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Monday’s Rugby News has the Super quarters draw, the Force getting support from a gorillionaire, Daryl Gibson sounding a bit lost, and the Knob King, Alan Jones.


Super Done

Super Rugby trophy

Well, the Super Rugby regular season is done. What a ripper of a season hey! Remember when the Sharks lost to the Reds, and when the Waratahs lost to the Kings, and when the Waratahs lost to the Jaguares, and when the Force beat the Jaguares, and when the Waratahs lost to the Force? Whoa.

The Crusaders were one game away from an undefeated season, but not only did their loss to the Hurricanes break their streak, it also relegated them to 2nd place.

That means the Lions came first, and will now have home advantage all the way to the grand final – if they get there.

The Brumbies, with 6 wins from 15 games, will face the Hurricanes (12 wins). Brilliant stuff this Super Rugby.

Here are the quarterfinals (all times ECE time):

Fridi 7:45 – Brumbies (4th) v Hurricanes (5th)

Satdi 5:30 – Crusaders (2nd) v Highlanders (7th)

Satdi 10:30 – Lions (1st) v Sharks (8th)

Sundi 1:00 – Stormers (3rd) v Chiefs (6th)

And for what it’s worth, here’s the Australian conference.

super 2

Twiggy Gets Jiggy

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Andrew ‘Twiggy’ Forrest, the bloke who came up with the brilliant idea to dig shit out of the ground and flog it to the Chinese, has come up with another brilliant idea – he’s going to back the Force!

Forrest addressed the Force players after their 40-11 win over the Waratahs, while the team was in a post-match huddle on the field, vaguely saying words to the effect that’ll he support the Force’s fight to stay in Super by any means.

While it’s a bit hard to find the exact words he said post-game to post for youse, here’s what he said when rugby.com.au caught up with him:

“The people of Western Australia are determined to keep the Western Force in Western Australia,” Forrest said. “We’re not here just to survive, we’re here to really succeed.

“I stand completely with and behind Western Australia to keep the Western Force thriving, not surviving, absolutely thriving in Western Australia and in the national rugby scene.”

When asked what ‘standing completely behind the Western Force’ meant, Forrest replied:

“The full spectrum of support,” he said.

“It’s not just me, it’s people who support me, who I support right across the broad spectrum of Western Australia, who are proud of the Western Force, proud of what’s been achieved, recognise that we can be so much better and are not going to let us be snuffed out when we’re just starting to excel.”

Part of the reason Forrest has decided to back the Force (at the last minute) is because of his love for rugby [is this true? can anyone verify?]:

“I love the game, I love the community-building spirit,” he said. “I love the fact it adds diversity of sport in Western Australia. I particularly respect the collegiality which rugby brings to any community it’s part of.”

Waratahs the Brave

Photo courtesy of Keith McInnes

Photo courtesy of Keith McInnes

Tahs coach Daryl Gibson has insisted his team didn’t roll over during their huge loss against the Force, despite evidence to the contrary.

“It’s fair to say we’re pretty low,” Gibson told the SMH. “It’s been a season of lows and to finish off in that manner is incredibly disappointing. Credit to the Force, they played better wet weather rugby [despite living next to a desert] and thoroughly deserved their win. They showed a lot of fight and desire.

“I don’t think we’d ever put up the white flag but certainly that losing spiral is a difficult one to break. They played excellent and deserved their win.”

Gibson who take on a dual role as backs coach next year, as the Waratahs don’t have enough money to move him on and hire an extra coach. Michael Hooper, being 1 of only 4 or 5 senior Waratahs who gives a shit is mad too.

“It’s unfortunate that you have to have a season like this but within this season I can say that young players, 22-24 range will learn a hell of a lot,” the man who has a nuclear power plant for a heart told rugby.com.au.

“I know I’ve learned a hell of a lot and we won’t be back here (playing poorly, not Perth) again.”

Furthermore Hooper reckons the Waratahs can be good next year.

