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Friday’s Rugby News sees Super Rugby Round Six, Super W Week Four, Six Nations Back Again and The Men’s Sevens Tour Stops in Canada eh


SUPER RUGBY WEEK SIX

Mitch Short clears from the ruck base.

Mitch Short gets the start this week

Super Rugby is back with a rare Friday triple header to kick things off. After last week’s promising results (Queensland excepted), the Australian sides will be looking to maintain some of the momentum, with at least two of the Friday games looking winnable for the Aussies.

First up is the Brumbies fresh off their bye, and facing the semi-homeless Sunwolves in the much more travel friendly (for the Brums) location of Woolongong. (Friday 1445 AEDT). Fresh off a bye and their somewhat surprising win away to the Chiefs, the Brums will likely make light work of the Sunwovles. Steve Lenthall previews the game here.

With only a dozen games left in their existence and no home games in the forseeable future you could almost expect the white flag to go up from the Sunwolves, but co-captain Jake Schatz told Sam Bruce of ESPN he wasn’t making excuses, saying, “We were always going to be doing lots of travel, so it was more behind the scenes, they were working a lot harder than us [logistically].” In a thoughtful piece, Schatz discusses a number of issues such as the travel, the decision to join a team with a limited life and the support of the Japanese rugby public.

Over in Christchurch, a reshuffled Reds team face the Crusaders (Friday 1605 AEST) with all the odds against them. Missing James O’Connor through injury and resting Tate McDermott and Izack Rodda certainly hasn’t filled Rugby Reg with much hope as he previews the game here. I think Reg might be actually a little too optimistic, despite tipping the Reds to lose by 24. If the Crusaders get on top early, it could get ugly.

Back to Woolongong, and the Waratahs take on the Chiefs (Friday 1815 AEST), and the Waratahs will be hoping to make it two on the bounce after a positive if not complete performance against the Lions last week. They will be up against it with injuries forcing out captain Rob Simmons, along with Tom Robertson, Jake Gordon and Mark Nawaqanitawase. The breakdown will be key here with Sam Cane battling Michael Hooper around the ground. Kurtley Beale takes up the leadership gong with Simmons out.

Down in Melbourne the Rebels have named an unchanged 23 for the first time in five years as they seek to double up on their shock win last week in NZ against the Highlanders. They will play a Lions side who were beaten by the Waratahs last week but looked dangerous at certain points. The confidence will do the Rebels the world of good and with a half decent crowd, should win.

Other games see the Hurricanes play the Blues, with the Blues firing after winning 2 from 2 in South Africa. The Sharks get home to play the Jaguares and the winless Bulls take on the Highlanders.

Tips: Sunwolves v Brumbies: Brums by 38, Crusaders v Reds: Saders by 29, Waratahs v Chiefs by 6, Hurricanes v Blues: Canes by 4, Rebels v Lions: Rebels by 8, Sharks v Jaguares: Sharks by 11, Bulls v Highlanders: Landers by 7

Team lists for the weekend courtesy of ESPN here

SUPER W WEEK FOUR

Zahara Temara

Zahara Temara

The biggest game of the season is on us, with the finalists the last two seasons going at it again in what will more than likely decide who goes through to the Final and hosts it. Coming off an astonishing 104-3 win over the Rebels, Queensland will be looking to take their first win over NSW and put themselves in the box seat.

In what will likely be the best game of rugby played on Australian shores this weekend, the two teams will match up on Saturday afternoon (3pm AEST) at Ballymore, and the Reds are looking forward to the home field advantage this time around. Vice Captain Kiri Lingman told Emma Greenwood from Rugby.com.au, “We’ve spent a lot of time playing them in NSW, so it’ll be good to see how we go with our families here and our home ground at Ballymore, it’s our favourite place to play.”

Despite the massive win last week, coach Moana Virtue has made five changes to the starting 15, including the return of Lingman to lock from injury. Lavinia Gould moves to 7 from the centres to allow the debut of UQ player Haj Moseby. In the halves, Ayane Hirata gets the start over Cobie-Jane Morgan, who drops to the bench. Bree-Anna Cheatham and Sarah Riordan come onto the bench, with Riordan returning after missing all of 2019 through injury.

NSW have also been busy making a few changes to the starting pack, with Wallaroo Emily Chancellor coming into the backrow along with prop Oneata Schwalger and lock Noella Green.

In all seriousness, watch it if you can. Streaming on Rugby.com.ay at 3pm AEST.

The other match this week sees Rugby WA hosting the Melbourne Rebels. Both sides have been on the wrong end of cricket scores from the Reds the last two weeks so will be looking to make amends. Melbourne especially will be hurting after last week where Queensland simply ran rings around them. It was somewhat disappointing for a side that had been the real improvers to go backwards like that and hopefully this should be a good contest.

