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Monday’s Rugby News

MONDAY’S RUGBY NEWS

It’s Monday!  Let’s have a look at what happened around the rugby world over the weekend. We’ve got Super Rugby, Provincial rugby, Premier rugby, Sevens and the new Director of Rugby weighs in on a few topics.


Super Rugby Round 13

The Rebels again beat the Reds.  An injury to Cooper is a concern.

The Rebels again beat the Reds. An injury to Cooper is a concern.

Auckland hosted Wellington on Friday night.  Despite applying huge amounts of pressure during the first half, the Blues were trailing at the break as the Hurricanes grabbed any chance they were given to score points.  The second 40 started a little better for the home side after capitalised on a one-man advantage to draw within 2 before a Jordie (correction: Beauden, thanks Brunby Runner for pointing out the error) Barrett intercept made sure of the result.

Melbourne welcomed Queensland for their second meeting this year.  The Reds were the first on the board through a penalty but the Rebels got into gear and only had themselves to blame they didn’t go into oranges with a bigger lead. To their credit, the young Reds side kept finding their way back into the contest and will rue the indiscipline as the Rebels won 30-24.

Loftus was the scene of a massacre as the Bulls proved hapless against the visiting Crusaders. A brace to Mo’unga and a hat-trick to Reece only accounted for five of the Crusaders’ seven tries as they obliterated the home side 45-13.  The home crowd had to wait until the 57th minute when Odendaal finally gave them something to cheer about.

In Dunedin the Highlanders were looking in command at 26-13 after 40minutes.  The Jaguares only try was a long-range effort topped off with a nearly perfectly weighted kick.  Rugby is a game of clichés and of two halves. The second stanza saw Otago add only the two penalty goals meanwhile the Jaguares were full of running adding two converted tries.  The locals had already done enough as they hung tough, 32-26.

The weekend went from bad to worse for SA fans.  The Sharks held a 6-point lead with 12 minutes to play before conceding a try, their lead only saved by a missed conversion.  From the ensuing restart the Chiefs managed to go 80metres in one phase to put them up 29-23.  The Sharks held the ball for numerous phases after the siren but were unable to score and will be cursing their momentary lapses that ultimately cost them the match.

Joberg was the setting for the Lions and Waratahs.  The teams were almost inseparable on the stats sheet and on the field. After an enterprising first half, each team running in three tries, the second half saw only a try apiece and a lone penalty goal being the only scoring.  Speaking of the sides being inseparable and of penalties, there was one stat where the teams differed greatly.  The 11-2 penalty count to the home side left a few scratching their heads.  Final score, 29-28.

With a tribute to their mothers on their back the Brumbies did them (and all their supporters) proud.  The Sunwolves were competitive early and the TMO was needed to decide if the visitors were to be first on the board.  They weren’t to be.  After the early exchanges the Brumbies got into top gear.  Perhaps stinging after the recent criticism of their play the home side piled on 5 unanswered tried to run 33-0 winners and take top spot in the Aussie conference.

Premier and Provincial* Wrap-Up

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The ‘Quins flew high this weekend.

Firstly, to Hong Kong.
The Force played their final match of the Asia Showcase leg of Global Rapid Rugby.  The South China Tigers made the Force work for it, pulling back an early try by the Force to eek out a narrow lead late in the first half.
It was a different story in the second half as the Force added four tries to their tally and held the Tigers out.  Final score, 40-16.  The win sees the Force remain undefeated this year.

In the *other* Newcastle (not Sydney’s Ipswich) Will Skelton’s Saracens came from behind to defeat Scott Fardy’s Leinster to win the European Champions Cup.  (yes yes, they aren’t technically Skelton’s nor Fardy’s…)

To more local results-

QLD’s Hospital Cup played its round 7
The Filth defeated UQ 48-20
Norths mauled Easts 47-13
Wests got the job done on Bond 40-27
GPS were too good for Sunnybank 33-21

Shute Shield was incredibly tight with only 16 points difference in total.
Norths fell to Uni at home 24-29
Eastern Suburbs travelled to Eastwood and came home with a W 29-27
Southern Districts hosted Western Sydney and it was the visitors winning 25-24
West Harbour and Gordon played out a 23-all draw
And Warringah THUMPED (in the context of the round) Randwick 35-27.