“We’ve got the playing group to do it, we’ve got the coaches to do it, I think the desire after a season like this couldn’t be stronger,” he said.

“I wish I was going straight into another season and can look at how we can get better straight away. I wish we were playing next week to make amends.”

Return of the Jones

alan jones

The Daily Telegraph is bouncing up and down with its exclusive news that Alan Jones is set to coach the Barbarians when the invitational club plays the Wallabies later this year.

Except that no one’s really excited and this is a really, really bad idea.

“But undoubtedly the most mouth-watering part will be the prospect of Jones going head-to-head with current Wallabies coach Michael Cheika,” toots the report.

Hey, remember when Jones likened Lebanese-Australians to “vermin” during the Cronulla Riots? Haha, what a great guy! Wonder how Cheika, son of Lebanese immigrants, feels about that.

But I digress. This is about the rugby, and not about Jones. And Jones is back for the rugby, and he’s not here because, for the sake of argument, he has some constant demand to be the centre of attention.

“I have a commitment from them firstly that it was a serious affair,” Jones said, probably very loudly. “I would want the game to be a serious match. We are playing the Wallabies.”

The game is set to take place at Allianz Stadium on 28 October, one week before the Wallabies go to Brisbane to play the 3rd Bledisloe and from then on, their European tour.

On top of that, the organisers of the game – TLA Worldwide – have a short little poll over here. You can vote for things like the kickoff time, the half-time entertainment, and which club player you want to play for the Barbarians.

If you wanna hear Alan Jones crap on about himself, here’s the article.


  • Pfitzy

    Yeah, nah. No idea what the Baabaas are thinking there.

    As for Jones: jog on, dickhead.

    • first time long time

      I think it’s pronounced “yog on” the j is silent.

    • PJ

      Alan will be a happy, he gets to be in a change room again with young, strong fit men.

      • Keith Butler

        Ouch!

        • Brumby Runner

          Was that one of the said men speaking?

  • Wallabrumby

    “Credit to the Force, they played better wet weather rugby [despite living next to a desert]…..” too good!
    Funny how Sydney has the highest annual rainfall of all the major capital cities and yet historically no fancies the Waratahs to be any good at wet weather rugby.

  • Arty

    Wonder if the Tahs got paid for that. I suppose they had little to play for. Not even the Jersey, the History, the Fans, the Sponsors, the State, Themselves.

  • formerflanker

    Yeah I get it, you hate Alan Jones. Quite viciously.
    There is another way of looking at the Barbarians game though. Jones has the opportunity to put into practice what a lot of rugby fans want. He could select un-wanted Force players, Shute Shield/Premier Rugby standouts, or international stars who excel at running rugby. Jones may implement a game plan that is a winning one that also excites fans and points the way forward for the Wallabies.
    Having some Australian players not selected for Wallaby duty facing off against the preferred players would settle a lot of arguments.

    • joy

      Lets face it he just hates.

      • Adrian

        Who? Jones or Nick Hartman?

        • joy

          Both

        • Adrian

          Na..I like Nick ☺️

        • BigNickHartman

          On an entirely unrelated note, I like you too Adrian

        • joey

          Nick is the greatest thing this site has had since… well this site.

          The morning GOTL (Giggling on the lounge) has become a fixture of the household

        • Who?

          What?
          :-P
          Great post. :-D

      • BigNickHartman

        Wrong, I don’t hate blimps

    • Brumby Runner

      I seem to remember Jones had a few favourites of his own when he coached the Wallabies. Didn’t appear that he always selected on form.

    • Pfitzy

      Don’t think its hate – more a “please STFU up Alan and stick to your blathering on the radio where you can’t even criticise politicians with any coherence or accuracy.”

      Hey… Wait a sec…
      Defending Jones while romanticising about the game plan he COULD implement, despite decades out of the game
      Handle is “formerflanker”

      Is that you, Poido?

