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Monday’s Rugby News

Monday’s Rugby News sees a quick recap of the Wallabies, some rugby news from an unexpected place, GPS finally ending their drought and Shute Shield race continues.


 

Wallabies Recap

Photo Courtesy of Keith McInnes

Photo Courtesy of Keith McInnes

Well as we all know the Wallabies went down 38-13 to the All Blacks on Saturday night in what was a depressing 50 minutes for all Australian fans. (and any non-New Zealand fans)

The Wallabies started like a house on fire and brought that same offensive-defence mindset which brought them success in the first test of the Ireland series, but failed to capitalize on their dominance.

In fact, the Wallabies really rattled the All Blacks who made a fair few fundamental errors early on.

Yet the Wobs lacked composure and basic skill execution when it mattered and blew several opportunities.

Set piece is a cause for concern and the sooner we can get Scott Sio and Taniela Tupou (my idol) back onto the field the better, purely for the sake of their scrum work.

Kepu looked off pace and was targeted by a strong All Blacks scrum.

I also wouldn’t be surprised to see Simmons brought in for his lineout ability seeing as we couldn’t win one to save our life.

Added to these issues was a level of fitness.

Michael Hooper, AKA the $6 million dollar man, struggled for the back 25 at least to keep up with the pace of the game and surely Pete Samu should’ve started.

In general a fair few players looked gassed, although probably less so than in previous years, if that pleases anyone?

Cheika was visibly deflated and had this to say to the SMH about the Wallabies performance.

“There was too much ball given back to the opposition, both from set-pieces and general play,” ”

“We’ve got to stay at it. When things don’t go your way or don’t happen like you want them to, you’ve just got to keep coming and see where it goes from there.”

“Even when we made some really good attacking raids in the second half, we tossed the ball away. We should have kept doing what we need to do.”

Any solutions GAGR’s?

Namibia Qualify

Namibia's flanker Jacques Burger (L) rea

Qualified!

Now for some rugby news from an unexpected place, Namibia have qualified for 2019’s Rugby World Cup.

The boys in blue will add some more African flavour to the tournament after defeating Kenya 53-28 in Windhoek to win the Rugby Africa Gold Cup on Saturday.

Namibia join world champions New Zealand, South Africa, Italy and the Repechage winner in Pool B for what will be their sixth-successive tournament.

Kenya’s dream of qualifying for their first shot at the big dance is not finished, but they now face the prospect of taking on Canada, Hong Kong and Germany in November’s round-robin Repechage competition in Marseille for the final place, a much harder challenge.

World Rugby Chairman Bill Beaumont spoke to RugbyPass, saying: “Congratulations to Namibia on winning the Rugby Africa Gold Cup to secure a place at Rugby World Cup 2019. They were impressive throughout the competition and are deserved champions.

“We look forward to welcoming the Namibia team and their fans to Japan for what promises to be a very special and ground-breaking Rugby World Cup – the first in Asia.

“The qualification process is almost over, but Kenya’s journey continues as they deservedly secure a place in November’s Repechage in Marseille, and I would like to wish them, Canada, Hong Kong and Germany all the best for what promises to be an exciting tournament.”

Galloping Home

GPS win against UQ

GPS Premiership after 22 years

GPS Rugby club have finally broken their premiership drought after a win of University at Ballymore.

The 22 year wait has now been erased, with a tight 23-16 win bringing their fans running from the hill.

Inspirational skipper Michael Richards led the way for the side, bruising inside centre Alfonso Horomia and astute game management from Reds halfback James Tuttle, the Gallopers played with a gale force wind at their backs in the first half and established a 17-6 half time lead.

It was a lead that proved unassailable despite an promising late University surge which had the strong Ballymore crowd on the edge of their seats.

Having Ruan Smith in the front row, along with several seasoned first graders, GPS dominated their big name rivals in Angus Scott-Young, Harry Hockings and Adam Korczyk by using their scrum as a weapon, piling pressure on from the outset.

UQ seemed insistent on running the ball out of their 22 however both Tate McDermott and James Dalgleish struggled to find the find of form that had made them premiership favourites, with Dalgleish having his worst performance on the biggest stage.

The biggest moment of the game fell just before half time with a controversial decision from the officials.

As Jeeps pushed for their second try on the right wing Scott Gale stretched an arm out in an attempt to intercept, knocking the ball down and subsequently denying an unmarked Horomia.

Referee Nic Berry, assisted by Damon Murphy, deemed the swipe a yellow card and penalty try offence, sending the Gallopers into the sheds with a 17-6 lead and a one man advantage when play resumed.

It was too much in the end for University, who put together a spirited comeback only to fall agonisingly short.

But that would be all she wrote, the Gallopers charging to a well deserved Queensland Premier Rugby crown.

After so much emotion, RedsRugby spoke to Richards, who had this to say.

“All that we spoke about out on the field was just working hard,” Richards said.

“We defended really well and everyone was putting in effort for one another.”

“I’m super proud of the boys and their willingness to work for one another.”

“Their work rate was unreal and we defended our way to victory.”

“I’m so proud that after 22 years we finally get to bring the cup home to Yoku Road.”

Shute Shield Finals

The 2016 Shute Shield Launch. Photo by nswrugby.com.au

Shute Shield

Warringah, Sydney Uni and Norths all won hard fought matches to keep their hopes alive, while the coastal boys Manly scrapped through after surviving on other results, according to RugbyNews.

Warringah kept their premiership defence alive with a close 34-28 win over an understrength Manly side in front of another huge crowd on the Northern Beaches.

The game was a battle of the big men at Rat park, with Rory O’Connor crossing for Warringah’s first before Manly prop turned winger Charlie Abel leaped from a lineout, intercepting a pass and scoring from 5 out.

Flying Warringah winger Esera Chee Kam finished off tries on either side of the half time break to give the Rats a 17-7 lead.

Manly never stopped in their pursuit, with Sam Shires finding plenty of space through the middle of the Warringah ruck to score, followed by Josh Turner intercept, giving the Marlins a lead 21-17.

Warringah hit back through centre Sailosi and then charged further ahead after forwards Manny Meafou and Mahe Veii combined nicely for the Rats fifth try.

Manly kept fighting late in the match and crossed through reserve fullback James Ohmsen yet it wasn’t enough to secure a late win.

The students defeated a close victory over a much improved Eastern Suburbs side at Campbell town as well.

Playing for their finals hopes, the Easts’ forwards stood up and continued to match the star studded Uni pack (the same in both Queensland and New South Wales). Led by Waratah Tom Staniforth, the Beasties refused step down and scored midway through the second half through young gun Cody Walker to reduce the deficit to one point.

