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Monday’s Rugby News

Monday’s Rugby News

Monday’s Rugby News celebrates the Wallaroos first win on home soil, provides an update surrounding the mugging of a Wallaby, recaps club and schoolboy rugby and farewells two Wallaby halves.


Wallaroos pre-game (Credit Keith McInnes)

The Wallaroos have claimed their first win on home soil, defeating Japan 34-5 in Newcastle.

In front of nearly 4,000 rapid fans, the Wallaroos ran in six tries to one, thanks to their debutants, who scored three of their six tries.

However, it was the work of Wallaroos captain Grace Hamilton and dual-code star Millie Boyle who secured the win, with Hamilton named player of the match with 36! carries for 120m and 22 tackles across the match.

“How good were Grace, Mille, we had Emily Chancellor there as well and then Shannon Mato came on as well and they make an impact,” coach Dwayne Nestor said after the win.”
“Our go-forward through those girls was outstanding.”

The Wallaroos took the lead early in the 5th minute, when hooker Avery Mithcell got her international career off to the perfect start, crossing over with one of her first touches of the game.

The Japanese responded after this moment, controlling the play for the next 30 minutes with the Aussies having to hold off waves of attack on their goal-line.

Their persistence in defence paid off up right before the half time whistle, when inside centre Ariana Hira-Herangi crossed for the first try of her career, with Samantha Treherne adding the extras to send them into the half-time break up 13-0.

From this moment, the flood gates opened up, with Western Australian team-mates Trilleen Pomare and Mhicca Carter finding the line to blow the lead out to 24-0 after half time.

The Japanese would eventually strike back, taking advantage of the Aussies being a woman down after Liz Patu was yellow carded, with Maiko Fujimoto crossing the line for their first (and only) points of the day.

However, tries to Eva Karpani and Treherne ensured the 34-5 win for the Wallaroos, who now take a 1-0 series lead heading into the next game in North Sydney.

“That first half was hard, we had to absorb a lot of pressure but I think it was laying the platform and when we went to set-piece…if we can go at that and be confident, the rest comes,” Hamilton said.

“We absorbed that pressure but we also dominated our attack. We just had a few loose carries but in that second half we came out firing and I think that showed in the second half.”

Wallaby mugged in Johannesburg

Sad Taniela Tupou  Reds v Rebels 2019

Wallaby and Reds prop Taniela Tupou has been mugged after a team dinner near their hotel in Sandton.

Tupou was out with the rest of the Front Row Brigade for dinner before his phone was stolen by someone walking past.

Initially, Tupou believed that he was just part of a classic stitch up from one of his team-mates.

“Last night went out for dinner with the front-rowers, it was just outside the hotel and I went back, someone came walking around and took my phone,’ Tupou said.

“I thought it was one of the boys so I looked back and he was wearing a hoodie and ran with my phone,” he remarked.

When he realised that he had been robbed, he chased down the mugger, who had already gotten into their getaway vehicle at this stage.

Tupou sustained some minor cuts to his arm after attempting to reach into the car and grab the phone out.

“I tried to chase after him, he got in the car and I got a bit of a cut but I’m fine. The only thing is I lost my phone but I can live with that.”

Rugby Australia released a statement Sunday evening, confirming the incident.

“Tupou had been with the eight other front-rowers for an organised dinner across the road from the hotel. They were walking back at approximately 9.15pm local time when a man snatched his mobile phone before running away to get into a waiting vehicle,” the statement read.

“Tupou thought it was one of his teammates. When he realised he didn’t know the person, he gave chase and tried to grab it out of the car and suffered some minor cuts to his arm.”

“Local police attended and took statements from all the players and believe it was part of a series of incidents that night. Tupou was the only player involved in the incident.”

Rugby Wrap

NSW Schools at 2019 Australian Rugby Championships (Photo Credit SPA Images)

Firstly, we check in on the Australian School Championships where NSW I have taken out the boys championship.

The side dominated QLD I 58-5 in the final to secure the championship, whilst ACT finished third overall beating the Combined States 36-7.

