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MONDAY’S RUGBY NEWS

MONDAY’S RUGBY NEWS

Monday’s Rugby News sees coaching speculation on Cheika continue, Uelese returning from injury, classic Eddie Jones and the Shute Shield competition finalize its schedule for 2019.


Coaching speculation continues

Credit - Pedro from disqus comments

Credit – Pedro from disqus comments

Questions of whether or not Michael Cheika is still the right man for the job have continued long into the night after Australia’s 30-13 loss to England on Saturday night at Twickenham.

It was same old same old for the Wallabies as their inconsistency rang true with some stunning moments, including Israel Folau’s blistering try and some ugly ones too, including every time Jonny May had the ball.

According to Fairfax Media, Rugby Australia executives are now more concerned about the double standards on team discipline more so than current results.

We already know about the AAC and Kurtley Beale controversy which plagued much of last week.

Now it’s been said that r Sefa Naivalu was also disciplined in South Africa over a breach of team protocol that saw him miss a bus to a training session. A week later he left the touring party ‘nursing an injury’, according to a Wallabies spokesperson.

What is frustrating as a fan is the lack of transparency when it comes to selection. Was he available or was he not? We don’t currently have a huge pool of players to select from and this lack of honesty is truly aggravating.

Since Saturday,  former World Cup-winning former Springboks and Brumbies coach Jake White and Scotland director of rugby Scott Johnson have emerged as two potential replacements for the under-fire Cheika.

The RA board meets for the final time this year on December 10 and it seems it may be D-Day for Cheika.

Public outrage continues over the worsening results coupled with inaction from the board and executive, chairman Cameron Clyne (didn’t even know he was still there) and chief executive Raelene Castle will have little choice but to offer a change before losing the publics backing.

Cleaning out the existing assistants also looms as a likely option.

This could make way for someone like Jim McKay, the Reds new attack coach, or Peter Ryan, the incoming defence coaching. Both of whom are well regarded by the high performance unit at Rugby Australia. Unlucky Queensland.

Before Saturday’s match, Castle gave the scary statement of publicky backing Cheika’s decision to take a hard line on Beale and Ashley-Cooper’s misdemeanour and again reiterated her ‘support’ for the former NSW coach.

“We believe that we’ve got a head coach who’s experienced, that’s led a party through a World Cup before and one of his biggest strengths is going into a campaign-type environment where he’ll get the boys offshore,” Castle said.

“He’ll actually have them consistently for about eight to 10 weeks where they’ll be able to build that momentum inside the environment and lead into a World Cup.”

Bold call Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off.

Uelese return imminent

170903 Jordan Uelese

Baby comeback

Promising Rebels hooker Jordan Uelese will return from a nasty ACL injury in the coming months and Michael Cheika sure does need him.

Before injuring himself, Uelese was in a 3 way battle to become our number one hooker with Tolu Latu (who is just a big ball of stupid) and Brandon Paenga-Amosa (who is kina just a big ball at the moment).

His natural ability was clear to see with explosiveness we hadn’t seen since a young Tatafu Polota-Nau.

Speaking of TPN, it appears he is struggling with the rigours of Test rugby at the age of 33 along with a full premiership campaign and it remains to be seen if he can last to the World Cup.

Folau Faingaa seems the best of the lot at the moment although he is out of favour at the moment for reasons unclear to the public.

The hopes of the hooking nation may rely on Uelese’s rehabilitation from a nasty ACL injury to his knee suffered the week before the June Tests in Auckland.

It’s good news it has happened to Uelese at a young age as his body has been able to heal faster, with rugby.com.au reporting that the 21-year-old is tracking better than expected in his road to a return.

The return of the young star is also vitally important to the Rebels cause.

Last year Anaru Rangi took the starting position and acquitted himself well however towards the latter end of the season it was clear that a burnout had occurred.

With their star roster in place, the Rebels will want Uelese firing on all cylinders to give them that extra punch.

The Rebels are confident he could play as early as late February to mid-March, meaning he may only miss the first four games of the Super Rugby season.

Ideally he will ease back into action and by the time all 4 Australian teams make the finals (cough cough) he will be cutting people and half and savings families from burning buildings.

Jones gives 2 cents

So god damm cheeky

So god damm cheeky

Never one to provide his 2 cents where it isn’t needed, Eddie Jones has made comment on Australia’s recent troubles.

Asked whether he felt Cheika would be with the Wallabies at the World Cup next year, the former Wallabies coach said Australia’s provincial system made things difficult for any coach.

New Zealand and Ireland have a fully centralized structure in which the national union has the final say in many provincial decisions, Australia’s is more complex with individual state unions in place.

It’s a system which has its own benefits but at the moment it seems a different approach may be needed.

Cheiks has actually worked really hard to try and encourage greater cooperation with the states since he took over the national role, working on strategies to manage player load and share data across the sides.

Jones was quoted in The Australian saying,

“You can criticise a coach but if your system is not right then you have to look at the system and if I was involved in Australian rugby and I am not, you cannot have two of you biggest provinces bankrupt and still having all the control in the game,”

“With Ireland and New Zealand – particularly with Ireland – if you have a centralised system for a small player pool you can be a very good team and consistent and Australia doesn’t have that and that is what they need and that advice is for free.”

Wow thanks Eddie.

All the Australian coaches met recently to discuss plans for 2019 and Cheika believes strengthening their bonds would only help in that space.

“I’m not in a position to control the machinations behind the scenes but I’m doing my best to build strong relationships with the coaches and CEOs  of the four Super Rugby teams,” Cheika said.

“We had a good round of meetings before we came on the tour and agreed some basic principles about central preparation for the players next year, which will start with a national camp together for the players.

“So we are going to be able to work more with those guys and…relationships that we’re building and there has to be some give and take they are trying to do their best too.

It’s an interesting proposition and one Rugby Australia should be independently reviewing. Does our current top-up system work?

Shute Shield confirmed

The 2016 Shute Shield Launch. Photo by nswrugby.com.au

In a good news piece, the Shute Shield has announced its draw for the upcoming 2019 season.

One of Australia’s strongest semi-professional league will be back up and running in no time and crucially, it will finish earlier next year.

This has been a major issue in previous season for the NSW NRC sides, who have been strongly disadvantaged due to their late start.

This year both teams played 3 games inside 10 days to make up for the end of the season.

Neither side made the finals.

An important bipartisan approach has occurred as the strength and form of the NSW NRC teams is crucial to involve the public and start bringing some of that Shute Shield magic into the grounds.

The product is there, just not the supporter base.

The competition will kick off on April 6 with the final regular round on August 3 with 18 weeks of uninterrupted club rugby.

Sydney University, who won the flag in 2018, kick off their campaign against Eastern Suburbs while 2018 finalists Warringah take on Northern Suburbs in their opening match.

The two 2018 Grand Finalists will do battle in round 3.

The full list of fixtures can be found here 

  • Ned Stevens

    Sorry it’s a tad late guys! Getting back into the swing of things and forgot my log in…
    Good to be back :)

  • Steve

    Thanks Ned!