With five minutes remaining, Easts’ cracked and Wallaby Jake Gordon charged through a gaping hole in the defensive line and slammed the ball down next to the posts to score the match sealing try.

Finally, Northern Suburbs defeated Eastwood 16-10 on a windy day at North Sydney Oval, setting up their grand final rematch against Warringah.

Irae Simone threw a good old bounce pass to Lochie Creagh to set up Norths first try.

Can never go past a bounce pass.

The Woodies opened their account with a penalty goal, before Pat Sio (a very talented individual) barged over on the back of a dominant Eastwood scrum to reduce the deficit to three points.

But that’s as close as the 2014 and 2015 premiers would get, finishing the game 6 points short.

Norths will host Warringah in a grand final rematch next weekend, while Sydney Uni play Manly.

  • onlinesideline

    Ahhh Yess – New Page, New Day

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    • Happyman

      I know I have been like a junkie waiting for my fix all morning. now I feel like I can start the day.

      • Ned Stevens

        Sorry fellas, was slack this morning!

        • onlinesideline

          no worries Ned, good stuff

        • Who?

          I’m glad you were just slack, rather than depressed, curled up rocking in a corner somewhere…

  • Brendan Hume

    Not a very auspicious start for Simon Raiwalui… scrum was custard, lineout was worse…

    • Ned Stevens

      Awful in my opinion. There was no set-piece anything really.

    • onlinesideline

      Scrum I can sort of understand. But the lineout – WTF went on there. Tafs throws were just straight back to his old days.

  • Mart

    The fact the Wallabies didn’t convert any of that early pressure into tries says it all really

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Yep mate. This tactic of going wide early just makes the forwards run from side to side while NZ stand back and only compete when they have to. Flogs the forwards with no real gain and an inability to create play.

      • Patrick

        Those two words “going wide”. I started to lose faith once I began to understand that we really did not have any intention of punching it up even twice. Maybe because only Hooper and Pocock actually made metres in a tackle :(
        We need to either bring back McMahon or find someone else who can hit a tackle like he means it.

  • onlinesideline

    Why does Izzy cantor, then hop, skip and jump right into the darkness defense. He got smashed and straight away we were in a position of weakness. I mean WTF IS THIS ?
    He cant kick back like Latham or Roger Gould, he cant seem to bash his way back full steam, step, change direction. I would rather Banks to be honest. Im so sick of this Tahs axis, the Pooper, the Foley persistence, the Folau playing FB instead of wing. Its all wrong.

    If Cheika doesnt change the Pooper, give Foley a bench spot hes lost the plot.

    • HK Red

      Without bothering to look through the 300+ comments on the Bled I review to see whether it was mentioned…….did anyone else feel that bomb that Foley put up on our 22 was actually a planned move for the Folau aerial regather? (It was the move where he did his ankle)
      If that was a legit tactic to exit our own 22, think that says all we need to know about Nard.

      • onlinesideline

        It def had that look about it but say it aint so – may as well put Quade back and get him to kick to Digby inside our try line.

        • HK Red

          Hahaha that was brilliant, then poor Digby getting run down at half way and throwing a rubbish pass to benny Lucas

        • juswal

          One of the boldest counter-attacks of all time. The fact that he did it under a penalty advantage barely detracts.

        • onlinesideline

          yeah back when footy was fun to watch and we won occassionally

        • Greg
        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Would never see that from most 10’s. Risky but bloody awesome

        • Greg

          unbelievable isn’t it!

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Fuck yes. What you watch this game for mate

        • Parker

          Yep. That’s the genius small minds can’t handle and faint hearts can’t withstand. Others find it exciting.

        • Who?

          At least Quade had a penalty advantage when he put in that kick. Foley had no such excuse, just a lack of better ideas.

    • st saens

      Personally, I am over Izzy. World class or not, I hope he goes back to mungo-ball asap. Does anyone remember Peter Grigg? Not the world’s greatest athlete, but by crikey he put in. (sure winger v fullback, but as we all know Izzy is not a fullback).

      • onlinesideline

        yeah Grigg was great. Direct runner. Mate people say QC had his quirks. Fuck me, Izzy is a weird player. That run back of his was just cringe worthy, What IS that ? If he thinks its low risk/return in barging up full steam, then try running across field at full pace and then doing his big step. Its clearly a co-ordination thing, a mnetal thing , where he needs a certain rythm to run in a certain way. Very weird. It needs coaching out.

        But the Izzy, Folua, Pooper will go down as a massive 4 year failure. We have acheived nothing over Cheikas reign with this and it seems only injury will force a change. Maybe Saturday will be a quirky success – you never know.

        • Who?

          If we lose Saturday (and no one’s betting anything other than that), Cheika’s record goes to 25 from 50. Has anyone else ever held a 50% or lower record as Wallabies coach?

        • onlinesideline

          and whats the percentage against the top 5 teams I wonder ?

        • Who?

          Can’t be good. He won what, two against the ABs (from ten), one against Ireland (from five!), one against England (from seven – the one being the 2015 RWC game), maybe two against Scotland (from four), against the Bokketwo from five (with two draws).
          Link was at 50%. But he had 22 Tests, of which six were against the ABs (no wins), four against the Bokke (one win), and the other two losses were Argentina and England (where we were robbed by terrible officiating – Brown with his foot in touch, etc). He didn’t lose to Ireland, France, Scotland or Wales. Cheika’s lost to all of those bar Wales. And he can bolster his numbers with 2 games against Fiji, and games against Japan, the US and Uruguay (Uruguay was the only one of those in a RWC). So, of Link’s losses, 54% were against NZ (which is understandable), whereas Cheika’s losses to NZ are only 36% of his losses. Link had one June series (swept 3-0 against France), Cheika’s lost 6 of 9 June Tests across three series, we’ve not had a loss-free June since 2014.
          I can’t advocate for Cheika’s sacking. I can’t see any genuine alternatives. I don’t see any experienced Aussie coaches with great head coaching histories coaching anywhere – well, not any that would be interested in coming home. And I don’t see why any non-Aussie coach would even consider coming here. And RA hasn’t come out and told us that Cheika’s got their full support, so he’s safe. So I’m not agitating for his sacking. But I can’t see much hope of improvement when we’ve actually got a pretty solid playing group, but we make stupid calls that hamstring us (like the selection decisions after Tupou’s hamstring issue).

