Live Score & Insta Review – Wallabies v. Argentina

Matt Rowley September 15, 2012 80

No GravatarHere’s our score and live review of the Wallabies versus the Argentine Los Pumas.

First Half  - Wallabies 3 – Pumas 6

If they’d played ‘Yakety Sax’ from The Benny Hill Show as a soundtrack to this half it would have made sense. Barnes has hit the post twice for penalties, Samo dropped the ball trying to ground it in the corner and Sharpie was held up over the line.

The Wallabies have had 64% of the ball and 70% of the territory. The only threat from Argentina has come from intercepts and fly hacks. With just a bit of finishing the Wallabies could be 20 points up.

As ever they’re making yards with some sameway running, and then it slows, sputters, they go too wide and it all goes to crap. When they keep the pace up gaps appear, which Ioane and AAC are exploiting quite well.

Leading the blooper reel is Quade Cooper. Intercept passes, cold knock-ons, bungled clearances. Look for the lowlights reel on YouTube tomorrow.

On the plus side Kane Douglas has been having a belter and the scrum has been largely solid.

Second Half

Quade Blooper takes it to a new level, donating a charge-down try to the Pumas just minutes in. 6-11

But then, within two minutes, the Wallabies forget to chase a Barnes bomb or realign in defence and the Argies go 60 metres to score. 6-16

Finally, some tighter forward play gets the Wallabies to the line and McCabe takes an angle to crash over. 13-19 in the 61st.

After a few more face-palm moments, include a brainfart where he tapped and booted the ball directly to touch off a free kick, Phipps makes a dart down the short side and connects with Diggers for a try in the 69th minute. With the conversion the Wallabies at last take the lead 20-19.

Forget what I said earlier about the scrums — they’ve started to seriously unhinge.

In the 75th minute the Wallabies snaffle a questionable penalty at the breakdown under pressure on their 22, get downfield and milk a collapsed maul penalty. It looks like Cooper is going to throw the Matador, he thinks better of it and instead Kurtley ‘Gilbert’ Beale steps up and slots a Bloem special. 23-19.

Typically Australia spills the restart giving the Pumas a shot in the wrong half of the field. The Pumas put a few phases together, but are eventually held up at a maul and the donga tolls.

FINAL SCORE: Wallabies 23 – Argentina 19

Yes, it was a win and ultimately the grafters in the team like Sharpe, Ioane, Hooper, Douglas and McCabe got the job done. Gutsy. When the Wallabies played more directly and did the simple things well, the rewards came.

But surely no one can deny that the level of play — the basic skills under pressure and the ability to enforce a game plan — was woeful. Those pining for a change in leadership of the coaching staff will rue this as the chance that got away, as some of the play in this game made the standard in the losses to Samoa and Scotland look respectable.

It would also be wrong not to praise Argentina who pressured at the tackle and breakdown all day and took the most of the opportunities that came their way. This is not a gimme year for the Pumas, they have hit the ground running and have made this a better competition already.

AUSTRALIA 23 (Digby Ioane, Pat McCabe tries Berrick Barnes 2 cons Barnes 2, Kurtley Beale pens) bt ARGENTINA 19 (Julio Farias Cabello, Tomas Leonardi tries Juan Martin Hernandez 3 pens) at Skilled Park. Referee: Wayne Barnes. Crowd: 22,278.

Discussion »

  • BloodRed

    The Argies have just scored 2 tries in as many seconds. Deans will need a security detail to get out of the country tomorrow

  • AJ

    I would be more concerned for Wayne Barnes’ safety. On second thoughts, no, I’m not concerned at all. He deserves what he gets.

  • bill

    Phipps best afield. Dennis, i wouldn’t argue with him winning it, his best game of his test career. Props to Argentina, a very good display of playing to the their strengths and minimising their weaknesses and supporting each other in that endeavour. Cooper? when all else still is missing, his short passing game and vision remains, not a bad start for a player. Needs to, and will improve.

    Came up trumps for Robbie as a coach, Slipper got a bit of an education here, Alexander was good. I can start to understand Henry’s griping about Stuart Barnes, first scrum penalty against Alexander resulted from baulking by the Argie prop. However Barnes ,the ref, was fairly reasonable over the course of the game, No I’m not suggesting the kiwis are prone to over…nay…*emo* sensitivity when it comes to refs….well, what do you expect when you dress in all black?!!!!!