In the women’s final, Sydney continued the dominate weekend for the Premier State, defeating NSW Country 46-5 in the all-NSW final.

Heading to clubland, Shute Shield for Round 15 witnessed Sydney Uni overcome Easts 22-12 thanks to a Jake Gordon double, Eastwood hold off a valiant Gordon 39-24, Manly dent Southern Districts finals hopes with a 30-19 win, Warringah maintain top spot defeating West Harbour 57-29 and Randwick were too strong for Western Sydney 26-13.

In the Hospital Challenge Cup up in the sunshine state, GPS just held off Sunnybank 27-20, Wests overwhelmed Bond Uni 37-12, Easts took care of Norths 35-26 and in the upset of the round, Queensland Uni knocked off top-placed Brothers 36-35.

The John I Dent Cup saw Uni Norths outgun Queanbeyan 50-27, Royals dominate Easts 71-14 and Gungahlin flexed their muscles with a 47-12 win over Wests.

In round 11 of the Dewer Shield, Harlequins destroyed Footscray 112-0, Powerhouse held on a nailbiting 26-24 win over Moorabbin, Melbourne was too strong for Endeavour 64-7 and Box Hill outgunned Melbourne Uni 33-15.

Finally, in the west, the Premiership Division saw Wests hold off Cottesloe 34-27, Nedlands outgunned Associates 53-17, UWA overcome Wanneroo 15-12 whilst in the Championship division, Joondalup dominated Curtin Uni 47-12, Coastal beat Bayswater 41-32, Palmyra outgunned Southern Lions 46-26 and Kalamunda account for ARKS 41-34

Wallabies split in halves

Will Genia eyes a gap Waratahs v Rebels 2019 (Credit Keith McInnes)

Wallabies and outgoing Rebels halfback Will Genia has announced his retirement from international rugby at the conclusion of the 2019 Rugby World Cup.

Whilst Genia would still be available for selection via Giteau’s law, he believed that it’s the right time to step down and let the next generation of Australian scrum-half come through.

“I feel like I’m leaving at the right time because there’s a whole bunch of young players who are coming through who are very, very good and some experienced ones as well with Nic (White) and Joey (Powell) who’s had a couple of Tests as well,” Genia said in a statement.

“I’m really looking forward to seeing the guys come through next year, especially the two young Queensland Reds boys (Tate McDermott and Moses Sorovi).”

Genia has been a stalwart of Australian rugby, having the honour of being just the tenth Australian to accrue 100 caps for the Wallabies and the second halfback to do so after George Gregan.

The news of Genia’s departure comes after his Wallabies halves partner Bernard Foley announced his intentions to pursue opportunities overseas on Friday.

Whilst Foley didn’t elaborate on his next destination, it has been speculated that he is set to join Genia and Quade Cooper in the Japanese Top League.

Foley was humbled at the opportunities that the Waratahs had provided him, including winning the 2014 Super Rugby title with a game-winning penalty against the Crusaders.

“The Waratahs gave me my first opportunity at professional rugby and I’ve grown so much as a player and a person during my time here, playing with some of the game’s greats and making friendships that will last a lifetime,” Foley said.

“It’s been a privilege to represent this great state and my family and friends. I’d like to thank the coaches who have supported me and the teammates I’ve played with over the years.

NSWRU GM of Rugby Tim Rapp thanked Foley for his loyal years at the club stating “He’s been a consistent performer at the highest level for a long period, and ultimately his numbers speak for themselves – he’s achieved a lot of great things for the Waratahs and we certainly appreciate that.”

  • sambo6

    Ballsy mugger to snatch off a group of 8 walllaby front rowers….

    Unless it was another classic Cheika motivational ploy (a la the golf clubs…and ‘teeing off’) to teach the guys a lesson…something along the lines of ‘don’t let these saffas mug you off’……

    • Geoffro

      lucky they didnt catch him and create headlines ie; aussie players bash Joburg local.