 

SIX NATIONS BACK

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Despite the Covid-19 outbreak in Northern Italy, the heartland of the sport in that country, it looks like all games in the Six Nations will go ahead, with the exception of Ireland v Italy. After the last round of games France have established themselves as the front runners, with England and Ireland close behind.

This week should see that pack stay close to each other, the French travelling to Scotland and England meeting Wales at Twickenham. Once the Irish play Italy you imagine they will pick up that win to keep them close. The game in England looks to be the best of the two, with the usual rivalries playing their part. Wales haven’t quite hit their straps under new coach Wayne Pivac while England have played well without excelling after their first up loss to France.

The Welsh aren’t going to go down without a fight though, with back-rower Ross Moriarty telling the BBC, “Getting stuck into people physically is my bread and butter so I’ll definitely be trying to do that from the start. We know if you don’t match England physically you’ve got no chance, especially in their backyard.”

With Wales having not beaten England at Twickenham in the Six Nations since 2012, there will be a lot to prove for the Welsh and for the English, their realistic chances of Six Nations success ride on this game.

Up in Scotland, the French team will be looking to get one win away from the title and the Grand Slam as they take on a Scottish team who it must be said have been a bit unlucky to only win against Italy.

Next weeks games also look to be in some jeopardy, with the BBC suggesting the English game in Italy, currently slated to be played behind closed doors will be postponed. This potentially means that depending on the French results, the title may not be decided for months.

Tips: England v Wales (Sun 0245 AEDT)- England by 9, Scotland v France (Mon 0100 AEDT) – France by 6

 

WORLD SEVENS SERIES MEN IN CANADA

Maurice Longbottom

Maurice Longbottom

The Mens Sevens Series moves north after last weeks round in Los Angeles, with the Aussie Men looking to better what was a promising fourth place finish. It was looking pretty good for them until the semi finals when they ran into the Fijians, and then just missed out on the bronze against the Kiwis.

Relative consistency is the key this week with only one change to the 13 man sqaud, with Tim Anstee making a return after nearly 12 months out replacing Angus Bell. Consistency is also the key to the pool stages, with the Aussies facing the three same opponents as last week in Scotland, Samoa and the United States.

Coach Tim Walsh is keen to build on last weeks effort, which is something the Aussie men haven’t really been able to do over the last few years. Too often they have done very well in the pool only to fall over on the second morning. With the Olympics (theoretically) only a few months away this is something Walsh is keen to address, telling Beth Newman from Rugby.com.au, “Much like last weekend we’re looking to go out and make a statement, especially as we draw closer to the Olympics its important to continue to build on strong performances so we can hit the ground running in Tokyo.”

In terms of overall standings, New Zealand and South Africa lead the way by virtue of their consistency, with a gap to a chasing bunch including Fiji, France, England and Australia.

Australia plays it’s pool games on Sunday at (AEDT) 0422 Scotland , 0734 Samoa , and 1046 USA.

Games will be broadcast on FoxSports, and Kayo

 

  • Mortahs Incoming – custardtaht

    Some good games this weekend, so will sit back with a novel, corona and toilet paper and enjoy all the contact on offer.

    After being 0 from 3 on Aus games last week, going with the reverse midas;

    Sun wolves
    Chiefs
    Crusaders

    • Geoffro

      You figure 1 from 3 is better than 0 ? Go Tahs ! and commiseration to the Reds.Sayonara Moondoggies I fear this be the straw that breaks the camels back

      • Mortahs Incoming – custardtaht

        All great journeys start with 1 step, so I will be trending towards greatness….though the great philospher Meatloaf did opine that 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.

        So maybe next week.

  • Howard

    Thanks Ben. Small point: tripple header played at Wollongong

  • AllyOz

    Unfortunately, the Australian (and yes it is Murdoch press I know) are reporting that RA is still yet to received ANY bids for the media package. Apparently Optus haven’t even submitted their bid yet (though they are expected to) and there is a risk it will be a low ball offer, though they are in discussions with media production groups to produce the content.

    RA have had to extend the bidding window for an additional week to try and get some more (ie any) bids. Let’s hope this is a case of News overstating just how bad things are.

    • Happyman

      Mate again RC is smart not playing this out in public. Commercial negotiations are just that. News could be in the mix but are not publicising it.

      On a personal level I hope it goes elsewhere I will cancel my Foxtel and move to a new provider this will hurt during NFL season but I will just have to get the App.

      If I was an Optus/ Ten consortium I would go for a ten year deal paying overs at the start believing you could grow it so the last five years seemed cheap.

      • Who?

        Is RC playing this out in public, or is it that a media partner of a prospective bidder who want to massively cut their costs without losing their assets trying to undermine the process?
        .
        And three games of NFL per week live on 7Mate, too… Maybe that’s not enough (so many teams, there’s plenty who don’t get much coverage), but I’m told NFL Pass is worth it.