South Australia’s premier grade’s round 3 was a little more lop-sided.
Onkaparinga were too good for Brighton 39-16
Burnside edged Old Collegians 31-27
Southern Suburbs crushed Adelaide University 65-5
Port Adelaide even more so crushed Elizabeth 65-0
Woodville pumped Barossa 63-13

ACT’s round 6 saw-
Queanbeyan knocked off Wests, 34-26
Uni-Norths demolished Easts 48-12
Gungahlin prevailed in a tight affair over Vikings 26-25

In Victoria-
Footscray were outclassed by Box Hill 50-22
Melbourne proved much too strong for Melbourne uni 38-13
Power House did away with Endeavour Hills 53-19
Harlequins put Moorabbin to the sword 71-14.

Over in the west-
Cottesloe travelled to Kalamunda and got the choccies, 29-25
Wests won away against Bayswater 68-12
Uni (UWA) went down to Nedlands 29-26
Wanneroo scraped past Palmyra 13-10
ARKs defeated Cavaliers 18-8
Associates dismantled Joondalup 42-0
Southern Lions mauled Curtin Uni 65-5.

(*look, I didn’t know where to put these results in.)

Langford Sevens

Ellia Green just keeps crossing the line.

Ellia Green just keeps crossing the line.

Our Gold Medal-winning ladies got through day one in Canada undefeated.

A huge win in their opening pool game saw them dispatch Ireland 33-5.  All of the Aussie big names contributed with Quirk, Dick, Caslick, Petite and Green all getting their names on the score sheet. The only blemish- late try to green team.

Facing Brazil in their second match the Aussies quickly fell behind with the South Americans nabbing a try in the opening minute.  From that point it was all one-way traffic with the Aussies running in 7 tries and adding Paki, Sykes and Meakes to their list of try-scorers.

The team’s third and final pool match was against much stiffer competition.  Sitting in second place overall, boosted by their win in Kitakyushu and playing in front of their home crowd Canada came to play.  The home side crossed for their first try in the opening minute but it was the Aussies that had the better of the first half, scoring well after the 7th minute to take 14-7 lead into the rest.  The Canadians were first to score in the second half to pull back level before the Aussies crept away again through Green, Tonegato and a second to Green to round out their pool matches with a 29-14 victory.

Facing pool B’s Russia in the Cup quarter final the Aussies again found themselves on the back foot early.  A third-minute try had them trailing but a flurry of points in the 5th, 7th and 9th minutes got them back in front before Russia got one back, it was as close as the Ruskies would get as the Aussies got over the white line another two times to win 31-12 and set up a semi-final with France.

France were the semi-final opponents and for the first time in  a few matches the Aussies were on the board first with Samantha Treherne getting over the chalk.  The French then got themselves on the scorer’s sheet before a brace to the seven’s series latest centurion, Emma Tonegato got Australia out to a 14-point lead with 5 minutes to play.  A dashing run from turnover ball saw France claw themselves back within a converted try in the dying stages.  A late forced penalty at the breakdown saved Australia’s skin and they now face New Zealand in the Cup final.

Aussies not to Emulate Kiwis

C'mon mate, we haven't lost a test with you as DoR!!

C’mon mate, we haven’t lost a test with you as DoR!!

New Zealand sets some wonderful examples for the rest of the world.  Those couple of islands off the east coast of Australia are home to spectacular natural features, politicians that make you feel good and damned brilliant rugby players.

Part of their success in rugby has been put down to their centralised system.  Australia, however, under the guidance of their new Director of Rugby, Scott Johnson, shan’t be pursuing such a system.

Johnson has ideas across of a range of topics but bringing together all the provinces under a central plan seemed to be dismissed.  Rather, the differences each location brings to the table should make us stronger. Or so we’re told.

Speaking on Fox Johnson said,

“We like the point of differences that the provincial teams bring. I do believe we should have an aligned system. One stick doesn’t make that much damage but if you put them all together it’s a pretty good weapon.