    • Sevenwithasixonmyback

      The mugger did wait until after dinner, where each of the players had consumed half a roebuck, two metres of boerwors, three chickens, a kilo of jacket potatoes, 6 corn cobs and for dessert a couple of braaibroodjies. A tad sluggish perhaps.
      At least he stayed on his feet as he grappled for his phone. Bodes well for our breakdown. Did come in from the side, though…

      • Brisneyland Local

        Pure gold!

    • Yowie

      “Tupou had been with the eight other front-rowers for an organised dinner across the road from the hotel. They were walking back at approximately 9.15pm local time when…

      See what happens when players go to a nearby venue for a sensible night out and come back to the hotel early!

      James O’Connor’s influence on the squad’s after-hours arrangements can’t come soon enough in my opinion.

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Thanks Nathan,

    A good game for the Wallaroos and no doubt this will build nicely to the games later in the year. Some great tries in that game and good passing with the ball to create space.

    SA also means Situational Awareness and Tupou needs to wake up when he’s walking around. Needs to bring this into his game too. Glad he’s not hurt as it could have got nasty with those guys usually carrying weapons as well.

    Good luck to those guys leaving, I just hope there is a focus on developing the next players rather than try and look at a code swap or the next best thing to solve all the issues. I read somewhere that the Tahs are looking at some code hopping league player but I hope it’s bullshit

    • Who?

      The article I read, it sounded like the Eel/Leaguie was the one looking to go to Rugby, rather than him being chased. His statements read really well – he’s sick of going to the Bledisloe and losing, he wants to work hard and bring whatever he can to the Tahs and hopes to eventuallymake the Wallabies. Read well. I know nothing of him, though.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Yeah mate and I’m about 5 years if he builds and learns he might be good enough. I can see him parachuted in though as that’s just what’s done here for some reason

        • Crescent

          The player in question is Tepai Moeroa – who played for Australian Schoolboys and Sevens in 2012/13 before signing over to mungo ball – so at least has some decent roots in the game. Has played both league and rugby as a junior. That said, dropped to reserve grade by Parramatta this year, so who would blame him for looking at the Tahs – where he won’t get dropped for lack of performance……

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Mate, how many times have we heard over the last few years that this guy or that guy played rugby as a youngster but went to league and can come across now and will fit right in. None of them have done that, they’ve all been crap and needed time to get back into the game. I’d suggest none of them are there yet as none of them yet have developed the instinctive skills that come with years of playing rugby. But still we go on and pick them and then they fail time after time. It’d be a joke if it wasn’t so sad for rugby here

        • Crescent

          I hear you – I have not been a fan of the league experiments, but when we bleed these guys hand over fist from juniors, who can blame them for looking to come back when the league dream doesn’t work out. Let’s face it – we keep on giving them a contracts and a fast track to look at a gold jersey even when they are not really ready as a club or super level player, so we continue to reap what we sow as a code.

          And thanks to general ineptitude in Tah land, they are effectively looking at these kind of players as “options” to make up for lack of any visible recruitment/retention/development strategy effectively since 2014. We are looking at cross code hopefuls and returning old players to try and paper over the cracks. If I really want to get feisty, just need to consider this is another kid out of Greater Western Sydney, who would not have popped up on rugby’s radar if he hadn’t gone to Newington College, because apparently Western Sydney is full of dragons and things our Eastern Suburbs Masters are allergic to, giving league and AFL a free run to identify the juniors and get them inside their systems nice and early.

        • UTG

          It amazes me that as a Kiwi rugby lover you can say this when two of your leading candidates for inside centre, Ngani Laumape and SBW, both came from League and were making waves in Union almost within a year of signing.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          No mate it took a lot longer.
          SBW spent a couple of years in France then came back and while he was in the Crusaders he was not starting straight away. He also took a few years to cement his place in the Abs and only after he proved himself. I still remember that halfwit Mundine going on about him not being picked to start and then SBW being told not to ever invite him into the changing rooms after a game again. Luamape also took a few years to cement his place in the Canes and is still not really cementing himself in the ABs. Compare that with guys over here like Korobeti and you see the difference

        • UTG

          Please, SBW was offered the largest ever Rugby Union contract at Toulon little over a year after joining and the French 12 jersey for the 2011 WC both of which he rejected. He made the AB side without even playing for a Super side in 2010. Laumape debuted for the ABs one year after making his debut for the ‘Canes. Neither of these two were ‘crap’ and they hardly took any time to get back into the game as you originally claimed.