    If anything else had gone wrong we’d have lost that game and we’d be celebrating an Argies maiden win in the rc and well desrved. So much to do, still, well done on the wallabies in their application for this game and series so far… as a fan of rugby I would want another 5 percent in your execution lads.

    • Coodabeenawesome

      Bill you should be on the Walls coaching team. Your description in no way related to what I watched

      • bill

        Yup, ok, I’ll bite, what were you watching?

    • http://www.facebook.com/RebuildTheWaratahs hannibal

      Is this opposite world?

  • boutbloodytime

    It was bloody ugly, but the Wallabies are winning the close ones…now they need to get the standards up & start putting away teams properly…

    The injury toll is huge, but these gutsy wins are demonstrating that there is depth in Australian rugby…now we just need a clear game plan & to execute it…oh yeah, and to cut out the bloody repeated brain explosions!!!

  • Thierry dusautoir

    Cooper was definately not that bad. He had some mistakes with the intercept and charge down but you review is a definately beat up

    • http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/ Matt Rowley

      He’d made three howlers by the 5th minute. Which game were you watching?

      • Ready Steady Heavy

        Howlers?? Mate your definition of howler is pretty crap then you definately over blowing things………are you Sir Graham Henry in hiding.

        • Thierry Dusautoir

          Mate I understand he had some bad mistakes but your definately beati it up. 3 ‘Howlers’ by your definition in the first five minutes? Think he might of had three howlers the whole game . The intercept , the drop chase on the kick and charge down………if quade wasn’t there forcing us over the Advantage line we would have lost.

        • Sammy

          I agree … howlers!
          1st touch – threw it to a Pumas player.
          2nd touch – threw a forward pass to Barnes.
          3rd touch – dropped the ball inside the Pumas 22.

        • OOAAH

          Cooper was rubbish. Are you gen y in hiding?

      • bill

        Yes he had a a lot of crap execution( I wanted to throttle him) in that first twenty or thirty but still our game looked so much better than the last few games in it’s shape, in ways it just has not looked in a long while.

      • jrsONE

        Matt, will there be player ratings for this game? Missed those last week, and I’m hoping they aren’t just for Bledisloe matches?

        For mine, I thought Cooper had some bright spots – but a few (maybe more than a few) HOWLERS, as you noted.
        I thought Kane Douglas grabbed his opportunity with both hands, but I always reserve judgment regarding workrate for the tight five until I read Scott’s analysis. Hopefully the numbers show him to be a keeper!
        Keep up the great work!

        • http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/ Matt Rowley

          I’m hoping Lance Free has got the player ratings covered this week – so they’ll certainly have no sugar coating this week.

      • sph45

        Hey Gagr,

        My feeling is that we should persist with Quade. He was bad at times tonight. But I also feel that there were times where opportunities he was creating went begging because he didn’t have players (backs) running off his shoulders (a game plan/cohesion issue, not necessarily a Quade issue).

        Perhaps my prescription is foolish, but I would like to see our running game built around Cooper, and at least show patience in him at ten for the rest of this year.

        Anyway, would you replace with him?

        Great site – love it.

        • http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/ Matt Rowley

          He’s a great talent and I’m not saying he should be cut, but he did pull a bunch of howlers tonight.

          I also think if the Wallabies played a pattern better he would look a lot better as well.

      • Brax

        Yes he had some howlers & I was even calling for him to be pulled, however he did set up 2 tries ( Sharpie got all twisted up in the 1st one) & had a hand in Samo’s, who blew it.
        His passing game is what saves him, it’s, at times, sublime.

    • stillatragic

      He made mistakes, sure, but he took on the line, threw flat passes ( OK, easy to intercept) but was pushing the advantage line all the time. What he needed was some runners. Don’t think he deserves the opprobrium that will surely come his way.

  • bill

    Just a suggestion but can we start calling the kiwis Dominated the morning after one of our matches on the grounds they win and wake up kiwis, whereas we enjoy seeing some rugby from at least one(…grumbles…probably all black) side and wake up aussies win or lose?

    • JJM

      Have you been drinking Bill? That made no sense… Ha ha ha

      • bill

        less than usual, referring to the margins, days dominated.

  • spectator

    Some random Match impressions:

    Phew!!!