        • Happyman

          Mate I believe the ESPN app is also good.

          Point to remember also is that sky sports in the UK show the super rugby and they will not want to lose that content also.

          I must say for all of the doomsayers I actually think RA is doing a good job in this they know whatever happens they need more eyeballs on the games and FTA is part of that solution.

        • Hoss

          G’day Doc. Left-field question. I recall seeing (i think) you referencing VPN’s in a discussion with KARL recently. I have also been told by some about an Amazon ‘Fire Stick’ that can be unlocked (‘jail break’) i could use to access content via streaming services? Do you know about such things ?

          Are such things safe, legal, accessible – its foreign ground to me? It looks likely i will can FUX (that’s actually an email i am desperate to write – it could be my manifesto) and if so what are my options. Do i have to subscribe to X amount of other sites or does the VPN / Fire Stick do that for me ?

          Happy for any appropriate guidance / info.

        • Mortahs Incoming – custardtaht

          When you finger blast fox can you cc on GGR?

        • Hoss

          Work-shopping it now. Got a whiteboard in my office and setting it to Ol Blue Eyes – ‘I did it my way’.

          Stay tuned

        • Mortahs Incoming – custardtaht

          Excellent…..nothing beats a public finger blast

        • Who?

          Have to admit I’ve no knowledge whatsoever about the Fire Stick. My experience is with VPN’s that run their own apps. So, my anti-virus software comes with a ‘free’ VPN (I can make it a ‘real’ VPN – i.e. one with more than 200MB data/month included) at an extra cost.
          .
          Most of the VPN’s will have an app you can download to run on a phone, which you could then cast/screen mirror to your TV? Or run on your computer, or on your router. On your router is notably more complicated, and not necessarily ideal – if you’ve set yourself to be in a RugbyPass friendly country, it may mean the kids suddenly don’t have access to iView, or that you don’t get the shows you expected on Netflix (because their content varies from country to country – it used to be that Mexico was the best Netflix country for kids tv, apparently!).
          .
          But from a quick Google, it appears that Fire Stick has a few VPN’s with their own apps. So then, it’d be a case of joining the VPN, then installing the app on your Fire Stick.
          If using a VPN with an Amazon app, I’m thinking there’s not even a need to jail break the Fire Stick.
          .
          VPN’s are safe (if they weren’t, then those who get up to no good wouldn’t use them – there’s a reason there’s a current Five Eyes security agreement on how to introduce legislation to try and target VPN’s in order to track paedophiles, because plenty of paedophiles use them, as well as streamers/torrenters and, of course, many businesses and people with very valid privacy concerns), and legal (how do you ban the use of a valid business tool?). My only recommendation is to make sure you use a well known provider (such as those on that page).
          .
          And the secondary benefit of a VPN on Fire Stick is that you can change your location to get around geoblocking on other websites (i.e. you could be in the UK, and then use the BBC’s iPlayer, which is free), and to change what you see on Netflix or other streaming services (as the rights they hold vary from location to location – they have a lot more content licensed in the USA than in Australia).
          .
          To set up, you’d need:
          A device (Fire Stick, any phone, a computer…)
          VPN
          Streaming Service.
          .
          That’s one piece of hardware and at least two subscriptions. The VPN being one subscription, then whichever streaming services you want – RugbyPass, Netflix, Disney+ (because our daughters MUST stream Frozen 24/7), Hulu, HBO, CBS All Access (new Star Trek?)….. Those subscriptions can add up pretty quickly, it’s better to work out what you want to watch, binge that, and then go to another streaming service for a bit.
          But, contrastingly, if you’re coming off Fox @ $150/month, for that money, you could probably get your VPN (budget $4/month, 36 months paid in advance), Netflix ($20/4 screens + 4K streaming), Disney+ ($90/12 months, or $9/month), Hulu (Premium, US$12/month, so budget A$18), HBO (Go – US$15, so A$23), CBS All Access (US$10, so A$15), Amazon Prime (think that’s about $8/month), Apple TV+ ($8/month, though I don’t see much great content there), ESPN+ (US$5/month – has a LOT of Rugby), RugbyPass (pricing depends on where it senses you are – if you sign up in Australia, it’s only $50/year, but you only get Pro14/Heineken Cup/Challenge Cup), and other stuff…
          Add Spotify and you’re still under $130/month, but with more content available than Foxtel has broadcast in its entire Australian history. But, importantly, with so much content, as mentioned above, you’re better off turning on and off your providers by the month as they have new content you want. Grab Netflix and watch it until there’s nothing new suggested that the family wants, then turn it off for a while and go to something new. That applies to everything bar perhaps Disney+ (gotta keep the kids happy).
          .
          Is that helpful? Let me know what’s unclear.