          There’s nothing wrong with signing talent from League. Edge forwards in League play very similar roles to inside centres and it wouldn’t surpise me if Tepai’s name is being thrown around for a Wallaby spot within a year of him coming to Union.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          we’re olbviously going to disagree then. Happy with that

        • UTG

          Fair enough.

        • Brumby Runner

          Tom Wright certainly hasn’t yet fully assimilated back to rugby, but he hasn’t failed either. His performances have improved over the year and he is now at least at super rugby standard. But one example to the contrary doesn’t necessarily disprove the general proposition I suppose.

        • UTG

          There are many examples to the contrary; Laumape, SBW, Folau, Koroibete, Hunt etc.

        • Geoffro

          Wright is a good example and he’s come back at a young age.Think he’ll go well

        • IIPA

          Holds the record for schoolboy caps along with Cooper and Beale. Would hurt to try and sign Joey Lussick from the same very good Newington team back from the dark side either.

          Should be a good Super rugby 9 or 10 instead playing hooker for Salford….

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Hardly a great comparison when you look at the weaknesses in both their games

        • juswal

          Get lost, troll.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Dream on cry baby

        • Hoss

          Being considered at 13 for the Tah’s – which would also suggest Mr Hunt is not around next year either ?

        • Nutta

          I would say he stayed in Oz rugby to go to the Bill. I get that as both an aspiration but also to enhance your trade value. But injury means he has missed that train. So I would say he is heading north as soon as he gets Dr Nic to sign a clearance he is fit. He’s only got a few years left (tops) to make any coin.

        • Hoss

          I can never begrudge anyone for wanting to put coin in the bank and food on the table. I’ve said to many of the team over the years ‘if its the right decision for you and your family, nothing else matters.’

        • UTG

          I assume IIPA was talking about Lussick playing 9 or 10 for Salford. Tepai will most likely play 12 for the Tahs I’d think with Foketi at 13.

        • IIPA

          Yeah Moeroa was a big schoolboy centre ( and state shotput champion ).

          Lussick was in same team and after flirting between Roosters and Sea Eagles out of school has been playing dummy half last two years for Salford.

        • UTG

          I remember that Newignton team well, Taane Milne was pretty handy at outside as well.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Be interesting if he is. I thought he was better than AAC despite still struggling in defence. Pity he got injured when he did

        • John Miller

          Seems RA is topping up his Tahs salary KRL. There must be some indication of intent in that?

      • juswal

        I read the same article, I think. He gets five stars for the heartfelt+professional attitude, if those words were his own.

  • Sevenwithasixonmyback

    Thought Grace Hamilton played a top captain’s knock on Saturday. Led by great example.

    • Hoss

      Spot on mate. i was lucky to be there in a howling westerly and Grace was monumental. I haven’t seen the stats, but she must have had over 30 hit-ups and tackled the house down. The Japanese girls were awesome and the scoreboard did them a disservice. Some of the D was colossal, the hits huge, the skill-sets were terrific and it was played in a great atmosphere. Got there early and caught the Ladies NZ Defence forces v Ours – missed the kick-off, but on the wind i could here the Haka about 500 metres away (where i parked) and it was spine tingling. terrific day, but the wind, sheeeeee-it. I have a fair bit of ‘surface area’ and i felt like i was gonna be lifted away.

      • IIPA

        Friday night return at North Sydney Oval will be interesting and great if they could get 4-5K again.

        Might not, in part due to lack of a genuine competition. Don’t get me wrong I thought the Japanese girls were great, tactics spot on and probably struggled more with the wind. I’m a huge fan of Asian rugby. But I look at the backline we had, the size difference and the number of times players like Mahalia Murphy and Fakaosilea coughed up the ball and gee if we are more fluid on Friday it should be 50-60+.

