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Mondays Rugby News sees Kafer’s view on Folau, Wild Brumbies, Rebels looking for the edge and, Blitzbok blitz Fiji.


 Kafer Savages Folau!

Kurtley Beale and Rod Kafer

Kurtley Beale and Rod Kafer

Rod Kafer has gone hard at Folau over on Foxsport. Christy Doran’s article headlined

Wallabies stronger on the field without Israel Folau on field says Rod Kafer

Tells it how it is.

While praising the dual international’s athletic brilliance and unique skill set, Kafer said that at international rugby Folau had been found wanting at times and that the Wallabies’ balance had been compromised by playing him at fullback.

“If we just take the Wallabies view, we’ve struggled to find actually Israel’s best position for the Wallabies,” Kafer told Fox Sports.

“He is a player that brings some real unique characteristics.

“But … in international rugby I don’t think he’s been an outstanding player and I think we compensate around him, we have to pick different players in different positions.

“I think the game has in some ways moved on.”

Kafer also questioned Folau’s work ethic and alluded to him being a selfish player.

“This is a guy that has got unbelievable skills, but I don’t necessarily see him as a great team player,” Kafer said.

“His work ethic’s not great, he doesn’t work that hard off the ball (and) defensively there are issues.

“I’m not a massive fan.”

 

 Wild Brumbies

Christian Lealiifano settles the Brumbies

Christian Lealiifano settles the Brumbies

In the absence of a Waratahs game, the SMH’s Eamonn Tiernan has gone all gooey for the Brumbies win against the Lions. And didn’t they need a win! The Brumbies have been teetering on the edge of a big cull but this will keep things chugging along for a few weeks at least.

A few quotes from the article:

The Lions featured in the past three Super Rugby deciders, but it was the Brumbies who looked like title contenders after taking their chances in the eight-try contest.

The Brumbies’ third win from eight games keeps them within touching distance in the Australian conference, but still seven points behind the leading Melbourne Rebels.

Wallabies star David Pocock was a late scratching, but the ACT men muscled up without him against a physical Lions forward pack in front of 7541 fans.

 Brumbies livewire fullback Tom Banks returned to form with a stellar performance, while former NRL player Tom Wright overcame an early yellow card to score.
I’ve got to say that Wright fella at 12 went alright. Very impressive second half.

 Rebels soft?

Billy Meakes in space.

Billy Meakes in space.

The Rebels got dusted by the Stormers Friday night but, Billy Meakes thinks they dropped the ball physically and have to find their edge before this weekends game against those dastardly Waratahs.

“It was a little bit embarrassing to be honest,” Meakes said.

“We pride ourselves on our physicality and that was the biggest area we fell short.

 “Credit to the Stormers, they came out all guns blazing at the end of a big tour. They played some really good rugby and unfortunately we just weren’t on.”

Meakes said his side didn’t meet their own standards for physicality and responding to the relentless aggression from the Stormers.

“It’s more of a lesson for us,” Meakes said.

“You can’t expect to rock up to any game in Super Rugby and get a win. It’s an extremely hard competition and we just didn’t prepare as well as we did in the past, and on the back of that we got touched up.

 The Waratahs are expected to be without fullback Israel Folau but does that make them stronger or weaker?

 BlitzBoks Produce Stunning Comeback

South African Blitzbokke are the 2017 HSBC Sydney 7s champions. Photo Credit: Mike Harper

South African Blitzbokke are the 2017 HSBC Sydney 7s champions. Photo Credit: Mike Harper

 

The BlitzBoks produced a stunning second-half comeback to beat Fiji 20-19 in the Cup Final of the Singapore Sevens on Sunday.

The BlitzBoks, who have only won two of their 30 World Rugby Sevens Series Cup titles in Asia, scored 20 unanswered points in the second half after being 0-19 down at half-time.

The Cup final, from the start to the finish, was an exceptional contest and one of the most gripping this world series. Fiji flew in the opening seven minutes, looking unstoppable, as Aminiasi Tuimaba, Napolioni Bolaca and Vilimoni Botitu made their intensity count on the scoreboard.

With a 19-0 cushion, it looked as if they would retain the title that they won 12 months ago, something no side has ever been able to do, but South Africa had other ideas.