    I still firmly believe we have the individual players in place to be much better than we are, and that was evident on the weekend. But it seems none of those players know what they are supposed to be doing.

    I actually wouldn’t hate the appointment of Jake White – for all the talk of ‘Jakeball’ he would at least provide players a structure to operate in. I think he is a much more flexible coach than he is given credit for and could shape a plan around it to player’s strengths also (Foley for example is excellent at passing to no one, so use that: Play invisible Pete Samu outside him)

    If they had Peter Ryan as defensive assistant then so much the better.

    • Ned Stevens

      agree re performance. I had this conversation on the forum the other day that it’s not all Cheika’s fault but I do agree that our level of performance does not reflect our quality of player. Sure we aren’t as good as the All Blacks, but we should be able to compete with Ireland and England and the weekends performance was my first real worry about Cheika.

      • Bakkies

        You should have that worry after the Scotland. Cheika should have walked and taken his mate Kepu with him.

    • Whatever the change, it has to be a 12 month appointment. They next coach will look amazing in the short term and hey extended Cheika for 4 years based on that initial oerformance. Can’t make that mistake again. Need a 12 month coach, and a search for the next 4 year coach. They at least need the Irish coach to sit down and talk with them, even if NZ is his dream job.

      • onlinesideline

        Mate dont want to sound nitpicky but my gut feel is anyone doing well in their positions whether it be the kiwi guy coaching Ireland or the mythical John Muggelton or Les Kiss, whoever, none of these guys would be IMO the slightest bit interested in going anywhere near RA. Ireland will fight damn hard to keep this guy where is.

        A guy like Jake White who is coaching a Jap side maybe but I get the feeling the Northern Hemi is the place to be not just for players but for coaches too. The lifestyle is better, Europe is close by and there seems to have been a flippening back to the north re standards. They are on the ascendency and it has a buzz. The Wallaby job I think would be a major second to whats on offer for alot of people. My tip if Cheika is dumped is that some local boys will take over for a year.

        • I agree ; I don’t have a strong opinion about who the coach should be ; only that it should be an interim arrangement, with a 4 year deal after a comprehensive search.

        • idiot savant

          I think Gatland will finish up with Wales after the RWC. I could be wrong but I haven’t got the impression he is in the frame for the All Blacks after Hansen. He is a good intelligent coach, has won six nations and and devised strategies to beat the All Blacks with the B&I Lions. I think he might be up for the Australian job.

          And I am a firm believer that interstate rivalry (bias) is the biggest obstacle to going forward in Australian rugby. I would like to see a foreign coach for the next ten years to try and rid ourselves of this poison. I dream of the best players being chosen regardless of what state they come from. I also dream of an intelligent coach who can empower players to use their brains rather than intimidate them into brainless allegiance.

        • RF

          I would estimate that Gatland has at best a 0% chance of coaching New Zealand in the future.

        • onlinesideline

          I would like to see a domestic coach and also like you say rid ourselves of this inter state poison. Im sure they exist. Foreign coaches dont sit well with me perosnally.

        • idiot savant

          I think Australians deserve the best. And if the best is not Australian so be it. And I think we need a culture re-set, which is all the more difficult from within.

        • Bakkies

          There are only two professional head coaches in Australia that are Australian. Both are two raw to take the job.

          Gatland has handed his notice and the WRU has appointed Wayne Pivac.

        • Gatland has already said he’s leaving Wales, and Privac is his replacement. He may or may not apply for the NZ job if Hansen leaves it – he might just go home and rest.

        • Schimdt has gone from Ireland, Farrell (senior) is replacing him. I think he’s after the NZ job but Gatland might be too, and Hansen hasn’t stepped down yet.

        • Bakkies

          No Schmidt is not going to coach.

        • Ah, I’d only been able to read the headlines. Hadn’t seen he was planning to retire from coaching altogether.

          I suspect it’s down to Hansen or Gatland then, unless Foster or Smith want to step up which is always a possibility.

    • Fatflanker

      Thanks Steve, that comment on solving the Foley/Samu conundrum has made my day! I agree, Jake White is the go to man, assuming Cheika falls on his sword. Otherwise, replace the failing assistants and end Cheika’s sole authority to select.

      • laurence king

        Take away his right to select at all

  • Singapore Sling

    The SMH mentions White and/or Scott Johnson, The Australian’s Wayne Smith is calling for Knuckles. No need for a review just change the locks on Cheika’s office, he’ll get the message.

    • Bobas

      I’m not convinced. Cheika is used to changing the locks.

      • Hoss

        What happened to him at Paris ? i don’t know if i have ever heard that story ?

        • Bakkies

          Apart from getting sacked I don’t know.

    • Bobas

      Or he’ll smash the door down like he did in Canberra.

      • Bakkies

        The Lansdowne Road dressing room door frame copped some damage from a Wallabies staff member while the head coach was under a suspended ban.

    • I Should be Coach

      SMH website is going to see an unusual spike in website hits today. I’m refreshing the page every 5 minutes hoping for “Cheika steps down from Wallabies”.

      One can only pray.

      • That was my whole weekend on Twitter…

        • I Should be Coach

          We’ve got to dec 10. If the piss weak board says all’s good – I’m done for 2019. Cancelling WC plans. Won’t watch another game til he’s gone.

        • Simon

          Hitting them in the hip pocket is all that’s left to us as fans. At least it’s a language The Banker should understand.

        • Bakkies

          According to Matt Burke Cheika has too much clout in the joint to get the sack.

      • onlinesideline

        good profile name

    • Missing Link

      you think he wont smash the door down? :)

    • idiot savant

      Wayne Smith must be losing it. Knuckles is well past his use by date. Though he makes perfect sense on the recent Fox rugby podcast about the basics of coaching rugby: https://player.whooshkaa.com/player/episode/id/304034

      When you listen to this you do wonder about Cheika’s approach these last 4 years. He has never valued the line out nor has he ever valued kicking. And as Connolly points out, these areas of the game are vital to success at test level. Cheik’s defiant attitude to coaching these basics for 5 consecutive years is puzzling.

      • Singapore Sling

        Yeah Knuckles is too far removed from the modern game but it might take some very old school tactics to simplify the Wallabies game to make a decent run at the RWC. RA might have to wheel in some ancient Cold War psychologist to deprogrammed the players subconsciously.

        • Bakkies

          He was consulting at the Reds until he won an unfair dismissal case on a verbal agreement.

        • Who?

          I thought he won the case because they gave him a verbal agreement and then backed out of the long term (3 year?) agreement after a very, very short period of time (something stupidly short like 2 – 6 weeks?!)..?

  • Bobas

    It’s so ridiculous that some people think Jordan Uelese will make any difference to the side. Firstly the majority of people that recover from ACL ruptures aren’t as good as they were before. Secondly, he wasn’t even that good before. Sure he had/has potential, but we have to stop picking the team on potential.

    • Brumby Runner

      Except perhaps where that potential is as clear as the nose on your face and has been confirmed at the next level down, eg Jordan Petaia.

  • Happyman

    All Good Ned

    I don’t think you realise how much of an influence you have on Australia’s GDP when you forget your log in.