“I think we have four really good provincial teams, and if we start working and working together, we can be pretty strong and formidable.

“The four-stick concept is important and we’re going to tap into it.

“I quite like the differences in rugby, I like to bring the skill of that. Because a maul is important in rugby, especially against the northern hemisphere sides. Dan (Brumbies’ coach, Dan McKellar) is a really good coach of that. We would be silly to not discuss that with him.”

Aside from the Brumbies’ clear advantage at the maul one wonders what other strengths the individual franchises bring to the table.  The Reds’ scrum, as formidable as it was last year, has come back to the pack this year, New South Wales’ ability to link play between their forwards and back, while impressive, isn’t exactly unique in world rugby.

Interesting times ahead for Aussie rugby.  Something needs to change.  And soon.

 

 

  • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

    Thanks mate!

    In other news, Matt Toomua just joined the Rebels squad, meaning that if Quade is either not over his concussion, or Wessels wants to rest him to minimise risk, the Rebels have another option.

    Great news for the Rebels, but bad news for the Brumbies..

    • Keith Butler

      Good news for the Rebs. The Brumbies are getting it together at just the right time and have a strong squad. I reckon they may sneak by and take the conference. Just hope that the Rebs don’t cop the Bulls on the rebound after their demolition by the Saders. It will be a dogfight to get into the finals for all sides.

      • GO THE Q REDS

        Best finals run fight for many years!

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        I love that it’s so close. It gives every team a chance to go for it and play the best they can all the way. It’s also making it hard to pick winners.

    • Andrew H

      It also raises the question of where to fit everyone in if they’re all fit and playing well. A nice headache to have in Aussie rugby!

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        I’d get Toomua in at 12, fit the rest in around he and Quade.

        But there are almost always injuries, so I doubt many will be left out because of it.

        • Andrew H

          Then what to do with Billy Meakes? I think he’s been excellent this year.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Yeah overall he’s been very good. Still had games where he has feet for hands. But he’s capable of playing 13 also, so you could move him out to 13 and Hodge to the wing as Koroibete has been atrocious.

        • Andrew H

          Good call.

        • Mart

          That’d be the best move

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Agree with Koroibete, never really stepped up

        • Hoss

          Chip in for his end of season mate. He is fodder.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          I think Kerevi is the best 12 option. Meakes or TK at 13. I’d have Toomua as a 10 back up primarily but also able to play 12 if needed.

        • Parker

          I second that,with the clarification that Toomua be back up to Cooper, not Spanners

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I think there’s no question that Kerevi is our best 12 and TK our best 13.

          Just have to pick a 10 and 15 that works with those two centres.

    • The Jackal

      Really interesting that Leicester just let him go even with a game to go. I know its a meaningless game & they will probably play the kids but in this day & age you just would never think it would happen. Creates big headaches for the Rebels around what their best back line is when everyone is fit. One of To’omua or Cooper will have to be on the bench you would think unless Meakes can play some 13?

      • Bobas

        Koroibete could make a devastating hooker.

        • Greg

          Does he have the hands for it?

        • Hoss

          Mate the lights are on, but the rooms, they are empty.

    • theduke

      Yes, good they have a legitimate back-up at 10. Can Toomua play in the finals? Are there any requirements on number of regular season games played to be eligible?

    • Huw Tindall

      Didn’t realise Toomua can’t play finals footy as wasn’t playing early enough in the season (good rule by the by). Wonder how they’ll use him. Assume Chek et al want a good look at him before TRC but how much does Wessels want to mess with his humming back line heading into finals footy?

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        Is he not? I thought you could be nominated as part of the squad for the finals early in the season.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      I’d like to see him at 10 again. I think he might be a better 3rd option than triple L.

  • Brumby Runner

    Andrew, thanks for the news today. Just a small correction. I think you’ll find it was Beaugan Barrett who took he intercept, not Jordy.

    Brumbies on top, but only temporarily. Expect the Rebels to regain top spot next weekend.

    • Andrew H

      Oh, my bad. I’ll correct it and credit you. Thanks!!

