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Monday’s Rugby News

Monday’s Rugby News looks at the Wallabies squad for the Bledisloe, The Wallaroos confidence heading into their clash with the Black Ferns, a recap of the Rugby around the country/pacific and shedding light on a new rugby/business-focused event


Triple P’s return

Jordan Petaia

Jordan Petaia

The Wallabies have announced a 36-man squad for the opening Bledisloe clash with New Zealand, highlighted by the returns of Jordan Petaia, David Pocock and Tatafu Polota-Nau.

Petaia has worked his way back to full fitness via club sides Wests and Sunnybank after suffering a lisfranc injury in round three of the Super Rugby season.

“It’s great to see Jordan (Petaia) back. He’s had a few games of club rugby under his belt now so we’ll look to integrate him this week in Perth and give him time to settle in,” coach Michael Cheika said.

He is joined in the side by David Pocock (calf) and Tatafu Polota-Nau (knee) who continue their rehab from injury.

Notable exclusions from the squad are back-rowers Jack Dempsey and Pete Samu, along with Rebels flyer Jack Maddocks.

Dempsey was ruled out after suffering a shoulder injury for Gordon whilst Samu and Maddocks seem to have fallen out of favour with the selection panel despite impressive Super Rugby seasons.

Cheika believes that confidence is at an all-time high in the squad, with the Wallabies looking to build off their win over Argentina.

“Squad decisions are getting harder and harder to make. So many lads are putting their hands up at training and at club rugby around the country, and each one of them is pushing the other to get better each day,” he said.

“We were pleased to get the win against Argentina and we felt we built on some things from the previous game against South Africa and now we’ll be looking to build on that.

“There’s strong belief in the group and it’s showing itself in how hard they’re training and how committed they are to doing whatever they need to do to achieve our goals.”

The squad is as followed:
Forwards: Michael Hooper (captain, Waratahs), Allan Alaalatoa (Brumbies), Rory Arnold (Brumbies), Adam Coleman (Rebels), Folau Fainga’a (Brumbies), Luke Jones (Rebels), Sekope Kepu (Waratahs), Tolu Latu (Waratahs), Isi Naisarani (Rebels), David Pocock (Brumbies), Tatafu Polota-Nau (Leicester), Izack Rodda (Reds), Rob Simmons (Waratahs), Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (Reds), Scott Sio (Brumbies), James Slipper (Brumbies), Taniela Tupou (Reds), Jordan Uelese (Rebels), Rob Valetini (Brumbies), Liam Wright (Reds)

Backs: Adam Ashley-Cooper (Waratahs), Tom Banks (Brumbies), Kurtley Beale (Waratahs), Bernard Foley (Waratahs), Will Genia (Rebels), Dane Haylett-Petty (Rebels), Reece Hodge (Rebels), Samu Kerevi (Reds), Marika Koroibete (Rebels), Tevita Kuridrani (Brumbies), Christian Leali’ifano (Brumbies), James O’Connor (Reds), Jordan Petaia (Reds), Joe Powell (Brumbies), Matt Toomua (Rebels), Nic White (Exeter Chiefs)

Got to have faith, faith, faith

Wallaroos pre-game (Credit Keith McInnes)

The Wallaroos will head into their two-test series against New Zealand with renewed faith despite having never beaten the Black Ferns

The most recent clashes between the two in 2018 ended in 31-11 and 45-17 losses in Sydney and Auckland respectively.

However, second-rower Shellie Milward has revealed that the squad have learnt plenty from their two clashes and is hopeful that they can snatch victory when they face off in Perth on Saturday.

“I don’t go out there, and I don’t think anyone in our team goes out there, to reduce the scoreline or just to make it a close game, we go out there with the intention of winning,” she believes.

“Especially after the last two Tests last year, I fully believe that we can. The first Test against them last year, they really brought it to us forwards, they were quite dominant.

“They stamped their authority in their lineouts and their rolling mauls and things like that but we were, in the second Test, able to adapt and give it back to them then.

“I came away learning from that – we didn’t have the win but we believe we definitely can beat them.”

Milward missed the Wallaroos historic two-test series with Japan where they recorded their first win on home soil, revealing that the squad has tempered confidence heading into the much more physical contest with the Black Ferns.