Youngster Kurt-Lee Arendse commenced their fightback, the Player of the Final Angelo Davids followed alongside Ryan Oosthuizen one minute later. In the final seconds, South Africa remained two points down before Selvyn Davids connected with a late penalty and they held Fiji out to complete the job.

The result means that South Africa remain in fourth place in the world series standings with 121 points but open up a 14-point cushion over fifth-placed England (107 points). Fiji, now on 142 points, cut the USA’s lead at the top of the standings to just three points with New Zealand sitting in third (130 points).

With the complexion of the world series standings going into the tournament, the USA, Fiji and New Zealand all had the potential to secure qualification for Tokyo 2020. However with the twists and turns of the two days, none were able to achieve the world series points required to do so and the race for early Olympic Games qualification continues.

The next stop on the World Rugby Sevens Series will be London on 25-26 May before the series reaches its conclusion in Paris, the weekend after.

  • idiot savant

    Tiger Woods wins Masters on his way to Hell. Izzy exclusive….

    • Amazing effort but his balls aren’t oval.

      • idiot savant

        How do you know?

      • Parker

        But they’re dimpled.

  • Andrew Luscombe

    The mood at the Diamond Valley Region Idolaters Club meeting yesterday was pretty grim. Not even Marjorie’s lamingtons could break the sense of impending doom. The expression on Brian’s face will live with me for a long time.

  • First article up.

    • That’s two.

      • juswal

        GAGR first! Live news feed!

  • juswal

    South Africa recovered from 0-19 to beat Fiji 20-19 in the Singapore Sevens final.

  • idiot savant

    Why didnt Kafe say this before all the fuss? Is it because he was cowed by Cheik? Mind you I agree with him. Izzy was a fixture in last years run of record losses.

    • me too.

      Should make that a hashtag!

    • GO THE Q REDS

      Because he’s a “hindsight is amazing” pussey! He’s been known to admit Folou is one of the 1st picked in a Wallaby squad. He’s also been known to go along with the notion Folou is one of the few Wallabies thst would be in a World Squad.
      Kaffer is an clown! Way to keep your emotions and bias in check.. .. “Mr Wallaby Skills Advisor”…..

      • Gallagher

        Wasn’t he runner up to World Player of the Year a few years back, and won Waratahs and John Eales (Wallaby) medals?

      • Jcr

        100% hindsight, if they run he’d say they should of kicked , if they kicked he’d say they should of run . If they scored he’d say he could see them building to that . Rod Chaffer, tool !

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Thanks Sully

    Nice of Kafer to come out with this but where the hell has this been for the last couple of years. Up to now he’s done nothing to challenge all the people blowing smoke up Folau’s arse saying how good he is. I’d love to see Cheika’s response

    Brumbies were very good but I’d like to see them perform as good away from home. I think this is a real challenge for them even more than their half time wobbles.

    Rebels definitely has a bad day. If it’s a one off it’s not too much of a problem but they really need a,win this week. I think this week is almost the game that will define them. Win and they are the real deal, however if they can’t beat the Tahs then they are only pretenders.

    • To be fair to Kafe, Most of us thought the same thing.

      • David Creagh

        Yes but most of us are not in a position to say it and reach an audience like Kafer does. I think he has hinted at it before and has not really subscribed to the hyperbole of your Kearns’, Mitchell’s and Horan’s.

        • Ian

          Yeah, I have certainly seen reservation when Kafer ever discussed Folau. But, until now, Kafer was in some form an employer of Folaus’, so the feedback had always been in the line of “I would like to see….” etc. You can’t go straight to the “He’s useless” approach when you are trying to get the best out of them.

      • HK Red

        We did think all those things and we voiced them, but I’ve seem nothing from Kate. He’s been Wallaby high performance manager for nearly two years now, and never said a word. I would suggest, that without Folau’s tweet and the subsequent fallout, he still would have said nothing.

    • Anonymous bloke

      My thoughts too about the Brumbies away from home. Hopefully we can put a string of consistent games together on tour.

    • Keith Butler

      You’re spot on KRL. This week is a must win for the Rebels. Looking at their fixtures, I cannot see them beating the Chiefs even at home and the Canes and Saders away, not likely. The Bulls at home will also be very difficult. Sunwolves away could be another banana skin, so the home games against the Tahs and Reds must be won.