        • 22DropOut

          Cheika’s tenure has not been a roaring success obviously, but how is it a “massive 4 year failure”? Relative to what

          We reached a World Cup Final, won a Rugby Championship and finished 2nd twice under Cheika. That is better than the 4 years prior to that. And the 4 years prior to that. And the 4 years prior to that. And the 4 years prior to that. In that time we have had objectively better players available to us too.

          No matter what sort of priority you place on out of competition tests (which are important) he can’t be labelled as a “massive failure”.

        • Who?

          Cheika’s at 25 wins out of 49 Tests, about to be 25 from 50. That’ll be a 50% win ratio, in a period that includes games against Uruguay, USA, Japan, and two against Fiji.
          One good year in 4 years doesn’t make it a great four years. Especially when you consider the Rugby Championship win, it was massively drawn in our favour (we played both NZ and SA at home, only Argentina away – still lost the Bledisloe, just like 2011), and the RWC, we played one very good game (England) and two solid games (Wales and Argentina). We got lucky against Scotland, and we couldn’t score against 15 players when we faced the ABs. In other words, we really had some luck, and rode it well. But that doesn’t happen every RWC.
          Deans was an idiot. I didn’t rate him as a coach – even as far back as 2010. I gave him 2008 to impose himself on the team (so I gave him a pass on the 53-8 loss in SA), I didn’t judge him as a coach until I’d seen what 2009 brought. And I wasn’t impressed. So 2011, we lost a RWC SF. Because we weren’t smart enough to pick a back up for Pocock and lost to Ireland – if we’d won that game, we’d have lost the Final to NZ, not the SF. So it’s not a huge difference – lost to the same team at the pointy end of the tournament. Further, Deans’ record over more Tests was a higher winning ratio. I’m not saying Deans was a great coach – he also lost twice – home and away inside a year – to Scotland. Which is unacceptable. But his record over a similarly long period is actually better than Cheika’s record. And, further, both showed the same lack of progress and growth…….
          Justifying poor results by comparing the results with other poor results proves nothing. Other than we’ve got a long history of poor results, following long periods of no visible progress in skills, tactics or personnel.

        • 22DropOut

          Not painting Cheika’s tenure as being great at all. But on the other hand, it clearly has not been a “massive failure” either

  • Missing Link

    Wallabies make my blood boil. Every f’ing year it’s GROUNDHOG DAY. Wasn’t the last time we came close to going 1-0 the draw in the wet in 2014 when Beale played 10? 4 years ago! I posted my proposed team for Eden Park in the Bledisloe thread but honestly it was a waste of keystrokes, Cheika doesn’t listen. I wouldn’t be surprised if he replaced Tui with Hanigan, leaves Robertson and TPN in as well as Hooper and possibly starts Simmons.

    NZ must go back to the dressing room and have a laugh after the game, dead set. I’m almost willing to join them and laugh at the Wallabies. It’s common knowledge that NZ’s strength is broken play counter attack. Every try they scored came from a turnover of possession in broken play. The question I had was why did the Wallabies feed their strength, and the answer is because our set piece fell apart, we had no other option to keep the ball in play. All of NZ’s trys came from soft defence and no urgency to scramble.

    • HK Red

      Jeez you could almost see Read giggling in the post match, saying he we really pushed them in the first half

      • 22DropOut

        Let him laugh, their time will come.

        They are not the team they were in 2015 and Hansen is not a great coach. Individual brilliance will win games 9 times out ten but there are weaknesses in this team which the very best sides can and will expose.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Good luck with that mate. I agree any team is beatable but I think the ABs are just a bit better than most at the moment. I actually think the team is building to a point that next year they will be better than the 2015 team. Hansen is proving pretty damn good at selections, tactics and motivation so not sure why you don’t think he’s that great.

        • 22DropOut

          New Zealand are better than everyone, I was not suggesting otherwise.

          You can’t pick a bad New Zealand team with the players they have. As for his tactics and motivation, New Zealand have never lacked in motivation and you can’t credit him for that. They didn’t look tactically very good on Saturday, particularly in the first half, but the individual brilliance they had could capitalise on the ineptitude of Australia’s display. They were outplayed in the previous 2 games against an inferior Australian side and couldn’t win the series against an exhibition side thrown together being managed by Warren Gatland.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          I’m. It sure that this theory of NZ having such good players that any coach would be successful is actually correct. Yes he was learning in Wales, but the thing is he did learn. He was part of the team led by Henry where he learnt more and now he’s coaching a team that has lost 6 times out of 86 games.
          I actually think that when you have a team of very skilled players like the ABs the coaching job is harder because your skills need to step up to match theirs or you’ll lose their respect and the change room. The fact that he is leading each and everyone of them to be better and not sit on their reputation says he’s actually a very good coach.

        • 22DropOut

          I’m not claiming he’s a shit manager of course.

          But it’s the one area of the New Zealand setup where they are not the best in the world.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          We’ll obviously have to disagree. I think its the management setup that’s led to the ability of the players to be the best they can be. But only my opinion.

        • 22DropOut

          To confirm your disagree that he is not the best coach in the world?

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          No mate, you said Hansen’s not a great coach and I disagree with that. Best in the world is too subjective for me.

        • Archie

          Hansen is a damn fine coach… his record says it all. Particularly his ability to blood future talent at the right time and hold the right mix of experience and youth.

          ‘a couple of losses’… yeah that probably will happen one day. Then what?? – they’ll still have a better record than the team or teams who inflicted those losses… so what changes?

          If one day someone can overtake their success record (which would probably take decades)… then that team, whoever they may be, can rightfully wear those emporer’s clothes.

        • 22DropOut

          His record at Wales was shambolic and he was always the bridesmaid in other roles.

        • Archie

          Disagree completely. As for this ‘should’ve won the Bledisloe Cup’ … well Aus didn’t because they weren’t good enough. Last year they were outplayed and – in my opinion – outcoached. Point and case, last year in Dunedin the Australians scored a couple of opportunistic tries early including an intercept, to get away to a 17 point lead. But the resilience of the All Blacks and what they did to hang in there come back and eventually win the game was brilliant and thoroughly deserved. There’s no coincidence that they are so good and able to change a plan after half time. Best coach by country mile in my opinion.

        • 22DropOut

          Hansen the best by a country mile?

    • 22DropOut

      “Wasn’t the last time we came close to going 1-0 the draw in the wet in 2014 when Beale played 10? 4 years ago! ”

      Didn’t we go 1-0 the following year?

      • Missing Link

        I stand corrected, yes we did win in Sydney in 2015. thanks

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          I was at that game. Walking home through a crowd of happy Yellow was actually a lot of fun.