“They’re renowned for their physicality so I have no doubt that they’ll bring it to us in these next two Tests,” she said.

“We’re going to have to step it up another notch for the forwards there.

“I think the Japan series we were quite dominant in the forwards and that gave us good go forward or the backs and converted on the scoreboard.”

Despite having two warm-up tests before this clash, Milward believes that the consistency maintained by coach Jason Gilmore from last year in terms of selection has allowed for greater confidence and familiarity to build in the side.

“I think one thing I hope from last year was to keep a core group of girls together leading into this year and the coaches have done well doing that,” she said.

“We’ve brought in some new faces that are extremely talented as well but I think we kept a lot of the group from last year which was a great feel, great atmosphere within the team and extremely talented players.”

Rugby Recap

Japan v Samoa IRB Pacific Nations Cup 0tNKofIVNHrl

We start in the Pacific Nations Cup where Japan has continued their dominant start, crushing Tonga 41-7, scoring five tries to one to cruise into first place on the table.

Fellow Pool D neigbours Fiji bounced back from last week’s loss to Japan, defeating Canada 38-13 despite the Canadians dominating the best part of possession and territory.

Finally, in the biggest result of the Cup, USA has pulled off an incredible upset over Samoa, with AJ MacGinty nailing a last-minute penalty to give them a 13-10 victory.

Heading back to Australia and start in Perth where the final regular-season round of the Fortescue Premier saw UWA upset Cottesloe 37-27, Wests hold off Associates 14-7 and Nedlands outclass Wanneroo 21-8 to steal top spot from Cottesloe at the last moment.

In the Championship division, Palmyra shutout ARKS 46-0, Coastal held off Southern Lions 23-17, Kalamunda outclass Joondalup 38-15 and Bayswater pumped Curtin Uni 93-7

In round 13 of the Coopers Premier, Burnside crushed Adelaide Uni 96-3, Souths Shreked Barossa 84-19, Old Collegians dominated Port Adelaide 76-15, Brighton outclassed Onkaparinga 30-7 and Elizabeth snapped their losing streak, drawing 12-12 with Woodville.

Also in its final round, Harlequins out-grinded Box Hill 14-12, Footscray scaped home 24-23 over Endeavour Hills, Melbourne pumped Power House 62-5 and Moorabbin dented Melbourne Uni’s confidence with a 27-12 win.

The final round of the Shute Shield saw Gordon hold off Western Sydney 43-22, Randwick upset Norths 32-30, Warringah bottle 1st place with a 36-21 loss to Southern Districts, Eastwood also fail to get 1st place, knocked off by a desperate Easts team 48-26 needing to win to make finals whilst Sydney Uni pull a Bradbury, crushing West Harbour 53-6 in the final match at Concord Oval to claim the minor premiership.

In the elimination final in the John I Dent Cup, Uni Norths upset Gungahlin 25-19 despite being 22 points behind them on the regular season ladder whilst Royals overcame 1st placed Vikings 21-13 to advance to the Grand Final.

The major semi-final of the Hospital Challenge Cup saw Brothers outgun GPS 48-40 whilst Bond Uni turned Easts dream run into a nightmare with a dominant 51-12 win, with both played at Ballymore Stadium.

Rugby 1st

Scott Johnson

Scott Johnson

To finish off the news, I thought I’d take the chance to raise awareness about a brilliant company doing great things in the rugby community.

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In doing so, they attempt to deliver opportunities for their members to achieve better results for their brands and businesses via new and targeted relationships whilst giving back to rugby.

They do some excellent work within the rugby community creating opportunities for their partner NFP’s to support rugby and help raise funds for those who desperately needed it.

Some of their great work includes raising awareness and money for former Wallaby Richard Tombs & Guns Out Spinal Foundation, to help his recovery from a devastating spinal injury, along with working with Veteran Sport Australia to help veterans take part in all aspects of rugby, including playing, coaching administration and support.

They also help foster junior participation as the naming sponsor of the NSWJRU Girls State Championships, along with sponsoring the NSW Junior Rep teams as they head to National Championships.

The reason I’m telling you all this is that they are hosting their first event ‘Currency of World Rugby – View to the 2019 RWC and Beyond’, on Monday 19th August in Sydney.

The event allows for fellow business and rugby-minded members to interact and network, along with hearing from some of the best minds in both rugby and business.