    My thoughts on the weekend and where the Australian team is at.

    I would recommend that anyone who has read the click bait on MC listens to all 11 minutes and then decide where the truth lies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6z0fPhmwcI
    I actually think from the weekend as we not as far away from where we need to be.
    MC needs to make some changes in the backroom staff. Larkham and Grey need to go. The forwards coach has not had a great year and I would advocate for a scrum coach as well. It would appear we are back to where if any scrum got down we are getting penalised regardless of who is at fault.
    Eng played about as well as they can go and we have a lot of improvement. Twickenham with the crowd and host broadcaster clearly gives them 14 point advantage and the results away from Twickenham bears that out.
    Hooper is just not a Captain he is not tactically aware, game aware or capable of dealing with the Referees in a decent way.

    Solutions
    I would welcome Scott Robinson as he is a very good Rugby brain and has been the leader behind the scenes in the resurgence of Scottish Rugby. I would prefer as Director of Rugby.
    MC to stay he is a very good coach but is hamstrung by his loyalty to underperforming lieutenants. HE needs to be protected from himself.
    New Attack coach – Jim Macay new Reds Attack coach and former Attack coach in 2011.
    New Defence coach – Les Kiss or Jon Muggleton both tried and tested.
    Scrum coach – Nick Stiles He may be a rubbish head coach but he is a very good scrum coach.

    Foley needs to go
    The bench need to be more explosive Hannigan and Simmonds are workers not explosive.

  • Singapore Sling

    Ireland’s just pulled off a nice trifecta at the World Rugby awards:

    Johnny Sexton, Joe Schmidt and the Irish national side received three of the top prizes at the World Rugby Awards in Monaco.

    Named Player of the Year, Coach of the Year and Team of the Year respectively, the ceremony capped an incredible year for the men in green, which saw them lose just one match all season.

    • RF

      And win the European Champions Cup in style too.

  • RF

    If Cheika is to stay on (I don’t think he should for what it is worth) we need a total clear-out of the coaching ticket. The worst scenario for rugby is to replace Cheika but leave the coaching ticket as it is. Despite the attacks on him here, *he* alone is not the issue but it is the management team that *he* heads.

    There is a lot of demonisation of Cheika here, some of it is quite nasty. Cheika’s CV speaks for itself, he is not an idiot. He is running a broken machine though, and I think he should go as there is so much damage done and mistrust of and amongst the playing staff, a totally new coaching team and captain would benefit all.

    If he does stay, however, I can’t see how this situation can be turned around without replacing the coaching ticket.

    • Dud Roodt

      I agree with you on all fronts. I am a supporter of Cheika, even though I certainly have been confused by a number of team selections. I think perhaps it is time for him to go and whatever it is that’s happened doesn’t look like it’s being fixed.

      I also don’t believe anyone will replace him and have us competing with the top teams in the world as I just don’t think we have the cattle.

      A number of people on this site wanted Cheika to fail from the get-go and now they get to say they were right all along. But time will tell.

      • laurence king

        I was a supporter of Cheika but I’m afraid he has completely lost me this season. And he certainly hasn’t helped himself with the obfuscation and spin that he has subjected us to. He has achieved a number of positives in terms of organisation and co-operation between SR teams and the Wallabies and just maybe a move sideways would suit his talents more. That there have been people on this site that have not supported his appointment and have been detractors from the beginning I think is more of a testament to their good sense than to any personal dislike on their part. I would strongly disagree with you in terms of our player quality. This team has for a long time played below the sum of it’s parts, and with Glen Ella among others being critical of backline issues as far back as the 0-3 english series would support my belief.

        • Dud Roodt

          Hmm, I think there were more than a few regulars here who wanted his blood the minute Ewen walked down the corridor.

          I don’t understand how we can look at Super Rugby, where we supply 4 of the worst teams in the comp, only making the finals by default, and we think “OK, out of these 4 underperforming teams, we will pull 30 players and hope to compete with NZ, who get to pick 30 players from the 5 BEST teams (including the Blues in there who would top the Aussie conference with ease), or England with their club successes and the wealth, and playing numbers etc. It just really doesn’t make much sense does it?

        • Brumby Runner

          At the time Link was walking away, I would have been entirely satisfied had it coincided with the removal of Beale as well. I didn’t then have a set against Cheika but I very soon afterwards formed the view that he was more a negative than positive influence on the national team. He has a woeful record with the Wallabies and that is the only record relating to him that I am interested in.

        • laurence king

          I see your point, however, I think that there are signs of improvement in three of them. Although I don’t think the signs are good for the Waratahs next year, Gibson may need to do some magic.

        • Brumby Runner

          Have we seen any evidence of this so-called improvements and cooperation between SR teams that Cheika has brought to Aus rugby, or is it more of a myth?

        • laurence king

          Heard it said, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          I agree mate, like most of the crap that comes down from him it’s all talk with no substance.

    • onlinesideline

      Dunno mate. I have noticed a refrain by 99% of people on here to be personal with Cheika despite people’s opinion of his coaching decisions. The typical line on here is that he is clearly passionate, not stupid, patriotic as all hell but just doesnt have the rugby smarts to take them up a couple of levels. I really dont think your nasty call is well founded tbh. Just my 2c.

      • RF

        Fair enough,I disagree though. I have seen plenty of personal attacks including several slurs on him, and even some attacking his accent so it is clear what was really behind those.

        Cheika’s CV is sparkling. I don’t buy the “he doesn’t have rugby smarts” line. His achievements in the game weren’t flukes. But some times it just doesn’t work out and most managerial reigns end in tears. And in all of these cases the managers face unhinged vitriol from some supporters.

        • onlinesideline

          I honestly dont think there has been close to unhinged vitriol regarding him personally. There have been one or two gone too far but the bulk have kept it respectful as I think ppl basically respect the bloke. But being passionate about ones opinion that he should go and that he lacks the necessary coaching skills is well within people’s right to air.

        • RF

          Of course people are free to say and think whatever they want. Criticisms of Cheika’s reign are fair enough, I am critical.

          However, I genuinely struggle how you cannot see the volume of vitriolic attacks on Cheika here.

        • onlinesideline

          Oh thats just BL. He’s a 6 foot 8 teddy bear.

        • Singapore Sling

          The coach of the Wallabies rather than the CEO is the practical leader of the sport in Australia. As such he represents the counrty in a capacity no less than the players themselves. Cheika’s lack of dignity under pressure has blighted the Wallabies and tarnished his once sparkling CV.

          His blind devotion to his fabulous four, Hooper, Foley, Folau and Beale throw in Haningan and his treatment of players in exile, results and now behaviour issues and there’s a strong case for discontent.

          Cheika kicked open the door for vitriol the second he kicked a hole in the door of the coaches box!

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Mate his CV may be sparkling but his results at the helm of the Wallabies has been atrocious.
          He got appointed from a lucky win in the Super final where the referee admitted he shouldn’t have awarded the penalty that won the game, he was appointed Wallaby coach on the back of one of the most atrocious player power and media based assisinations of a coach I have ever seen and has spent his time as the Wallaby coach looking after and protecting a bunch of poorly performing players who haven’t needed to improve because they know they won’t be dropped.