    • Ian

      I dunno, I think Kafer has been pretty honest in his assessment of Folau, every time he has some feedback for him. Have you ever heard him say “But” when talking about David Pocock?

      Kafer is honest, and doesn’t seek out the big controversial statements when talking about the team and players, that is Greg Martins job. Kafer has always had reservations about Folau, the use of Folau and what else Folau could do.

      But, bright side, Tom mother-fricking Banks! That bloke will serve us very well.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Yeah although up until this weekend Banks has been a bit quiet. Let’s hope we see some consistency from him

    • Bernie Chan

      Agree with all of that. Kafer has had his role for a bit but until now never spoke up…Izzy is a fine player but not anywhere near being so important that he is one of the top 2 earners.

    • Happyman

      Hi Mqte
      Not a surprise that Kafer waits until Falou is down when putting in the boot. This is the sort of feedback that a real commentator would be putting forward when he was at the top. Lets be real we are not the smartest rugby brains in Australia and we have been going on for a couple of years that there were parts fo Falous game that were deficient.

      The Stormers had the game plan and execution to put the Rebels away everyone has known about it it will be interesting to see how they combat that game plan now.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Yeah the thing that disappointed me with the Rebels was their lack of ability to react and change. Something i think they need to work on

        • Happyman

          I don’t know if you are aware fo the work of Ben Darwin (former Australian Prop). He does a lot of work around cohesion as a factor to team success.
          Very interesting and for the Rebels being a pretty new team in terms of cohesion they will still have issues with gelling for at least the next 5 games.
          Part of the Crusaders success would be down to cohesion with almost all of the players coming through a specific path and knowing the way the team plays.

        • Keith Butler

          Very true Happyman. I reckon it will take two seasons for the Rebs to truely hit their straps. A place in the finals this year would be a good result.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          I don’t but I do know a cohesive team of players will beat a group of stars without it any day

    • Andy

      Kafer hit the nail on the head. Despite being amazingly talented and incredibly athletic he is not a team player and never really has been. This incident, again he put himself before the team. He is definitely replaceable and despite potentially losing 7 points a game we are probably saving 7 points a game due to his defence

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Mate no disagreement I just wish he’d been outspoken earlier. I think 14+ per game myself

        • Andy

          Fair call, I agree. But he is a fox sports hack. It would be in their contracts not to stir the pot

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Which is sad. They should be the ones doing the stirring

    • Parker

      It’s going to be good watching the Bernard v Quade match up.

  • Nicholas Wasiliev

    Cheika has announced that he won’t be picking Folau any more. Honestly, I’m okay with that.

    Yes, it’s a major attacking weapon lost, but the one place where we are not lacking talent is the back three. In fact, I’d argue it frees us up a bit more, as you can now have blokes like Reece Hodge who, while not as athletically talented, are much more skilled when it comes to playing rugby (can kick, can control the game a lot better etc.).

    • David Creagh

      That is really big of Cheik considering the NSWRU and RA have stood him down pending his Code of Conduct review/contraction termination.

      Agree regarding the state of the back three but I suspect Cheik will pick Koribiete.

    • RF

      I like Cheika. I don’t think this is his call though. If he is available for him to be selected and the players would accept him then he should be selected (or omitted) on merit.

      Should be RA’s call

      • John Miller

        Merit? Why should Cheik introduce a brand new, untested criterion to his near-perfect Wallabies selection approach?

    • Geoffro

      dhp,hodge,maddocks,banks,naivalu,pulu,speight,maybe beale.I can handle those guys covering the back three fine as they’re all decent rugby players but you know cheika will pick korobeite and probably slip ashley-cooper in as a winger too…frustrating.

      • onlinesideline

        AAC and Gits do go back a long way – it couldddd happen

  • onlinesideline

    Couldnt agree more with Kafer (regardless of his motivation / sincerety – who knows)
    Great athlete but had some glaring deficiences.
    He was a good finisher but often IMO the hard stuff had already been done by the time he got the ball. Thats the brutal truth (except for his gary owen finishes)

    Now that we will get a tradionall rugby union FB, if we can get rid of that nasty Pooper and deal with who will play at 12, we may have a chance of looking like a normal balanced, in position, side again. Wouldnt that be weird …..