    Wallabies lacked alot, but not always, cohesion in the backline, although half plays a role, it is really first and second combo that usually determines backline threat – not sure if instinctual match is going to change there & reminded me abit of world cup, maybe having the crash ball at center is worth consideration but is in general a wider issue with complicated pros and cons. Both first and second showed their talents in game all the same.

    Generally, Wallabies kept ball in hand alot more, but perhaps lacked overall some of the spark & cohesion that they showed elements in regaining from Bok game.

    Was enjoying the slightly different type of game in general to watch purely as a rugby game against the Argies as a spectator until those two tries…

    A better team would have shut then out, but on the flip side the Wallabies were the better team & deserved the win. Will need something different playing the Pumas at home though.

    Phew!!!

    Go the Wallabies!

  • bill

    My biggest question out of Argentina’s entry into the rugby championship is WHY DIDN”T THE ESTABLISHMENT WANT THESE GUYS IN THE 6/7 NATIONS tournament? Are you fucking spare?!

    • Mighty Moth

      Just my opinion but it seems like there is a referee’s agenda to be a bit lenient on the Argies. Every game I have seen there has been some lax calls for Argies and some harsh ones for the other SH teams.
      Kudos to the Argies for being competitive but a lot of the calls are in their favour.

      • bill

        Nothing Sir Richie hasn’t enjoyed in his career and enjoyed again at about the 70th minute against SA last night while lying on top of the tackled player and not rolling away, next phase All black penalty.Not Richies fault, but it tick’s u off if you’re the opposition.

        • S Paddy

          The old Mccaw chestnut again. Pathetic. Watch the replay of him last night against SA. He was breathtaking. The chase of thelate penalty kick that hit the post is the difference between him and our guys. NEVER gives up, ALWAYS dies for the cause, and DEMANDS the same from his team. I know Cooper plays a different position but did that look like a man dying for the Australian cause. Come on.

  • Will he or won’t he….

    Agentina very unlucky…Aust got out of jail like last week but now have to travel to Sth America where the All Blacks will also find it tough to win then to the lions den in Africa.

    Great to watch two old foes battle it out across the ditch true test match rugby but thought Aust played ok and Agentina is not far off the mark.

    Deans mustn’t be sleeping well but not much he could do without the talent.

    Aust will never have the mongrel in them as long as it continues to be a rich pussy sport in this country…:it needs some league players to teach them how to hard men n not soft teddy bears playing a mans sport….

    • bill

      Yeah I remember playing grade, funny how most of the guys you played with were tradies, or in my case on the dole, not exactly a silverfish sport……at school level that perception might hold true, not at grade in my experience.

  • Sammy

    Why wasn’t Cooper dragged before half time? Appalling, lack of basic skills and he was a liability to the Wallabies.

    • bill

      Question of perception I guess….mediated by the walls of your colon.

    • BloodRed

      How about because no one else in that back line can draw the defence or create a try like Quade. For every error he made he created an opportunity eg Sharpie’s non-try. Think Barnes or Kurtley 2012 could have done that? Au contraire

  • Dave

    So again, what a surprise, there is apparently still so much to work on. As it was after the last game, and the game before. However there were some good signs. We did after all get over the line four times but didn’t score on two of those occasions due to the Puma’s passionate defence. That argie 60m effort should have been pulled back due to a boot on the touch line. We also missed some bread and butter penalties that would have made the scoreline a lot more comfortable. But overall it was an all too shaky win by the WBs. The only time it isn’t is when it’s a shaky loss.

    Cooper needs to pick up the pace. He looked slow tonight. Phipps’ service was pretty quick and accurate for me to almost forgive that brain fart. Douglas looks the goods. Hooper again did a good job although I don’t think he pilfered any ball. Although not surprising as the Argies play a pretty good rucking game. I can’t help but think that Pocock would have asserted more pressure there. All this talk that Pocock could possibly lose his position is still very premature. The ever young Samo was good. The scrums performed better than I thought and the lineouts so-so. Our attack however was pretty unimaginative falling apart all too easily. Barnes was solid. And those grubber kicks were kept to a minimum. The only thing I can remain truely positive about however is that we can actually win games while still being this bad. It seems our potential is now the thing that keeps WB supporters showing up at games. A game where we show that potential and play well for the full 80 would be nice. I’d settle for a full 40 at this point. Or the ARU might have to start implementing a refund policy.