The main speaker of note is the recently appointed Director of Rugby Scott Johnson, with this event a prime opportunity for attendees to listen and pick the brains of one of the most powerful men in Australian rugby just weeks out from the World Cup.

Other speakers include Greg Thomas, who is the head of Media & Communications for SANZAAR & at the last three World Cups (including the 2019 version) and Toby Lawson, the CEO of Société Générale Securities Australia and Head of Global Markets when he wasn’t covering the Shute Shield for ABC.

For those interested in attending further details can be found below:
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  • Steve

    No Dempsey or Samu, and Pocock is back!

    Anyone else getting a whiff of the Pooper?

    • Max Graham

      I like the Pooper. NZ is going to the Pooper. With Naisirani at 8 it might work better than having a third lock at 6. Like to see Valetini get a shot though.

      • Steve

        I’d like to see Valetini get a run as well, with Pocock coming back at the expense of Hooper
        You’d rather
        6. Pocock
        7. Hooper
        8. Naisarani
        vs.
        6. Valetini/Samu
        7. Pocock
        8. Naisarani?

        • Max Graham

          Valetini and Option B is my wet dream.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I’d love to be convinced, but I watched every Brumbies game this season and cannot really see the argument for Valetini at this stage.

          He doesn’t yet jump well at the line out, and doesn’t contribute a second much at the breakdown as some competitors, and is still very raw. Heaps of potential, but he hasn’t been able to channel it effectively and consistently enough yet tod demand selection.

          If we are playing Naisarani, we need our 6 to be good at the breakdown and ideally a good jumper also.

        • Steve

          McCaffrey fills both those roles, but was passed over. Samu great at the breakdown and around the park and can jump at a pinch,but he too out of favour.

          Jones? Good jumper but struggled for impact in other areas since early in the Super season.

          I see no other indication but that the Pooper will be picked.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I suspect you’re probably right.

          And, honesty, with Naisarani and Arnold, it is probably the right call since we don’t have any excellent 6 options available.

          Wright is the other option I can see.

        • Max Graham

          McCaffery is not brutal at the tackle or ruck. The Wallabies need players to do this. Hence the love for Valetini. He is a beast.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Certainly not a brutal tackler. However, unlike Valetini he is an excellent exponent at the breakdown. There’s a reason he can play 6, 7 and 8. Wallabies need a 6 that is good there, given it isn’t a particular strength of either Hooper or Naisarani.

        • Mica

          He’s also a clever player and knows how to make the most of what he’s got and play to his strengths. Consistently made meters with the ball in hand despite not being a “beast”. Many ways to skin a cat.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Indeed. Lachy gave an interview a few months back where he spoke about fact that coaches and selectors in Australia still tend to select based on size rather than on skill.

        • Max Graham

          He’s not at all actually. He is smart and can snag the odd turnover, but he doesn’t shift bodies like Cliffs Palu or Valetini. It’s dishonest to suggest he does.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          No, actually. He does shift bodies well at the breakdown, often slows down opposition ball (unlike Valetini) and wins considerably more turnovers than Valetini.

          You’re just relishing in being obnoxious now. Unfortunately, you’re also wrong.

        • Max Graham

          Okay mate. If you say he’s more physical than Valetini, we aren’t going to find much common ground in rugby.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I never said that… weren’t you the one accusing me of straw men earlier?

          Glass… cough… houses…

        • Uncle Tony

          I’d like to see Samu at least given a run in the green and gold, rather than just being left right out. He had a serviceable super season and would be my pick for 6. Surely Pocock’s match fitness is a concern at this point.

        • Huw Tindall

          Would rather they stick with LSL at 6 than Pooper it to be honest. Samu is the biggest head scratcher for me. Would have been a great option in the back row and was in red hot form by the end of the season.

      • Damo

        Not many may agree with me on this idea- I’m not sure I agree with me. We don’t seem to have many choices of big, fast, hard running 6’s who are demanding to be chosen. Maybe put Hooper there. He can not play as a typical 6 just as well as he doesn’t play as a typical 7. He does make metres with ball in hand. He is quick and harasses opposition inside backs off set pieces. We know all the stuff he does and doesn’t do, but the key thing in the end is that Cheika is going to pick him- every time. This way we can pick 7’s and 8’s who are playing in their correct positions. This includes Pocock and, if he gets injured, another 7 such as Wright. Maybe.