  • Andrew H

    Brumby Runner’s point below has raised an important issue.
    We are all humans that generate these daily news reports, and, like all humans we occasionally make mistakes. If you see something amiss then please do as done below, a friendly nudge to point it out and we shall update the article accordingly.
    Many thanks y’all. The wonderful back and forth in the comments on the news is one of the reasons I enjoy being involved in GAGR so much.

  • Timbo

    Can we talk about the refereeing consistency this last round?
    Ignoring the 11-2 penalty count from the Republic, the blues v hurricanes had some very interesting calls that in some cases cost teams tries. There was also a miss from the refs when Barrett number two attempted to stop a try with his knees making direct contact with the try scorers head.
    Coming to the brumbies game, when banks ‘pilfered’ the ball for their second try, old mate on the ground had been knocked out and as such surely the ref should have blown it for player welfare. They even played past him motionless on the ground while the ponies went coast to coast with a 1 man advantage.
    I’ve noticed the kiwi refs tend to ignore the laws of the game to let the game flow, Aussie refs blow everything up(Gardiner) and saffa refs blow the whistle when it benefits the SA side…

    • adastra32

      And in other, other news. If you want to look at something different but relevant. Catch the European Cup final Leinster vs. Saracens. Incredible intensity. Brutal, Test quality stuff. And yes, Skelton vs. Fardy. I know which of them I’d be looking to help the WB RWC2019 team achieve….

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        You’re righ – Fardy is twice the player Will Skelton is.

      • Keith Butler

        Hardly a fair comparison as Skelton was at 5 and Fardy 6. Skelton wouldn’t make it anyway as lock stocks are pretty good.

        • adastra32

          True Keith, but in terms of overall impact on the game, I think Skelton did better.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          They were pretty comparable – only Leinster were comprehensively outplayed and the Leinster backs were diabolical and let the team down.

          Easier to look good in a team that is utterly dominant.

        • adastra32

          True too – although it probably wasn’t that one-sided. Leinster edged the first half – wasn’t until the two final quarters that Sarries established dominance. I still think that yer man Skelton should be at RWC 2019. Ain’t going to happen though.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I think he performs a similar role to Lukhan Salakaia-Loto in that he’s a big ball runner with great hands and offloading ability. He might be marginally better than LSL at this point, but Lukhan has really performed well at international level in the past, so happy to back the young horse.

          Ringrose had his worst match I’d ever seen.

    • GO THE Q REDS

      I noticed also in the Brummbies game… as soon as the Sunwolves were down a pile of points he started pulling his arm back in at potential infringements! Was rather blatant I thought and very irritating for any rugby enthusiast! Just because a team is getting flogged it doesn’t give them a free pass to high tackle and lay in the ruck….

      • Bobas

        the epitome of a deliberate knock-down wasn’t even a penalty. But I didn’t mind Damon for the most part.

    • Bernie Chan

      Our Women’s 7s team got a dud call on the last kickoff…the Aussie player clearly taps the ball back but the Ref rules “knock on”, NZ feed…game over. Went down 21-17…

  • Brisneyland Local

    Morning GAGR’s. I hope everyone had a great weekend, and made sure their mothers were spoilt accordingly. My random thoughts of the day:
    – Infact I really only have one thought for the day. I listened to the Scott Johnson interview. So points had me excited and some points had me dismayed. The point of which I am most concerned about is the point of centralisation. The factional divide of Australian rugby is killing the game. With all states maintaining a vested interest to their own degree will never enable the game to move forward. Rugby, must, be good for rugby across the whole country. It is pointless to do something for NSWRU that hurts other states and Vicky verca! If you read the The Jersey by Peter Bills, you will get an understanding of the reasons why NZ adopted this and what it has provided them. Before most readers jump in and say “Just because NZ did it doesn’t mean we should!” You are correct. If we do it we do it for the reasons that are pertinent to us! Things that will improve all of our states and the feeder system. Junior rugby, Club rugby, NRC. These things are all symbiotically linked.
    I think centralisation in the case of Aus rugby will be a good thing. Besides we have to change what we are doing, because what we are doing has produced such stellar results for us so far. Particularly in the last 5 years.
    I am concerned that our new head of rugby, in less than a month into the job has basically dismissed one of the central pillars of a probable solution. No major research, no reviews. Even reading all the previous reviews we have done will indicate where our failures lie. I wonder if they will ever release the carefully hidden review into couture with in the players of the RA and RA itself. I don’t think they will be ever brave enough to do that. Which in my mind means they are not really brave enough to completely review the issues and fix the problems warts and all. Daylight is always the best disinfectant.
    Over to you GAGR’s!