      • formerflanker

        No, not Poido but like many back rowers I did dream of being that good one day. The reality of being a slow old useless player prevented that from happening.

        • Pfitzy

          Ah yes – got me, too.

    • McWarren

      But why Jones, why not Wessel’s or Cron or an up and comer. The appointment of Jones smells like the ARU appeasing or trying to win over one of its harshest tantrum throwers. It certainly looks to be another jobs for the in crowd to those looking in from afar.

      We need to encourage new coaches as much as unwanted or undiscovered players.

      Jones is a divisive and selfish individual who I fear will do more harm than good.

  • Arty

    When after about 10 minutes the Force failed to find touch from a penalty kick with no chasers. Big TN decided not to run back at them full pelt, even though he had time to really build up pace, instead he threw the pass back to Foley who made ten metres. That was coached! Game over.

    • Bobas

      The only thing I saw TN do was tackle Horne.

  • onlinesideline

    whatchya say – Super done ? – as in done and dusted for good ? – brilliant.

    cant wait for the trans tasman to start.

    When I know all the teams, where the hell they are bloody from and a comp with a beginning, middle and end, same start dates year in and year out, uninterrupted by these inane June tests, then I will gladly jump on the plane to go to say a match at the Glasshouse for the weekend or Christchurch or wherever, enjoying a comp I can follow, which is uncomplicated and one I can identify with.

    The prospects of a trans tasman comp is mouth watering.

    The money will always follow a good comp – they’ll come running – you watch.

    Those players wanting a bigger paycheck BAAA BYEEEE – you were never the ones that played the best rugby anyhow !

    • TheNutorious

      The dream.

  • Adrian

    Let’s hope Twiggy Forest is a more reliable sponsor than Clive Palmer and Nathan Tinkner …or whatever his name was

    • Arty

      First I knew he was a Rugby supporter when he had the floor in the post game huddle.
      Very odd development.

      • onlinesideline

        He’s a class act and doesnt back down – the ARU must have had an extra long brunch in Mosman this morning, extra salmon for sure.

        • Adrian

          He might know something we don’t…. courtesy of his business connections at ARU land.

          Like Rebels are already “gone”, or no teams are going, and we’ll have a 16 team SR.

        • TheNutorious

          Or, if we are lucky and the stars align, a 10 team ANZ competition!

        • joy

          Correct

      • Adrian

        Everyone seems to see him as a saviour.
        Has much more cash than Palmer or Tinkner.
        Might just buy Rebels and amalgamate them with Force

        • Arty

          Fortescue Force??

        • Adrian

          Spot on

      • Andrew Miller

        FMG have been sponsors for a few years

      • Gottsy

        The FMG logos that have been on the force jumpers for the last few years is his company. (Fortescue Metals Group)

    • joy

      Tinkler

  • J A R

    Awesome. I love the idea that Gibson will take on more responsibility. Presumably there will be less for him to worry about now the defence coach has gone!
    Maybe Twiggy is considering a move into Politics? Seems pretty late to jump on board if he has always loved the game etc etc.

    • joy

      No way would Twiggy or anybody worth that much enter politics. It’s not only the game he treasures, it’s the fight.

      • Nick

        Malcolm Turnbull was worth a bit before he entered politics.

    • Perth girl

      Please read the posting from Brisneyland Local for correct info on Twiggy Forrest

  • joy

    Forrest

  • Adrian

    Wondering whether one morning we’ll read that coach has “thought it over” and decided to jump.

    He’s more likely to say that, than bullshit about his family, because, I think he’s a decent bloke, not used to Australian slackness

  • Adrian

    With the exception of the Force, all Australian SR sides are either poorly coached, or composed of moronic players,…or perhaps both.

    Ok Brumbies are fairly poorly coached, and/or fairly moronic

    • Pedro

      The brumbies have one of the best defenses in the comp. Their attack isn’t brilliant but their set piece is also handy.