    The Argies are going to be hard for us to beat in Rosario if we don’t tap into this potential. People can talk injuries all day but our depth isn’t really an issue. It’s our basic skills and decision making that is even coming from our experienced players.

    Having said all that though, no one is really performing to their potential. The AB and saffa game wasn’t much better. The only team that’s really impressing are the Argies and they’re losing! What does that say about us!

    Again, good to get another win but we can do so much better and that better performance can’t come quick enough.

    • TerribleTowel

      the “ever young samo” had an absolute shocker imo. Bombed a try, incredibly low work rate (to the naked eye) and turned the ball over when we had a 5 metre attacking scrum. It was a toss up between him and the ever-anonymous Dave Dennis for worst forward I reckon.

      • bill

        You’re kidding aren’t you, Dennis was our best forward by a mile.

        • TerribleTowel

          I’m not, did I miss something? I counted a few runs, two of which ended up behind the advantage lines and 4-5 tackles, with no errors. My definition of anonymous for a loose forward. I think Liam Gill when he was on showed what we had been missing. I’m happy to be proved wrong though.

      • Dave

        I have to disagree also. Dennis had a good game. Made some good decisions. It was him deciding to offload while he was in the tackle that almost lead to the try of Samo’s. He could have easily gone to ground killing the movement. He also secured a lot to the Puma’s kick offs. Solid in the line out. Did a lot of the little things well. Hardly anonymous.

        Yes Samo messed up on a couple of occasions but overall he was always threatening when running the ball, his defence was good, solid in the line outs and secure at the back of the scrum. Even the penalty you mentioned wasn’t really his fault. He secured the ball but then his support left him. A good 40 minute effort. Higgers came on and didn’t impose himself nearly as much.
        Gill was on for what 6 minutes? Don’t get me wrong I rate Gill but he hardly did enough to show what was missing.

        Don’t know how you have drawn your conclusions but I reckon you are wrong about both players.

        • TerribleTowel

          I feel like you’re making my case for me there re Dennis! he had one moment of good attacking play that you’ve identified, other than that, he was solid in the line outs and restarts… well I’d hope so! that’s expected. My view on Dennis is that isn’t this just the same we got from Richard Brown and Ben McCalman, and the majority view is that they wren’t up to international competition? they did the little things right and played solid, for the most part, but added nothing else, and they both had higher work rates than DD. For mine, his play was just a less efficient version of them. He’s a grafter who doesn’t graft enough.

          I know we clearly don’t agree here, but just on Samo, he wasn’t good in the line outs, he flat out missed a good ball that went through his hands, and this next bit may be ultra nitpicking, but he should have been penalised twice when he won a line out, because he has the habit of when we go down to drive off the line out, he hands the ball to the ripper coming in to drive on him, when that ripper isn’t bound, instead of holding it in and letting the ripper rip it, which is truck and trailer.

        • Dave

          You’re right, we won’t agree.

          Your case for DD was that he was clearly the worst forward on the park. While I’m not saying he was the best, he didn’t put a foot wrong and added to forward momentum and ball security. You clearly expect more from him and I agree. Nearly the whole team can do more. But worst forward? Not by a long shot.

          On Samo. For mine Samo’s lifters weren’t quick enough or TPN’s throw was mistimed. No fault of Samo’s. You may very well be right that Samo offloads too quickly from a lineout but how many of these calls have gone against him?

  • dasduke

    I thought Cooper was alright – albeit he is finding his feet still and there were mistakes,

    Some of those passes were actually pretty good. The one to sharp when he was held up – drew defenders and held to the last minute put him through the gap.

    Maybe if Robbie had given him more game time earlier…

    • Drop kick

      Of course it was Deans fault Cooper played badly!

  • Pedro

    We played with good determination for the full 80. Sure we should have “sworded” them. But if it was anyone else we would chalk it up as one for the ages. Good in you Argentina, but good work wallabies.

  • Dave

    For the record, I counted QC’s bloopers and there were 7 in total, 5 in the first half.

    • Paddy

      Geez, did QC kill your cat or something? Think you would enjoy the game a lot more if you actually watched it, not spending it counting someone’s mistakes

      • Pete

        I would have enjoyed the game a lot more without so many Quade f@#k ups, Paddy…

        Are there any masochists out there who feel like putting together a Quade lowlights reel?

    • Pedro

      Spot on Dave, Cooper was excruciatingly bad, Deans admitted that he wanted to hook him but couldn’t because of Shipperley’s injury.