          I’m sorry but every criticism of this idiot is totally justified. Rugby in Australia is completely disjointed but has survived because the Wallabies have always done well. He has killed that off faster than I would have believed. From 2 to 7 and snuck into 6 on a poor showing from Scotland.
          His CV is crap, his coaching is crap and his dictatorship ruling with a bunch of clowns who couldn’t coach their way out of a wet paper bag is equally crap.
          The guy is so far out of his depth he needs a ladder to clear the surface and should be sacked immediately if RA had any balls and cared about rugby more than themselves.

        • RF

          Dismissing his prior achievements is not wise.

          We can all agree that the wheels have come off the wagon since then and he could have no qualms in getting handed his notice by RA. But many of the greatest managers in sport have failed in jobs. Alex Ferguson. Steve Hansen, Warren Gatland. Brian Clough. And they have also had supporters being swept up in the moment and dumping all over their achievements.

          He took over a shambolic Waratahs outfit from top to bottom and took them to a deserved Super Rugby championship. You can quibble over decisions in any game, NZ sides have been on the fortunate side of many of these and I presume that you don’t put asterisks beside those victories, nor should you.

          Likewise he took over an even more shambolic Leinster outfit and made them European Champions.

          His first 18 months as Wallabies coach were hugely successful, beating NZ, winning a RC, reaching the World Cup Final and winning World Coach of the Year.

          The remaining time has been a failure which is why his time should be up. It doesn’t justify revising his prior achievements or labelling him an idiot.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Ah well we’ll have to disagree then. You are 100% correct on the decision that won the championship and he did well in getting the Tahs there. However, his work with the Wallabies has been atrocious. Yeah he jammied a semi final – where his team got thrashed and his love child Beale was an absolute disaster and gave Nonu a try through sheer incompetence. Since then he has gone from bad to worse.
          I’m not trashing his CV and I admit he’s had some successes but they pale into insignificance with the disaster he has brought to the Wallabies.

    • idiot savant

      If the machine is broken, Cheik has broken it. Every coach has been hand picked by him, just as every player has been selected by him, and every game plan either decided by him or approved by him.

      I cant see Cheik accepting any changes to his coaching team unless he makes them himself. I think his position on this has already been made clear. So I think we will stagger on, hoping for a miracle.

  • The knives are sharpening over at SMH – looks like the smell another spill. The articles remind me of the job they did on Link 5 years ago…

    • onlinesideline

      check out the australian – at least 6 articles calling for his head – in fact everyones head.

    • RF

      All that the SMH has done is report on what RA has briefed them on.

    • laurence king

      Spiro Zavos wrote a very good article that can be found on the Roar site this morning as well. Calling for a cleanout of coaches and Board

      • Simon

        “Spiro Zavos wrote a very good article” is not a phrase I ever recall seeing on GAGR before.

        We really are in uncharted territory. :p

        • laurence king

          lol, have a read

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          He just once again calls for his old boys club of dinosaurs obsessed with eastern Sydney club rugby to take over.

        • laurence king

          That wasn’t really what I was majoring on, but rather his calling for Cheika and the board to go. I also think that his analysis of what happened during the Wallabies England game was alright as well. Would concur with general opinion here that Rugby administration needs an overhaul to be more fully representative of supporters Australia wide. Cheers.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I agree absolutely with that side. I just think Spiro doesn’t exactly stand for what you and I and most fans of Aussie rugby do.

        • Bakkies

          He is right in calling de Clyne the worst Chairman in the history of the RA.

        • laurence king

          I didn’t assume for a moment that you were being rude, lol my wife is far sharper with me. Cheers.

        • laurence king

          I haven’t read enough to know, but do agree that what is needed is a fully representative administration with no cliques that will try to take rugby back to the Elysian fields of 50 years ago

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          By the way, sorry my friend. I know It isn’t an excuse, but I’m quite sick today and so wrote everything very briefly without looking over how it reads. I’m truly sorry for being rude.

  • Missing Link

    3 years ago, I set my alarm for 4AM, got up, chucked on my wallabies jersey and sat there in a dark louge room with only the TV on. The nervous anticipation was building, would we finish first or second in our pool, or would England be sent home early. Nervous anticipation turning into elation, the Wallabies put together pretty much the perfect game to dismantle England.

    I got up early on Sunday morning, a feeling of numbness and emptiness lasted for 79 minutes and 30 seconds, I think I clapped silently once or twice lasting no more than 30 seconds in total. That’s pretty much where we’re at as Wallaby fans.

    One thing that gets me, why does something controversial occur every time we play England at Twickenham? Why does it almost always favour England and why does it almost always involve Owen Farrell (apart from the fact he’s a dickhead)? He’s got away with it every time except in RWC2015 where he was yellow carded for a high tackle late in the game.

  • Richard Patterson

    With the curtain effectively down on the 2018 rugby season, it is only appropriate I thank the guys who put this great website together on a daily basis. Your efforts with daily news, match previews and reviews, special features and podcasts are noticed, appreciated and deserving of recognition.

    Similiar comments are directed to the group of people who regularly contribute here. No need to name names — you all know who you are. There are lots of clever, intelligent, passionate (and funny!) rugby followers here who love the game and want the game to do well. We may all follow different teams – but we all share a collecive love for rugby and want the game to crush it here Down Under. Keep the faith on Australian Rugby — things feel like they are working towards a bottom from which the game can re-build from. They say the hour before dawn is always the darkest.

    Look forward to checking in with you all in February as we build towards Super Rugby and the World Cup. Enjoy the summer holidays everyone.

    • laurence king

      I concur and heartily thank all those involved. I live in the bush and a long way from rugby and this site is my lifeline. Amidst the gloom there have still been laughs aplenty and my rugby knowledge has grown over this season (some may care to say otherwise) and it is largely thanks to all on board here. Cheers.

    • onlinesideline

      Oy, no-one is dismissed until the night of Long Knives on Dec 10.

      • disqus_NMX

        Sadly, I think that’s wishful thinking.

    • idiot savant

      Hear Hear. Great job GAGR. We can do it all again next year. Same coach. Same selections. Same game plans. looking forward it….

    • John Miller

      Well said RP.

    • Brisneyland Local

      RP, fantastic comment. we welcome you here any time. Like KRL very balanced and insightful!

    • Wallabrumby

      Well said RP! Agree and thanks to all the contributors to this site.
      Here is to a more positive 2019 for Aus Rugby :)

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      We’ll said mate, enjoy the break and catch you in 2019

    • Andrew H

      The Tuesday news thanks you all for your contributions.

  • Brumby Runner

    On the coaching issue, it won’t achieve any improvement to sack the assistants and retain Cheika as HC. Cheika gives all the appearance of being a total dictator at the helm of the Wallaby ship, and the assistants are just trying to fit in as best they can. And why would anyone who values their own knowledge and abilities agree to take on these roles under Cheika in the present circumstances. Would be a definite career killer imo.
    Better if Jim McKay and Peter Ryan stay where they are until Cheika is gone.