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      I still think Kaf should have kept his mouth shut. He’s been commentating for the entire 6 years of Folau’s career and while he often said that Folau should go to the wing he also often spoke about how deadly Folau was.

      He just comes across as a bit smug and smart after the fact to come and say this now. Saying it any time in the last 6 years would have been brave, but this isn’t.

      And I agree with Rod. I think it will force us to adapt a less predictable and more dangerous attack.

      • onlinesideline

        Could come back to bite him maybe. But with the establishment (Cheika and especially Hooper) sounding pretty peed off, I think the inner sanctum is unanmous – that the timing this second time round is complelety selfish. This is 2 seasons in a row Hooper has had to deal with this mid season as a Waratah and Wallaby. There are only so many pre-season hill sprints a bloke is prepared to compromise I think. I’d say Hooper has wiped him.

        • Brumby Runner

          How many evil eyes make up a golf driver? Physic (sic) (try Psychic) energy – now I’ve heard the lot.

        • onlinesideline

          Ive got more

  • Custard Taht

    Pretty disappointed with the Rebels performance on the weekend. They needed to win this game and show they have the consistency to make a run in the finals. The forwards really need to step up in the next game. The lack of consistency isn’t just a Rebel problem, but an Australian team/player problem. This has been a problem for Australian Rugby for number of years, yet there seems to be improvement made, nor any end to it insight.

    Regardless of Cheika has the coach, this lack of consistency and propensity for players to just go missing or not show up, is a major reason why the Wallabies have bugger all chance at winning the RWC.

    • Nutta

      I was reflecting how it was actually a bit of a ‘return to form’ from a cynical-Australian perspective in that we finally have one team in Oz playing flat with a bit of creativity that forces opposing defenders to make a choice, but hand-in-hand with it went the almost anti-Jarpy lack of bullocking physicality! Back to 80’s we go…

      • joy

        Ah yes, when winning for us was a thing of beauty – the grand slam, sigh.

  • Sevenwithasixonmyback

    With Israel unwanted in the Wallabies and Waratahs, perhaps there is some room for him to don that Sydney Uni jersey he’s occasionally been seen wearing and play some proper Club Rugby. Might show his allegiance to the game, a-la QC.
    Problem… Uni’s Fullback can kick.

    • Nutta

      I reckon we will see Brand O’Conner in a Pirates jersey before Izzy in an Albury Steamers jersey.

      • Sevenwithasixonmyback

        UP THE MIGHTY STEAMERS!
        J O’C did at least draw a crowd to Concord on one occasion. He meant well, surely…

      • onlinesideline

        just curious – is there any chance JOC could sign with twiggy ball in a few months and be eligable – A 3 amigos farewall in the RWC 2019 final – length of the field multiple hands, QC step / flick pass to JOC on the burst, onto Beale who chips regathers and offloads to QC under posts, who then shhhhes 50 000 kiwis to win Bill – just curious ?

        • Nutta

          Given the improbabilities entwined throughout that mix of ‘maybe/perhaps/could/would/should/may’, but the multi-generational stories that would result (ie if everyone who ‘was’ at Woodstock was actually there it would have been a bigger show than Operation Barbarossa!), it must surely now become an election promise for someone. Surely. I’ll go eat an onion and make it so.

        • onlinesideline

          is that a no then ?

        • Nutta

          On basis of realistically feasible – no.

          On the basis of Stuff-of-legend – it would be something even a old cynic like me would enjoy. It would rank near Radike Samo’s 2011 try.

          https://youtu.be/hmD0CYyq6uQ

        • Greg

          I was talking to Samo… he actually received the ball in our own in-goal and beat many more players than shown in the video!!

          Who was that 10 btw!

          and bugger me sideways… a 7 in 7!

    • joy

      2017 SR tackle success Ben Smith 68% Folau 75%
      2018 Smith 87% Folau 79%
      2019 to date Smith 68% Folau 75%
      You can’t win an argument with bullshit.

      • TouchFinderGeneral

        Shhhhhhh!

