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Ireland prove their class with 2nd test win

Ireland prove their class with 2nd test win

With the Wallabies in somewhat uncharted territory of having been impressive in their first game of the domestic series, they entered match 2 with a rare opportunity to run with the same team as the previous week. The Irish, however, made plenty of changes. Some through injury, some through form but most by the seemingly planned return of rest stars. With another week of preparation for both teams how would this crucial Melbourne encounter play out?

The Match

The first half

With tries so hard to come by last week in Brisbane, fans were in a somewhat state of shock as the Aussies crossed the line in the second minute of the match. Following a fluffed kick-off take by the visitors, Australia secured ball from the lineout and proceeded to batter away at the Irish defense. Stretching the defense out-wide, followed by a strong Caleb Timu charge, the Irish were under pressure before Foley drifted wide and brought Kurtley Beale inside of him. Beale saw space, and with some quick feet, was away almost untouched under the posts. 7-0 Aussies.

Once the Irish finally got their hand on the ball it wouldn’t take long for them to prove a lot more effective in attack than last week. Whether it was down to Johnny Sexton’s inclusion, or the less confrontational Wallaby tackling, the Irish were making ground. A dangerous lifting tackle by Marika Koroibete saw him yellow carded and the Aussies under pressure. The resultant lineout had the Irish rolling it left to open up a big blind, where Conor Murray took advantage of Korobiete’s absence and threw a wide pass for Andrew Conway to score in the corner. 7-All.

Ill-discipline was hurting the Wallabies and Sexton’s kicking was making them pay. Three kicked penalties took the lead out to 16-7 to the visitors and the match was starting to slip from Australia’s grasp. 7-16 Ireland.

Ironically it would take another Yellow Card to turn the match. This time, following Australia’s first penalty of the match in the 25th minute, they set up a rolling maul from the lineout. With a try imminent, Cian Healy was deemed to have brought the maul down drawing not only 10 minutes in the bin, but also a Penalty Try. 14-16 Ireland.

The Irish were definitely the team in control as the Aussies struggled with their composure, as they were absolutely battered at the ruck. After some pushed passes half time came at the perfect time as the Aussies were again under pressure.

Lansdowne Trophy

Lansdowne Cup

The second half

Michael Cheika showed his dissatisfaction with the Wallaby performance in the first stanza by pulling test rookies Caleb Timu, who had given away a number of penalties, and Brando Paenga-Amosa. With Adam Coleman copping head knock, from friendly fire, soon after the home team’s combination was sure to be tested.

While the Aussies battled to work out their combinations, the Irish continued to dominate across the field and looked to be across in the corner when winger Keith Earls barged through a Israel Folau tackle. He was ruled to have dropped the pill however the ref had been playing advantage and ruled an Irish penalty. The same result came soon after when the big fellah Tadhg Furlong would not be denied and scored a strong try over the top of replacement scrumhalf Nick Phipps. 14-23 Ireland.

Ireland’s dominance continued and the Aussies were almost completely shut out of the game. Any advantage we did gain was soon nullified by poor execution or, more readily, excellent work by the Irish at the breakdown. Another penalty from another strong ruck play stretched the visitor’s lead even further. 14-26 Ireland.

It wasn’t until the last four minutes did the Wallabies gain back some ascendancy and, once again, it took another Yellow Card to do so. This time it was reserve prop Jack McGrath who was caught playing the ball on the ground and he was ordered to leave the field. The Aussies did their best to deny themselves the try, but it was left to the rookie Taniela Tupou to power over from close to bring the lead to less than a converted try. 21-26 Ireland.

From a deep kick off the Aussies controlled play handily and worked their way up the field and gave hope to fans that we could perhaps pull off a late, albeit undeserved victory. As it was we got what we deserved, with a knock on ruled at the ruck, full-time called and the Irish claimed an impressive win.

In the end it seemed odd that the Aussies were as close as they were in this match such was the control the Irish seemed to have over them. As it was the teams move to Sydney for the series decided with both teams expected to have injury impacted build-ups to decide who takes home the Lansdowne Cup.


The Game Changer

I tempted to say the Beale try but will give the Aussies the benefit of the doubt as to whether they clocked off. But the match definitely changed on the back of the Koroibete Yellow Card. In reality though, it was the ruck strategy developed by the Irish during the week and implemented during the game that proved crucial.

The G&GR MOTM

Tadhg Furlong and Johnny Sexton were both hugely impactful on their return to the starting side but I thought the work of Peter O’Mahony was outstanding and he dominated the breakdown against the Pooper.

Wallaby watch

Unfortunately Timu and BPA will be under pressure to retain their starting spots, particularly with Tolu Latu proving effective off the bench. Tupou was also a handful when he replaced Kepu. As for the starters Pocock worked hard and Dane Haylett-Petty was a class act always out wide (and in the air).


The Details

Crowd: 29,000 ish

Score & Scorers

Australia:21
Tries: Kurtley Beale, Taniela Tupou
Conversions: Bernard Foley 2
Penalty try: 1
Ireland: 26
Tries: Andrew Conway, Tadhg Furlong
Conversions: Johnny Sexton 2
Penalties: Johnny Sexton 4

Cards

Yellow Cards: Marika Koroibete (Australia); Cian Healy (Ireland); Jack McGrath (Ireland)

 

  • Archie

    Thought the rub of the green really went in Australia’s favour tonight. Constant infringing in the red zone… no yellow. Hooper’s slap down when Ireland had an overlap… no yellow. Ireland played well and were by far the better team. With their first string team they really are a different proposition. Sets up a great decider.

    • nameface

      Hmm I’m not so sure. O’Mahony consistently off his feet at the breakdown, forearms on floor when winning the penalties. Blocking runners on their backline plays and whenever Folau went up for the ball that weren’t called. Last breakdown wasn’t a knock on etc. But I take the fact that oz got lucky on some – officiating in world rugby as a whole is a really big problem at the moment.

      • Archie

        On a related note… what the #### is wrong with Chieka. He literally had a whinge at every decision even if it is clear as day. Even the Hooper slap down (which went in his favour given it was no yellow)… he’s got both hands in the air and that slapped ass look like he’s just been cheated out of something?!

        • Adrian

          Just Cheika being Cheika

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yep and that is the problem! ;-)

        • Who?

          To be fair, on Channel 10 afterwards, he very clearly said, “We’ve got to stop the soft penalties. Like the knock downs. In those situations, we’ve got to be more disciplined and take the man, not worry about the pass.”
          He actually did quite well on Channel 10 after a loss – I’m not his biggest fan in general, but he deserves some respect for the composure and dignity with which he carried himself. :-)

        • Andy

          Agree. How’s it any different to Schmidt after the first test?

        • Who?