    On Folau Fainga’a’s omission, seems to be the way other Brumbies’ players have been handled under Cheika as well; Powell, Arnold, Kuridrani, Banks, Carter, Speight, and don’t ever forget Fardy. In the horrendous case of Cheika surviving to RWC, it will be interesting to see just how they will be dealt with when the Brumbies fight out the 2019 Super season with the Rebels, and the Tahs battle to avoid the wooden spoon.

    So bloody late for the Shute Shield to give way on its season to fit in with the NRC. Maybe RA has had to step in again. But I query if the product really is there. Most of their Wallaby contingent should be available as many ought not be anywhere near the national team next year, but a few of those are on the downward slide so I don’t know how much they will contribute in 2019. And there just doesn’t seem to be a new crop of top line players coming through the SS at present, or they are being ignored as reported elsewhere in the last couple of months.

    Only one way now to go at the end of the year, and that is #sackcheikanow.

    • Pedro

      You forgot nic white, and he was left out when Genia wasn’t an option.

  • Brisneyland Local

    Well GAGR’s happy Monday. Like Hoss the other day I have been absent due to being spoilt by Mrs BL and the little BL’s for my birthday on the weekend. I ate and drank way too much and was a little socially confused when I went to bed on Sat night. And there for couldn’t get up to watch the Wallas. And after watching it later on Sunday I am so glad I didn’t. BL’s pissed off points:
    – We knew what the English game plan was going in, yet we didn’t prepare for it. We used the same plan we have for every other game, and the 147 games before. And we sucked ass.
    – The whole game was summed up in the first 3 minutes.
    – A lot of the squad was bad. Which meads me to disunity in the playing group.
    – I dont know if the rest of you GAGR’s saw the article involving Peter Fitzsimmons. He reckon that the biggest problems is there is a “Dobber” in the team! I think the biggest problem is that Fitzy has to realise that there comes a stage in life where we are adults and cant wear bandanas anymore. so Fitzy shut the fuck up and slide back to the Republican movement and those ass clowns. Rugby in Aus has enough ass clowns we dont need one wearing a bandana!
    – Cheika has to go! Now.
    – we need to rebuild a simple game plan from scratch. Built with players who are the best in their positions. we have 9 months we can build something reasonable from there.
    – Hooper needs to step down as Captain, and the bad culture boys need to leave.
    – If these things dont occur, I am supporting Fiji at the RWC.

    • onlinesideline

      G’day mate – I would say Hooper stepping down is on par with Cheika going, on reflection. This whole Tah thing has become really toxic. People are sick to death of it. And besides most of our success at Wallaby level has come from OLD and Brumbiy players over the years. Would be great to get some Brumbies or QLD blood through a new coach and team. Had enough. Wouldnt be against Brad Thorn being involved in some capacity for the RWC.

      • Brisneyland Local

        I just want people there on merit.

        • onlinesideline

          yep

        • Kevino

          The best player for each position and see how that goes would be a start. Than work out if their is some combo’s that work a little better.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Agree

      • RF

        I agree that shouldn’t be any parochial influence in selections or leadership, not from NSW and certainly not from QLD or ACT either as you are touting. The best individuals for the job should be given the roles.

        I wouldn’t have Hooper or Pocock near the captaincy personally.

        • laurence king

          I wouldn’t mind any folk from NSW being involved with the team, just so long as it’s not some clique that does it.

        • idiot savant

          Would you have Scott Higginbotham as captain?

        • Singapore Sling

          I think the captaincy brings out the best in Higginbotham…..at least it did at the rebels.

        • Brumby Runner

          Nah, he usually had brain explosions like kicking the ball away after a line break, and if I remember properly, was a bit of a YC target when captain.

        • Bakkies

          No. The Wallabies have a discipline problem which is massive. 10 penalties again conceded against England. H’bum’s personal discipline is worse than Hooper’s.

        • Patrick

          Why on earth not Pocock?

        • RF

          As admirable as his social conscience is and ability wise he should be the first name in the team-sheet, he is a poor captain on the field, a poor communicator and doesn’t appear to be respected by his peers.

        • Patrick

          Really? I do not have this impression. What gives you the impression he is not respected by his peers, and what gives you the impressin that he is a poor captain on the field? I assume you mean he makes poor decisions??? When?

        • RF

          His leadership of the players on the pitch is poor and his referee management is poor. His decision making is adequate.

          If you want to champion him because he’s a great guy then go ahead. Great guy, great player, poor captain.

        • Patrick

          I guess I’ve always felt that he knows his rugby, has a level head, and to my impression is broadly respected by his own team, opposition players and refs alike…

          I agree that he could do better at referee management but a) the couple of times I’ve seen him do it it already looked better than Hooper, b) I’m pretty sure that if it was his job he’d learn it properly.

          As for decision-making, I’m not big on chaining myself to inanimate objects, but do you have concrete examples of him making bad decisions on a rugby field?

        • RF

          I don’t particularly have an issue with his decision making, I’ve highlighted the issues I have with in regards being a captain.

          Would he be a better captain than Hooper? Perhaps. As in the first post I wouldn’t select Hooper as a captain either.

      • Brisneyland Local

        As long as he doesnt bring his happy clappy shit with him!

        • Keith Butler

          Christ I thought for a milli second you were talking about our beloved PM.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Ha ha! Nope definitely Thorn. He is more of a happy clapper than Scomo!

      • Patrick

        Also need team NSW out of the RA board while we are it.

    • Happyman

      Happy Birthday mate and the Fiji boys won it for you, wasn’t that nice of them and truthfully they should have won it by more.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Thanks mate! I doubt they won it for me, just glad they came out and recovered after that scotland match! I think it was a bit cold for the boys!

        • Happyman

          Mate I have Scottish heritage do for me it has actually been a few good years. Fiji has a guy that plays for Edinburgh and he wants out as he cannot understand why the sun rises at 8am and sets at 4pm.

          I always thought they were capable against the French with five weeks together and most of them play in France sport they knew the opposition and frankly they were playing the French

        • Brisneyland Local

          I so want Fiji to do well!

        • Ed

          Hope Fiji get a few games and time together before the world cup. I remember watching (on the box) their QF against the Boks in 2007 where they gave the Yarpies a good fright.
          If Spanners and Gilbert are our 10-12 against Fiji, there will be a lot of defensive shuffling as Radradra’s eyes would be going “yes, please”.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Imagine Spanners and gilbert back in the NRC against the Drua. They would be smashed!

    • Ed

      If you interpret Georgina’s article today about Sefa being disciplined while AAC/Beale would have got off free, some players approached the leadership group about the double standards. And if you heard her talk about the Cardiff incident on Insiders, she emphasised the “broader” leadership group. I can only speculate but would this mean those outside a certain clique thought it was bulldust that those two players could ignore whatever protocols while another got punished for oversleeping and delaying a bus?

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yep. But the Wallabies have been like that for years. This is the culture Link was trying to break!