    • Happyman

      Mate I also listened to him and was just mostly excited. Much of what I heard was embracing difference while creating alignment from top to bottom.
      Coming from Scotland where money is at a premium I expect his solutions to be a bit more creative. My mail is that he can be a iron fist in a velvet glove. Hopefully this is true as I can name a few who could do with a good fisting.

      • AllyOz

        I read that and thought .. wow quoting Bismarck … good history knowledge … but then it got a bit icky ;)

      • Brisneyland Local

        Look I was impressed, I am just concerned about the language around centralisation. There is a limited window of opportunity here, blink and we miss it!

        • Happyman

          Agreed as long as we are not just focused on Wallaby results as the marker. The rugby public’s perception needs to be more nuanced.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Correct. Success has to be at all levels. Club NRC and Super. We have success there we will have success at the Wallabies. Provided Cheika isnt the coach!

        • Happyman

          Mate after the RWC your prayers will be answered. For mine as long as the next one is not Larkham. But I get the sense that the fifth column has been broken up. Kafer is also out TBH I thought he did not look like he was having a good time talking with SJ.

        • Brisneyland Local

          We need fresh blood. Even if it is an outsider for a few years to break the existing player culture, which I personally think is rotten. Not in all sectors but in at least 50% of the Wallabies. Joe Schmidt would be great. Just someone clean and unknown to the players. Where there is no bias, no expectations or favours.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Mate I’m not sure a Kiwi, even a Kiwi from Europe can do it. I think it needs a local coach as it will be bloody. Having a foreign coach merely allows people to place the blame onto the coach and ignore the real issues. Certainly an impression I got reading Deans book

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yeah but we haven’t hit rock bottom then with Dingo. Besides there is no coach in Aus rugby to be honest that knows “What right looks like!” We need a competent coach, that understands the game and picks on merit.

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Ain’t that true….. Window of opportunity meaning “in before death”

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yep!

    • idiot savant

      Excellent observation BL. You are right to point out that our lack of national cohesion is well seen in our falling results at test and super rugby levels over the last 4 or 5 years. But as I mentioned to Nutta, the hard question though is can head office deliver? What is their level of competency for the task? Im not sure the current board gives me any confidence they can. And as you astutely point out, the fact that Johnson hasn’t dipped his head into the wealth of review material already available doesn’t augur well.

      Cheika came out against nationalisation several years ago. It appears the Shuteouts have got to Johnson as well!

      • Brisneyland Local

        I think when Cheika goes the Pirate and De-Clyne need to go with them! This place needs an enema!

  • IIPA

    In your rant about poor spelling you managed to mis-spell Barrett and littered.

    • GO THE Q REDS

      Exactly….. But I’m not a Journalist to the masses…..if it wasn’t so noticeable I wouldn’t mention it!
      If someone can’t take a little constructive criticism then go crawl back into your flower patch

      • RedAnt

        Look, I’m a bit of a grammar/spelling pedant and mistakes do annoy me, but as I understand it all the work here is pretty much voluntary. You can’t compare it to a professional news organisation. Cut ‘em some slack!

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Bro I literally just bought it up in a short article with at least 9 basic mistakes. Cutting some slack surely falls below those heady numbers! Not to mention the mistake allready pointed out and repaired by the Author! Constructive criticism is what it is…..

    • GO THE Q REDS

      You appear to have managed to misspell “mis-spell” while correcting a fellow novice poster….

  • Nutta

    Regarding centralisation, I think it is necessary to articulate what is meant by centralisation.

    To my mind it is not that the Pinks play the same as the Tarts as the Scum as the Donkeys – I agree that would be pointless and impractical and to imply that is what it means is facile and shallow – but rather from more an administrative, stewardship and resource-allocation perspective I think there are bloody good reasons why we should centralise and do away with the 62 dozen fief-doms that ham-string our game now.