          One’s known as a saint, the other is a very well known sinner. ;-P

        • Every coach, almost every coach, moans occasionally about the referee. I know Ireland have had a good run in Europe recently so Schmidt hasn’t had a lot to whinge about, but he didn’t have a reputation for doing it at Leinster either. So when he sounds off… people still think it’s out of order, but give him a “well he’s annoyed, his team have just lost and…” excuse because it’s rare. With Cheika, honestly I’ve given up watching the post-match interviews because he certainly went through a phase of blowing up at the ref’s decisions in every match. He’s lost that benefit of the doubt. Steve Diamond in the Aviva is in the same boat, while Dean Richards and Rob Baxter seem to be in the Schmidt boat – if they complain even if you support their opponents you question whether the ref has had a bit of a shocker.

        • Andy

          From what I have seen there isn’t an international coach around that isn’t a sook after they’ve lost. Cheika has a way about him that rubs a lot of people the wrong way but i thought his press conference was pretty tame. Far more tame than Schmidt’s after game 1.

        • Who?

          Cheika’s interview on 10 was before the official press conference, and Cheika’s got a history of being a bit explosive. With broken doors and the like in his history. Hence the pun – we’re talking about St Joe, and Cheik the powder keg. I just thought it was a nice little bit of growth from him…

        • juswal

          GAGR admin, can you please get rid of this kiwi troll? He’s called Pocock a constant cheat and now he’s bleating about Cheika’s facial expressions. Since he’s only posting negativity, we’re better off without him.

      • Richard Patterson

        Or is it in this era of social media that rugby fans expect perfection from officials? Feels a steep level of expectation.

        • Archie

          They do when the ABs are involved… (or it’s apparently clear ‘bias’)… so why not in other games

        • nameface

          I think people are torn between that and a nostalgia for the good old days of rough and tumble. So we go through the minutiae of every ruling but complain when they then obsess over a marginal high tackle

        • Richard Patterson

          I think you are 100% correct. Sports globally are battling with the same issues — rugby is no different.

          Each sport’s governing body state categorically that Player Welfare is extremely important – no argument, no debate. But they also don’t want games unduly influenced by officials who officiate by the rules handed down to them by the governing body. They have created new rules — but still want the sport played the way it always was. It is impossible.
          Look at the battle the NFL is having with head injuries / player safety — but still retaining the violence the fans love.
          Ditto NHL.
          Ditto AFL.
          Look at the battle the NRL are having policing the play-the-ball and the 10m defensive gap — but also keeping the game fluid.

          Officlals all around the world now are fortunate. They take all the controversy out by stating to the guilty player “you leave me no choice but to….”. (code for “I didn’t make the rules pal, my job is to enforce them”).

          Somehow fans though want perfection.

        • Gun

          The thing about NFL and AFL is that they are centrally controlled and that makes the application of common regulations by game officials better (and their referees have been centrally coached and have been professional longer).
          Union’s referees are disparate in their geography, control and application and that makes it fucking frustrating.

        • Richard Patterson

          Vaiid points Gun. Are AFL officials full-time paid professionals or is officiating a part-time gig in winter? NFL referees are not full-time and hence they walk into similar issues regarding the interpretation of topical rules regarding pass interference, holding, illegal use of the helmet etc. which differ from crew to crew. God, the NFL still can’t definitely decide what constitutes a fair catch!
          I know rugby referees in NZ are all involved in collective weekly review sessions through Super Rugby season where performances are discussed and analysed. I would hope Angus Gardner is looped into that as well. Doubtful that is shared with officials from the NH or SA.

        • Gun

          Not sure Richard, part time I think.

        • Who?

          Or an aerial contest. :-P
          Note on that (referencing the AB’s game) – such a harsh call, but correct in the context of the guidelines set by WR in the interest of player welfare, and consistent with rulings over the past 2 years. But that doesn’t make it fun to watch, and I’m sure it wasn’t fun to hand out that RC, either.

      • mikado

        I think the standard of officiating is better than it has ever been. The fitness of match officials, their communication with players and consistency around the world is outstanding. TMOs eliminate the worst of the human errors. Whether or not the laws are suitable (or suitably interpreted) is another question.

    • Greg

      Let’s not open the discussion immediately on the ref!! Please.

      Let’s talk about the game.

      • juswal

        Don’t take Archie seriously, Greg. He’s pushing a theory that Test referees go easy on Australia and are harsh on NZ.

        On a night when his team won a Test and secured a series, he wasn’t celebrating. Instead, he sweated over the ref’s performance in Australia’s loss and rushed to an Australian blog to whine about it.

    • Who?

      Oh the irony that last week Murray got pinged for dissent for exactly the same infringement as McGrath’s YC when Tolu Latu did exactly the same thing as McGrath did… Pretty well the same point on the field and TV, too!
      And four penalties inside the 5m line by the Wallabies after their first warning, and a second warning, and no YC’s for repeat infringements. Truly bizarre.
      In terms of the breakdown, clearly both teams were looking to find the balance on contesting. Ireland held up players for seconds after the technical formation of a maul on a number of occasions, but he didn’t seem to believe in general play mauls. Even the lineout mauls, they were a bit of a lottery.
      But the difference was just the discipline in the Irish attacking breakdown. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen such a consistent and accurate cleanout. Furlong was the official MOTM (I’ve never before seen a THP top the run metres), and the moment that secured that in my mind wasn’t his big run in the first half, or the try. It was at 41 minutes, when Ireland had a break out wide, Pocock was the first arriving player at the breakdown and Furlong creamed him. You don’t expect a flying THP to be the first cleanout player in the tram tracks on a break. But it was that sort of commitment across the entire pack that got Ireland home tonight.
      That was actually a great result for RA tonight. Maybe not the Wallabies, but RA. A tight, contested and high quality series, going into a sold out deciding game, with a fantastic touring nation (the singing at Suncorp was great, but tonight was up another level), what more could RA want to improve the profile of the game?!

  • Greg

    Reg, Thanks for the very quick write-up.

    Ireland definitely lifted a level and I thought Australia dropped a bit. We didn’t see a lot of Folau and Beale was subbed earlyish. Very good work by green at the breakdown compared to last week though Pocock and some of the other forwards still secured some good turnovers.

    We still tried quite a few midfield kicks and a lot seemed to be about the right length but the chasers were missing this week. I need to look at the replay to see why. Not sure whether we were blocked in traffic, just not chasing or the chasers weren’t ready for the kick.

    The green forward that got an early shower was a bit unlucky to be identified. With 47 camera angles he must have been hoping he had a generic face :-)

    Anyway @KRL your wish came true and we will have a decider in the 3rd match. I am expecting it to be tight.

    • Moose

      Yeah, there was a great shot of McGrath’s face when he got pinged :)

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Not really a wish more a sort of would like it but now wished it wasn’t.
      I must admit I was disappointed by a few players last night. Watching the replay this morning I felt the team was a bit disjointed and didn’t really seem to have a good plan. The kicks for Folau weren’t good, but in saying that he didn’t seem that interested in trying hard to get to them either. I agree with BL in that Beale looked to be nursing an injury because he seemed to struggle to get into position in either attack or defence.