    • Nicholas

      While I agree in general, there are some positives this season.

      For all the defence problems that the reds have, Stiles has made a number of improves. We arent dropping the ball as often, scoring more points, and a few others. So there is some progress, if we dont improve next season however that is another story.

      The brumbies may be one dimensional but they also dont play poor in that dimension, its just very predictable. I think its a lack of two ways to play that is their issue.

      Tahs Rebels, moments of being ok. But you are 100% right about them.

      • Adrian

        Agree Nicholas, there are positives.

        I’m not usually that negative. I just got frustrated!

        A positive I harp on occasionally is that whilst the SR teams are out of form, some key players have just got into form, such as Coleman, Hunt etc, so it’s possible (not probable though) we’ll go ok in RC

        • McWarren

          Possible only if the form players are picked, probable that they won’t be.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Or display a very poor culture that has permeated its way throughout some of the teams brought on by a lack of challenge for position, arrogance and lack of respect

  • brokendown

    timing is everything

  • Wallabrumby

    I dont know Adrian, it does seems to rain a lot in Sydney all year round.

    I have lived Sydney most of my life and have been through winters where we have not been able to train on a ground for 5 weeks straight. Problem is the councils are so precious about the grounds that you never play, train or do anything rugby when it rains. So now we have whole generations in Australia who do GYM sessions when it rains and never learn how to catch a soapy ball.

    So it is my conclusion it is not the ARU ruining Rugby in Australia it is the local Government Councils!

    • Adrian

      You’re not wrong re Councils.
      And parents are a bit iffy about their darlings getting wet or muddy

      • Bobas

        Its mainly councils.
        It takes a day to close a ground so if it hasn’t rained the previous day and it’s not a thunderstorm you’re good to play no matter how wet, but if it rained a couple of days before and been sunny for two days chances are they haven’t bothered to reopen the ground.
        They also charge horrendous amounts to book grounds then offer no assurances if an app organised sporting group sets up shop there.
        They also close for 3 months to resurface ever couple of years rather than run a soil aerator over it every now and again.
        Then the lights will cut out at the exact time you booked the ground to and an hour before that when daylight savings kicks in (that will take them at least a couple of months to sort out).
        And there’s more things like parking we could get into.

        • Who?

          My club moved last year, from one council ground to another (not in Sydney, thank goodness!). Time to make you jealous…
          Our old fields, the main field was a water detention basin, for controlling overland flow during downpours. In 2011 and 2013, the field was full to within a foot of the crossbar. So anything over 12mm in 12 hours and it’d be closed, with the closure (or otherwise) happening at 2:30 on a Friday arvo. Also, the neighbours whined incessantly about the lights, so our field was the only field in council’s area that had an automatic timer (we had a key to turn lights on and off, but there was an automatic cutout). It went out halfway through reserve grade in a rugby league game one night, they didn’t even kick off A Grade (we shared the facility).
          When we moved… New, full sized fields. League stayed at the old ground (they were crazy!). They still close the fields if it rains too much, but it dries very quickly. Lights until 10, if desired. And all switchable by text message! So very cool… Oh, and brand new facility with approximately 300 car parks. Expanding (it’s a shared complex) to 700+ overflow (on an undersized field), with 8 fields (we usually have access to 3, but up to the 8 if we had a massive carnival, etc). And council’s machinery shed for the entire region is on site, they top dress, they aerate… Are you jealous? :-D

        • McWarren

          No, I don’t want to live in Enzed.

        • Who?

          Not EnZed – SEQ… The other 5 fields are soccer. :-(

    • Who?

      That’s not just a Sydney problem, though… It’s wonderful when you get a chance to play in the rain – doesn’t happen often enough!

  • joy

    I’m after you. Yeh sure. 4 inches a month in summer with 3 in winter!

    • Adrian

      Exactly

      • joy

        Exactly is hardly a fact. I’m beginning to like you Adrian.

