blues. Can’t see Brums winning, but they might go ok.

  • Georgia Satellite

    “He has driven transformational outcomes…” FFS. This is symptomatic of the malaise in RA. Gibberish.

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