  • Adrian

    Thanks Reg

    We were a bit worse and they were a fair bit better.

    Our disclipine poor, their goal kicking good.

    Our D not so good, our A was flustered.

    Our kicking worse, theirs better

    They really rushed us, and we lost a little bit of composure.

    But,…we got within 5, and scored more tries.

    Will be a different team next week, without Genia, and maybe Coleman, Korebette (suspension?), Beale (groin?)

    Subs Tui, Phipps, Hodge did ok

    IMO no shockers

    • Who?

      I’d be shocked if Koroibete copped even a citing for that. It was a fair YC (and pointless – he had no need to lift and drive), but nothing more.
      Hey, if it’s ok to shoulder charge someone’s face, he’ll be fine! :-P
      Irish attacking ruck accuracy, consistency and security really was key. They left no room for turnovers. And in defence they picked their moments very well, fanning out more often than not and only contesting when there was a real chance.
      Who do you think comes in to replace Genia, maybe Coleman, maybe Beale..? Given both Beale and Genia were off, I thought the Wallabies did really well to push as hard as they did at the end.

      • Adrian

        I’d be disappointed if Korebette was suspended too, but I just mentioned it as a possiblity…..given how suspension happy officials seem to be. If he is suspended I’d go for Naivalu.

        For Genia I’d have Phipps who I thought was energetic and solid. I guess that means squad member Powell on the bench, but I would prefer Gordon If Beale is out I’d have Duncan P, as he is the nearest thing for the flat backline style ala Tahs, which can crack the Irish defence,… even though it only did once.

        For Coleman I’d use Arnold or Tui, and leave Simmons on the bench.

        Another site says Pocock might be a concussion risk too. If so I’d use Samu

        Something to be said for BPA throwing to Rodda and Tui, and Latu throwing to Simmons. Same goes for keeping them with their regular props.

        Nonetheless I might like Tuopo, Latu, Tui, Rodda starting, much as I love Kepu

        • Who?

          Koro just can’t be suspended for that… I mean, it was stupid, but surely! :-D
          Phipps was energetic, but he wasn’t solid. It’s amazing to see how he practices so hard in the warm up to move the ball quickly, but you still often see a swirl of arms before it’s released.
          Duncan Paia’aua… I’m not sure. Beale’s greatest asset is his pace. His pace and his boot. Duncan isn’t, from what I’ve watched over the years, anywhere near as dynamic. With Samu playing 12 for the Reds a lot this year, maybe it’s time to try him there again, and ask Foley to direct a bit more? Then you could consider Kuridrani or Rona to 13? I wouldn’t call in Hodge – he’s very quick with ball in hand (watching him warm up last week, he looks like a sprinter with shoulders, or a male model! Seriously skinny but muscular legs, big shoulders under the jacket), but he just doesn’t feel as dynamic to me, doesn’t threaten with a short pass or offload as much as Beale and Kerevi.
          If you were to call in Arnold or Tui, that’s a LOT of responsibility on Rodda’s shoulders. Because neither Rory nor Lukhan call the lineout. I get where you’re going with that selection, just not sure..?
          Agree on Samu if not Pocock. He’s played well so far, and whilst he’s not Pocock’s equal at the breakdown (not sure anyone is), Ireland have improved their strategies in security. So it’s time to target another sector of the game.
          Tupou and Kepu… Along with Furlong, we’re just lucky to watch three of the best Tight Heads I’ve ever seen in this series. Can dominate a scrum, but also brilliant around the field.

        • onlinesideline

          why does Phipps look to struggle so much when hes trying to get his hands on the ball at the base. Genia seems to get in there more, even plant his foot almost in the ruck to tell the opposition, Im here and fuke off – dunnknow.

        • He runs slower and he seems to need to take an extra step to pass. Even if he just takes an extra 0.2 second to get there that’s time for the ruck to change shape, defensive lines to be different and set and all the rest. When he passes it’s that fraction slower as well. I think that’s all it is… the opposition have changed the shape of the ruck enough that it’s harder to get to the ball cleanly, but he might be a bit more precious about his hands too.

          I think Smith is a better 9 than Genia all round, but Faf de Klerk is in the running for best in the world this year, at least so far.

        • Parker

          Faf has been fantastic and the Boks are looking really formidable. I reckon on current form they could beat the ABs.

        • I’m not sure. I don’t know why, but the French are always a bit of bogey team for the ABs. Seeing the AIBs struggle isn’t really a surprise. I do agree the Boks are looking really sharp though. Good enough to beat the ABs? That’s a big step up from beating England. But for the first time in a few years it wouldn’t be a shock if the ABs don’t win the RC with a blackwash.

        • fatman

          I thought France were the better team & had they had their full compilment may have beaten the All Blacks.

        • That’s fair enough.

          I thought the All Blacks took a definite dip with the departure of Barrett plus the French pulled together – I don’t think they felt harshly done to particularly, everyone on the field looked at the replays and said “red card” in whatever language I’m sure – but they played a smart 14 man game.

          Without the Fall clumsiness, and it really doesn’t look anything more than that, Barrett stays, the AB back line plays at closer to full effect and the French play without siege mentality. That’s a lot of things to juggle. But if, somehow, MacKenzie had started, or replaced Barrett at the same time and Fall had stayed on the park, it would certainly have been a lot closer and it’s possible the French could have won.

        • Tony Dun

          I wouldn’t have Phipps at all. his right to left pass is a disgrace and our attack is continually disrupted by players having to wait or reach up to catch it. He’s a great player but that one part of his game lets the team down very badly.

        • Garry

          And with an eye to the RWC (as the Irish are doing), why aren’t we blooding a new half back? Damn Cheika and his blue-eye. Injuries will happen, and Cheika will be complaining about his lack of options. Sportsbet, what’s the odds on that one?

        • disqus_NMXfOrw5ot

          Summer fruit? Is that a euphemism for those Hungarian girls?

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          There’s no point in the halfback clearing the ball quickly if the receiver has to stop, jump or struggle to catch the ball. Immediately it slowed the attack down. I didn’t notice it so much in the first half but after Phipps got tired in the second it was plain as day.

          Also, isn’t he meant to be there for his running game? I didn’t see him snipe once.

        • onlinesideline

          what amazes me is that so often he does it twice in a row ie in the next phase. You’d think ……..

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Phipps always does his best and gives 100%. He clearly loves the Wallabies and has all the passion in the world.

          It is just what we get with him. He does his best and this is what it is.

        • onlinesideline

          for sure but does he give more than he doesnt give ? – to phrase it badly. He cant box kick well, he rarely snips, he telegraphs quite a bit in my opinion, he passes badly at times, he is not a calming influence on the players, he doesnt vary his decision making and keep the opposition guessing, he doesnt vary his speed of play…. surely there is a half back with a bit more steadfastness and presence out there somewhere.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I agree. I wouldn’t have Phipps as backup halfback.