    Centralisation means things like:
    > No repeat of the QC fiasco of last year – if it really comes down to it, a player is sent where a player is needed/useful because the RU holds the headline contract
    > Marketing and other indirect cost lines are shared resources
    > Core procurement activities get some economy of scale
    > Sponsorship activities become far more attractive sells as the reach is both broader across Brands, but also vertically from kids up and through levels and areas of game
    > Pathway rationalisation for all manner of issues: not just player development but also coaching/administrator/referee developments and managing the whole 7/15 emerging mess
    > Game stewardship issues – such as the Twiggy Ball, the starving-out of the NRC or the choking of the Sydney Club competition by eastern clubs – can be decided from a utilitarian ‘betterment of the game’ perspective

    etc etc etc

    I think there is a world of good to be had particularly in-terms of efficiency around shared resources and clarity of objectives based on utilitarian value to the GAME itself. But I guess that probably flies in the face of the NSWRU Old-Guard at the very least so no matter what it is a pipe-dream.

    • Brisneyland Local

      Here here!

    • Huw Tindall

      Nutta for RA CEO!

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Well said mate. Not so sure on moving players around but I do like the rest of it. I think the central pathway to greatness and a central framework for players, coaches, administrators and referees is essential.

      • Nutta

        Look don’t get me wrong in that it would only be a rarely used and velvet glove approach. There is no way RA are going to tell me to shift from (say) the Tumut Bulls to the Naromine Gorillas. But if the QC thing comes up again, or Big Willy needs to drop 25kgs and the Reds have the right nutritionist & trainer then so be it – they hold the head contract.

    • idiot savant

      Great points Nutta but the fly in this ointment is that ‘head office’ needs to know what they’re doing and be able to put the shoulder to the wheel and actually do it. Viz. Im not sure that Kafer actually delivered much in his national coaching role. Maybe time will tell. But I do know that the Reds got sick of waiting for head office to do something more than talk about it and put out their own digital coaching manuals for under age coaches across the state. There needs to be a governance and review system to ensure head office actually delivers.

      • Nutta

        Yes it does imply that HO actually be competent to do the job. That may be a fundamental shortcoming…

        • Who?

          The problem, Nutta, is that currently we have a multitude of Head Offices, and they’re all pretty well equally incompetent. I think there’s an argument to be made that having a singular incompetent Head Office would still be a step forward from having over half a dozen incompetent Head Offices. :-P

        • Nutta

          I sort of look at it like Federalisation – taking a cluster of self-serving, myopic, syncopated twats and moving towards something equally as wanky but at least capable of actually accomplishing something. Still has a lot further to go, but it’s getting there.

  • Bobas

    no offence, but I think you’re way out of line.

    • HK Red

      Personally, I think the offence should be intended

  • John Tynan

    Uncalled for, IMO.

  • John Tynan

    Uncalled for, IMO.

  • Greg

    I started to type a response…. but I had too many typos. :-(

  • juswal

    For a while (circa 2010-11, seems more recent but the years are flying by), I did the copy editor gig at GAGR. I concluded that it’s not worth the effort of fixing stuff. It’s not acceptable to delay publication pending the proof-reading; articles have to go live as soon as they’re written. So I was editing the articles after they had gone live.

    At that time, most articles were getting 80 to 90 per cent of their total views within the first hour. By the time I’d put a bit of polish on the copy (just checking players’ names, venues and scorelines, tweaking a bit of grammar and punctuation and trying to standardise some terms and usages) the article was over an hour old and was off the boil. We ended up with pristine copy for posterity, but the articles that actually got read were uncorrected. It just wasn’t worth the trouble.

    • GO THE Q REDS

      Fair enough. I suppose some may balance your time and viewership with pride in your work!
      How big is Gagr these days then….. because I read a fair few articles from a wide variety of sporting outlets and rarely ever see any basic spelling and or grammar mistakes! But u would certainly expect those basic core values of spelling as a reasonably important thing for a journalist…..