      It’s now clearly irrelevant what he has done for QLD. Cooper has had so many chances to show what he’s made of at Test level. Time and time again he shows weakness under pressure and has proved to be more of a liability than an asset to the Wallabies. How many brain farts can you excuse per game?

      In my mind, Cooper is the MOST OVERRATED WALLABY OF THE LAST DECADE. James O’Connor we need you back fast…

    • Johnny-boy

      Did you count how many good things Cooper did Dave ?

  • Geoff Carruthers

    As much as it pains me to admit it, Barnes did ok tonight, but what’s with the cramping? Surely at this level players should be fit enough to last 80 mins. without falling in a screaming heap on the ground at the 60/70 minute mark. Since none of the other players seemed to be affected it would seem that he is either unfit or unwell.

    • James

      footballers calf migraine

    • Chairman

      Maybe he needs salt in his diet!

    • Dougs

      Too much kicking…

  • TerribleTowel

    well thank god for Pat McCabe and Kane Douglas, the only wallabies who actually looked like they gave a fuck. I actually don’t doubt that the majority of them do, just they don’t really show it in both their attitude and their play. Referees (including you, mr. touch judge) had a shocker, not just in terms of boning the wallabies with the yellow card for having the temerity to clean out and the foot in touch try, but also some suspect decisions for the wallabies as well. Think the argies got the rub of the green though. Quade Cooper played abysmally and well at the same time, one the one hand he must have turned the ball over 5 times and conceded the charge down try through lack or urgency, but at the same time, the back line looked dangerous every time he distributed outside well. Pity it only happened about half of the time. Phipps again had bright spots (great try set up, mostly clean service) but was a bit of a turnstile and had the dreaded three-step creep into his game later on. I guess what I’m trying to get at is that the majority of the wallabies played well at times, but also played shockingly as well. Just glad that we finally clicked for about 15 minutes and put the match away. One last little rant. BERRICK BARNES DRINK SOME FUCKING WATER, THIS IS THE THIRD TIME YOU’VE HAD TO BE HOOKED FOR CRAMPS. I mean for fuck’s sake, that is something a schoolboy rugby player is expected to get right, does someone need to hold him down at half time and fucking strap him into an IV? it’s not that bloody hard to drink.

    • Alan

      Bit harsh TT, i thought there was alot of good honest effort out there. Mightily impressed with the scrum. Penalties were exchanged but overall i thought we achieved parity – a big fucking achievement against that fine argies pack who troubled the boks and the ABs. Tatafu and co deserve wraps for that

      Thought diggers was more then deserving of the MOTM award, great to see him cross the chalk. Game in game out he is one of our best and his hunger for work tonight made him a standout for me.

      Happy to see our depth does contain some quality, Douglas while i thought he faded later in the game up to then was having a blinder. Hooper again was pretty good and nice to see Dennis feature a little more

      Still though, like last week there is MUCH to work on. Do the wallabies have a backs coach? they could do with someone giving them proper guidance and direction because our attack looks pretty clueless and unorganised most of the time

      • TerribleTowel

        @Alan agree with you re Digby Ioane, I forgot about him. I think you’ve misinterpreted me. I never actually blasted the wallabies for not giving a fuck (well, most of them. There’s another rant waiting about QC giving up and starting jogging after the charge-down), just for not looking like they did, if that makes sense. The scrum was good? Eesh, that I can’t agree with. I’ve been a big fan of Benny A’s play so far this try-nations, but as a former prop myself, I can tell you right now that for the majority of the second half he was infringing. I counted three collapsed scrums which were the result of him not chasing his feet up that we got away with. Also, I do think there were positives, I’ve already said that, the thing that really got me about this performance was that except for the period when we scored those two tries (and the defence when McCabe was carded) all the good work and play was undone by a multitude of cringe-worthy mistakes

    • http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/ Matt Rowley

      I think its pure guts from the team keeping them in these games. So much else seems to be going wrong.

      • Johnny-boy

        Nailed it Gagr. With our best players selected instead of holding the team back with a few romney plodders and a serious plan the Wallabies could be bloody good. It’s a crime by the ARU to be crippling this team with Deans.

        • Brax

          Injuries don’t help either Johnny Boy, but you conveniently over look such things in your blind hatred for Deans.