    • Got to say I agree with your analysis. If the Wobs play to the top of their potential they’re really good. If they slip off that, they start to look a bit ordinary again. Ireland improved a lot, in most parts of the game and it showed.

      At the point in about minute 12 where there was a scrum penalty against them and Hooper was standing there, looking at the referee radiating “WTF?!?” I was sure the Irish were going to win – it seemed like a step back to last year. I have no idea if if was the right call or not, it was the far side of the scrum to the TV coverage and we didn’t get an angle from that side. But it was right in front of the referee and even if it was wrong he wasn’t going to change his mind. But standing there like that is never going to help the situation, and is only likely to make the referee slant against Hooper in the 50-50 calls.

      Korobette shouldn’t get suspended btw. He needs to have committed a red card offence to be cited and up before the disciplinary committee. Pocock might be on the list after that line out too. It was perfectly legal, but someone landed on his head and neck as they came down.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Yeah but are you going to tire the Irish first or your own players? TBH mate I didn’t see anything on that game that makes me think the Wallabies are so much more fit than the Irish that they can do that. I don’t think Koebette will be suspended but his general play was pretty crap so I’d look at other options anyway,

    • McWarren

      Tire the Irish? This ain’t the 70’s or 80’s mate, they are as fit or fitter than us.

  • Richard Patterson

    Thank you for the prompt review Reg. A very enthralling test match – well played to both sides for the physicality and work around the ball.

    I feel Ireland reminded the world tonight of how to beat this Wallaby side although losing Genia was a harsh setback for Australia.

    Ireland made their changes after their 1st test loss, I sense the Wallabies will need to make theirs this week. It makes for an excellent 3rd test in Sydney and a terrific advertisement for rugby in Australia.

    • Steve

      Again was ultimate weakness at the ruck that cost us, it looked very familiar to when the All Blacks get rolling against us as well.

      Again it makes us realise that only Pocock really stands up in the case of a proper onslaught, as the rest of the forwards fall away.

      Really don’t know when we will find other forwards who will really perform, but the Wallabies will remain below the very best in the world until we do.

  • Bobas

    Well it took longer than a game to remember that the ability to run an unders line is important to a back line, especially one playing with only 2 back replacements. Wasn’t until Taniela Toupo started running them that options started opening up…
    As much as it shouldn’t be said, QC would have won that game behind that forward pack. How many cross field kicks do Beale and Foley have to practise. Seriously, play smarter not harder. Arrgh, I reckon I could have done better!

    • Adrian

      It’s funny, but those cross field kicks certainly were bad,…worse than last week, and not chased like last week. Last week they were criticized, but we’re in fact better than usual by a long way. They don’t get as much pressure playing SR, so need to practice under pressure,…and do it a bit less.

      Reliving kicks shit me. Should give them to DHP, though I realise this can’t always be planned when a Mescherschmit is up your arse

      • Who?

        Now, this might be out of character for me, but…
        Foley did have one cracker of a clearance. In his own in goal out to the 10m line.
        I agree, I’d have DHP/Beale/Hodge taking them (depending on who’s on the field at the time), but Foley did at least give one a good nudge tonight.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          He did have one fantastic one.

          One.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          He had one last week too. That’s almost more frustrating than none because at least with none you know it’ll never happen but now it’s “why can’t he do it more often?”

        • Brisneyland Local

          Remember Hoss’s saying about one Swallow doesnt make a summer! Something something relationship! ;-)

        • Keith Butler

          He also threw a cracker of a pass to Hopper who collected Ball and three Irishmen a millisecond later.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Just watched the replay and actually Foley had 3 or 4 good kicks from the penalty going for ground. I think it must be the pressure the opposition puts on him that causes poor tactical kicks. he really was off target with Folau, mind you I thought Folau had one of his lazy games where the ball didn’t come to him so he didn’t look for it. I thought he was pretty poor actually in this game.

        • Brumby Runner

          On a couple of occasions he actually looked quite disinterested in the proceedings.

    • Garry

      QC, just stay uninjured and fit. Injuries will happen, and Chieka will be unprepared.

      • cantab

        QC has missed most of the Brisbane club rugby season with various injuries, currently out with a MCL knee injury.

    • Tim

      The real problem was not competing at the breakdown. If you chose to kick the ball away the only way you can get it back is competing at the breakdown. Very disappointing the wallabies just watched most of the game instead of actually playing it. Phipps passes didn’t help always above the player requiring them to stop running to catch it. The real worrying sign was that Ireland had rush defense all day and didn’t bother doing a chip kick over it. Shows that we don’t have anyone smart on the field to change a plan of attack.

  • Keith Butler

    Fortunately I was at the game and had a great time. Ireland greatly improved over last week while the Aussies went into reverse. Setting up for a great finale in Sydney. After his efforts on Foxtel last week I wonder what Mr Kearns made of the game. Probably had steam coming out of his ears at the injustice dished out.

    • Adrian

      Ears?

    • onlinesideline

      He really offers nothing as commentator. Why dont they put in a professional commentator to accompamy Greg Clarke who is great. Their job is to articluate whats happening in the game and do it with some flair. Kearns is not good at doing that at all. He just doesnt have that skill or voice character thats fit for TV. I would rather listen to Budhha TBH.

      Did that Scottish guy Bill Maclaren ever have a son ? If he did, someone should track him down and offer him a job. Many a nice winters Sunday arvo listening to him commentate the 6 nations.

      • Who?

        After the Wallaby penalty try, both Burkey and Sharpie on TEN were asking, “Why haven’t they taken the conversion?” With great urgency as Sexton lined up his second kick off. It took Bray a few times to convince the former players that the laws have changed, you get the 7 points automatically without having to kick it. Quite hilarious!

        • onlinesideline

          Notice how the best commentators were never players in pretty much most sports. Its a craft in and of itself. At least Bray has a delivery that you can hardly notice, which is basically what we all want.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Concur. The only difference I would raise on that one would be Adam gilchrist commentating on the Big Bash League. But paradigm remains mostly in tact. As most ex players stuggle to string 5 intelligable words together!

        • Moz

          I think Gordon Bray was a ref at some stage, so has a knowledge of the game and the laws. Plus he knows the history (including of the extended family) of every player.

        • Nutta

          Yes but remember we have not ever been out there so we have no right, knowledge or basis on which to comment.

      • Richard Patterson

        Well said. What I find most disrespectful is that the role of the analyst has evolved substantially in the past 3-5 years. Go listen to the really good NFL and MLB guys and they put you right inside the game as if you are playing it yourself. They are articulate, insightful, 100% impartial and educate the play-by-play guy and the viewer about how the game is unfolding. They single out mis-matches to look for, strategies within the overall strategy of the game and the player / coach changes taking place on the field to counter advantages (or accentuate advantages) within the contest.