        • idiot savant

          That was the first time (I think) the Pooper was played against the ABs and it surprised them. Of course from then on they had it covered…

  • Fatflanker

    Team for next game? I’d go with:
    1 7As 2 TPN 3 Tupoe 4 Rodda 5 Coleman 6 Simmons 7 Pocock 8 Tui 9 Genia 10 Toomua 11 Koroibete 12 Beale 13 Hodge 14 Maddocks 15 DHP. Bench: Kepu, Sio (shoulder sus), Hooper, Latu, samu, Spare fairies, as required

    • Hoss

      Not too shabby rotund one. I would farewell Koribete for a while for every one good thing he does, he offers 2 x poor things, and go Banks. Hooper & Foley will start (sure as shit) Tui at 6. Simmo & Rodda to start .

      We have SFA to lose, lets roll the dice. Not a complete reshuffle, but some young guys chomping at the bit. Tupou HAS to start and have a crack – do what the opposition least expect or like.

      • Greg

        “Bovine Sprinkler” ok… which one?

        • Hoss

          Nick Phipps

        • Greg

          ok… working on this…

          Bovine = cow.
          Sprinkler = ??

          – Weak as cow’s piss?

        • Hoss

          Close – his own bucks party was fancy dress, he went as a cow. In the wee (no pun) early hours of the morning he was asked, ahem, to ‘leave’ a pub as he was standing on the bar urinating in public

          = Bovine Sprinkler

        • Greg

          now I remember…

        • Habitual Offender

          I thought it was his passing technique…

        • GeorgiaSatellite

          No, his pissing technique. Far more accurate.

        • Habitual Offender

          Sorry, confusing my vowels. Been hanging out with too many kiwis

        • Brisneyland Local

          Phipps!

        • juswal

          Moo!

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        So Pocock out and Hooper in. Mate I’d love that against NZ

        • Hoss

          Wooooooo-up Kimosabi

          ‘Brian’ is Pocock – mistaken for the messiah.

          It’s ok, i accept your apology – this time…….

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Hahahahaha ok then I stand corrected. Or sit corrected at the moment since I’m taking a sneaky break from real work.

        • Nutta
        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Hahaha love it

      • Parker

        Nooo. Not Spanners.

    • Missing Link

      Agree on most but I think Kepu played well enough to hold his spot, TPN should be subbed out for Latu and play an impact role. Samu 6 and give Banks a start at 15. DHP just isn’t firing.

      • Fatflanker

        Real toss up for me with Samu – ultimately went with Simmons for line-out and extra scrum ballast.

        • Missing Link

          fair enough, can also sub Simmons for Samu later in the game if running becomes a priority over jumping.

      • Who?

        What did Latu do over Taf..? Or BPA in his last test..? His throwing is the poorest of our three options, we can’t afford that!

        • Missing Link

          to an extent I agree as both of them lost multiple throws, however I thought TPN was still getting back into the groove and was probably better off coming on in the 2nd half after Latu was cooked.

        • st saens

          I’d have BPA over Latu any day… love the way BPA sings the anthem. I had BPA marginally ahead of Latu (perhaps based on nothing but Reds vs Tahs prejudice and affection for garbologists) in the Ireland series. Not sure why TPN (one of my favourite players ever) was shunted into starting hooker spot. He has been away playing overseas for a year +/-. Didn’t seem fair to him on the night.

    • 22DropOut

      I wouldn’t be making wholesale unforced changes or scapegoating individuals. We didn’t lose the game because of the team selection or even the tactics. We did our annual shit the bed in Sydney against NZ trick and pack was catastrophic at the re-start, couldn’t provide a platform in addition to the mental impact of that.

      The first issue is part of a pattern (not sure why it is happening though I have theories that don’t reflect well on Cheika or the leadership group) and the second is fixable.

      We’re most likely going to lose on Saturday. I want to see a professional display from our team, which is all we can ever ask for, and a platform to take into the rest of the Rugby Championship and the November series.

      • Fatflanker

        Don’t disagree with what you say 22. Kept the changes to personnel in the current squad and reflective of injuries. My biggest concern – that old saying about a reputation taking 10 years to make and one moment to lose applies to our scrum. We’ve made genuine progress in that department and we can’t afford to give refs the easy out of penalising us for every collapse on the basis of perception. That scrum won’t go backwards.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        I would have said it was a combination of wrong selections in some critical areas and bad tactics that led to the shit in the bed.

      • idiot savant

        I dont expect to see any changes that arent a result of injury (either going or coming back). I expect the week on the island will be spent mostly on defence, with obviously some work on line out and scrum. Cheika will be desperate for a respectable loss. To this end, he needs to let Beale come into first receiver for general play kicking and let Hodge take all the penalties that aren’t deep in the opposition half. The best strategy for a respectable loss would be Highlander style. Kick for territory and tackle your guts out. Particularly now that a key member of the attacking trio is absent. If we deliver a defensive effort for the ages and Beale and Foley remain alive to attacking from turnover ball (which they are good at) who knows?

    • Keith Butler

      Really don’t get this players out of position thing. Pocock should be at 7. Tui at 8 and Samu at 6. Simmon’s (if he’s selected) at lock.

      • Patrick

        Tui if and only bloody if he starts to hit the tackle like he cares. Once again we have a massive unit who hits like 1/3rd of a McMahon it is depressing. Only Hooper and less so Pocock seemed to consistently hit the tackle like they meant it.

        • Keith Butler

          Really rate Sean Mc. Always gave 110% for the Rebs and was good when he captained the side. Don’t know if he would displace either Hooper or Pocock at 7. Unfortunately not big enough for either 6 or 8.

        • Patrick

          Well that’s what I don’t get about McMahon. We were always told he is too small but he makes more metres in the tackle than any of the bigger guys getting a place instead of him. I would have made him incumbent 6 or 8 until someone could actually beat him in the 5-yard channel starting 10m apart on offense and defence – I’m willing to bet that probably Hooper or Pocock could, and maybe some of the front-rowers, but none of the alternatives we’ve tried in the backrow or even the second row.

        • Keith Butler

          Yes he made good metres at SR level but the step up to international was a different ball game. If he only had another 5 cms and 5 or 10kg he could have been 6 for the Aussies for years.

        • Parker

          In my memory McMahon was making good meters and busts for the Wallabies too. Is it more important to hold onto the comfortable concept of “he’s too small” or look at the actual performance?

      • Brumby Runner

        I agree with the sentiment but surely it would mean Samu at 8 and Tui at 6? I do think Samu is more a 6 than an 8, but tui has nothing to suggest he could be an 8 while he is nearly passable at 6.