        • Hoss

          Brilliant – thank you for the input. Mr’s Hoss was getting ancy when in dumb mans language i tried to explain a VPN ‘tricked’ OS servers to thinking you were located where they are, hence availing yourself of otherwise blocked content. In all of this i think all Mrs Hoss heard was ‘yeah, so you can access more porn’ – to which i was deeply offended, i have enough porn as it is now, thank you very much. Her ears did prick up though when i said it would be considerable cheaper than FUX.

        • Who?

          Glad I could help.
          .
          You’re basically right – a VPN means that you’re connected to an access point at a different geographical location. So, without the VPN, the other machines see your router in your house as the first secure point. With a VPN, the secure point is somewhere else.
          .
          But the value of a VPN is much more wide ranging than Mrs Hoss heard. The issue is always how you sell – and if you can sell that you can get access to her favourite shows more easily and faster, for less money, well…. You’re on a winner.

        • Hoss
        • Yowie

          Can you give me a quote on a consultancy job?

          The Spec is that I want to spend $2000-$3000 of family money we don’t have putting a bigger turbo on my car. Obviously my wife won’t have a bar of that idea at the moment.

        • Who?

          As, a consultancy, I think I’d need to charge about $4k for that sort of high quality spin. :-P

        • Yowie

          FFS, the hypnotist quoted about the same.

        • Who?

          It’s cheaper to fit a bigger turbo than buy the faster spec car. :-P
          How do you sell that you/she needs a faster car..?.
          I’ve got an old car here (hasn’t been on the road in my entire lifetime) where the original purchaser send letters to Main Roads saying, “I like my car, but I can no longer keep up with traffic. Therefore, I need to drop a big engine in it…” He got approval. But the definition of a ‘big engine’ has changed.

        • Yowie

          Before we decided “no more kids” my main argument was that a faster car could get her to the hospital really quickly if she went into some sort of Hollywood-style emergency labour. Now I’m left with talking about emergency trips after bites from the non-existent snakes in our suburb.

          Great work by Old Mate playing that violin to Main Roads. I’ve got mental images of some rusty ancient banger with a drag engine in it now.

        • Who?

          I never managed to get that argument to fly. But after a decade driving a TD 4WD, my wife decided she wanted something small and ‘zippy’… I have real trouble not spinning the fronts everywhere I go. Though we’ve still got the 4WD (gotta tow stuff with it).
          .
          And the ancient banger… No rust!!! Sitting in dry storage. 1955. Ute. But it’s only a ‘quarter tonner’ – so now, where I was allowed 1400cc, I’m allowed 2L turbo. :-)
          And quarter tonner, that means I can move my stuff, but I can’t help people move house. ;-)

        • Yowie

          There is probably a reasonable choice of 2L turbo motors to choose from Re engine bay fit etc.

          Obviously you’ll make no friends in the classic car world having a 1955 ute with a Japanese 2L turbo in it, but needs must.

        • Who?

          I’ve been told by the dating officer for my car club that I won’t be able to get historic rego for that one (I’ve got another car on historic plates right now), but other than that, given it’s not an original car (given the original owner ripped out the original drivetrain over 40 years ago), everyone’s been pretty well onboard.
          .
          I’ve got a Japanese 2L turbo sitting in the tray, I’m just not 100% sure on my capabilities to bolt it in… Wasn’t easy to find the right motor – engine bay’s VERY short. So that changes drivetrain angles, it will require moving the steering rack……
          But if I could then put a fifth wheel on the back, I think it’d be awesome. And about the only way I’d ever maintain any form of traction. :-)

        • Yowie

          What Japanese 2L turbo engine?

          (I don’t claim any skills or expertise for engine swaps – i just watch the youtube videos.)

        • Who?

          EJ20G…
          If you’re watching YouTube for Engine swaps, you should check out Bad Obsession Motorsport’s ‘Project Binky’. It’s awesome.

        • Yowie

          Not what i expected – do you have the available engine bay width for a flat 4?

          I’ve just started (at Episode 30) on Binky and it’s growing on me. Skid Factory is probably my favorite channel.

        • Who?

          You STARTED Binky at Episode 30?! You’ve got hours and hours and hours of fun ahead, watching what they’ve done before that. Their craftsmanship is incredible. Way beyond anything I could do. I started around Episode 6 (but started by going back to Episode 1). The Escargot should be good, and they’ve got a video showing their plans beyond that. Which look awesome.
          I try not to watch too many builders on YT, it’s too unattainable…
          .
          Morris Minors were designed to have a flat four installed, they just didn’t ever get the planned engine installed. Engine bay’s arguably toot tight for even a 4A-GE. But I’ve had the EJ20G sitting in there…….. Stock 240bhp in a sub-800kg package and RWC? Should be nice, and reliable, and cheap to run.
          The car on historic plates is a Mini with a 1275.