        Compare that to Phil Kearns. The guy stopped playing the game 19 years ago. He has not evolved a style in 10+ years commentating on TV. He serves up the same cringe-worthy material every time in the booth. He is lazy in his analysis, is seldom insightful and openly partial to the teams he had previous connections with. Somehow Kearns and FOX TV think that’s the stuff the sports fan in 2018 wants to listen to from the game analyst.

        My single biggest criticism of Kearns though is his constant and vocal criticism of refereeing decisions. At a time when all of us want the referee to be seen, but not feature, Kearns is constantly bringing them to our attention. He is hostile when they get decisions against his team wrong and critical when he thinks opposition teams got a favourable ruling. He can interpret the same incident 2 ways — neither of which are positive! How is that helping the sport? How it that promoting people into refereeing? Kearns is lazy, ignorant but worst of all is fully aware of it. Raise all those points to him and he’d laugh in agreement.

        FOX Sports continued use of people like Kearns highlights the quality of the people there running the place. Any viewpoint of “mate, that’s what the Aussie viewer wants to hear” is outdated, misplaced and outright insulting. And they wonder why the modern day fan continues to search for alternative streaming options.

        • Parker

          Your description of ” lazy, ignorant but worst of all is fully aware of it” is spot on. It’s the Murdoch media brand in a nutshell. It’s what they deliver, attract and encourage. The best response is to turn it off.

        • Richard Patterson

          Strong point. Kearns defence will be “I just do what my bosses tell me to do” which is code for “forget about the intelligent rugby fan, dumb the whole thing right down and get people talking”. He’s the Steve Blocker Roach of Rugby. Painful.

        • Seaweed

          Remember Richard that these are the people who bring you “Kick & Chase”. Enough said.

        • Richard Patterson

          Haha. You mean that unlike the NRL which Fox devotes a ton of weekly shows to each week, are you saying that Fox Rugby’s decision to incorporate Drew Mitchell’s weekly “Top Gun” Award and some horrific attempts at humour with Wallaby players is a bad use of the 1 hour they get allocated each week? Don’t hurt me now Seaweed. Say it ain’t so!!

  • mikado

    Great game for the neutral. Ireland definitely upped the intensity, which was not a surprise. Australia failed to replicate their intensity from the 1st Test. I’m curious whether that was just due to Irish pressure, or whether there was some other reason. A lot of pressure on the Wallabies going into the decider, I think.

    Listening on Irish radio, the Irish fans seemed louder than the Australians. Fair reflection of the match, or just someone being clever with the effects mic?

  • onlinesideline

    I want to watch a replay but again as in last week first impressions was Kerevi is totally out of position and Ive said it before he aint a Wallaby. If he is, its at 12 in KBs absence. He is not fleet footed, he is slow off the mark, he is slow at full speed, he has no boot. You wont seem him run around the opposition 13, fend him off and go. The only thing he can do is barge. I just dont get it with him. I would have Hodge in their an day of the week. Hes fast, runs proper lines is a much more versatile player, can kick, pass, fend…. I really think the Kerevi experiment is going to cause a grief. Or even bring back TK.

    • OnTheBurst

      Couldn’t agree more re Kerevi. Clearly can’t pin the loss on him but with every game the question marks on whether he is a Test quality 13 get bigger and bigger.

      We need Hodge in the starting XV.

      • Nutta

        Hodge at 12. K-Train at 13. Bring Beale at 60min to run a team tiring defences.

  • Caeliv Donnelly

    Finally live to see an Irish team win a test in Australia/NZ – I’m only 37.

    Fell the wrath of Furlong. And our new back row player PO’Mcock.

    Good luck next week.

    • Garry

      Congratulations Michael Cheika. Another for your honour role. First coach to lose at home to Ireland since 1979. Arise all aussie players from those previous teams and shake your collective heads.

      • Mica

        In fairness this is a bloody good Irish team

  • Straith

    Sucks how the game finished. Wallabies were having a decent crack against a 14 man team. Folau takes it into contact and the Irish full back (first man in) swipes the ball out of the ruck to the side and Koroibete regathers. Should have been play on.
    Apparently the ref feels somehow Folau knocked it forward a meter whilst placing the ball backwards…
    vid for context: https://youtu.be/hcIQfPVSBc0?t=213

    • McWarren

      Struth Straith you’ve got good eyes. I can’t definitely see Kearney swipe the ball.

  • skip

    The kicking by the Wallabies was woeful. Whether it was by fair means or foul that the Irish ran Folau off his lines we consistently handed them possession in our half and then conceded dumb penalties. The Irish have a coach who works out what we’ll do and plans accordingly (hence also their breakdown success) whereas we have a predictable way of playing compounded by dumb mistakes. A smart team would win that game by not handing the Irish possession, territory and shots at goal and then chosing much smarter attacking options than ‘let’s hoist it for Izzy and hope he can jump for it’. Losing is bad. Losing in this dumb fashion happens too often and i’m sick of it.

    • Garry

      Tonight was a great example of how kicking, without a coordinated chase, is as powerful platform for the opposition to counter arrack from (NZ would have put 50 on us). Consistently our kicks where ten yards too far, or our chasers to late. And as an exiting tool, it quickly became predictable, and was planned for by the Irish. With his big boot, why wasn’t DHP (and later Hodge) used more often for variation? Do Cheika, Hooper and Foley know that DHP can kick long? It needs to be asked, because he hasn’t played under Cheika at the Waratahs,

      Foley’s lack of vision and management was highlighted during the yellow card period. To reduce the damage, the WBs needed to have possession from the restart, But he chooses to kick it long to an non contest. Why, when we have great ariel options I our back three, wasn’t it short? After their first points, he does exactly the same. Do we have the time for him to learn game management before the RWC?

      • Wobblies

        Foleys’s lack of precision with the boot is almost unbelievable. How can a professional athlete that trains for these exact situations get it wrong so often. He should be able to hit the mark at wil to give his team the best opportunity to regain possession or at the very least put serious pressure on the receiver. A great kicking game is the difference in these big games. If foley was playing for the All Blacks (which would never happen) he would be replaced within 20 minutes. However due to the wallabies having no options at 10 he continues to be sub standard as there is no viable option to replace him. The GAGR boys are the only ones that even discuss his shortcomings while the Fox Sports commentary team continue to gloss over his latest disaster.

  • onlinesideline

    I’ll say what the most irritating thing is about the present Wallaby setup.

    Michael Cheika – invest in a set of clippers and accept you have gone bald and make sure we never seen that racoon on the top of your dome EVER AGAIN man.

    You have a set of ears that most men would be proud of. Let them be the centre piece and give it up mate.

  • st saens

    “Crowd 19,000ish” (nearly all of them Irish)
    I wonder if Perth might have been a better choice of venue…(re)building bridges etc.