        • onlinesideline

          Im in.

        • joy

          IS that the Cockhoop?

    • onlinesideline

      Dempsey injured, Samu I think is still injured

  • Who?

    It’s ok, we’ll win the Bledisloe because Petaia’s going to make his debut and fix all that ails us…
    .
    :-P
    .
    Let me clarify – I’m a fan of the kid. But he’s a kid. We’ve got to be realistic and not do our usual thing of overhyping the young phenom. There’s still opportunities to play a RWC at 23, 27, 31…..
    Let’s temper our expectations for him a little, so he’s half a chance of not bitterly disappointing everyone at the age of 19.

    • Max Graham

      Nah. He’s the best option we have at 14. By miles. In 99 we had Tune. In 91 we had Campo. Can you see Hodge or DHP holding up the World Cup after winning the final? Horan played for the Wallabies when he was younger and less experienced than Petaia. He’s 19. Old enough to go to war. He’s big. He’s confident. Don’t be such a Nancy.

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        It was of course different in the amateur era, or even 10 years ago. Players are bigger, heavier and more powerful now than they every were in the past, especially the amateur era. Petaia couldn’t even last 3 matches at centre in super rugby.

        Notice something about our three next gen young guns – Petaia, Valetini and Uelese? They’ve both been constantly injured since playing super rugby.

        Speight is the logical choice. Cheika is being a fool by not picking Australia’s best wing in super rugby.

        • Max Graham

          I would have had Speight in the first test. But he’s not in the squad. Why are we talking about him, when they actual choice is Petaia, Hodge and DHP. Also….. players aren’t bigger now than when JOC played his first test at 18. Check the stats if you don’t believe me. But then again, you seem willing to throw multiple straw men into a single paragraph so don’t imagine you’ll stop now. Also, Petaia hurt his hamstring and his foot in the last couple of years – don’t make it sound like a little kid gets hurt playing against the big boys.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          They are, actually, something like 7-10kg heavier on average since 2007.

        • Max Graham

          10kg heavier sounds a lot. Seems like English players are getting smaller. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34290980

          But regardless of any evidence, I actually agree with you. Players are bigger now. As Petaia is likely 20kg heavier than JOC was on debut, we can perhaps put aside the hankies and agree he’s big enough and strong enough to play against the same blokes he’s been making look like fools at super level.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Did I miss something? It did say players were getting bigger. The one exception was a single England team, perhaps the best English team ever.

          Just because Petaia is bigger doesn’t mean he has grown into his body yet. He’s a guy still growing playing against huge men.

          JOC was the exception not the rule, and don’t forget he has multiple seasons at super rugby injury free unlike Petaia. JOC has also struggled hugely with injuries since.

        • joy

          Petaia is 98kg and growing.

      • onlinesideline

        I agree mate. If I had my way, I would be starting Uelesse, Pateia, Thor – all the youngins. They are all beasts. Cheika needs to start them regularly and show huge confidence in them and they will peak in a semi or final and blow teams off the park. He is just too scared.

        Thats how you pull off a World Cup. Turn them in legends by picking them in the first place and then throwing them in the fire. Cheika kills all that with the way he debuts blokes and then kills the fire in them. Just gets it wrong wrong wromg.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Ala’alatoa was probably the best tighthead prop in all of super rugby, and Uelese has managed about 80 mins of rugby in two years, including only about 5mins against South Africa. How can we start him? Do we even know if he is any good at the moment? I haven’t seen him play in years, and Faingaa and Latu have played well.

        • onlinesideline

          well put him the squad and get him into it and let him smell the starting position. I dont give a poop about form and experience – where has it got us ? – its all bollocks IMO. We need to takes some serious risks. Just pick the guys with most potential and thow em’ in.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          We haven’t picked on form for years under Cheika, that’s the problem.

          If you don’t select on form or experience, what do you select on?

        • onlinesideline

          well who do you think should be in the starting line up in the next bled based on form that wasnt in the side against Pumas, besides injured coming back ?

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Honestly, I would start:

          – Ala’alatoa at 3 with Thor on the bench and Kepu dropping out of the 23;

          – assuming Poey is injured start McCaffrey or Wright at 6;

          – stick Speight on the wing, or Petaia since Speight isn’t in the squad;

          – put Banks back into fullback.