        • Yowie

          If you can make it work, a 2L turbo subi engine in a car of that mass would be incredible.

          What gearbox & rest of drivetrain? Has that swap been done before with info available?

          I only gave Binky a look at Ep 30 because of the Turbo Yoda (from Skid Factory) crossover. Lots of people recommend it but I was a bit stubborn. I haven’t watched any game of thrones for similar pig-headed reasons.

        • Who?

          I know there’s an EA82 in a Minor somewhere, and others have done CA18’s, 4A’s, 4K’s, there’s a Buick 3.8 V6, and a 302 in Australia. Overseas, Rover V8’s have been done. But getting engineering approval for anything over 1400cc in Qld was impossible before 2007.
          My Minor had a 1300 Kent engine in it from the original owner. Along with its box, rear axle, front discs… It’s effectively a 74 Escort rebodied into a Minor ute. And, given the original owner owned an engineering shop, it’s all drawn up and done rather well. But a 74 Escort is slow…
          So, effectively, no one else has done an EJ20, to my knowledge. My plan was to weld up the centre diff, disconnect and remove the front diff (it lives in the bell housing), and just do a custom tail shaft. Not sure on the rear axle (something common and inexpensive but strong).
          If I don’t feel crazy ambitious on physically swapping in the EJ20, I may still revert to the Kent 1300. But I’d be keen to add oil squirters to aim at the pistons and then turbo it (the combustion chamber’s completely contained in the piston, so that’s the weak point). It’s been sitting idly for years whilst I pay private school fees for three kids (though not ‘Rugby school’ level fees). :-(
          .
          There’s a reason why Nick and Richard have almost 300k subscribers and over 500k views for almost all their videos (over 1.3M for one).

        • AllyOz

          what if you were say, i don’t know, what if we are eating some of that Japanese fish at home that you have to cut the right way or it kills you and I need to rush to hospital or in the modern context, what if we reach the global warming tipping point and are under threat of being engulfed by a tidal wave and need to head to the blue mountains (which are on fire and we have to drive through them to the snowies, which are also on fire, so that we can reach the middle of Australia, which has become an inland sea, where we need to jump into the motor boat that I have also had to buy with our money and attach to our very faster turbocharged Land Rover Defender (suck on that Hoss)……

        • Yowie

          Logically flawless

        • juswal

          Gregor and Marta Halbenshied, a husband-and-wife couple who run a global consulting firm called EcoEngineering, have been recommending turbo unit upgrades for family passenger cars for many years. Gregor, who’s an ecologist with a background in atmospheric collateral, has run hundreds of NASA-verified computer models showing how expertly tuned high-flow turbos can drastically reduce carbon emissions and fuel consumption, reducing running costs to a level that will balance the hardware investment within a reasonable timeframe. Marta, an auto engineer who consults for BMW and Volvo, is working a documentary for Netflix (with Jason Momoa narrating) featuring research that foregrounds throttle response and optimised torque delivery as key features in family car safety, in an increasingly randomised road environment. Together, they argue that a turbo unit upgrade is the single most effective and affordable thing we can do to make our cars better for the environment, cheaper to run and safer for the family. They say we really owe it to ourselves, and to the planet.

        • Yowie

          Gold. Can’t argue with climate science like that.

        • AllyOz

          That’s cool but for some reason I find Jason Momoa an interesting choice as narrator…that whole Game Of Thrones thing I guess. Obviously David Attenborough was busy that day.

          It would be worth finding out more about.

        • AllyOz

          The young bloke who technically works for me (he more or less runs the show and I sit here typing shit) tells me you can get away with anything if you just laugh and smile when you say some. I have seen him do it with our bosses and clients and most of the time it works. I would be keen to see how it went with that particular issue of yours Yowie. Of course, all of those bosses and clients think he’s a smartarse but in a likeable sort of way. I think you could get away with too maybe.

        • Yowie

          Good advice, but it is premised on me being married to someone who isn’t a bit weary of my bullsh!t.

      • AllyOz

        Firstly, just to be clear, I am not a cheer leader for Fox. The best thing for me would be to have it all on FTA as I don’t subscribe to Fox (though I did take Kayo for the RWC). I watcehd the 10 replays on the Saturday morning to get some SR and used to record the weekly highlights package and record that. Ideally, if I lived in a capital city I would just watch the games but we are 300 km from the nearest one. So I love all these ideas about National Competitions and Club competitions and Trans Pacific Games and people paying us shiploads of money to get the tv rights to rugby.