    • Brisneyland Local

      I agree. But we are not going to throw the Sandgropers a bone. The RA would be too worried about every one turning up in blue jumpers!

      • Moz

        Would we do that??? And you would probably think that we would start a few “Fooorrrrccccce” chants, and hold up a few rude banners! Actually, now that I write that, thats exactly what we did last time….good point!

        • Brisneyland Local

          Exactly. And so you guys and girls should ! Stick it to RA every chance you get. I am a Qld’er and still stick to RA because they are shite!

        • Moz

          Thanks. Then again, I have felt for you Qld’ers many a time, with some of the decisions your board have made. Although I was certainly conflicted when you guys took Woody Graham off us. Glad he left us, but felt for you, and then doubly so when he was renewed after the extensive search!

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yeah that would be the extensive search that usually only goes as far as the carpark. Interesting conflict of interest there. Jim Carmichael the CEO was the God Parents to Woody’s children! Hmmmmmm nepotism at its best.

    • Garry

      They need to drop their ticket prices in Melbourne to attract AFL fans (average revenue v total revenue). And perhaps allocate unsold tickets to rugby school kids.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yep, I must admit the AFL do that very well. Prices for families are very reasonable compared to rugby union or league. Price of food is still shit thought.

    • Custard Taht

      With tickets starting at $89.00 for an adult, they have priced themselves out of the Melbourne market.

      • onlinesideline

        90 bucks – thats is friggin incredible

    • onlinesideline

      I read 29 000

      • st saens

        Good to hear. 19,000ish would have been pretty hopeless.

    • Gun

      Bullshit was 29000 and plenty of Aussies. Typical Melbourne rugby crowd in that it was lots of expats and generally a great spirit though quiet.

    • McWarren

      Looked like a good crowd to me, with more gold than green. No doubt Perth would have done a great job as well.

  • Nutta

    Congratulations Irish.

    The Irish played like the Irish. Kept the ball when they could, kicked their penalties, choked and held up the ball runner and gave away nothing for free. They kept Pocock and Folau out of the game. Folau in particular was kept isolated by fairly simple variations in kicking depth and be sure the AIB and Boks are aware of that.

    We played like headless chooks, kicked poorly and gave them 3pters. We let Sexton stay in the game. Our penalty count was disappointing and we lacked the aggressive defence of last week.

    Off only about 30% possession we still out-try them 3-2 but we let them have WAYYY too much ball and too many penalties.

    2 controversial things to say:
    • I thought the Ref had a good game. I didn’t agree with all his calls but no one was in any doubt who was running the show.
    • Again Hoopers decision making was poor. We have a better option.

    • Brisneyland Local

      100% concur.

    • Rodger Ryan

      Referee was the real cancer of the game,Aussies deliberately knocked on 3 times no yellow card, tackling off the ball no yellow cards, going in to deliberately injur the man,spear tackle reported as tip tackle, worst aussie team I have ever seen to take to the field,you won’t bully this irish team,referee was cheat ,penalty count 3 times the amount of Ireland and only one yellow card for a dangerous deliberate spear tackle,bunch of frauds

      • qwasimodo

        Tell us what you really think. Ireland were the better team and you won. Why so bitter?

      • Nutta

        Wow.

        Good Morning Troll.

        Now fk off.

  • Brisneyland Local

    Well good morning GAGR’s! A very cold single figure morning here in Brissy (I personally thought Jo B-P had out lawed those, that and daylight saving). What a difference a week makes. The typical Wallabies Diamonds and stones form returns. A most dissapointing game, and the injury toll from it could have a flow on effect into the RC. Arghhhhh!!!!!! BL’s random thoughts:
    – Well done to the Paddy’s, and excellent turnaround and a clinical display, that I actually expected in the first came. Rugby smarts used through out, further highlighting we dont have any.
    – That yellow card is where we dropped our bundle, and never got back in the game.
    Our discipline was utter shite. Back to the Wallabies of old.
    – Our kicking was completely and utterly shite, Foley, other than one kick, should not be given the ball. Cheika’s insistence on letting him continue the kicking when even every fan out there knows he blows dog, is an indictment. As Hoss would say “Spanners all round!”
    – Our defence was not good. How many first tackles got slipped. I stopped counting after 15 in a ten minute period. Just well below par.
    – We were not committing to the breakdown, and muscle’ing them up front, and the Irish took advantage of that. They were over the gain line continually.
    – Genia was playing pretty well, but his broken arm is so not what we can afford at the moment.
    – Phipps was hit and miss. At times he was accurate and fast, then he was all over the shop like a bluderbuss.
    – Our front row was lacking. It clearly demonstrated some punch when rotated. Kepu seemed really off the pace last night. T-Thor seemed to come on the field doing a dose of speed. That looked good.
    – Hooper’s management of the referump was not good. The leadership that he didnt display was also telling.
    – I actually thought the referump had a pretty good game. He was consistent, didnt get too heavily involved and communicated with the players well. I loved the earful he gave to the Irish 9! I think he was channeling Nigel Owens.
    – Coleman will be out for weeks as well, not good!
    – Beale was pretty inconsistent.
    – Korobeite’s card was deserved, and just stupid! He is not playing NRL anymore!

    Overall boys and girls, that was dissapointing! Really dissapointing. Low and behold even when we were shit, we can manage to stay within striking distance. Imagine if we could consistantly remove those errors, we would be competitive. Over to you GAGR’s!

    • onlinesideline

      Coleman is goneskys for next week for sure and he knew it. Is it possible to get a shiner that BIG and that QUICKLY on the top of the cheekbone without it being fractured ?

      • Brisneyland Local

        Morning OLSL. Yep was a nasty haematoma. Had a few of those before, but they never came up that quickly.

      • Custard Taht

        Yep, had a head clash with a big fijian once. He was unfazed and probably didn’t even feel it, but my eye was black and closed within 5mins and no fracture.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yep have had head clashes with fijians too. I would rather have a head clash with concrete. It has more give.

    • Custard Taht

      It will be interesting to see how the Wallabies respond next week. They have a history of dropping their bundle in situations like this. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Irish win next week in a bit of a blowout.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yeah that is what I am worried about. No Genia, no Coleman, maybe no Pocock. continued poor leadership, this could get ugly. But would be consistent of the Cheika era!

  • Mica

    Headline should have been “Irish find cure for cancer”. Congratulations to Dr O’Mahoney and his team of physicians.
    The Irish were certainly much more clinical tonight. :)

  • Hoss

    Morning ladies and gents.

    Hard to argue with the result. The Paddies were outstanding and deserved the win, only baffling part is it wasn’t by a bigger margin.