      • juswal

        There are no pro journalists here. GAGR was strictly powered by amateurs in my era. I recollect talk a while ago of a few dollars for the news writers . . . I always argued that we (writers) owed players the basic respect of spelling their names right, but not everyone agreed.

        Fact is, speed matters the most. The daily news has to be up when readers expect it. Test match reviews need to be up within minutes of the final whistle.

        • Huw Tindall

          I still struggle to spell Fainga’a so am very thankful we’ve only got one one running around in Super Rugby these days!

        • Who?

          But even better, his first name is Folau. And I can’t count how many times I’ve seen people writing about Falou…… :-P
          He’s a double bunger!

      • donktec

        After an amazingly long discussion about typos, no one has mentioned the new error in the correction!
        Note: i am a fan of correct spelling and grammar, though as an engineer, i am an amateur myself. But i can live with a few typos in player names from someone giving up their time to deliver the site fresh content.

    • Who?

      Thanks Juswal – that’s really enlightening, and I think it really helps to emphasise how thankful we all are/should be for the work done on this website.
      .
      And spelling players’ names correctly? Maybe that’s performance dependent? MOTM has to be right, someone who played a shocker and cost his team might well be unstressed if his name is messed up… Less likely to pop up on Google later on. ;-)

  • Pedro

    A simple read through each week? It’s the DAILY news.

    • GO THE Q REDS

      Not sure each journo does a daily article each tho do they mate….

      • Bobas

        Jog onto the roar, where you can have plenty more “journos”.

        • Timbo

          Journos meaning ‘people with access to a keyboard and an opinion’?

      • Pedro

        You’re not sure? Maybe a simple read through would clarify it.

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Nice to see you adding meaningful content to the discussion and not just low childish digs that show a rather low level of even grasping the topic at hand…..

        • Pedro

          This is a better example of irony.

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Probably….

  • GO THE Q REDS

    Well Mr Andrew Handyside…… Assuming your not as delicate as the comments section and appreciate a little 100% honest constructive criticism….. At a quick look I see 9 basic mistakes in this article. And I’m not talking about fact checking stats or players names either! And it’s not exactly a long read! Still an enjoyable read as all the Gagr articles are…. otherwise I certainly would not bother giving feedback!

    • Greg

      @GTQR I congratulate you on your cunning ploy to ensure we did not spend the day talking about Mr Folau. Sheer brilliance!!

    • Andrew H

      9 mistakes?

  • Huw Tindall

    GAGR is essentially a fan run labour of love. A bit of ad revenue and donations keep it going too. It’s hands down the best Aussie rugby site/forum going around so as long as I can get the gist of what the posts are about I wouldn’t hold the authors and publisher to an unnecessarily high standard.

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Thanks Andrew, some great close games this weekend and a lot of close calls. I thought the Blues vs Canes was a great game with some really intense defence (biased because my Canes won) The Reds vs Rebels had some great moments and as I expected Kerevi and Meakes tended to cancel each other out a bit which to me shows they are very similar. Kerevi wins by a hair even in a losing team.
    I thought the Tahs played well at times but I still see dumb decisions at crucial times. I really think they’d benefit from some training of the head space as this would help. Penalty count was rubbish and I think there’s a place for a formal complaint now as some of the rulings were very weird. Brumbies were good BUT against a Sunwolves team that has lost their anger at the decision to cut them and is now just filling in time it’s to be expected. If other teams don’t do as well then more cudos to them.

    Not sure on what people here see about the central control of rugby in NZ. It’s certainly not to the extent that the AB coaches or NZRFU can tell coaches where to play people or how to play. The mate thing is that top players are contracted to the NZRFU and that allows the clubs to have more freedom in other recruitment. There is no telling people to play for another province or anything otherwise the Blues wouldn’t have been so poor for so long. The real difference in NZ is the level of skills coaching the players get so much earlier. There is also a very strong development process and good players do get more help earlier.

    • From NooZealand

      Hi KRL, on one hand we can rest easy on the other feel for the Wallabies. Scott Johnson has shown his hand:1) the four stick bullshit is like divide and conquer and 2) Johnson said the national selectors will look to pick teams to accord with Cheika’s plans and philosophies, and will spend time in the camp next week to get a better feel. And totally agree with your The real difference in NZ is the level of skills coaching the players get so much earlier. There is also a very strong development process and good players do get more help earlier. Cheers.