        • Hoss

          The size difference was substantial but the Sakura were all heart and what they lacked in size that accommodated in technical nous, desire and tactics. Not a bad day except the wind it was 80-90km’s all day. They had jumping castles and stuff for the kids, i still dont know how some kids blown out off the coast – it was ripping. 90% of the crowd were on the eastern side to sit in the sun but in the full face of the wind. Didn’t detract from a good game & day though. Great to see 4k there, good atmosphere, decent rugby and no negativity at all, just people loving the game and the opportunity to support our girls in gold against a noble opponent

      • Geoffro

        What about the K train.Pretty fleet footed for someone with a bit of surface area.Her hand off dont argue to set up the last try was my favorite of the highlight reels

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Who won the defence force game

        • Hoss

          41 Zip – Darkness

  • Brisneyland Local

    Interesting to see there wasn’t a mention of the Fiji vs Maori All Blacks. First time fiji have beaten them since 1957. Make sure you go on line and have a look at it.
    If I were Nathan Grey I would be very very worried.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Great game and they are looking very good

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yep. They are not the easy beats of yesteryear. They almost (read should of except for that poor umpiring decision) beat us last year. I dont have a comfortable feeling about this game. John McKee has done a lot of work with this team.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          I think it’ll certainly be a close one. I guess the smart move might be to go for broke on this one, accept the Welsh will win the theirs so use that as trial for some of the players and then make sure you beat the other 2. That way you could get through as 2nd placed team.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I think you are 100% right.

        • Damo

          Yes mate. McKee is clearly adding discipline to that famed rugby instinct. Cheika should be very worried. #8 Viliame Mata is a monster.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          He is huge. Can run and pass and by hell imagine being hit in a tackle by him. I’d probably snap in half

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yep. And the Volavola is gold.

      • Hoss

        You see the cricket mate !!! Jesus H. I went to bed after the Black Caps knock and thought the Dodgers would win with about 15 overs to go, the awoke too…………………wow, what a contest. And then Fed v that Serbian Twat (cant stand the prick) and realise the Fed let 2 Championship points slip at 8-7, 40-15 and serving in the fifth.

        The impossible does happen in sport mate…………… should be nervous and besides that, we are paying $8.50 to make the final and lose & $15 to win. May have started the day with a monkey split across those odds.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Didn’t stay up but wished I had. Game looked awesome and what a finish. Both teams had their chances and well done England for making the most of theirs.

          Throwing money away mate. They are high odds because of the unexpected and unlikely

        • Hoss

          ‘we learn from experience that men never learns anything from experience’

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement

    • Hoss

      Watched the recording of it on Saturday nite mate. Got home from Disney On ice – it was so saccharine I reckon i developed diabetes during the show.Although i did try and buy my wife one or two of the Disney Princess outfits for later on.

      I sat there grinning like a Cheshire cat watching the Fijians play – man they are pure joy and the hands !!! Whilst improved i dont know that their fitness, especially in the tight 5 will get them past us in the RWC, but your right, underestimate them at your own peril and its 25 nil after 15 minutes and goodnight nurse.

      Looking forward to the rest of the year. Wallaby Flag & Southern Cross already flying off the first floor balcony at home.

      Thus begineth the year of the Gold.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yep, their fitness is still an issue but is improving. And they have hands the size of dinner plates. And some of our backs are just going to bounce off them. infact some of our forwards are going to bounce off them.

    • Bernie Chan

      BL…was in Japan due to work, but saw the highlights package. What a cracking game by Fiji.
      You are spot on…Nathan Grey and his defence ( an unkind man would ask “what defence…?”) should be worried. If the Fiji pack wins some ball, their backs could really hurt us…Not sure that the Wallas will be short priced favourites…

      • Brisneyland Local

        Fitness is the only difference. But they will put 15-20 points on you inside 20 mins and then it is catch up rugby the whole way.

        • Bernie Chan

          Yep…that’s a fact!
          Boy, that new Fiji fullback has some ‘wheels’…

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yep. serious gas. The MAB are no slouches either. I think John McKee has done a great job with them, and I have some serious concerns about our first match with them.