      • Glenn

        Again please site your reference?

      • Sevenwithasixonmyback

        Hey, sorry. Not trying to bullshit anybody. Just never actually seen Israel Folau make an effective tackle and after some celebrated career in AFL, I would have thought he might be able to kick.
        He is a shit Fullback, regardless your stats.

      • Geoff Buckland

        you can make up any stuff you like , doesn’t mean it’s true. Folau is a shit defender , Smith is brilliant

  • RF

    “in international rugby I don’t think he’s been an outstanding player”

    He’s our 3rd highest try-scorer ever

    • Greg

      @RF disagree and this discussion is not new here.

      Taking the ball in the air – tick
      Drawing attention from multiple defenders – tick
      Excellent step – tick

      Kicking?
      Tackling?
      Passing both ways?
      Positional play?
      Always appears engaged in the game?

      not so many ticks.

      • RF

        Yes his game is limited and I don’t disagree with the areas of his game you criticise. But he is so incredibly strong where his strengths lie that he is breaking records

        • Greg

          He is not the only weak link at all… but for every brilliant break you make, if you can’t tackle we are in deep do do. Beale and Foley have the same challenge (plus crabbing).

          We are killed by the ABs for this every time.

          These issues are quite separate to the current controversy but we cannot build a team if each player does not recognise their limitations and develop their skills. If they are unable to do this…. someone else needs to have a go.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          To me you smash it in the 2nd last sentence. I don’t understand why so many Wallabies aren’t developing their skills further. There are so many of them with weaknesses that never improve and it shits me to tears

    • David Creagh

      Too much is made about the number of tries that he has scored. How many of them were running into holes created by others where he just had to run over the try line? I’ll give you the tip, most of them. Anybody could have scored those ones. When was the last time he made a try saving tackle, or did the hard yards in the middle when the piggies were struggling, when was the last time he set up a try by sucking in defenders and offloading in close? He did some of things early in his career but none recently. Rod is bang on the money here. The only thing Folau thinks of is himself as shown by his recent and prior actions.

      He had 10+ years to address his numerous deficiencies in his game, in effect his job. He had full time coaching was being paid a metric shit-tin of cash and was either; to stupid, to lazy or to arrogant to learn those skills.

      I have called him out on these forums for years but most people including the Fox sports commentators bought into the hype about his “ability in the air” rather than what he did not bring to the game.

      For me the most damning is the lack of team spirt, the fact that he does not care about the jersey most of us would bleed for (I suspect that he uses them to wipe down the Range Rover they want back), and the I don’t give a shit about the fans attitude.

      • RF

        Disagree.

        Folau is achieving this is the worst Australian team of the professional era. This isn’t a team which is tearing oppositions apart and allowing anyone just to finish off tries. For all of his limitations to his game, Folau is finishing them off and this isn’t even a prolific Australian side.

        I feel that the time has come for rugby and Folau to part ways but let’s not rewrite history.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          In my opinion both Folau’s fans and his detractors exaggerate his strengths and weaknesses.

        • Who?

          Exactly………

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Part of the reason they’re so poor though is because they have used a ‘give it to Izzy’ attack plan for the last 4 years.

      • sambo6

        He was/is great in the air, but agreed….never seen izzy work like this for a try….

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrEwPjdi9tw

        • Gipetto

          They dropped Latham for Mat Rogers for the 2003 World Cup.

        • HK Red

          That still irks me

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Absofriggenlutely DC. I think he’s been overrated for years

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Overrated is holding Barret back and playing Cruden till he simply couldn’t be covered for anymore……

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Not really. I think Cruden was more of a classical 10 than Barrett and I think they thought Barrett carried more risk at times. TBH they probably still do to a degree

      • joy

        “when was the last time he set up a try by sucking in defenders and offloading in close?”

        In his last game. He leads offloads with 19 this year. 29 last year and 27 in 2017.

        2017 tries 9 try assists 3, 2018 tries 11 try assists 3, 2019 to date tries 4 try assists 4.

        Do want me to post this in braille?

        • Glenn

          Please site your reference?

        • onlinesideline

          is that so freakish compared to other FB in top 5 sides ?

        • Who?