  • joy

    Some politically polarising boarderiing on nasty comments there Nick. Just stick to reporting the news please mate.

    • BigNickHartman

      No I think you’re confused. I didn’t call Lebanese people vermin, Alan Jones did. I’m quoting Alan Jones there. I’m merely reporting decade old news

      • joy

        [is this true? can anyone verify?]:

        A bloke sticks his hand up to back the Force and we respond like this!. He grew up in the Pilbara and probably was farmed out to boarding school, maybe in Perth which might have played rugby. This guy has a track record having given away tens of millions. I think he is fair dinkum.

        To a lesser issue for me, Lebonese immigrants. Well sure but they did try to take over a beach and since then have form. And yes most are OK including Cheika. In the end we are all individuals and choose our own way in life.

        As for Jones, for me he is a loose cannon. Perhaps you should back him for his position on gas exploration.

        • joey

          mate, it’s true. Go research it for yourself before you claim nasties.

        • TheNutorious

          “To a lesser issue for me, Lebonese immigrants. Well sure but they did try to take over a beach and since then have form. And yes most are OK including Cheika. In the end we are all individuals and choose our own way in life.”

          Really?

          FFS. There were an equal bunch of white idiots involved in that.

      • formerflanker

        Geeze Nick can you leave off on the anti-Jones propaganda? You haven’t put his comment into the context of violence against police, nor have you mentioned his on-air apologies.
        Let’s discuss his rugby coaching pros and cons, not turn this web site into a gotcha vehicle.

        • BigNickHartman

          no

    • Arty

      It is news and Jones is the political polarising twat.

  • Arty

    I think that Hooper is a bit off the planet as well. I surely don’t want to see anymore of the Tahs this year. Kings , Jags , Force … outplayed in all aspects in all games. I just couldn’t get up to Sydney for any more. I’m beat. Even done watching it on TV.
    Tahs need about 10 new players plus a coach.

    • Tommy Brady

      As Head Coach Daryl Gibson is deserving of criticism for the performances of the Waratahs throughout this season. However, why is Hooper’s inability to lead this team effectively not capturing more attention?

      I have no doubt about Michael Hooper’s considerable talents as a rugby player. It’s his ability to effectively lead men and extract the best out of the players underneath him that I have far greater questions.

      • TheNutorious

        I wouldn’t be blaming the strongest link in a weak chain.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Mate I’d question that he is that strong a link. A couple of times during the season he had to tell the referee the team wasn’t listening to him. That’s not a strong link

        • Bobas

          TBH that tactic has worked, that couple of times I think the tahs could have easily gone down to 13 men.
          Hooper pulls the old, “you’re 100% right I was speeding, I’m really sorry I’m a shit bloke and you’re doing such a good job, I feel safer that you’ve stopped me.”

          Only in a team situation it sounds more pathetic, (paraphrased) “I’m on your side, they’re just not listening to me, FFS we put Hannigan and Mumm in the same 2nd row, give us another chance, PLEASE!!!!”
          and the tahs get out of a ticket

        • TheNutorious

          He is no Dave Dennis, true. He’s a fantastic talent and is one of the few there.

          I think the Hooper bashing is a bit of a theme here though. Much bigger problems

  • Tommy Brady

    Andrew Forrest’s decision to act as some form of White Knight for the Western Force is to be commended, However doesn’t this raise more questions than answers?

    Where was Andrew Forrest when the Force effectively fell into the ownership of the ARU when the financial losses kept mounting?

    Does this mean the ARU must now decide who has the more committed money – Andrew Forrest in WA or Andrew Cox in Victoria?

    If proper financial backing is in place at both the Force and Rebels what then is the criteria for who stays?

    Where does Forrest spend his money on the Force? Retaining coach Wessels has to be priority No. 1 but what if offers from the more established Reds and Waratahs prove too tempting?