        However, I live in an area that is not particularly strong in rugby and work in a workplace where there is rarely a positive word spoken about rugby. When I go into the pub on a Friday night it’s always on the league or racing or afl, you have to ask if they’ll put the rugby on and very often its only the group of mates I am with, maybe 4-5, that will watch the rugby. That is also the case in most places I go in Brisbane outside of a few almost rugby specific areas. I used to know a lot of leaguies who would turn the game on, they just aren’t interested now (and it’s not because we have stopped attract the Wendell Sailors and others across). I know older blokes in the 60s and 70s who used to watch both games, would certainly never miss a Wallabies test, but now don’t bother that much. I don’t know why its happened. I don’t know who to blame.

        On this site, everyone loves rugby and many would be prepared/have been prepared to pay for it (though it surprises me how many of us (like me) don’t have a subscription. So even on a rugby specific site there are plenty of people who, while they value it, don’t value it enough to pay for it. Or for what people are asking for it. But then in the same breath we expect someone to defy their commercial interests and pay more for a product on what it can make for them, a product that has, by almost all measures, shown a decline in popularity in Australia as an piece of entertainment – crowd numbers at all levels, ratings for almost all categories. Adding the Shute Shield is unlikely to improve that. The ABC (about as much of an antithesis of Murdoch as you can get) reported that the ratings for the weekly SS game had dropped from 40K (2014??) when they were last broadcasting it to 16K per game in 2020 on 7 mate. Super Rugby ratings are 40-60K – maybe 70k for a big local derby. Even Wallabies crowds and ratings have been falling (though I think the RWC ratings were decent – getting towards the 1M). If you are an advertiser what convinces you to put your ad in a Super Rugby game rather than an NRL match?

        I don’t know if RC got it right or not. I think it was probably a brave decision she made, and perhaps she didn’t have another option really. I certainly think she did it in good faith trying to exact the maximum about she could for the game – I am not anti-RC (not on this issue anyway). But I am not confident about the result. I am hopeful (but it is the sort of hopeful I was going into the RWC that, even with all the poor results and preparations that we would somehow gel and get our shit together and make it to the semis). I am hopeful but at the same time I am not very confident at all.

        • Geoffro

          Paying 15 bucks PM for Kayo as a telstra customer which I dont begrudge at all.(cover the subscription on beer cost by not having to go to pub or club for a fix) I find the service great and the only downfall is Telstra’s dodgy NBN which cuts out in thunderstorms

        • AllyOz

          Yes Geoffro and its worth it. But of course I think that because I love rugby and I am on a rugby website talking to people who love rugby as much or more than i do. But the four blokes sitting out in the lunch room at the moment while I type this – the only time they even raised the subject about the game (in a world cup year mind) was to discuss Israel Folau. They show no interest in the week to week games.

        • Hoss

          Then Oz you have grounds to discipline same 4 employees NOW. Fuck a ‘supoort person’ – get in there, rip in and give em a good ol-fashioned spray, a verbal attitude adjustment – take no prisoners. FFS – the worlds gone mad

        • AllyOz

          one of them’s my boss but yet f*&k it – let’s go

        • Hoss

          I’ll start you off.

          ‘Boss we need to talk and i don’t want you to get upset like the arsehole a lot around here reckon you are, not me, but a majority of others……………..

        • Geoffro

          Yeah,I miss the banter after being in a large workplace with more than a few Kiwi colleagues for a long time

        • Hoss

          ‘Kiwi’s’ – ‘work’ – WTF ?………now i know your takin the piss, oh wait – you mean ‘work for the dole’ – my apologies.

        • Geoffro

          Yeah,well, the actual work part in the workplace was fairly optional and you know what artful dodgers our brethren from across the ditch can be-again-apologies

        • Yowie

          Faaark. Imagine how good the All Blacks would be if any of them trained.

        • Reds Revival

          The one big point that rugby has going for it is that advertisers want to reach the leather elbow patch brigade. They don’t watch a lot of TV, so they are hard to advertise to.
          Rugby is one sport that attracts them in good numbers. Hence, why Jaguar, BMW and Land Rover have all been major sponsors of the Wallabies.

        • Hoss

          Mate Jag & Landy sponsor the Wallabies as they (Wallabies) shit themselves on about the same scale and fractionally more often than Tata’s finest. Hence their product looks halfway reasonable next to the Lauda Niva that was the Wallabies 2016 – 2019

        • AllyOz

          I drive a Defender Hoss…that’s nasty…might be true but still

        • Hoss

          Mate, you’ve triggered two red flags now.

          – Live in Qld
          – Drive a Defender

          If there’s a banjo somewhere in your house that will warrant a formal intervention.

        • Who?

          It’s ok Hoss – Ally lives in the Northern Rivers, NSW.
          And no banjo – bagpipes!

        • Hoss

          Delta team, stand down,i repeat stand down.

        • Who?