        • Keith Butler

          Only saw Samu at 6 for the Sadersbut if he can play at 8. I just don’t think that a starting back row that has Hooper and Pocock is the answer.

      • onlinesideline

        its the wallabIes mate – we dont do normal

    • idiot savant

      4 line out options? They’ll get confused and wont know who to throw it to.

      • Who?

        How’s that confusion any change from Saturday night? :-P

  • Brisneyland Local

    Afternoon GAGR’s. Normally I would have been complaining like a bastard that the Monday post wasn’t up, but have been in meetings all morning. So Ned, no complaints from me ;-). Over tot he Rugby stuff.
    – The more I think about it, the more I am convinced our first half wasn’t as good as we initially thought. The AB’s we very stilted. Some from pressure from us, some from mostly their own stuff ups. But at least it wouldn’t be as bad as the second half.
    – Bringing Simmons back in will only help fix the line out if we have more than two tall timbers. If we continue to play the Pooper the side lacks balance and our line out will be at threat. The AB’s were able to manipulate their line out and work out where our tall timber was and counter either option. If we persist with the Pooper this will continue.
    – Whilst losing Folau hurts, I think this will give us the chance to bring in a full back than whilst lacking the high ball game of Folau, may bring a much better kicking game, and defensive game. Folau was caught a number of times (mind you he wasn’t on his Pat Malone there!).
    – As Funk stated to me yesterday (thanks Funk) “now that Izzy is injured a new plan will arise for Cheik…something we have seen before. My crystal ball says Foley moved to 12, beale to fullback and Toomua to 10…Deja vu anyone???” I am now more worried about what ever other ‘Crazy Ivans’ Cheika might pull out of his hat!
    – On field leadership boys and girls. this is a crucial issue, and one that I am scared is going to get completely ignored. Hooper is not Captain material and is not the best 7. Time he went to the bench, and RA need to suck up the fact that their $6mil sk8tr boy might not have been a good purchase.
    – Sure as shit I hope Togan Thor is fit for this next one, same with Sio. Robertson cant start. TPN is struggling and Kepu is also really struggling. What are everyone else’s thoughts on the front row? (Admittedly being a second rower, what happened in the front row stayed in the front row so am not prepared to make semi educated comments about it!).
    Over to you GAGR’s

    • Mart

      Perfect time to play a fullback. Banks. done

      P.s Niavalu to the wing. We need finishers and with no Izzy we can play an actual fullback so don’t need a fullback winger hybrid DHP

      • Brisneyland Local

        Mart. Agree wholeheartedly. I am starting to sound like Yoda, but:
        “We need to bring balance back to the force!”

      • st saens

        Yes, yes, yes!!!!
        We may look back in 12 months and realise Folau’s injury was the best thing ever (as Banks tears other fullbacks to shreds).
        (on the other hand, this is the Wallabies, so we probably won’t)

    • 22DropOut

      Re: 1st half… agree. We scored 6 points in the worst half we will ever see from NZ.

      Re: Captain… this is a team without leaders it seems. Everyone always suggests Pocock, I don’t see him as a good leader at all. A great, courageous player on the pitch and a man of principle off it, not a rugby captain though and not great with referees either. Look through the team and potential leaders… Foley would be a possibility out but as with most people I would be hoping that a better option at 10 emerges for us (also don’t think 10’s should be captains as they have enough game management responsibility). Genia? Adam Coleman, but questions surround his quality. I feel we are stuck with Hooper as captain for now.

      Also absolutely do not see the merit in benching him when he is fit (which he clearly wasn’t on Sat). That game will stand to him.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Really? I thought he was pretty good with the Refs. They at least were communicating with him on Sat night, they were barely speaking to Hooper. But suffice to Say Genia would be a good option there too. But beside his Captaincy he destablises the line out options way too much.

      • idiot savant

        There is no way in hell a man that has just signed a 6 million dollar contract will be removed as captain. It would be too embarrassing for the entire code – board, management, and coaches. So I agree we are stuck with Hooper. I think the contract will motivate him as a player and I expect his workrate to be through the roof when he gets his fitness back.

        I dont share your view about Pocock’s handling of referees. In fact I have entirely the opposite view. For years Poocok has been the first to thank the ref after a match and every engagement I have witnessed has been respectful. I have never seen a ref turn his back on him or send him away. Indeed when asked questions about refs post match he has always had exactly the right tone and diplomatic reply. He is not going to conduct himself in a way that would lead to refs taking an attitude that might be detrimental to him or the side. Which is just as well when you play 7 because that position always places demands on interpretations of the laws.

        The captaincy is a different matter. You may be right. He may not be the leader of men we so crave. I cannot recall what he was like when he captained the Brumbies but I’m sure some on this site would have an opinion. I saw Foley and Hooper talk to him during the Irish series before making decisions, so there is clearly some respect from senior players.

        • 22DropOut

          Fair points.

          He is very polite with referees, don’t deny that. I don’t think that is necessarily effective though and the referees handle him easily, in my opinion.

        • Gipetto

          The financial argument isn’t compelling after all Quade is holidaying in Croatia of AR $.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      I agree with you 100% on the first point. While the pressure from the Wallabies did contribute to it, I felt it was more about the rust in the team. Not so sure the Wallabies will be able to step up as much as they did last year and I also think NZ learnt a big lesson about the motivation needed after a good win and will be better than they were in Dunedin.

      I hope Cheika and co show a bit of innovation for this game rather than just move the same players around. I still think Arnold is a better lock just because he’s so friggen big. Mate the Pooper has been dead ever since the first year after it came in but I can’t see it changing anytime soon unless there is an injury. It’s shit but Cheika can’t drop Pocock because he knows he’s needed and after spending $6M on n Hooper he’s locked in until you get a new coach.

      • onlinesideline

        I agree, I dont think they have that complete 180 in them as they did last year. Like ppl said on here, they looked over trained and exhausted. Maybe the chilly water of island life and a good sleep will do the trick.

        What was the atmosphere like at the stadium mate ? From my pirated PPC website view at times it sounded pretty quiet.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          It wasn’t bad actually. First half there was a lot of cheering but it certainly got quiet in the last 20 mins. I think people started leaving about 10 mins to go. I of course stayed to the end.

        • Brisneyland Local

          And so you should of! Proudly!

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yep. In short we are screwed!

      • Who?

        I think – and thought at the time – that the reason Dunedin happened last year was that the ABs were overamped. Think the game started 20 minutes late, they came out way more amped than usual, then overplayed their hand. Which resulted in 0-17. I don’t think they’ll mess up like that again.