    Where are the players coming from – in particular the replacement for the very influential Matt. Hodgson? Will money spent on washed up Waratahs, Reds or Brumbies players deliver the results necessary for the Force to become a winning franchise in Super Rugby?

    Does Forrest’s loot effectively underwrite the cost of retaining DHP, Coleman, Hardwick and other better performing Force players – or they heading for the greater stability of Sydney, Canberra and Brisbane?

    The higher cost base of the Force in WA make them expensive to operate. Forrest signing long term commitment deals with the ARU – or we re-visiting this whole shambles again in 1-2 years?

    • Perth girl

      Why do you say the higher cost base of the Force Make them expensive to operate? Rebels has cost the ARU 20 mill in 6 years, does that make the ARU the White Knights for the Rebels? As for the replacement for Matt Hodgson I think local player and recent Wallaby Dickie Hardwick fits the bill there! Incidently Matt Hodgson was “a washed up Waratah” who was told he would never play Super Rugby. Don’t worry about us Tommy the future looks bright!

      • Tommy Brady

        I made the assumption their travel costs alone would push their operating budgets above the Brumbies, Waratahs, Reds and Rebels.

        • Who?

          Doesn’t cost them more to travel to Brisbane than it costs the Reds to travel to Perth. Doesn’t cost them more to travel to SA than the Reds. But the difference is made up when they travel to Dunedin.
          None of the teams are in the same locale as others, the closest you’ll get are the Chiefs and Blues. It’s an airfare for all Australian derbies bar Brums/Tahs. It’s just part of the cost of the comp – not of running that franchise compared to any other franchise.

      • Nick

        To be fair, Hodgson was around when it was still Super 12. NSW had Phil Waugh and Hodgson was too good to just be playing for Manly in the Shute Shield. I would definitely have preferred Hodgson back at the Tahs after Phil retired though.

    • joy

      Forrest was obviously impressed by the fight in the dog on display over the last few months culminating in the magnificent display over the weekend. Although he has made previous contributions he is entirely free to up the ante any time he wants.

      For mine the Force has to stay if for no other reason than to give me at least one team I can be proud of.

  • Brisneyland Local

    Wow ladies and gents the criticism of Twiggy Forest is a little unwarranted. Lets look at the facts:
    – FMG (Fortescue Metal Groups) sponsored the Force for a number of years.
    – Twiggy is a pretty behind the scenes kind of guy. He is not a Palmer, or a Tinkler. The only reason he would have gone public on Saturday night, is because the Force would have told him that that would be good for the fans and players. He wouldnt have been comfortable with it at all.
    – He is not a fly by nighter, he will not go bankrupt like the Palmers, Tinklers, and other people who buy clubs as a trinket or a status symbol of wealth.
    – Buying a rugby team, or any other top level sporting franchise is a serious committment. Look at Russel Crowe buying the Rabbitohs. He could have bought it years before, but wanted to be in a place where he could committ to not just being an ATM / cash cow for the club, but being an owner who is present and engaged.
    – I dont Know Twiggy personally, I have met him a few times at fundraisers and the like. He is a decent and genuine guy. He is truly one of the greatest philanthropists Australia has ever had.

    On the other hand I can understand the critiscism of Alan Jones. But hey I am prepared to back him at the moment. Because any one that is going to stick it to, and be a fly in the ointment of the ARU is a good bloke in my book!

    • Perth girl

      Thanks for setting the record straight on Twiggy for the benefit of people who don’t know BL. He has also issued a statement saying that he will do what it takes to keep the Force in WA

      • Brisneyland Local

        No worries. I dont know him, but have met him a few times. He is a gentleman, and very genuine. He is a guy that walks the talk. If he says it he does it.

  • Missing Link

    When I heard Alan Jones was coming back to Rugby, I was hoping it would have been in a more full time administrative capacity.