          I thought the bagpipes might’ve been an even bigger warning sign! :-D

        • AllyOz

          no live in NSW , born in NSW, support Qld because I just want to see them come good and I like what Thorns trying to do.
          I play the Scottish equivalent of the banjo..bagpipes. Please note most banjo jokes are interchangeable with bagpipes.

          Exhibit A:
          Question: How do you know if the floor is level?
          Answer: The banjo/bagpipe player is drooling out of both sides of his mouth.

          Exhibit B:
          Question: What’s the difference between a banjo/bagpipes and trampoline?
          Answer: You take your shoes off to jump on a trampoline.

        • Hoss

          Delta team swarm, swarm.

        • GeorgiaSatellite

          Mate, that’s unfair. To Nivas, I mean. There are plenty of them still motoring along in these parts, especially in the Caucasus Mountains. You can fix them with a paddlepop stick and a piece of chewy. Not sophisticated, uncomortable to watch and be in, perhaps not export quality… OK, I take it back. Your comparison was spot on.

        • Hoss

          And reportedly run on potato vodka too……

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      Not really surprised, I’d expect most or even all of the bids to come in towards the end of the period that RA is accepting bids, perhaps even on the last day. Gives the potential bidders more time to work on their bid and also see what the other parties are doing before they commit themselves.

      • Brisneyland Local

        I dont think it will happen this way. To even down load the EOI / RFT you have to sign an Confidentiality Agreement. At this stage only 2 parties have signed one. Fox Group aint one of them. I really dont think there is going to be a last minute hail Mary. They are extending because they are hoping to convince others to come to the party so they have at least a point of negotiation. If there is only one bidder, RA are in a jam. Me thinks this isnt going to end well.

        • Mortahs Incoming – custardtaht

          I am one of the bidders…..submitted that I will have a team of 6 using Samsung S20 mobiles to live stream on Facebook and Instagram live.
          Said this business model has worked on live streaming movies at the cinemas on older model phones.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Pure gold. Get the boys from The Rugby Report Card to be the commentators. They will work for free beer.

        • AllyOz

          I don’t fancy having to pay the legal bills and, given the vocabulary that I’ve heard you aren’t going to be able to show any games before 9.30pm.

        • Brisneyland Local

          It is online and not free to air so they can be as rude as they like as long as there are the approporaite warnings.

        • AllyOz

          sorry …. it was a joke

        • Yowie

          What gives AllyOz? You come in here making jokes all the time, messing up a serious rugby chat place.

        • AllyOz

          Sometimes they’re not very funny….not Yowie funny. Need that sarcasm font I suppose

        • Yowie

          I had to explain/defend the factual basis of something from yesterday. I don’t think a misread necessarily equals a bad joke. More a symptom of written text being stripped of tone & facial expressions.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yeah worked that out after I responded. Sorry about that. It is Friday and my brain is mush. where is the beer?

        • Yowie

          To be fair to the Rugby Report Card guys’ language, they are dock workers.

          *checks more thoroughly*

          I mean school teachers.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I wish I had had teachers like that!

        • Yowie

          It would be a bit rich getting a detention for swearing though.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Or pretty much anything from those guys.

        • Yowie

          If you win the broadcast rights on that “mobile phone streaming” basis, you could always blackmail RA mid-season by adding those annoying “cartoon effects on people’s faces” apps to the broadcast footage until your demands are met.

          It would be only the second-worst behaviour of a RA broadcast partner during the tenure of a deal.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          So the reality is that there will probably be two bids then?

          I would think that RA wouldn’t have gone to market if they weren’t fairly sure of the bid from Optus or whomever it will be would be more attractive than Fox’s.

          Don’t really see any evidence to suggest it will not end well. Not that there is any evidence it will end well either. I don’t see a story either way.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Reality is this is a pretty small tender. All the players in the market are known to each other. And there will little that is unknown between the parties. They RA will be hoping for 2 bidders, and will be screwed if their arent. You are always hoping for three to four to have to play off against each other in a competitive shoot out via interactive tendering.
          I dont think RA will be this fortunate. The story will come next week when bids close one way or the other.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          But the reality is that even if there is a single bidder then they are still in the same position as they were with Fox. Having a single offer.

        • Brisneyland Local

          true. But there is no competitive tension to drive the price down. Then when there is only one bidder they can bid pretty much what they want. Fox offered $40 mil. If there is no other bidder, Optus can offer $35mil. And RA have to take it,

        • Who?

          Given Harold Mitchell’s being prosecuted for (in an overly simplified manner of stating it) not going to market with the Tennis rights, I think that RA felt they probably needed to go to market to demonstrate that it wasn’t a corrupt process. Then factor in that this rights deal, with reduced content (fewer teams) and broadcast networks dying, and there really wasn’t a choice for them. They needed to go wide.

