Let’s stop the GPS competition being tied

Lee Grant July 27, 2012 9

No GravatarEverybody likes a winner, but a competition with just a few teams in it will end in a tie too often. And a that’s like kissing your sister.

Let’s use the bonus point system they use in Super Rugby: gain a point for scoring four tries or more and for losing by seven or less; then if the comp comes up tied, take it on the number of tries scored, then on points for and against.

Better still, use the Top 14 bonus point system. They have a losing bonus point deal, but to get a try scoring bonus point in France you have to score three more tries than your opponent does; so only one team can get a try bonus point in a game.

This rewards defence: teams can’t coast having scored four tries to one with a win secured, because the losing team can score a try on the bell and spoil the bonus party. Seen it lots of times. And nobody gets a try bonus point in a loose game when one team scores six tries and the other four.

I know what you are going to say in the pub with a schooner in your hand: why give a loser a point for losing — or even worse, two points if they’ve scored four tries — and you use the Super Rugby method?

You’ve got your biggest rival by the nuts, the foot on the throat (hard to do both at the same time but this is my blog), the siren goes off, and the bastards are still smiling because they’ve got two points. Make it no points for losing.

Not so fast, says the bloke drinking the shandy. Watch the Heineken Cup in the pool games: there are only four teams in each pool and they play six games: three at home and three away. There are some stupendous finishes, for example when teams are striving to get a losing bonus point in France and the pool standings are tight.

There are bound to be ties when teams lose only one game out of six, and sometimes there are three-way ties. We’ve seen it in recent years in the GPS: Shore, View and Joeys tied in 2006, and Kings and View tied in 2008 and 2009 — everybody wins.

Whichever bonus system you use, something is better than nothing in a small competition.

Three ties in a competition in six seasons are too many. If a bonus points system is good enough for the Rugby World Cup it should be good enough for the GPS.

Get with it, GPS guys.

Discussion »

  • Nico Zandberg

    Bonus points does nothing other than distracting teams from focusing on winning. Look at this years Super Rugby Log without bonus points it would have been 100% the same. With the “Expansive” teams going for tries rather than wins losing out.

    Rugby just like any other sport is about winning.

    • ripper868

      Nah, Rugby like any other sport at the school age is about playing the sport. And to be honest, I think Ruby is more about being involved in Rugby then winning and losing right the way through the amateur ranks. It’s great to win sure, but in the end people only remember who anchored the boat race and finished their schooner in 0.8 seconds.

  • Lindommer

    Sensible suggestions, Lee, but the chances of the GPS changing their points system are negligible. The GPS alickadoos will only alter their structures when they have to. IIRC, there’s even been one four-way tie in the winner’s circle.

  • gtpih

    Great idea, but unlike S15 where table positions only determine play-off positions, in the GPS it would be possible for an undefeated team to lose.

    Team A undefeated but with no bonus points, Team B, one loss but bonus points from every match would finish higher on the ladder.

    For it to work they would have to have a rule where being undefeated trumped bonus points

    If you used the S15 method ( 4try and loss <7) and GPS 2points for a win &1point for a draw, the 2011 table would have been the same with the exception of Shore and Kings swapping places

    School Original Amended 4Tty <7

    SIC 14 19 5 0
    TSC 12 16 4 0
    NC 10 14 3 1 0
    SJC 7 10 2 1
    SCEGS 4 9 2 3
    TKS 7 8 1 0
    SGS 2 2 0 0

    • http://BigFella Big Fella

      In the 2004 CAS Comp with Bonus Points, Barker & Waverley were joint premiers, equal on points, even though Barker went through the season undefeated and Waverley lost one game.

  • Elfster

    Actually I think it would be physically possible to have your rival by the nuts and foot on the throat concurrently. You may need to be rather short and ‘facing’ the right direction, but it would be a plausible possibility.

  • http://www.doubletakeproductions.com.au/sports/ armatt

    Love it. Great suggestion.

  • gerard flanagan

    Geez,
    I thought GPS rugby was a rivetting enough experience as it is.

    What did the Beatles say?

    “Let it be, let it be….”

  • From the backrow

    A different scoring system would help to maintain the comp over the whole season. Many times I have seen players from GPS schools “give up” after losing a game because they are no longer undefeated and so believe they can not win the comp

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