  • Hoss

    Morning,

    My name is Hoss and i am an addict.

    Refrain – ‘Morning Hoss’

    It started innocently enough, early mornings and late nights in the 80’s and 90’s – not expecting too much to start with, but i was soon hooked. Silky skills, aggression and a team seemingly on the same page and the voice of Gordon Bray added to the high i got

    Roll on late 90’s and i was in big time. I was lying to my friends about not going out with the, spending money on some new device called ‘cable’, with the promise of ‘no ads, ever’ – the good times would always last. 98-02 i was at the height of my addiction. I loved the Hakarena by the team nearly in all black, hooked on the high the gold boys gave me, i wanted more, no, i craved more.

    Roll on early 2000’s sure my high came off, but i knew it would be back.

    A second cable box, an affair with new voices and cameras, but something was missing. The skills had gone, the aggression, the belief had changed and i needed a fix and fast. Where had that feeling gone ?

    15 years later i sit alone and friendless, a life frittered away on the demon drug – ‘hope’. Hope that a new dawn would rise, hope a new voice, hope a generation that could deliver equal doses of pride, excitement and pure old ‘suck shittedness’ to the evil overlords dare challenge us and that feeling of euphoria would wash over me like a that calm spreading warmth that a toddler gets when piddling their daks.

    Like all addicts, i will slip again, i will weaken and i will slide back towards the demon seed and hope for better this Saturday.

    My name is Hoss & i am an addict.

    • Gun

      Welcome Hoss.

      • Fatflanker

        Gonna need some more chairs.

        • Nutta

          And will somebody buy some Moccona instead of that Blend43 crap? My wife is a bit snarky over the non-recyclable styrofoam cups too.

        • Funk

          Hahahaha, brought up some memories of a company I worked for years ago, the brew of choice there was Blend43, after many complaints and some cost cutting initiatives they moved to International Roast, you should have seen the smiles on the employees faces when they eventually moved back to Blend43.
          I guess there is a bit of a moral for Wallaby fans…shit can always get worse!!

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yep. As my old boss used to say:
          “Smile, life could be worse!…………So I did, and it was!”

        • onlinesideline

          this is where we’re all headed if we dont nab a win shortly
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBHN7aJGogY

        • first time long time

          Not sure which one’s Cheika?
          I only know its not Harding because he was talking about form!

        • onlinesideline

          haha – true

        • st saens

          Best movie ever made in the US.
          When are we going to join Chief, and pull that f***ing water fountain out of the floor and chuck it through the f**ing All Black wall. C’mon lets do it!…but first we steal a boat and go fishing, ditch Cheika, Foley and all Cheika’s pet boys, and start a new world order. Ditch Nurse Ratchet (aka Jaco Peyper) while we’re at it.

        • onlinesideline

          gold mate.

    • onlinesideline

      As long as we are all sitting around in a circle making confessions, I think Im become addicted to your monologues.
      Pure Gold mate !

    • OnTheBurst

      Memo GAGR admins

      Can you please give Hoss a column, with the massive salary and entertaining budget that comes with it.

      The man’s got talent

      • Parker

        Nah. Wouldn’t work because a columnist’s mission is to keep the reader reading or at least alive. Today I only got to his second line and died laughing.

    • IIPA

      Between this and the circus post yesterday I must say they are the silver linings to yet another AB rodgering…

    • Brisneyland Local

      Mate as me and those in my old profession used to say:
      “Hope is not a mission verb!”

      • Hoss

        Yep – exists in two fields

        1. Religion &
        2. Cosmetics

        • Brisneyland Local

          Oh so true!
          Oh and everytime we enter a supermarket BL daughter 2 ‘hopes’ she will get something.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      You are a friggen legend mate.

    • Keith Butler

      Hoss, it takes a brave man to admit their addiction and I’m pleased that you have at last ‘come out’. Join the club there are thousands of us. As a former counsellor, can I suggest the 12 Steps.

      • onlinesideline

        As most 12 steps today include some form of building a relationship with the Almighty and as rugby is the game they play in heaven, I see a bright future for the man.

        • Keith Butler

          Not sure who plays God though. The ARU or Cheks.

        • onlinesideline

          The Almighty never acts in his own play mate, just directs :)

        • Brumby Runner

          The man in the bowler hat?

        • Brisneyland Local

          Cheks isnt a god. He is the Anti-Christ! Well the Australian Rugby version of it any way.

        • Alister Smith

          on the evidence of the weekend I think he’s a Kiwi

        • Archie

          Steve Hansen I think

    • idiot savant

      I dont know where we went wrong but the feelings gone and I just cant get it back… Gordon Lightfoot had to have been a Wallaby fan.

      • Hoss

        In a room where you do what you dont confess……….

        What a line.

  • Nutta

    Namibia – they were at the ’03 Cup here I recall. I watched Ireland play them at Moore Park in what was one of the funniest crowd-experiences of my life. It was just a great day out. I also remember they had some mad-arse breakaway who was a park-ranger back home and had some fairly hefty scars from when he had once attacked a lion who was attacking his girl-friends monkey… Gordon Bray said so therefore it must have been true.

    How does that conversation go?
    “Mi mum.”
    “Hi son. What did you do today?”
    “Not much. Can you stitch my shorts? I had a blue with a lion at Mary’s place.”
    “OK son. Chicken on your sandwiches tomorrow ok?”
    “Thanks mum.”

    What a guy will do for a sympathy shag off his girlfriend eh?

    • Ads

      So Nutta – why was the scrum and lineout shit?

      • Nutta

        Faaarrrrkkkkk… How much time have you got?

        Scrum:
        The opening 2 penalties against Robbo I thought were straight-out wrong. Both times Franks was face-down and fully extended out whilst Robbo was on his feet and not hinged. But that was enough to get our engagement 2nd guessing itself and it went to shite from there. Even go back to the overheads and you can see Franks thereafter boring in on Taf enough to make even me have a chuckle. In regards criticism of Kepu, my observation was that the AIB’s really targeted him around-ground to wear him down/out as his performance is often an talisman for the whole packs tight play. Take out Kepu and we are a long way done. So credit to the AIB in that they had a plan and executed it well – the guy was stuffed and sucking sea-gulls. And the point was valid in that when young Ainslie came on for Kepu’s split cheek he just got carved by Moody straight up. No two-ways to that. He just got owned. Robbo’s gotten better as a scrummager but he is there only because Sio wasn’t and his strengths are running & tackling – not out and out tight play.