        • Geoffro

          It’s not a Wallaby culture that’s been around for years or any different to other sporting teams worldwide populated by testosterone fuelled highly competitive youngsters. The vast majority of players past and present are decent blokes. The idiots in the past were dealt with internally rather than the dirty washing being hung out for all to see in our increasingly mediacentric world and the impetus to act these days is probably fuelled more by a fear of being scrutinised in said media than good intentions.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Sorry Geoffro, I dont agree. The cultural element was never cleaned out. The coach left, and the players that muntineed remained. Infact Cheika has even bought some of the mobsters back from overseas. This team has been culturally broke for almost a decade.

        • Geoffro

          I dunno BL,I can’t buy into the bad results on the field being down to a bad culture within rather than incompetency mainly on the part of the mentors.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I didnt say it was the driving factor, but a significant contributor. If the group dont gel, because they have divided loyalties they will never achieve.

        • Bakkies

          Agreed that’s what Cooper was hinting at when things were bad under Deans but got thrown under the bus due to his inexperience and others not standing up.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Correct.

      • idiot savant

        If Cheika had to discipline two of his favourite players to quell disquiet amongst the group about double standards, it is surely an indication of tension within the group.

        Strangely, I think it was one of the better and braver decisions that captain Hooper has made.

        • HK Red

          Brave decision after clearly being pressured and left with no option.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Brave decision after being given an ultimatum!

      • onlinesideline

        The quiet Fijians and Islanders had enough of the double standards and stuck up for Sefa maybe ?

        • Ed

          Good point OLSL.

      • Bakkies

        Wait it just gets better Cheika said that Naivalu had an ankle interview and would covering for Maddocks who went home from SA with an injury.

        Apparently Meakes was called up but wasn’t made public.

        https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/rugby-union/more-issues-wallabies-winger-s-suspension-for-being-late-to-team-bus-20181126-p50iaa.html

    • laurence king

      Happy birthday mate. Socially confused?! Haven’t heard that one before lol. I think Bandanna man just likes the sound of his own voice.

      • juswal

        In the weekend’s Herald, Richard Glover recycled an old joke about Fairfax management trying to save costs by removing all the keys from FitzSimons’s keyboard, except the I . . . Fitz didn’t notice.

        • Singapore Sling

          I before E except after ME.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Totally pissy! Great food, way to much soave!

    • Custard Taht

      Well, at least it seems as though the loss to Englaland has seen the impetus for change gather momentum and broad support.
      I actually feel more hopeful now that Cheika is going to get the axe.
      If Jake White gets the job, wouldn’t be surprised if Larkham stays on, as White and him have worked together previously, unless there is some ill feelings there.

      No matter what, with what has come Cheika, Gray, Larkham need to go, and Hooper needs to hand back the captains reigns.

      The inner sanctum of the inner sanctum needs to be moved on for good.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yep
        It does!

      • Hoss

        This is a quote from Mr Segall direct

        “My goal is to make sure that we are producing the best quality rugby we can on a consistent basis.”

        If that’s HIS goal and he is ‘his own harshest critic’ on what planet can Cheik believe he has met his own goals, actually even remotely got close to it ?

        Bar Test 1 v The Emerald Isle Boys when have we trotted out anything that comes close to ‘producing the best quality rugby we can on a consistent basis’.

        I’am sorry Cheika, but you have given Australian Rugby gangrene, the only way the patient can recover is with complete coach amputation.

        • Custard Taht

          Unless of course, he genuinely and delusionally believes this is the best quality rugby we can produce.

          One could argue it is the best rugby we can produce, given the team selections.

          Maybe his ethos doesn’t extend to team selections. So at the end of each game he sits backs and says, that is as good as it can get with this mob.

        • Brumby Runner

          Not quite so passive lately. Has been criticising his players for not sticking with his game plan. I think Agentina showed what can happen when the team ditches the plan and plays what’s in front of them.

          I expect the usual culprits from the Tahs are still right behind him, but suspect that most of the others are just about fed up with his shit.

    • Hoss

      Happy birthday mate – hope you enjoyed a great time.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Thanks mate I did. good food, good wine good company!

    • Keith Butler

      Happy belated birthday greeting BL. Have to admit the result on Saturday surprised me, I was expecting it to be a lot closer. Us SDs should have a decent squad come the RWC provided they stay fit and the clubs don’t burn them out (fat chance). Talking of which what’s the betting on Fiji being the dark horses of the RWC. There back play against the French was awesome but their front row so enormous it would take me half an hour to walk round their tight head.

      • Brisneyland Local

        If I were a betting man, which I am not, but if I were I would throw a lazy Fifty on the Fijians!

        • Phill

          I am a betting man and I put a tenner on them, after yesterday’s win, at 999/1 to win the RWC. I see they’re into a short 709/1 now on Betfair. Must be the weight of my money moving the market.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Hilarious. Maybe I should drop a fifty on them and we will move them to 100/1 odds.

    • Human

      Happy birthday BL.
      Concur with your thoughts on Fitzlookatme and the plan. The bad culture boys should have been sacked years ago…it is a professional game now.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Thanks mate. Agree!

    • Who?

      Your point about Fitzsimmons is very valid. This is a man who campaigns on a whole range of issues, always looking for the most ethical thing, the most righteous thing. And his wife is similar, going so far as to interview Pamela Anderson for TV last night for the PM’s witless remarks (they weren’t great comments, but neither were they worth the level of hatred Mrs Fitzy tried to stir up).
      Yet a couple of blokes break a clear team rule, and the problem is the guys who hold them to account?! Seriously inconsistent rubbish there.
      And given Fiji beat France, I’m amazed you’re not already fully on board with them and currently floating on clouds…

      • Brisneyland Local

        Nothing says hypocrisy like a red bandana!

        • Singapore Sling

          Or dickhead!

        • Brisneyland Local

          Good point, well made!

    • Bernie Chan

      Agree about Fitzy…I ranted about his position on this yesterday and was thankful Liz Ellis took a counter view, that everyone should follow the rules. These pricks keep talking about a team ‘culture’…well unless everyone follows the same set of rules and faces the same consequences if they don’t…then your ‘culture’ ain’t worth shit. Could we do worse if the coach was changed, and he brought in some players currently out of favour…? The new coach might even have a novel idea and pick the best player for each position? E.g. Fardy and Higginbotham would be a better 6/8 pairing than any fielded by Cheika (Pocock to #7….), LFG, McMahon, QC, DPA, BPA, Hunt….

      • Brisneyland Local

        As much as I dont think Hunt deserves a shot based on behaviour, he did look good during the NRC games I watched and attended. Orchestrating the back line in Defence. You could hear him talking non-stop it was great.

        • onlinesideline

          TBH im getting sick of all of this PC protocol and culture crap. (even though I said AAC was a clutz above ) People make mistakes. People today are so quick to want blood for peoples mistakes and really does the odd sleep in, or sisiter in law in hotel room make THAT much of a differnce ? By keeping to all these millions of rules does it translate into success or even give us a better chance ?