        • Bernie Chan

          I doubt that you’re “Robinson Crusoe”…there are likely to be many Oz rugby fans who are approaching the RWC with some trepidation. The Fiji win over the MAB (took me a while…but I got it!) should have gained some attention (though Cheika doesn’t watch the opposition…their tactics don’t matter apparently…!).

        • Brisneyland Local

          Their forwards are so big and agile. In fact their backs are the size of our forwards and very very agile.

    • Missing Link

      no worries, Grey has a system, and remember, if the system doesn’t work, it’s not because it’s broken, it’s because the players didn’t execute it correctly :)

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        I’m cringing reading this because you just know it’ll be said

      • Brisneyland Local

        Hence my concern!

  • Nutta

    Somebody mugging Tupou among a group of 8 props. That’s gotta be a ‘Hold my beer…’ dare. It’s a new spin on the running of the bulls surely – right time of year and even the right approximate longitude (sort of), just the wrong hemisphere.

    There is much gnashing of teeth and rending of garments over the departure of players to the north. I’m going to say something harsh here, but I feel it is both the truth and necessary to acknowledge; to me this is inevitably part of generational change that happens every world cup. But it’s a bit heavier than usual this time because of 2 factors:

    Firstly the market is maturing in that since professionalism (near 25yrs now since 1996) we have seen the professional market grow and fluctuate quickly to a point it is now mature and not so much a risk for the player. Paths are worn-in meaning the commercial and cultural risk elements inherent in the past are lessened. This makes such a move less risky than ever before thus more attractive to invest in.

    Secondly, we are seeing a generational change among a generation of players that didn’t win much when compared to the expectations. So I’m not surprised they are not hanging about. This is not a singular criticism of those players individually, but as a collective we must surely recognise this batch of Wobblies did not deliver what we the rugby public expected (Bills, Bleds, Lions, Super titles etc). As such, no-one is really hanging around the fire to enjoy back-slaps and legend status because they probably feel they don’t have it. It is to be expected.

    Again I say this is not a nasty comment at those players in isolation. There have been many cooks to this pie going all the way back to JON and beyond. I’m not going to re-hash all that here now but beyond the re-emergence of a little pride in Aussie scrummage in the last 5yrs, not much else has happened since the world caught on/up and we were handed our arses back in ’07. Certainly since ’11 there are no absolute timeless Wobbly legends within this mob that I can instantaneously think of or who would make an All-Time Wobbly XV except for maybe Pocock and perhaps Vickerman. And in terms of the quality of our rugby-smarts I think we have clearly seen a bloody detraction and certainly no development.

    And also to be fair the expectations of we the Punters are hardly blameless either in the expectations we have heaped on our national team. From a small nation (comparatively), we have expected our 12th largest sport to stay at the top of one of the biggest and richest sports in the world? And to do so in-spite of the simple truth we continue to allow it to be ripped and torn between myopic, incestuous micro-post-code and blue-blood elitist interests? More fool us. What did WE expect as the shareholders and guardians of our game?

    So on to the new generation. They are there. We saw that at the U20’s Bill. And despite the stupidity, insularity and seemingly willful disregard for what even Blind Freddy can see is in the best interests of our game, there will be a new batch come through. But I fear for what they may become because I know we have not developed the infrastructure to nuture the talent into success. To be clear here I specify:
    * Outright unwillingness to grow the boys game – truthfully grow it – beyond the reservations of the private school.
    * Outright unwillingness to grow the game in lower socio-economic areas (eg the deliberate prevention TwiggyBall into Western Sydney)
    * Outright unwillingness to commit to and develop a proper 3rd tier in which to develop and warehouse player depth (NRC)
    * Outright unwillingness to support top-flight rugby nationwide (do I have to remind everyone again that NSW & Qld won Super titles with 5 national franchises in the pot?)

    So onwards we go. And to the new generation I say ‘Welcome” and will support you as best I can. But at the same time I acknowledge I have less to offer you than in the past and in-fact we have a shrinking footprint to offer them overall.