        Lineouts:
        Poor calling options (at least 4 really dumb tactical calls) and then just continual under-throwing. Now whether it was true Hooker under-throwing or whether the jumpers were moving outside their training dynamics (length and speed), either way the AIB lifters were careful to put their man in-front of both our 2 only realistic options and thus cancel us out. I am tempted to say the under-throwing was actually the lifters & jumpers issue as the FUBAR’s were consistent across both Throwers. To me the lineouts were just slow AF which allowed the AIB too much time to read and compete. Put in that we only had 2 real options vs their 4 options and basic maths tells you we were double-teamed either way. The only way to stop/beat that is to go faster and we certainly weren’t doing that. We made it too easy for them to compete – so they did.

        • Ads

          Cheers Nutta. I didn’t think it was just Taf’s throwing. Yeah the scrums, I’m a bit more forgiving given the injuries and late changes.

        • Nutta

          The targeting of Kepu was good work on their part. They ran his arse ragged, he got a lot of attention off the ball to fatigue him further and with Robbo being a ‘survival’ scrummer (happy just to get through it) they knew they could essentially ignore him and ‘slide left’ and keep pressure on Kepu for as long as he stayed on-field. And so they did. And it worked. And they knew that was just fine because the guys coming after him certainly weren’t Kepu/Tupou gravitas. Hats off to a good plan well executed.

          Lineouts really pissmeoff because it’s so easy to get right. You just need to introduce proper speed. Look I never played for the Wobblies (Matt Burke confession) but I once did my bit in a front-pod lineout that consisted of x2 5ft 9in props lifting a 5ft 8in breakaway at 2. We focused on pure speed off the ground for 4 of 5 throws and therefore when we did throw a fading ball the opponent was so used to BANG/GONE that it was almost funny either lollipoping over him or waiting until he started to come down before we went (if the Ref hadn’t short-armed for ‘Jumping early’ already). It’s seriously so fkn easy to get right. But I have no right to comment.

        • Kokonutcreme

          I initially thought Franks was at fault for the first scrum penalty.

          Then I watched it again on my computer and I believe Robertson did hinge.

          This is based on their setup prior to and at the engagement.

          Robertson’s knee and feet are vertically in a straight line below his hips, compared to Franks who has his knee crocked to push forward.

          I thought what a strange position to place your feet and knee, how can Robertson push with any power?

          Answer – he doesn’t he immediately bends forward from the waist, his knee and feet don’t change position.

          Franks collapses first because he’s not pushing against any resistance and subsequently his knees touch the ground.

          Robertsons knee and feet are still vertically straight below his hip before he falls on top of Franks.

        • Nutta

          Interesting view point. I see your argument.

        • Greg

          Don’t recall the second scrum penalty but absolutely agree on the first. That said… he seemed to call it on the other side but Franks going down destabilized the front rows.

        • Who?

          Agree, for the most part, Nutta. The scrums, I’ll note that Robbo’s elbow was pointing at the ground the entire game, and refs are taught to use that as an indicator as to who’s responsible. But to penalize him for not holding the weight was farcical, and then to penalize Kepu for collapsing when Moody stepped back to get him to overextend was ridiculous. It left the scrum in a place where only one team was being held accountable for holding the scrum up, which gives the other team a massive advantage.
          What did you think of picking Ainsley to replace the injured Tupou? I didn’t know about it until he ran on the field, but my reaction to an injury to Tupou would’ve been to move 7A’s back to THP, and pick an LHP. Maybe Slipper (at least he’s experienced, and it’s a bench role). But maybe you’ve seen something else with Ainsley to say he’s a good pick..?
          In terms of the lineouts, Taf’s throwing’s improved, but Latu’s throwing is very flat. BPA’s a little better (there’s a little more loop), but almost every Aussie hooker could do with more loop, back to the days of Squeaky, Saia Fainga’a, etc. I’m just surprised no one’s blaming Simmo for not fixing it all (even though, by the time he was subbed on, Latu’s confidence was shot).

        • Nutta

          It’s part of Refs being relatively ignorant of tight play that they look for such simple things. An elbow down on a loosehead is not necessarily collapsing. Likewise on a tighthead it is also attributable elsewhere such as preventing a loosehead boring-in. But most Refs are ex halfbacks, breakaways or wingers so they don’t really have a grounding to know.

          In terms of Ainslie, if you’re not a renown starter at Super level you’re not really up to playing test footy full stop let alone up-front.

          Throwing – I’ve always thought some loop necessary to prevent block-jumping. But you can still get away with flat throwing provided you are working with speed – which we weren’t.

        • Who?

          Thanks mate. :-)
          I’d heard of Ainsley, but didn’t know if he’d nailed down a starting spot. Just couldn’t see why he was suddenly in Gold.
          I agree that Robbo didn’t push Franks down in that first scrum – Franks was too far sideways to go anywhere but down. But Robbo’s a Test capped prop, he should know better than to give the refs/touchies an easy out like showing an elbow pointing down. Regardless of reality, it was something easy for Barnes (because it was Barnes on the sideline who made the call, not Jaco in the middle) to reference as the cause of the collapse in order to award a penalty.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Mate I’m not so sure on the referees not knowing what’s going on in the scrums. I spent two 2 hr training sessions doing nothing but scrums and what each position was doing on attack and defence. Standing above the scrums and looking down we actually do see most of what goes on and I think we are much more right than wrong

        • Nutta

          I couldn’t know the comparable shite of half back play or winger play given I’ve spent nearly 40yrs playing 1, 2 & 3 across over a dozen countries. That sheer amount of time coupled with the ‘recall’ attributes of having your ribs busted, your sternum ‘dislocated’ (yep really) or your spine twisted until you pass out as a result of not concentrating or simply getting out-manoeuvred tends to ‘educate’ the recipient in a manner unmatchable otherwise.

          Perhaps I am a little dismissive of many Refs experience though.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          And probably correct in a lot of areas. There are some pooor referees out there for sure mate

        • Bernie Chan

          Was watching at a mates place…and couldn’t believe my ears when the name Ainsley was called out…I actually said “who’s the reserve THP? Never heard of him…”. The a online search revealed he is a Rebels prop. How can any of the coaches think a borderline Super Rugby THP can contest a scrum in a Test…? Who makes such a call…? Peyper had a shocker at scrum time but that didn’t cost us a “W”…though our scrum subsequently went ‘south’ in a hurry…”cause-and-effect…”?
          And why were we so slow to use turnover ball? Was Foley too slow to get into position and get the line set up or was Genia too slow to pass…?