          Great point on try assists. There’s only two Aussies ahead of him on the list. Cooper and Genia. No Tah is ahead of him (or equal to him) on the list.

      • GO THE Q REDS

        Sorry but that’s rubbish.. .. EVERY player has issues and deficiencies. Barret can’t tackle either. McKenzie is a wet paper bag. BOTH straight into the ABs because of what they offer on attack. Folou scores tries and beats tackles at will. …. often leading a host of attacking stats season long. Such a stupid in winnable debate people trying to suggest Folou isn’t a freak!

      • onlinesideline

        mate I totally agree and have been saying it for years to. He was the code poster boy but elephant in the room playing wise.

        After taking a long kick he would canter back and do a little hop skip jump before being smashed and turned over adding huge stress to the team. He cant kick, he has a big step at full flight, but so do most people at full flight, he has no little step, he is not fast off the mark, he is not fast over 100, his kicking and passing were unco (lets be homest).

        There was always only one position he would hve excelled at and thats a wing, not in the style of a drew mitchell finisher with speed but rather his real weapon (aside from gary owen) and that was his rugby league ability to drag 3 on his back over the line 15-20 meters out. Hes bloody streong. That was where he was good on the wing. Other than that below average and a burden. And I completely agree re his tries – many were gimmes created by team mates. To me Izzy was a marketing weapon facing the NRL but reveleaed our fundamental insecurity as a code that we are still not prepared to make the hard selections and be true. When we do that we will start winning. I hope this is a turning point and that Banks and co will fire up the backline like we havent had for yearssssss.

  • onlinesideline

    BREAKING NEWS: Israel Folua signs with South Syney / Greg Inglis signs 1 year contract with Waratahs.

    Ok – I’ll grab me coat……

  • Jason

    I have thought the Wallabies could do without Folau for a long time, not that he isn’t one of our best players — he is, but he isn’t THAT much better compared to who we could play in his place.

    Thing with Folau as good as he is, he’s got massive tactical flaws and clearly can’t cover over those. Ultimately this means he’s an amazing Super Rugby fullback and a really useful winger, but he’s not Genia or someone who is unreplaceable, we actually have a host of quality wingers and fullbacks.

    As for if the ARU thought that, clearly they didn’t, or they were very dumb with their contacting because they paid him like he’s irreplaceable, so either they thought he was irreplaceable or they were very poor negotiators. I really think the Wallabies needed to move away from the ‘old boys club’ that they were drawing on for the last World Cup where they can, guys like Nick Phipps, AAC and TPN. How do we expect Joe Powell or Finanga / BPA etc, to be able to play at test level if we give him ZERO test playing time.

    • GO THE Q REDS

      Mate he’s ALOT better. Just look up the stats.

      • Jason

        Maybe in his attacking stats, but his tactical aspects at fullback are very poor, and I’m not saying he’s not better, just that he’s hardly irreplaceable like say Genia.

    • Gipetto

      Folau been carrying a lot of lacklustre, out of form Tah favourites for some time.

  • Christopher

    So Stormers>>>Rebels>>>Reds>>Stormers+Brumbies>>Lions>Rebels

    Consistency definitely missing – or its just a really close comp – bar those pesky Sadists.

    • Who?

      Could it be that there’s differences in home/away, reffing, and also styles..? The Lions/Rebels game was in SA, the Ref went 20-1 with the penalty count to the home side (and obviously, the Veldt!). The ref didn’t help the Lions nearly so much in Canberra.
      The Stormers beat the Rebels because they dealt better with the game plan they faced from the Rebels than the game plan presented by the Reds, which enabled McDermott to play a great game.
      .
      Just pointing out there’s valid reasons for the inconsistencies in outcomes beyond, “Teams can be inconsistent.” :-)

  • StewedP

    For once I agree with Rod Kafer. Been saying the same for years.

    • GO THE Q REDS

      The same Years Izzy has literally been carrying the Wallabies……hes broken so many records and leads so many lists it’s not even funny. He’s a freak and anyone who denies that is simply biased……Kaffer was sprukking that Folou was one of the only wallabies that would make a world team just last week……now he’s Mr hindsight specialist and all of a sudden Folou sucks. Righteoo. …

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    That 7’s final must have been good. I missed it unfortunately and didn’t get to tape it. NZ had a shit tournament and need to step up

  • joy

    If Izzy goes all those other Christian players might just go with him. With Islanders overseas being counselled for pressing the like button this could end up being the biggest strike in human history. Prey God please make this happen.