    Can that ref do all test matches, thought he was outstanding. Didn’t agree with all his calls but was decisive, consistent and authoritative and didn’t impact the result one way or t’other

    Injuries aside its no time for panic. Tupou to start – nobody’s bent the line in our forwards until he came on, Latu also – another line bender and pilferer. Simmons to start (Coleman out for 4-6). Tui to start at 8, gives us bigger body and third jumper.

    Well played spuddies, played as many expected and a class act. The positive for Gold is they were well and truly off, scored more tries and barring Kearneys hand in the ruck in the 80th minute could quite possibly have stolen it at the end.

    All not lost, what a mouth watering week ahead.

    • onlinesideline

      Tui looked good – hes a starter in my book as well. I would contemplate him at lock also….maybe.

      You think Coleman is def out even if scans are clear ?
      How bad is Beale ? – my wifi buffered just as he went off (thats my excuse anyhow)

      • Hoss

        Morning mate.

        Nothing official this morning yet on any injuries fronts. Beale was actually stretching his groin during stoppages in play very early in the piece and it obviously got more uncomfortable, hence his quietist game without his usual ‘zip’

        stay tuned

      • Hoss

        Coleman cleared of any fracture

    • HK Red

      The Keith Earls non-try…..How did all four officials miss Sexton holding back Foley off the ball?? All they were concerned about was grounding, but the cynical interference was clear and obvious to see. If they were being consistent, should have been a penalty to Aus at worst and possible even a yellow to Sexton, given the location and cynical nature of the foul play.
      Unbelievable that all the commentators missed it as well.

      • Who?

        How can you card someone on attack when you can’t card someone after they’ve given away 4 consecutive penalties defending inside their 5m line..?

        • HK Red

          These and many other questions remain unanswered

    • Huw Tindall

      Some interesting team tweaks there Hoss. My thoughts:
      – Is Tui match fit enough yet? Hasn’t played 80 in a long while.
      – I’d think about Hodge in for Korobeite as well. Hodge seems to have a good rugby brain which is critical in test matches whilst Korebeite is all power. And of course Hodge comes with a big boot.
      – Folau Fainga is available remember so could be between him and Latu. Latu looked good. Was all over the field and getting into rucks etc. I’d go with Latu.
      – Would stick with Kepu too but not be shy about Tupou on early. He’s got the motor and is damaging.

      All in all, despite playing sh!te and not countering Irish tactics we weren’t far off losing and scored 3 tries to 2. I’m going to continue to be positive about Aussie Rugby!

    • Keith Butler

      You should have been in the section we were sitting. Some interesting banter from the Aussie fans regarding the parentage, or lack of, and eyesight of the ref throughout the game but to be expected I suppose. The way we started with Beale slicing through to score looked promising but Paddies took the game by the scruff of the neck and well deserved their win. At least I didn’t have to listen to the whining of Phil Kearns and Greg Martin. Made my evening.

    • Who?

      The ref… I’m still baffled how the Irish conceded so few penalties for 2 YC’s, yet the Wallabies gave away 4 consecutive penalties inside the 5m line after the 1st warning (he gave two, but never carded) without conceding a card. He’s better than last year (he was horrible last year), but not consistent in application of cards (though he was consistent in other areas).

      • Hoss

        The Cian Healy card was a no-brainer, came from offside position, entered the ruck at 90 degrees directly on the ball carrier, pulled the maul straight to ground in a clear try scoring opportunity. Deliberate & cynical. i agree with you on the second card, but then he missed the Kearney hand in the ruck (last play of the night).

        I said earlier i didnt think he impacted the final result – the Greens deserved to win & did, perhaps he impacted the margin of the win?

        • Who?

          I don’t think you can give a PT like that and not award a YC, so I’ve very little argument on Healy’s card. But the second card was a penalty against Murray for dissent the week before, rather than a TMO review. Definite home town director stuff there (I hate it – because it happens everywhere, and home teams shouldn’t have that much of a home advantage). And it was way less cynical than the penalties the Wallabies gave away (15m out compared to less than 5m out, set defensive line compared to breaks, etc).
          I think you’re probably not far off, but I’m not 100% certain that he even changed the margin that much. He was consistent, I think both sides have room for complaint. Ireland would complain about his adjudication of mauls (very slow to call them, inconsistent in judging entries) and YC’s, Australia wouldn’t like his adjudication of some pilfering (thinking POM’s turnovers, where Ireland complained last week about Pocock). Definitely better than he was last year (thought he was horrible last June).

  • juswal

    All I have to say about that match is:

    1. The Wallabies cannot hope to win if they let the opposition rule possession and field position. They lacked a counter to the rush defence, they lacked tactical kicking, and when they did kick, their chase failed.

    2. Ireland lack try-scoring power. All that possession and just two tries . . . that’s weak.

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Well written Reg and you’ve nailed some good points. The kicking absolutely but also the isolation of the Wallabies. Ireland got more turn overs in this game than they would have in any three 6 Nation games. The Wallabies ability to support their players and control the ball was pretty poor all round. The Irish have seen how NZ nullified Pocock last year and did the same. Hold off until he gets in there and then double team him so he can’t stay on his feet. Unfortunately due to this happening the balance of the loose forwards was again not there and while Time didn’t have a great game he was having to do a lot of work by himself.
    Apart from the first try, that was very very good, the backs didn’t seem to have a plan except go for one side to the other and hope the Irish got tired and a hole would appear. I found that pretty disappointing and would have liked to have seen a lot more bringing someone back against the flow, Folau injecting himself or anything but it just never happened.
    Injuries are going to be tough and next week we’ll see how much depth there really is I think.

    And OSLS yeah I’ve got my decider but I wish I didn’t.

    • Greg

      That quick tap (hooper?) was immediately penalized for not releasing was a good example of being isolated. They gave up 3 points were penalized and a I recall the Irish ended up scoring of the penalty. If taht recollection is correct… there is a 6 point turn around.

      • onlinesideline

        I think it was Foley who passed to Hooper. Yeah that was lame brained. Needed to settle and go for corner lineout. We hadnt had the ball for ages and then we had a chance to truck it up or whatever and he does that.

        The team were rattled. We still dont have the elder statesman we need in the side.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Genia and Pocock. But not sure genia was on the field when ubove mentioned incident occured. It seems Pocock and Genia are constantly walking Hooper back of the edge!
          Cutout the middle man and make either them Captain, my preference is Pocock!

        • onlinesideline

          My preference is Thor – he’ll just tap and go everythingggggg

        • Brisneyland Local

          Pure gold!

  • Kristian Thomas

    The Irish strategy of locking on to their ball runner before he is tackled, surely this is shepherding when the tackler is partially impeded?
    Also Foley’s tactical kicking.. ugh!!

    • Nutta

      It’s called ‘Latching’ these days. It used to be called a flying wedge and it’s as illegal now as it was back then. The Boks and the English do it a lot.

      • Latching is different to a flying wedge. For a flying wedge, there’s a team mate bound to each side, for latching there’s only one additional player.