    But I’m sure they will train well.

    • Funk

      8 props will quickly turn into 8 wingers when one bullet is fired…whilst I commend Tupou for trying to get his phone back he is very lucky just to have got a few minor cuts, guns are rife in SA and they aren’t afraid to use them.

      • Nutta

        I’m being a bit tongue in cheek. 8 anythings will turn into 8 wingers when a bullet is fired. I well acknowledge it generally only takes 6.5lbs to pull a trigger and the average 2yr old can exert enough force to do that. And 8 props will also turn into 8 whingers when someone takes the Buffalo Wings off the bar as well.

        • Funk

          Haha yeah I know. I’ve been to a fair few countries around the world and into the pubs and bars in all of them and SA is still the only place I’ve been to, that there was a sign on the door of the pub saying “no hand guns allowed” (I assumed that rifles were still ok?)!!!

        • Yowie

          Choppa’s sawn-off shotgun down the trousers might fall into a grey area too.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Generally what happens from my experience when that first shot is fired, everyone one goes “What the fuck was that?” Then people realise what it was, and discover that adrenaline is brown and runs down the inside leg of their trousers! Then they switch on , then panic, then run. And this can take anywhere from 3 secs to 15 secs depending on the speed of their brain and the realisation.

        • Ads

          run down crawl observe aim fire!

        • Brisneyland Local

          YEah I always found that worked well in training til the first time. After the 5th time I was a pro at it!

      • Geoffro

        His sense/awareness in chasing the guy down when as you say he could be running into a whole lot of grief matches his awareness that you dont go waving (expensive?) items about in certain destinations.Do these guys get briefed or just left to find out themselves.A bit of a ohs/hsr thing isn’t it ?

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Mate that’s a great summary of where rugby needs to go over here. Unfortunately the same “myopic, incestuous micro-post-code and blue-blood elitist interests” will see the enthusiasm and joy of these players coming through drain away in the crap that just can’t face up to the reality of modern rugby.

      I think the trail of those underperforming players into japan and elsewhere will be interesting. TBH I wouldn’t take a lot of them if I was running a team overseas as the lack of results, ability to improve and a sense of entitlement that a lot of them demonstrate isn’t something I’d want to bring in. I think a few of them are going to get a huge wake up call when they go to an organisation that expects results, improvement, learning from mistakes and no entitlement. The next few years will be interesting to watch

      • Geoffro

        dissapointing if most these guys dont give their respective new clubs a boost.Genia and Cooper joining a second tier Japanese team FFS and a few guys off to London Irish who are just getting promoted from the second division.Our best performing player (Arnold) is going to the best performing team (Toulouse) but the rest bar a couple are joining also rans.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          I hope they do to mate. I just think some are going to get a wake up call

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    hahahaha the boxer of course.

  • Nicholas Wasiliev

    I could get used to watching more Wallaroos games in honesty.

    Saturday afternoon was an absolute joy on watch: enthusiastic crowd, great vibe, and a team that took the opportunity by the scruff of the neck. So much passion and potential in that Wallaroos outfit! They need more game time opportunities, and I hope RA persist with giving them their own series every year.

    Considering in their entire history they’ve only played 50-odd tests, that team showed that with more game time, they could really become something special! Up the Wallaroos!

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      I’m getting a real buzz with women’s rugby. &’s is great and now the 15’s are really stepping up as well. Good skills, good intent and some great play

      • Nutta

        Yeh but I get it on good authority there is a shift in focus of talent especially among younger/fringe players from the SuperW 15’s set-up to the AON7’s circuit mostly driven around better off-field support especially in-terms of medical etc. My mail is that if you get hurt in SuperW you’re basically on your own whereas if you’re hurt in AON7’s the network basically gets you into the right folk quick-smart. Throw in clearly better travel and accommodation arrangements etc and in the absence of serious cash, I can tell which comp I would rather be playing in.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          That’s a shame if it’s true. Understandable though

  • joy

    Tupou should have lifted the car’s back wheels off the ground and whistled in the rest of the pack.


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