    Incidentally, how many of those drunks, criminals, thieves, fence jumpers, liars and atheists do you guys all really think are offended by his position.

    • Greg

      Joy,
      quite possibly none.

      For me, the issue is only about homosexuals. I accept this is Mr Folau’s view. My belief is that it is a dangerous view that could have devastating consequences for a group of vulnerable people.

      • onlinesideline

        Weak argument. What about all the vatican / priests around the world who have systematically covered up their global pedo racket. You want to talk about role models affecting young kids ?? The world is far more threatening a place than Izzys tweet.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Vatican Priests aren’t employees of RA, so I don’t see the relevance.

          RA are charged with running the sport in order to maximise its health, finances and reputation. Whether you personally agree or not, Folau’s tweets have threatened all of three of the above.

          Unless you’d seriouslg prefer RA to put an employee that has broken his word to them over the entire sport, then you can’t disagree with how RA are acting.

        • onlinesideline

          I said in my first post on this, Izzy should because he breached knowingly. No question.

          But he shouldnt have been muzzled in the first place. The only reason the offended are rioting is because they want blood and worse they want beliefs contrary to theirs muzzled. Thats intolerance. They want tolerance only of the stuff they approve of.

          The Mob are muscling in on corporations to hang their employees out to dry. This has to change. They will never please all, in fact in satisfying the gay community they have given the middle finger to their most loyal supporters, the Pacific islanders who are pro christian.

          Who is RA to make the call on whats whats divisive. Many people agree with Izzy. I was making the case that the gay 11 year can be affected by a myriad of variables in life. Izzy didnt call for violence on gay kids or gay adults. He expressed a religious worldview. There are 2 sides.

          How has the health of the game in real terms been impacted by the gay community protesting. The gay community try and muzzle anyone who they perceive are a threat to them. Since when has the health of a sporting code been dependent on its head governing body taking stances on social issues, bar recently due to social media ?

          The gay community are free to live their lifestyle in peace. They also make bigoted and cynical judgements against people who believe in G-d and the Bible – ALL THE TIME. Their advertising for events constantly take swipes at believers as being neanderthals, stone age primitives, they constantly mock the church, the preisthood, yet when the shoe is on the other foot they RIOT. Hypocrites !!

        • joy

          Spot on. The activist community ‘s aim is to create disharmony and they won’t stop at a win over Izzy. Their long term objective includes dismantling the concept of family and destroying democracy (both of which are dependent on free speech).

        • joy

          RA were naïve to think an employee would betray his faith to satisfy their hunger for a goodie two shoe’s world where everybody can be made to agree with each other. This is the very reason why dictating harmony (socialism) has a very poor record of success. It’s far more productive to accept people for what they are and get on with it. And that applies to both sides.

  • MungBean

    All we need now is for Hooper to come out as a Moonie and the penny will drop about him being the team’s best player in no particular position.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Hahaha true

  • Geoffro

    Dont think hes rubbish by a longshot but hes not as crucial to Wallaby success as some may make out.The man he replaced as games greatest tryscorer never even made it to a world cup final for all his ability and a few players could probably rival his other stats if they werent better ball players and just selfishly backed themselves at every instant.The guys that put him into space and kick to him or can support him and catch his often dodgy offloads shoud be lauded as much

    • Who?

      The guys who consistently overrun his offloads will at least know that there’s not going to be anyone offloading in that channel anymore…
      Seriously, it’s like the Tahs have been coached out of running decent support lines! Look at Cooper’s try against the SunWolves. All the support runners were directly behind the ball carrier, sweeping to the side when they realised a pass was on, but able to drive over and secure the breakdown if it wasn’t on. Compare that with where Tahs support runners are – generally, wide and flat, so the second a player draws and takes contact, they’re in front of the ball carrier, unable to secure the breakdown and unable to receive a pass.
      People have whinged about Folau’s offloads this year, but the vast majority of the passes that were dropped were due to support runners being far too flat.

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