        To answer the original point, because the latched player binds to the back of the ball carrier, in essence like a flanker to a prop in a scrum, they’re behind the ball and the ball-carrier you could have a point if you run around and try to tackle through the line from the latched player to the ball carrier. If they’ve got up from a tackle (so there’s no offside line), latch and trundle forward, a retiring player could do that. Whether the referee would catch it, I’m not sure. However, running into a normal defensive line behind a ruck, the latching player isn’t preventing anyone from executing a tackle because the defender can hit the ball carrier however they like.

        It should be pointed out that this is a counter, although it’s been around for a while, to the Irish tactic of double tackling and holding the player up to cause a maul and a turnover. The Irish did this a lot 2-3 years ago, NH teams adopted both the gang tackle and latching as a counter tactic. As the double tackle moves away, latching will go away too, because it makes your attack too narrow – I suspect the Irish went back to it as a specific counter to Pocock.

        • Nutta

          My read is this: a good old fashioned wedge was 3 (or more) players pre-bound. I say Latching is similar because it’s pre-binding. A gang tackle is perfectly legal but pre-binding is not. I can bind as soon as my man hits the defender/s but binding before contact is not legal essentially because it’s dangerous play. That’s why it is as illegal now as it was then because it’s pre-binding and dangerous play.

        • It’s certainly similar and there’s definitely an argument to be made it should be illegal because of the pre-binding, and maybe World Rugby will change their definition of the flying wedge to include latching. But at the moment they say it’s at least 3 players, and they include some other caveats so it doesn’t apply to a group that splinters off a maul too.

          So, according to the current laws, it’s not illegal, and latching isn’t a flying wedge.

        • Who?

          Ok, just checked the laws and my post above about binding not being required to create a flying wedge is inaccurate. You do need to bind for a flying wedge, and latching – especially when it’s grabbing a jersey (i.e. not a full arm bind) isn’t technically binding, and doesn’t create a flying wedge.
          But it does create a ‘cavalry charge’, which is equally illegal, and doesn’t require binding.

        • Brendan Hume

          Really common now at every level of footy. Not sure if there should be a crack down – but as soon as a defending player engages the two players on their feet, it is a maul and should be refereed as such. Any on side player on their feet should be able to get hands on the ball to remove it, and any player off their feet can hang on to keep it in the maul. A collapsed maul does not a ruck make…

        • No, because the cavalry charge is players moving (other than the kicker) before a penalty or free kick is taken. Someone is ready to take a tap kick, signals his or her teammates to start the charge and just before they draw level, taps the ball and passes it. That’s the cavalry charge.

          This is a player who has legally picked up or had the ball passed to them, and has a second player moving in a supporting line with them. There’s no tap kick to restart play, so the cavalry charge law doesn’t come into effect.

          You can certainly argue that it should be made illegal. But it’s not obstruction except under some unlikely circumstances. It’s not a flying wedge, it’s not a cavalry charge. World Rugby could change the interpretation of either to make it one or other, or add a new law to make it illegal. I don’t think they’re likely to it’s a tactic with benefits and drawbacks – it gives you a small advantage in terms of gain line success in the tackle and making a ruck against a gang tackle but it also makes for a narrower attacking line and going around the end of a blitz defence is one of the ways to attack against it. Unless there are indications it’s dangerous, which I haven’t seen suggested, it’s a tactic that will last for a little while until someone works out a counter for it, that counter will spread and latching will disappear.

  • Andy

    Ireland played to their streangths better than we did. Simple. And well done to them. Well deserved.

    It will be a good learning experience for our young guys. And if there were any positives you could say we never threw the towel in. The attitude was there but we just got done by the better team.

    I hope Cheika sticks by the young fellas in the pack. They all have a really high ceiling in my opinion and extended playing time together will only improve them as a group. For the next test I would like to see how Tui goes starting at 6, and Latu on as a starter.

    Again though, the most concerning stat for me was the missed tackle count. 34 at 81% is not good enough for a top 6 international team imo.

    • Brisneyland Local

      Yep, they slipped sooo many first tackles. I stopped counting because I ran out of fingers and toes!

  • Pedro

    Turning point for me was when we turned over possession about 6 min into the second half to only have Beale kick it to the edge of the irish 22, into the arms of one of the two players waiting for it. It was tactically suicidal, it was clear at the end that the Wallabies could ask questions of the irish, but we either went one out, passed it wide or just kicked aimlessly. There was only that last gasp effort and the brief period at the start where we ever switched the point of attack.

    Congrats to the Irish, the better team on the night.

  • Andy

    Hi all, was at the game last night attending my first ever international match! Disappointing to the Wobblies lose, but great to be there, enjoyed the atmosphere. Official crowd figure was just over 29,000, which seemed to be at least 50% Irish supporters. Highlight was singing “i love you Bernie” (to the tune of “can’t take my eyes off you”) when he was kicking…

  • Bobas

    Burke can’t even pronounce his own name correctly.

  • Keith Butler

    If ‘latching’is illegal why was it not penalised at all last night. The Irish were serial offenders. Not a choke tackle to be seen though – to obviously round the neck.

    • McWarren

      Latching? This seems to be a new term for an old ploy used by every rugby team on the planet. Watch some footage of any team employing pick and drives close to the try line.

      But we lose and suddenly it’s dastardly act committed by those northerners.

      • Keith Butler

        Yes. Never heard it before until this round of tests. Read elsewhere complaints that the bound player was protecting the ball and that it was just a mini version of the flying wedge of old that was I believe outlawed. Whether it’s the same as a pick and drive is a mote point.

    • Who?

      It’s illegal and I’ve railed against it for years. The Saffas in 09 were the masters of it. It’s illegal because you don’t even have to be bound (and the Irish weren’t generally bound – they often had a handful of jersey, but that’s not the technical definition of binding) to form a flying wedge or cavalry charge.
      But we play under the interpretations as they are, and no one’s penalized it for years.

      • Keith Butler

        I remember an Irish prop scoring a try at Twickenham many years ago with three or four of his mates propelling him over the line for a famous win.

  • It would have been interesting if the ref had called a penalty on the final play of the game. The ball was obviously batted back by a hand, balls don’t move that fast otherwise. We would of had a 5 meter line out and might have scored. It would have been completely undeserved, Ireland was by far the better team, and we got the rub of the green that kept us in the match, but we might have actually won that game.

    That said. I don’t think either of Ireland’s yellows should have been. The final score flattered us a little. They were the much better team and completely lived up to their number 2 ranking.

  • Missing Link

    Official crowd figure was 29,000 – 30,000

  • moaning expat

    Some analysis of the game and Ireland’s tactics of negating Folau. Very much worth a read;
    Thought you guys may find this interesting. Haven’t seen the dead ball line for a while… http://www.the42.ie/israel-folau-ireland-analysis-aerial-threat-4075375-Jun2018

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