    Alan Jones is the perfect person for this situation, he’s not really popular for his views on pretty much everything, I get it, but he’ll flap his lips and he doesn’t care what people think. The ARU needs a fox in the hen house

    I’ve heard a few times that people are too scared to disagree with Pulver for fear of losing their job. If anyone is going to tell Pulver and Clyne that they suck, it’s got to be Alan Jones right? Someone needs to give Pulver and Clyne a dose of reality. I hope Alan Jones Barbarians smoke the Wallabies and then Jones doesn’t hold back in the post match presser.

    The ARU needs a shake up

    • Brisneyland Local

      I agree. I dont particularly like Jones, but if he is going to stick up the ARU and make Pulver uncomfortable and perhaps get them to do their job properly, I am all for him being involved!

      • Brumby Runner

        Was the ARU in any way instrumental in Jones getting the BaaBaas gig? I know the BaaBaas have a certain amount of independence, but didn’t the original tweet from Jones reference the ARU as part of the announcement that was coming?

        • McWarren

          That’s what I was thinking as well. I get the feeling Jones is changing sides, puller and Clyne wouldn’t allow it if he was going to come in swinging, or in Alan’s case whining at full pitch.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I am not sure, but I doubt the ARU would facilitate it seeing how critical JOnes has been of them lately.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      I agree with that. The only thing is Jones seems good at criticism but I haven’t heard anything on an alternative solution. Easy to criticise when you don’t need to do anything about it

      • Brisneyland Local

        Whilst I agree with that, there really is no one that can bring the kind of pressure to bare needed to make Pulver et al squirm. Jones can do that, and maybe his role is to be the wrecking ball. So be it if it is, there are other people that can be bought in the re-build. But we need the High explosive catalyst required to ignite the bomb!

    • TheNutorious

      Sounds about right with Alan Jones. We need a right-winger, outside of the establishment to drain the swamp and make the ARU great again.

      I’ll pass!

      • Missing Link

        we also need a right winger playing on the god damn right wing instead of full back :D

  • Bay35Pablo

    Loving SAF fans whining about Brumbies getting home final.
    Strangely silent on Stormers (43 points) getting home final against Chiefs (57).
    Beyond the usual hypocrisy that seems to kick in like a virus once you live in the Republic, they signed up for the format (just like everyone). If only we’d stuck with 15 sides in 3 conferences, rather than this misbegotten Frankenstein so we could get the Kings in ….
    And apparently same finals format next year, whatever the number of teams is (* subject to court action).

    • TheNutorious

      Maybe we can dupe the Pro 12 into taking the rest of them.

    • Missing Link

      Spot on mate, a friend asked me over the weekend who made the finals. I told them I didn’t know, can’t even tell you which teams are in the two Africa conferences. That says a lot.

      • Nick

        This is what I’m talking about. I’m the same ML. It feels like Rugby Union this year has just been a distraction and not a pleasant one at that. I suspect a lot of people are feeling the same. On the other hand I’m watching the Shute Shield whenever I get the chance and it is currently my favourite Rugby comp.

    • Who?

      The format was created because there was a year late in Super 14 (four team finals system?) where we had three finalists from NZ, and one from Australia. Which left us without a Saffa team in the finals, not ideal from a TV ratings perspective, when they provide so much cash…
      I’ve no issue with mandatory representation for each of the nations, but for SA or Aus to whinge about it is frankly lunacy…

    • Nick

      This has been the most forgettable season of Super Rugby yet. Half the teams not playing the other half, a 4 week break in the competition and pathetic performances by pretty much every team aside from 4 Kiwi teams and 1 South African team…

      The format we have currently is rubbish. Moving back to a Super 10 or 12 if you want to keep Japan in and cobble up some other team would be a great start.

  • Bay35Pablo

    Presumably Jones doesn’t have to hold a current coaching certificate to be “coach”? Coaching the Wallabies 30 years ago is like a “licence for life” yeah?

    • Who?