    • Johnny-boy

      Pat McCabe is a plodder. That’s why Deans likes him. Peas in a pod. Handy solid reliable bench utility at best

      • TerribleTowel

        um, about that, did you see him chase down one of the fastest Argie wingers and make a try saving tackle? Also he was clearly distributing outside of himself this match. I’d love to have his stats on his kick/pass/run to show that, but alas I do not. Finally, you remember the try yeah? the one that McCabe scored?

        • Pete

          Agree TT, McCabe played a blinder, he makes the XV on guts alone anyway.

        • johnny-boy

          Yeah I did see that try TT – the one that Cooper served up to him on a plate

    • RedSheep

      Paragraph breaks please mate, you lose everyone after the first line and they glance down to a great big block of text!

  • Pie Thrower

    I’m so confused right about now. On one hand I want to rant about the inept performance of the wallabies and how little skill they showed, but on the other, I’m worried I’ll get shouted down by Brax and co telling me I should be happy we won and we are number 2 in the world etc.

    Well fuck all that… Tonight was terrible. Fucking terrible. I dragged some league loving mates who live on the GC along and I couldn’t be more embarrassed. No skill. No structure. No plan. what did they see tonight to make them want to see more? Nothing. Same could be said for me.

    No idea what the problem is with us, but those that think the result is good enough are dillusional. We are rubbish.

    • bill

      I guess yo’re in trouble then, much better game structurally from us, execution needs a lift though.

    • Dave

      Don’t be too embarrassed. If they’re gold coast leaguies it’s not anything they haven’t seen before. Oh except for winning, that’s something that they wouldn’t be used to.

    • Brax

      Why are you singling me out to throw your pies at mate?
      Is it because I prefer to see the positive side of a game & would rather enjoy a game & be entertained than finding things to rubbish and whinge about?
      And when have I ever “shouted down” anyone…. just trying to add some balance to all the negativity around here.

      • danny

        Agreed. The most difficult job for the Wallabies last night was to fight back after having 2 quick tries scored against them after imperfect play. Look, we criticise the New Zealand team for cheating and the yaapies for playing dirty, poms for being boring, etc, etc, etc. We give it to our team for making mistakes, but that is the deal with being a Wallabies fan. Last night, I was impressed with the passion and that they found a way. A lot of teams wouldn’t.

  • mxyzptlk

    Aren’t the performances and relatives strengths/weaknesses of both the Wallabies and the Pumas a good argument for cutting Australia’s Super Rugby teams down by one or two, and introducing an Argentinian team into that tournament? The Argies have shown they belong at this level of competition, but need seasoning they’re not getting in the NH. And the better Wallabies are spread across too many fair-to-middling teams to really develop any edge.

    Concentrate the Wallabies across three teams to help develop some cohesiveness, so they don’t look like they don’t all speak the same language when it comes test time. Put some of the money saved by nixing two Super Rugby squads into a legit 3rd tier domestic competition so players don’t have to sharpen skills at test level. Get the Argies one or two Super Rugby teams to help them develop some stronger attacking strategies.

    In the end, you’d end up with better overall competition, and at least some second and third ranked teams that are so far behind first place they can barely make out the tail lights.

  • mxyzptlk

    Aren’t the performances and relatives strengths/weaknesses of both the Wallabies and the Pumas a good argument for cutting Australia’s Super Rugby teams down by one or two, and introducing an Argentinian team into that tournament? The Argies have shown they belong at this level of competition, but need seasoning they’re not getting in the NH. And the better Wallabies are spread across too many fair-to-middling teams to really develop any edge.

    Concentrate the Wallabies across three teams to help develop some cohesiveness, so they don’t look like they don’t all speak the same language when it comes test time. Put some of the money saved by nixing two Super Rugby squads into a legit 3rd tier domestic competition so players don’t have to sharpen skills at test level. Get the Argies one or two Super Rugby teams to help them develop some stronger attacking strategies.

    In the end, you’d end up with better overall competition, and at least some second and third ranked teams that aren’t so far behind first place they can barely make out the tail lights.

  • boutbloodytime

    The frustrating thing for me right now is that after watching the SA v NZ game, is that the ABs look decidedly beatable, and that was at home too…the Saffers kicked away so many tryscoring opportunities & probably should have put the ABs away…it was a lot closer game than on the scoreboard.

