Down for the count
There’s been a lot of opinion from both sides of the Indian about Matt Giteau’s hit on Fourie Du Preez and why it was not cited.
A GAGR poll found 100% agreeance that Giteau should face the judiciary, however 50% also believed he should then have been let off as it’s his first offence.
The match citing officer, David Gray of New Zealand, found no reason to refer the incident to the judiciary. He’s also offered no explanation to date for this finding, which leaves me to conclude that David Gray condones of this play by Giteau.
South African referee’s boss Andre Watson was also confused by the non-referral.
It looks bad, but it was Giteau’s arm leading the way. I don’t think it should be upgraded to a red card. Giteau’s arm was out and he caught Fourie, who got hurt in the incident.
But, having said that, I can’t understand why Giteau has not been called in for a disciplinary hearing. Then the judicial officer can look at the evidence and decide what action to take, if any. If Giteau is found not guilty in a hearing, then it’s fine. But he should at least have faced a hearing.
Here’s the footage of the Giteau, Brown and Smith seeing yellow on Saturday night, plus a few comments thrown in by Noddy and myself.
Tags: andre watson, david gray, discipline, george smith, judiciary, matt giteau, richard brown, yellow card, youtube
We wont worry too much, wait till schalk “the optician” gets hold of him lol!!!
KIWIBOK
who wants schalk back if you have Brussow?
id much rather brussow over burger. he gives a lot less penalties away and gets alot more ball too
its a real joke that he wasn’t banned. and its not in the wallibies interest either. a disgruntled bok team will act like it did with corne krige as captain circa 2002. (nobody wants to see those teams again)
burger got banned for 4 weeks in the 2007 world cup for a lesser hit than Giteau.
ok I admit I thought there was not that much in Giteau’s effort. So yes a yellow but not more.
As for Brown’s I zwould have been pretty tempted by that ball too – surely he just thought it was out and he could take it. Dumb enough but then again surely made later Bok infringements automatic yellow/red??
Finally yes the bok trainer is a hottie – she also looks like a dwarf when she is treating Bakkies vand Matfield.
If he thought it was out and he could take it then why not pick it up and run towards the tryline?
It was odd. But brainsnaps like that happen.
Giteau on the other hand… I think there is something up with him at the moment – he;s not playing like himself and I’ve NEVER seen him do anything like that.
Its called pressure and the boks play a game that can frustrate its opposition into making lots of errors.
its not the fact that giteau should of got a more than a yellow its the fact that the thought of a hearing was never even considered. surely he should of at least been reviewed.
as for the Brown incident its purely because of the previous warnings against the wallabies hence the boks not getting carded.
giteau is one of the cleanest players in world rugby. he is only ever penalised on the extremely rare occasion and this is the first time i have ever seen him sin binned. it is evident he did not intend to hurt fourie because he checked if he was okay after the incident. get over it – its time to move on.
time to move on? because he checked to see if the player was ok? Thats a joke. it all boils down to consistancy in the citing process. He should have at the very least appeared before the committee.
I agree that Giteau is a well meaning player, however the act should have been cited then his good record could be taken into account at the hearing.
it is this persona of giteau being the cleanest player that gave giteau the get out of jail free card.just because giteau fained some interest in his well being doesn’t mean it was unintentional. i mean anyone can pretend to care.
please use non bias judgement. think about how different the reaction it would have been had the offender been fourie against flooring giteau. brain snaps happen dont make excuses for the players no-ones perfect. the main arguement in the article isnt about giteau anyway its about consistency of refereeing and judical systems.
if u can honestly say it would of been the same result had it been a bok u are sadly mistaken.
It’s not just this game, but disrupting the half back at the ruck is total fucking crapshoot with refs.
In this same game the ref swings from pinging the half-back for a knock on, to outright binning Smith. And it isn’t just this clown, but almost every friggen game.
The “I just might get away with it” factor from this inconsistency is just too tempting for any forward within arms distance of a 9.
I understood that the IRB strengthened the protection of halfbacks in a recent round of law interpretations that they sent out. Haven’t got the link, though.
Dumb yellow cards to one side, has anyone noticed the Bok’s physio (@~54 seconds). Physios didn’t look like that when I played…..
No, we had zambucks {St John ambulance volunteers) who would just about claw your eye out when trying to wipe some mud from it. As for any other injuries, you just had to suffer until you got to the hospital emergency department.
Indeed! I wonder how mmany inner thigh injuries have occured since she got the job
I’ve got cramp.. little higher… little higher, little higher, ahhhh
brown i have sympathy for. He probably thought it was legit, as he was the tackler, he just didn’t realise that a ruck had formed while his head had been in the grass.
Giteau was going pretty fast and might have been looking at him because he knew he was about to hit him and wasn’t able to stop. Then again it does look pretty retarded and i am uncertain how I would react if the jerseys were swapped. Yellow seems fair.
I think Gitaue can consider himself quite lucky because other refs might have sent him off and other citing officials may have made him appear in a hearing.
In think yellow was the correct call but I agree with Watson, he should have faced a hearing for this reckless act, no matter how innocent you’ve been until now.
If you never speed, ever. But then one day drive under the influece and drive recklessly, you will still face quite serious consequences or at least have to explain yourself in a hearing.
Yeah, it wasn’t malicious, but it was extremely reckless and dangerous, and he should have been cited. But I also tend to think that he probably would have successfully defended himself at a hearing, because he bloody nearly spear tackled himself in the process.
3 yellows in one game, that wasn’t expected from a quality wallaby team like this.
No need for a citing though on Gits. Yellow was fair enough. This isn’t soccer, its rugby.
Gits has to be one of the cleanest players in the game. It would have been a different story if it was one of the pacific 3… Tongan, Samoan or Fijian.
Those guys are known for their tackles, bone crunching and always have been put on report if it gets a little above the shoulder and late in some instances.
But am hoping Gits dose not do a Fourie Du preez on DC in Sydney.
I’m lucky enough to play for a team that has a trainer who DOES look like the Bok one, and let me tell you, injuries have tripled since last year. At least. Terrible for training….
I totally agree with Sweet Az, all these yellows, except maybe the Gits one, were the results of a bok team squeezing the Wallabies into frustrated mistakes. Smith and Brown were both clearly furious they couldn’t do much at the breakdowns. Hell I was frustrated enough just watching. Don’t know about Gits though. Just a complete brain explosion.
Marto’s explanation on tonight’s Rugby Club, apparently he’s spoken to Giteau
As he threaded his way through traffic he lost sight of the ball while stepping the (offside) De Villiers, then watched Du Preez to read his eyes as to where the ball was
which still really explain the flying elbow….just why he mistimed it….
i just one thing with that story. how was de villiers offside? it was a wallabies kick. and why would giteau jump if he didnt know where the ball was?
i have played fullback for over 3 years and i can safely say i have never jumped for the ball that i didnt know when it was coming. it takes a second to look up how long does it take to read someones eyes?
Definitely looks reckless, but it was dealt with on the field so I don’t see the need for any additional punishment.
If only someone can do that to Bakkies and give him some of that justice he’s been after.
Sagerian, that person must still be born.
Bakkies gives 110% every game and thats what makes him good. No softcocks there hey!!