      Great question – never before thought about the fact that, as a coach, my legal credentials are very likely higher than those of the Grand Slam winner! Which is bizarre…
      Think you have to renew Smart Rugby every 2 years, regardless of your coaching level. Miss that, all other qualifications are suspended until it’s updated. And the higher levels also have expiries on them… Great question.

  • Deb Brown

    twiggy – only time will tell
    was this a publicity moment – good to see …..
    either way good or bad ; the subject of S15 and the force is on the tabloids for discussion/awareness.

    seems odd though that in Matt ” concrete: hodgsons final game the public face was a sponsor – was anyone there a t the end that – was there a Rob simmons send off of for the great man/player
    on a second thought – good job on smashing them TAHS …
    anyone have thoughts on the school boys selections

    i.e. ACT won and in total undefeated games two player made the squad -where as NSW 4 and QLD 6 made up a VAST majority

  • muppet

    Will Twiggy pitch in for the other sides’ air fares?

  • Gladio

    Spare us the virtue signaling. We come here for rugby news.

    In any case, Cheika would probably be more offended that you see him, a Christian Lebanese, as part of the same group as the Muslim Lebanese thugs who were abusing Australians at Cronulla.

    • TheNutorious

      This is just silly. Leaving aside the fact that your premise is flawed (the Cronulla Riots were a rare case of Lebanese youths of different religious backgrounds coming together) Alan Jones slandering a nationality was f***** disgraceful and shouldn’t be defended or excused.

    • Who?

      To be fair to Nick, everything indicates that Mr Jones used a term for a nationality, not a specific ethnicity or religious affiliation. The court ruling was over the use of a national/racial term, not a religious term.
      It may be different for those from other countries, but if someone were making such comments about Australians, then clarified them as only being about people descended from convicts, I’d still have the right to be offended about it. As someone of Irish-Catholic (STRONGLY Catholic) descent, if someone made an Irish slur and then clarified he ‘only meant the Orangemen’, I’d still have the right to be aggrieved (it’s not like you can tell which ethnic group (because it’s really ethnicities fighting, represented by religions) I’m from). Not saying I would or wouldn’t be. But we should treat each other fairly and with decency (which is the point of the ruling), and as such, in spite of not being specifically part of the group that was implied by Jones’ statements, then there’s no reason why Cheika is unentitled to feel aggrieved at Jones’ attitude and statements.
      That said, I’d reckon that he’d feel more angry about the way Jones has talked about Rugby over the past decade… He hasn’t exactly helped to support the code in any way, shape or form.
      But honestly, do you expect Nick not to have some form of commentary about every entity he references?! This is the news – there’s always some form of reference. None of it is intended as anything other than fun. I’m just surprised we have so many defensive Alan Jones audience members on here (I once listened, but I don’t find it healthy for me to have that much anger coming in. Especially not when I’m watching the Wallabies…).
      Watch out Nick – next thing you know, someone will be reporting G&GR to Alan! Hang on, that might push the click counters up, and increase site numbers, increasing advertising revenue… Nick, you’d better make a habit out of this chipping Alan Jones malarkey!

  • Bernie Chan

    Here is a bit of satire (or not…but it was on Fox…)…apparently Nathan Grey is going to conduct a post season review into the TAHs defensive woes! What the….?

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Mate it’ll be an easy fix. Just a couple of tweaks

      • Bernie Chan

        Haha…that’s right, I forgot…”defence is the easiest thing to fix…”. I am such an idiot…

    • Brisneyland Local

      Yeah I read the same article. I spewed my cup of coffee all over my keyboard. He is going to review himself. Holy shit this guy is a fucktard!

  • McWarren

    Chin up Adrian, as a Reds fan I feel and understand your pain. The only way is up, right?

  • old laurentian

    Please. The Cronulla riots don’t belong in here, or whether we listen to Alan Jones. The issue is about his possible coaching of the Barbarians and why.

  • Andrew Miller

    Yes..but half the Super season is played in Summer/Autumn. It doesn’t really start raining in Perth till end of April..or this year..June.

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