    Consequently, world champs or not, the ABs don’t appear to have the aura of invincibility about them currently & if the Wallabies can start playing with intelligence & execute their plays better, we’ll start racking up some far better performances against the ABs.

    That’s probably the biggest frustration currently…the new players being drafted into the Wallabies due to the injury list are generally stepping up & holding their own…it’s the guys like Cooper & Barnes (although I thought he played well at 15) who have played 30+ tests now, but seem to be lacking in tactical nous & don’t seem to be handling the pressure very well when it comes to decision making.

    Like has been said before by many others…the potential is definitely there, the determination to guts a win is there, now it’s time to lift the skill execution & decision making process (which is probably a deficiency at coaching/management level) & hunt down the ABs…as much as we look woeful at times, I really don’t think we are that far away from beginning to produce something special…

    C’mon Walabies!!!

    • skyeblue

      i’ve been waiting 10 years for something special bbt

      • boutbloodytime

        2010 was looking pretty special before the brain explosion to totally change the way we played going into the world cup….since then it’s pretty much all gone to shit! (and a fair few times before that too)…

        I guess what I’m saying SkyBlue is that with a bit of the rub of the green & someone who can construct & teach the players how to implement a coherent gameplan, add a bit of confidence to the mix & these guys will be firing.

        We’ve now won 4 games (2 Wales tests & the past 2 weeks) with guts & determination & also without a load of our best starting players…so the attitude in that respect is quite healthy.

        I don’t know if Deans is subconsciously conflicted when we play the ABs, is just clueless or truly believes they’re so far ahead of the rest (the SA v NZ game showed that they were not that special), but it seems that once we get the Bledisloe out of the way for another year that we start seeing some team selections that begin to make sense.

        With some proper coaching and/or clear communication, the Wallabies have a lot more to offer….

        Like you, I’ve been waiting for it all to come together for way too long…but I prefer to look at it this way…we’re number 2 in the world & for the most part playing terribly…what happens when we start playing properly???

  • bill

    We need to improve our midfield bombs on kick exchanges/returns, way too long, no pressure/contest/chase at the moment. As a fan I’d rather see us run it back, if we have the guys to do it and support it, but if u have to kick it, F*ing do it well.

  • RedAnt

    At least QC is having a go. Fuck knows we need to get back to some more threatening attack and QC did a lot of good things in that regard, mixed in, of course, with some pretty bad mistakes. I reckon something has happened between him and Deans – there’s definitely some bad blood there and it’s affecting his mindset. For Deans to come out publicly and say he wanted to hook him is wrong. As others have said, he needs time and support (ie. he needs to be shown some confidence) to get his own confidence and form back to where it was. He’ll always play a high-risk brand of footy, but he’ll win us far more games than he’ll lose us when in form – and it’ll be entertaining to watch! It would also help if we had some continuity in the backline – we had a new half-back (who I think played well btw), full-back, winger and centre combination. Hard for the attack to be on-song with all of that.

    • Pete

      Nonsense. QC gets cut so much more slack than anyone else in his position. If it was anyone else he’d be struggling to crack the bench if it wasn’t for injuries…

  • Queenslander

    it was frustrating to watch but the lads played with heart and I like that. The Argies threw themselves into their d and that was worth watching. I am no fan of McCabe as he is pretty one dimensional but no question he plays hard.

    When we keep the ball we look good but fair dinkum the box kick in both games tonight was a shocker. Why do the half backs stand at the back of the rucks and like shop Stewart’s are organizing the pigs etc, takes 2 minutes and then they kick the ball to the opposition. drives me crazy.

    Alsonhave a look at the Wallaby on the ground tackle the Agrie half back that allowed Phipps to squeak through for Diggers try. very lucky we were not penalized and game over.

    P.s. Deans still needs to go

  • mad italian flyhalf

    Do you realize the Wallabies are the only team that crossed Argentina’s try line 4 times in the same match?!

    2 were butchered but 2 have been scored! Something in the plan and gamestyle worked very well!

    • BloodRed

      3 out of those 4 created by Quade and the space for the 4th created by the defence moving to the open side to cover him, so……

      • Brax

        Exactly! The haters don’t see that ,as fumbley as he was on Saturday he still effectively won us the game. The haters, the doubters & the whingers just want to focus on the negatives, it’s a very unAustralian trait that’s creeping into our national psyche. I blame the education system, gen y & the internet
        :-p
        You’re turning into a bunch of Poms!

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