          You telling me the 1991 and 1999 aussie world cup winning sides never made errors ? Of course they made errors. Look at Rod Marsh sinking 36 beers on the flight to London and walking around the hotel hallway in the nuddy. These guys were unbeatable !!! Everyone is a sinner but their seems to be so many do gooders around quick to point the finger. Over it. Im not saying Hoooper isnt obligated to tell Cheika in this day and age, Im just commenting on this day and age.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I dont care about the rules per se, but just agree on a set and stick to them. There should be no getting off a transgression because you play for a particular team!

        • Bakkies

          Agreed and this treating poor behaviour as mistakes are one of the reasons why Australian Rugby and team sport in general is in complete disarray. Apart from Ben Stokes being a bellend British sport has moved on from that behaviour, the sports that have done so are doing far better results wise. I see Cipriani after several years in the wilderness fúcked up again and is back out of the England squad. That’s the way it should be.

        • onlinesideline

          yeah but he got drunk and disorderly – again. Bit different to sleeping in.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yep! If you are knob, you are not welcome.

        • John Miller

          I think the only thing supporters are – rightly – disgruntled about in this matter, (as are “outer” members of the Wallabies team clearly), is the uneven application of standards within the group. If they are going to be sticklers for enforcement of rules – be sticklers uniformly (seniority, club, position, caps – be damned). Even the perception of double standards is destructive – and if there is a notable “flavour” to the uneven enforcement of team rules, perceived bias (real or not) will be reinforced and heighten disunity. All indications are that the action has been forced upon Cheika and his leadership group by the serfs rather than actioned by the senior players within the Wallabies, it is a clear indication of division in the group – us VS them. If Hooper intended on holding everyone to account evenly, he would have done so when the matter was brought to his attention, not when he felt it was simply unavoidable.

        • Geoffro

          Well said.I do get where Fitzsimmons comes from too.In the past someone would have had a quiet word and that’d be the end of it.People use rules/guidelines and PC so much to create hysteria and push their own agendas it gives me the shits

        • disqus_NMX

          Yep, and there’s a lot of double standards too. Every man and his dog seems to be forgiving Slipper for taking coke, either because “he’s a good bloke”, or because “he’s got depression the poor bastard”. But Hunt, nope, he’s evil and should be kicked because he takes coke. It’s absolute bullshit.

        • Adrian

          Spot on disqu

        • Human

          Not me….Slipper is gone too in my book…two strikes.

        • disqus_NMX

          At least you’re consistent…. well, at least you think you are. In your book, theoretically, I’d have well over 100 strikes…. oh wait, but I’ve never been caught…. so I actually don’t have any strikes in your book. And how many players are in that category? I’d suspect you’d find that there’s quite a lot actually. And how many times did Slipper take coke before he was ever caught? Probably for years to be honest. So all that time he had zero strikes in your book, and there you were thinking oh what a great bloke he is, but little did you know, he was an evil dirty law-breaking coke head all along! And that there is the problem with your book.

        • Parker

          When they say it’s the game played in heaven they don’t mean you have to be an angel to be on the team.

        • Bakkies

          How many of these so called mistakes does Beale have to make until he finally acts his age not his shoe size?

        • While I can appreciate that point of view, if they’re going to have the rules, they should act like adults and highly paid professionals and stick to them. I’m not sure how young the youngest person on tour was, 20 I’d guess (I could look it up, but I can’t be bothered). But the transgressors were not “young men” these are men in their 30’s who really should know better. They’ve both toured several times before, they know the culture and they’re meant to be setting an example.

          The captain should also not apply the rules unevenly.

          I honestly don’t care if they have tour behaviour rules or not. Not suffering acute testosterone poisoning, I think a lot of them are very silly, but I’m led to believe they’re good for building team spirit too. However, team touring rules exist, so everyone should follow them and no one should act like any team member is bigger than the rules that they’ve agreed to. Ultimately, that’s the point.

        • onlinesideline

          agree that AAC shoudl know better but the rule in the first place. Sister in law – really ? cmon -anyhowww

        • The rule as formulated is silly, I agree. Arguably the rule at all is silly.

          But, silly or not, they have it, AAC should know better.

        • Old_Laurentian

          And QC looked good, and involved too!

        • Brisneyland Local

          Concur.

        • Human

          Sorry BL…going back there would be a retrograde step…A short term solution…rearranging the deck chairs…etc. it is time to look to the future…even if we get spanked in Japan.

        • Brisneyland Local

          We need to grow the younger players. But they need to have someone there that can lead! I think Hunt despite being an idiot with a substance abuse problem has talent.

        • Human

          If you weren’t 6’11 and hung like a horse, I’d suggest that we settle this the old fashioned way…arm wrestle; nude; in a tub of jelly (the jelly is for the spectator interest).
          Instead I will respectfully disagree with your view…not that we should invest in youth, or that Hunt has talent…the bit about involving him in the future.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Pure gold. I love a bit of Jelly wrestling!

        • Andy

          I think we’ll see improvement at all professional levels when true leadership is valued. There should at least a handful of leaders in every team setting the example at training, on the field and off. If guys step out of line or aren’t pulling their weight it’s these guys who will sort them out. That culture needs to be developed at all levels.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Couldnt agree more!

      • Brumby Runner

        As much as I agree with your sentiment BC, I don’t think QC is yet established as the best in his position after not playing Super at all this season; DPA (Duncan Paia’uaua?) is hot and cold at SR level and certainly not best in any position when looking at the Wallabies; Hunt has shown very little form since he joined the Reds and he has as many behavioural and cultural problems as the big dick swingers we want to get rid of.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Happy birthday mate, another year older and wiser.
      I’m with you on Fiji, they are going to be a challenge at the RWC not least because playing the top team against them means having to rest pers against Wales or viceverca.

      Fiji won’t win but they’ll be in the Qtrs and outside to be in the semis

      • Brisneyland Local

        Thanks mate. 49. And next year I will be 49 again!
        Yep I reckon Fiji will make the semis. thats my tip and I am sticking to it.
        Htat Kiwi coach of theirs has done heaps of work with them, and is putting systems in place that Fiji will benefit from for years to come. I view the scotland match as an anomally. The cold weather cruelled them as it always does.

  • Hannes En Brianda Barnard

    2018 has proven that “stronger as four” was just a very bad joke with the even poor punchline – Rugby Australia. It is time for heads to roll at Rugby Australia – especially Cameron Clyne as secretive backdoor deals, lack of disclosure, lying and losing become part of RA’s DNA under his leadership.

    • onlinesideline

      is that you Twiggy ?

      • Hoss

        FFS OLSL, don’t mention the war……

        • onlinesideline

          Im just preparing you all (in stages) for the Twiggy takeover of the RA board.

        • Hoss

          Now THAT’s a show i would like to watch.

          I reckon he would keep the Pirate as CEO, i think she has talent, but he would take a blow torch to the back room boys.

        • Brisneyland Local

          That has merit! Cry Havoc and let loose the Tiwggy’s of War!

        • onlinesideline

          Apparantely Fitzsimmons was keen on a role too. Maybe it was Raelene’s bandana. Can you imagine the 2 of them ?