        • Who?

          Peyper’s incompetence – or perhaps, more accurately, lack of attention – wasn’t just at scrum time. In the lead up to the try at 72 minutes, there was a series of 7 infringements. 5 were unnoticed, and the two by Australians were given as advantages to NZ. As in, the 5 Kiwi infringements were completely missed and uncalled.

        • Bernie Chan

          I guess he set the “standard” by failing to review the tip-tackle on Izzy? Rugby has some troubles for sure…and the Referumps are not helping the cause. TV cameras all over the place…yet too often the Refs make questionable/contestable calls at scrum time (eg not sure how Franks lying face down “wins” a penalty…?), and the inconsistency in ruling the breakdown drives most to distraction…Genia’s “what are you watching…?” says much…

        • Who?

          I get the issues with going to the TMO too often. But I don’t see that means Jaco couldn’t have gone to the big screen to review it himself – that’s my preference for it, that the onfield ref asks for the TMO, then makes the call off his view on the big screen, as Steve Walsh and, to a lesser extent, Wayne Barnes did.
          I’m not sure that Naholo’s tip tackle was a YC. It wasn’t as bad or unnecessary as Koroibete’s tip tackle in the Irish series (it was one motion, whereas Koro made the stop, then lifted – there was a clear second effort which was more vertical). But the way he described Squires’ penalty on the 5m line (“He got the timing wrong!” Wrong – he waited for the ruck to be formed and roll off the ball, then bridged over as the second cleanout arrived. He was never eligible to use his hands) showed his lack of interest in making calls. The breakdown was a mess for both teams.
          The only place he wanted to make a call was at the scrum, where he was consistent in only policing one side.
          Genia’s, “What are you watching?” Was a very, very fair question…

        • Missing Link

          I’m no scrum expert but from watching rugby over the years, if one bloke is lying flat on the ground eating grass while the other is still supporting his weight, 9/10 the bloke lying on the ground is at fault, the other 1/10 is where the opposition prop pulls back on the engagement. Now over to you rotund blokes to correct me :P

        • Nutta

          Pretty much…

        • Alister Smith

          I thought so too but a mate told me we got penalised for early engagement and not for collapsing (??) . NB I had the sound down so that I could listen to the World Pipe Band Championships (and not have to listen to Marto).

        • Who?

          None of the infringements blown were for early engagement or push. There was a penalty for not pushing straight, but pretty well everything else was a variation of collapsing.

        • Alister Smith

          Well clearly what I saw (and not what I heard) was as you called it, with Franks clearly collapsing on at least the first two occasions. I think Robertsons compact body shape might make him a reasonably difficult proposition and I thought against Ireland he performed really well, particularly with Tupou.

  • juswal

    Premier-grade club rugby continues to deliver everything that Super and Test rugby don’t. I would love to see a video of the Brisbane grand final.

  • 22DropOut

    To counter the doom and gloom….

    Is there a link to the comments section from 12 months ago when we were worse/as bad in week 1?

    If we play like we did last week we will be humiliated, but we (probably) won’t. We should have won game 2 last year. New Zealand have wonderful players but they are not infallible. The only team of merit they have played in the last 2 years is the Wallabies and we have shown we can get to them if we play smart.

    • Brisneyland Local

      Are we a “Team of merit!”. At the moment what is our world ranking?

      • 22DropOut

        Yes I would say we most certainly are a team of merit, as bad as we were on Saturday

        We’re the second best team in the Southern Hemisphere and the last team to beat New Zealand. New Zealand seem to handpick their opponents outside of competition, like great prize-fighters do. Since we beat them they played France 4 times, Wales and Scotland.

        There are 3 teams that can challenge New Zealand and we are the only one of those they have played in the last 18 months.

        • Nutta

          You raise some fair points there

        • idiot savant

          Scotland very nearly beat them.

        • Archie

          … and has also NEVER beaten them

    • Missing Link

      British and Irish Lions as well but I guess that’s the best from 4 teams, not one. We need to bore the All Blacks with set piece and tight defence which I felt we did in the 1st half, although our set piece was so bad we had to try something else. If our lineouts and scrums were firing, we would have stuck to that plan and put NZ under pressure, instead we gave the ball back to them in broken play and the rest is history.

      I wonder if Deans was on the money with the “play what’s in front of you” comment, Wallabies cannot seem to dynamically adapt to the current situation, think on their feet and exploit their opposition.

    • Archie

      But were the Wallabies better/only as bad as game 1 last year? Margin last year was 20. Margin on Saturday was 25.

      I think you’ll be a lot better at Eden Park. Best of luck

  • formerflanker

    I hope Sam Lane and Bergelin are back for Manly for the semi v Uni next Saturday. Their experience will be vital.
    The Norths/Warringah semi looks very even.

  • Parker

    Where are they? Where are the knockers who religiously reduce Beale’s performance to “crabbing” and “poor defence”. You’d at least expect them to level that latter criticism against Maddock’s open gate policy on Saturday. I’m happy for the guy to debut and score a try, but I’d like to see him make his tackles and put some heart into chasing when he misses. Meanwhile, you can hear crickets chirping about Beale’s significant tackling improvements. There’s something really destructive about the habit of mind that cannot integrate new evidence and make different judgements based on said evidence. It’s like continuing to have Foley take kicks for touch. Why is it that so few give Beale the credit he’s due for his outstanding service to Oz rugby and can’t let go of his indiscretions of his youth. People grow up. Some faster than others. I wonder whether those knockers who keep trotting out the same cut and paste criticisms of Beale hold a grudge because their love interests look at Kurtley in admiration. That’s my rant and I don’t want to detract from the brilliance of Hoss’s confession.

    • Who?

      Could you please point at those who complain about Beale’s crabbing? I read the articles every day, and I’m yet to note anyone complaining about Beale crabbing this year. There are some – including myself – who don’t consider Beale a strong defender, and note that he started the game well but his tackles got higher and higher as the game progressed. Foley also made some good tackles, and fell off others.
      And whilst I didn’t reference him, my first impression was that Maddocks’ first touch was to bomb a try by not passing…

      • Parker

        It’s not in the articles, but in the comments where you’ll find them. If I could do a global search of previous comments sections, I would happily oblige your reasonable request. In the absence of that functionality, I will point out all future ones, though not as frequently as you might wish because I don’t have the luxury of being able to read GAGR every day. And for what it’s worth, I appreciate your comments.

        • Who?

          Thanks Parker. I just can’t remember seeing many (any?) comments about Beale crabbing this year. I do read plenty of the comments…

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