        • AllyOz

          I think they thought Fox would definitely be in there even though they said they wouldn’t. They were probably counting on a similar play that Fox made with the cricket and Fox originally missed the bid on NRL as well. I think they expected Fox to come in late and attempt to trump everyone else and they might still be right. But they may not be and I guess that is the gamble. If Optus puts in a low offer (people originally talking $20-30 M a year) and Fox doesn’t bid at all and there is no one else coming forward its going to be tough. And they have already committed to buying the SS rights I think – not a big sum but a commitment. I don’t know either but I think we need to at least get what we had to try and continually match player payments to keep some of those big names home and leave enough to develop the game within and outside the traditional areas. And that is where I get worried.

    • Hoss

      I wouldn’t panic (nor believe and Murdoch press). When it comes to negotiations, he who speaks first loses.

      • Damo

        So, there’s not a big stash of dunny rolls at Chez Hoss?

        • Hoss

          Just putting them on Gumtree now at $28.50 per roll.

          I love Capitalism

        • Geoffro

          lol.Dont even think Id want to interact with an idjit who’d ever pay that for a roll except out of curiosity

        • Yowie

          Also, watch out for Gumtree buyers who want to test the toilet roll before they buy. Some are just tyre-kickers who only want to wipe their bums for free.

          (I would say “get a deposit first” but that would confuse the issue)

        • Geoffro

          Geez,you got a million of em mate,ever consider standup for a career change

        • Yowie

          I’m needy for attention, but not that needy. I co-host (and used to be a regular speaker at) an amateur funny night put on by a professional association once a year. That’s pretty satisfying.

          My wife & child might have issues with attempting a more serious career change.

          Edit – cheers for the compliment by the way.

        • Hoss

          It’s the old adage mate ‘don’t ask – don’t get’, there’s one born every day – twice in Qld…….

        • AllyOz

          a higher birth rate or just more stupid people Hoss?

        • Hoss

          There you’re words Oz……

        • Yowie

          There you’re words Oz……

          If both “they’re” and “your” are intentionally misspelled in a comment about stupid people – Golden Irony Award for you sir

          If it’s not deliberate, um….

        • Hoss

          Ov coarse their debilitate, jeez.

    • Huw Tindall

      How would they know? Presumably all parties are NDA’d to the eye balls so this would have to be a leak with legal ramifications if the the person responsible is caught? Extending bids happens all the time as people put in non conforming bids as a stalking horse.

    • Hoss
      • Brisneyland Local

        Dodgeball the gift that keeps on giving!

  • KwAussie Rugby Lover

    Thanks Ben, time for a couple of teams to stand up and prove last week wasn’t a one off. I’m actually hoping the Blues don’t as I want my Canes to win. Chiefs and Highlanders on the rebound could be tough for the Tahs and Bulls and I think the Reds might struggle as well. Hope the Rebels do get this one and it looks as though they’re starting to settle more. I still think half their problem has been the constant shuffling of the team. I’m with your picks although I think Brumbies will win by more perhaps 50+
    Ladies rugby is going well and this will only help them when they name the Wallaroos later in the season.
    Good luck to the men’s 7’s. Had a good tournament last week and hoping they build on that.
    I’m hoping France get both the Grand Slam and the tournament, if nothing more so I can laugh at the shit press they got at the start of the season.

    • Tomthusiasm

      I’m also hoping the Canes can keep their foot on the Blues’ throat, but I admit that I’ve been quite impressed with them lately. They look so much better with Nock at halfback and, while I’m glad Sotutu isn’t playing, Ioane could have a point to prove. I reckon we should just nudge it though.

  • Larry Jorgensen

    Very difficult to stay engaged with Super Rugby when 3 games involving Oz are over by 5:30 pm AWST Friday.

    • Missing Link

      Sounds like the perfect excuse to get on it early and they kick on in Northbridge afterwards..no?

      • Funk

        Definately a perfect excuse for a FDO!!

      • Larry Jorgensen

        Sadly, those days are long gone.

    • Geoffro

      Sad but I highly doubt they’d ever schedule a ten thirty kickoff to satisfy WA supporters.Just avoid spoilers and watch the replays :)

  • Tomthusiasm

    Hoping my Super Rugby tips go better this week. I’ve also been wondering how good would a Trans-Tasman Super W be. The Women could show everyone how Super Rugby should be run with a ten team comp, possibly 11 or 12 with a Pacific Island/Asia team down the track.

    I struggled to get into the 6 Nations, I would like to see France get the Grand Slam though and for Wales to cause a very unlikely upset.

  • laurence king

    News on Fox has it that Gilbert, Luke Jones and Mat Phillip are/have signed with French sides. But never fear, Kurtley is still available to play for the Wallabies because of the Gittoe rule

  • Hannes En Brianda Barnard

    Looking forward to the 7s. Last week’s LA tournament was an absolute cracker especially the final!

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