      • Hannes En Brianda Barnard

        Nope. But wish he can take over RA – they cannot get much worst

  • Pedro
  • Brisneyland Local

    Comedy Gold RP.
    I have decided to support Fiji! (Black and White is pretty close to all Black!).
    They need support, I amy even sponsor them!

    • GeorgiaSatellite

      Match of the Pool, Georgia v Fiji. I look forward to the banter, BL.

      • Brisneyland Local

        I reckon it will be a corker! Where are you located? If anywhere near Syd or Bris, we should watch it at a pub

        • GeorgiaSatellite

          I’d love that, mate, but I’m in Tbilisi for the foreseeable. Unless I can swing a trip to Japan for the match. Not holding my breath.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Mate I am trying to convince Mrs BL that we need to go to Japan. But she said she will come to tworld cup when it is in Fance or Italy. So I am waiting til then

  • Brisneyland Local

    The more I think about it, Cheika is becoming the Woody Graham of the wallabies.
    Like rugby Herpes. The gift that keeps on giving!

  • Geoffro

    You guys have such a “quaint” way of rubbing it in…..I think I’ll pass.

  • Adrian

    Well done GAGR
    If this is the last GAGR I just want to get my two bobs worth I’d say this:
    Realistic not idealistic appraisal. This one involves Cheika staying, which I think is likely, but not certain.

    Reflecting on the issues which were:

    A. Bullshitting about AAC, Beale, … Naivalu,… injuries not reported re Maddocks and Robertson.
    B. Robertson not reported as being there, ditto for Meakes.
    C.What about Tuopo?….. something happened there.
    D. Oh, yes…..and the game! Bugger that,.. just a minor detail.

    It’s chaos, and we are off the rails. What to do?

    1. Calm down
    2. Think about it, don’t just react.
    3. RA get some sort of Team Manager who has gravitas but no history of taking a side vv Cheika or Foxtel eg Eales, Farr-Jones
    4. Change captain
    5. RA change Assistant Coaches
    6. Get a kicing coach…includes field position
    7. Re-start on old grudges and painted into corner attitudes re certain players and tactics
    8. Create a culture that is more humble and less dogmatic and seige oriented.
    9. Make tactics fit players, or select players to suit tactics
    10. Don’t assign players to do things they are not competent to do
    11. Simplify tactics, and remember what worked and didn’t work and why.
    12. Do it, don’t talk about it

    • Bernie Chan

      Isn’t Mick-the-kick the “kicking coach”…? Or “Skills Coach”…?
      Anyway, it’s been a bloody tough year for any Oz rugby fan…we have had sweet FA to smile about except our Women’s XV and 7s sides (and that includes the AON Uni 7s…) and the NRC.
      But thank to everyone on this site there has been some “gallows” humour, and even if people (lots…?) disagreed it wasn’t nasty. Here’s hoping it gets better….though I am not holding out much hope unless this next ‘review’ forces some changes at the top.
      Cheers everyone!

      • Adrian

        Have a good break Bernie

  • Is chiekas non selection of Stewart, Tuttle, pocock, mcmohan, Gill, tupou, ready, Arnold, banks, Maddox, Cooper, and a massive list of others a part of his centralisation plan? Or were palu, Robinson, hooper at 7, Phipps, Hanigan, Simmons, folau at 15 old man AAC, foley (over and over), Moore et al too central to his plans?

  • Bakkies

    Pulled this from the forum.

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/expected-new-scarlets-coach-pulls-15461121

    Wessels interviewed for the Scarlets three weeks job that was supposed to go to Rob Penney. Penney has pulled out so Wessels back in the frame. He could do with time away from the toxic Australian rugby environment. He also needs more experience and European Rugby provides more games and a much shorter off season.

  • GeorgiaSatellite

    Owen Farrell, the Thalidomide Tackler.

  • Andy

    I’m thinking time must be up for Cheika. This seems more evident by the fact Fox Sports are now contributing to the cause. They have historically acted as his PR department especially Nick Mcardle, fuck face inner sanctum prince Mitchell, Hoiles and Horan. They have all gone very quiet lately.

    • Bakkies

      Well the RA’s propaganda show has been off air since the end of the 4 Nations.

      • Andy

        Not the pods and the articles

  • Bakkies

    Joe Schmidt has just handed in his notice as Ireland head coach after the RWC. Andy Farrell the new head coach.

    Schmidt taking an indefinite break from coaching so AB job unlikely. He said he spends too much time not at home and there is far more travel involved with the AB role.

    Dave Rennie is only looking to extend his Glasgow for another season so maybe it will between Hansen, Rennie and Robinson for the ABs. Hansen to decide by the end of the month.

    • Who?

      Very sad for Ireland that Joe won’t continue. But quite an incredible decision for family – I hope they find peace and have a great time, wherever in the world that might be. It will be fascinating to see where that might be – he’s a dual national now, will he move home, or stay home..?

      • Bakkies

        Going to NZ his parents are getting old and his son has severe epilepsy. There is too much travel involved in Kiwi coaching roles to spend the time he requires with his family.

        His daughter was at uni when Ireland beat NZ in 2016 he probably hasn’t seen much of her.

        • Who?

          Well earned – I’m glad he’s got the option to do that. And I’m sure he’ll be near the top of Andy Farrell’s contacts for analysis… And I’m sure every Irishman will forever be willing to buy him a pint, and he’ll be forever welcome back in Eire.

        • Bakkies

          That’s what probably will happen.

  • Jack

    now if paying Cheika out is a problem, I have the solution – Millionaires Cam Clyne and Bill Pulver, who signed him can foot the bill to flick him – what say youse?

    • Bakkies

      Agreed.

  • Bakkies

    Apparently the latest news from Georgina is that Naivalu had slept in after being out drinking on SA.

    Comments from Matt Burke on Cheika he may be right. Too much clout within Floury Twats aka Fawlty Towers to get the boot.

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/enough-is-enough-cannon-fires-up-at-rugby-australia-20181126-p50iga.html

  • I personally would love to have Jake White as our coach after the WC. Realistically, there is no way that Cheika is leaving before the WC with only 4-5 games left. But despite his unpopularity, Jake the Snake is a fantastically good coach. If anyone can remember back that far, he coached SA when they regularly had 3 teams in the bottom 4 of super rugby, and still kept SA competitive. When they actually had two good teams he won the World Cup. His season with the Brumbies was also a revelation. The previous year with a star studded cast they came second last. The stars all left and he took on a team of nobodies, and through intelligent play turned them into finalists.

  • Btw: I’m surprised more is not being made about the TMO decision turning over our first try for a forward pass. There’s a fairly easy way to assess whether the ball went backwards out of the hands. If the passer doesn’t accelerate after passing the ball and is in front of the receiver when the ball is caught, then the ball must have come backwards out of the hands. Despite slowing down, DHP is still at least a meter in front of Kerevi when he receives the ball.

    https://youtu.be/lqV4sL4uZN4

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Gold and concur 1000%

  • Patrick

    Thanks, appreciate the offer. Not.

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