      • Who?

        So, the real question is, will Cheika be able to convince Johnson (and, to a lesser extent, O’Connor) that he (Cheika) does actually know what he wants to do with the team, and that he understands what he needs to do to get him there.
        .
        I’m not convinced he knows what he wants, I’m even less convinced he knows how to achieve that outcome, and absolutely certain he struggles to explain any of it cohesively!
        “You know..?” :-P

        • GO THE Q REDS

          I can see that being a very awkward conversation…… one Cheika can’t hide from!

        • From NooZealand

          But being a clown he might make them laugh ...sad ((;))

        • From NooZealand

          Unfortunately, I agree with yours and GTQRS’ assessment.

  • GeorgiaSatellite

    Thanks Andrew. @Hoss – can I put in a bid to rename Phipps as “Talkback”? He appears to have a 7-second delay before passing (which is odd, because they’re still off target).

  • Patrick

    I’m all for quality English. But given the choice between crap content and better presentation, I’ll take the content every day of the week and twice on Sunday, thanks!

    Not to mention that it is quite a lot of work just producing the content as it is. I would fry one of my team for these errors but I’m not going to begrudge the extra time to someone who is already giving so much of theirs!!

    • GO THE Q REDS

      Agreed…. but what’s 5-10mins extra too quickly read over your article before you hit send? It’s having pride in your work is what it is. I’m actually scared to ask what some of you guys who think my constructive criticisms deserves beratment, do for work and if there is any quality control at all. Or have you all strung them up in the smoke room with the boys……

      • Patrick

        Lol I’ve sometimes re read dozens of pages twice, and i almost always check the actual sources myself, just to be sure.

        But again, I’m paid not to make mistakes.

        The contributors here aren’t, and I personally don’t mind them saving a few minutes especially for the daily news.

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Well I suppose I’ll just have to come to terms with the seemingly overwhelming popular opinion that the norm for unpaid work is sub par effort and outcome! Not surprising seeing as Ironically there’s a spelling mistake on the new Aussie $50 note…..

        • Pedro

          Ironically?

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Most here don’t think spelling and grammar is important, especially if your not being paid to write……. So I find it Ironic someone felt the same about our Australian $50 note..

        • Pedro

          I guess we have a different understanding of what irony is. For me irony would be something that happens contrary to what might be expected. What you describe seems to be the opposite. Perhaps you were using the term ironically.

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Then you would be misplaced in your narrow assumption of what Irony means! Irony can be in a situation or an event that seems contrary to what people expect and can be seen as slightly amusing because of it!

        • Pedro

          I agree with this definition, it’s just incongruent with your earlier use.

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Explain……
          I would “expect” that something very important like the national $50 note would not have spelling errors. Conversely I would also assume (not the popular opinion) that the novice Journalism in a popular rugby site would have a certain standard!
          Pretty clear….

        • Pedro

          I accept that we share a different understanding about the correct use of “ironically”. This is how I would’ve edited your statement:

          “Well I suppose I’ll just have to come to terms with the seemingly overwhelming popular opinion that the norm for unpaid work is sub par effort and outcome! Not surprising seeing as *fittingly* there’s a spelling mistake on the new Aussie $50 note…..”

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Accept you have a difference to me all you like bud. Maybe look up the definition of Irony if that helps you! It is not what you think it is……How you described it is how the word is often used but 100% that is not the whole scope of the definition of the word Ironically!

        • GO THE Q REDS

          No it is not….. Irony has a wide description, but despite my being well within its descriptive boundries….stating “I” felt it was Ironic…. I think you should drop your little Crusade your on this morning……

  • Andrew H

    The error was fixed for the sake of transparency. I try to be factually accurate especially listing scores, records, players’ names and the like. Syntax errors and the odd repeated word I can live with but saying George scored a try instead of Mark ought to be remedied.

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Turned to writing for GAGR before my over the top rants about rugby landed me in hot water. Hoping this will keep me a little more measured.

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