          I also think we need at least one half with JOC in the centres. He has said he is most comfortable at 12, so probably there. I don’t think Kerevi/TK is clicking yet. Not saying they shouldn’t be our centres in the World Cup, but I think we need to at least see what JOC brings.

          Otherwise, I think it’s good.

        • onlinesideline

          Well they are not major changes you are recommending. You said Cheika hasnt picked on form for years and yet you are basically happy with the team. This is where you lose me at times. Do you think Cheika has picked on form or not ?

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I don’t think he has for years, but now with the selection panel, we seem to be picking on form. Long may it continue.

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Kerevi at 12 is surely the only spot not to be changed. Best in the world atm! Play JOC elsewhere for sure tho….

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I don’t think he’s quite the best in the world, although super talented and was one of the best in super rugby. I love him but don’t think he is drawing and passing enough. He isn’t getting the ball out to TK or the outside backs.

          He’s probably going to be our 12, but I don’t think he combines great with TK. JOC would combine better with TK, so I’d like to see if 12. JOC, 13. TK works better for the team.

        • Max Graham

          That is batshit crazy

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Which part?

        • Keith Butler

          Totally agree about Thor. Put him up against Joe Moody, who’s a bit of a cheating bastard, to see what he’s made of and then 7As for the last 25 mins. Not so sure about Pateia and Uelesse though. If they had more game time at a higher level than club rugby under their belts then by all means bring them in. A couple of games in the NRC, 20 mins against the Samoans and then off to the RWC to give them another taste.

        • onlinesideline

          the reason I include the other 2 is that with the 2 Bleds, Samoa and then the pre RWC training camps plus the actual 4-6 week RWC training camp itself (assuming we make it out of the pool) is essentially 3 months in camp. They will be busting for a run and in full fitness. If this wasnt a RWC extened in camp situation then I would agree.

        • Jason

          I agree, but I also disagree, I think Tupou is one of a few players who I’d say ‘down throw him in’ about but I do think if he was forced into starting in a World Cup Final *could* swim.

        • joy

          Put Useless with Thor on Moody. They have a bloke to match Thor.

        • Jason

          One of the things that ruffles my feathers is Tupou and Pataia is you can at least argue they have earned their spots, in the squad. Uelelse has played almost no professional rugby like EVER. How can you be selecting a guy in your RWC squad with such little rugby under his belt. I understand if it’s David Pococok — it’s Pocock. But Uelesle has shown nothing, perhaps because he hasn’t had the opportunity but you can’t pick on suspicion for a World Cup, and it’s not like we don’t have other Hookers we could pick with BPA proving he’s capable of playing test rugby and Mafi this season stepping up beyond BPA.

        • onlinesideline

          and Rangi for that matter, who I thought was great. Yeah you ahve a point.

        • Jason

          Yeah, Rangi is on the wrong side of 30, but still a good option.

      • Who?

        I can’t see any current Wallaby going anywhere near the trophy.
        JOC was MUCH younger than Petaia. The issue isn’t age, the issue is fitness (do we want to break him – and Valentini – so young?), form (what’s he shown that sees him selected ahead of other genuine options – TK at 13, Banks/Maddocks/Naivalu/JOC at 14? He’s barely played this year, only has one year before that, and whilst he did well, he can’t be described as a form selection – it’s potential, not performance), and expectations. Primarily expectations.
        .
        We have a major issue with expectations here. We’re acting as if an extremely inexperienced outside back is going to come in and fix all our problems. To me, that’s setting the bloke up for failure, and setting ourselves up to be bitter towards him when his Test career hasn’t even started. I don’t think that’s fair to him.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I think JOC was 19 when he made his Wallabies debut. Isn’t Petaia about the same age??

        • Who?

          JOC was 18 – second youngest Wallaby ever? Petaia’s 19. He would’ve debuted last year, but he broke down at Wallabies training (which is pretty unusual, isn’t it..?).
          I completely agree with your comments about Petaia, Valentini and Uelese needing time to harden their bodies to the constant barrage and grind of week in, week out top level professional Rugby. They might be able to do it once, twice, but the body needs to harden up to the ravages of doing it each week. I think it’s something the Rebels may actually be doing rather well with Leota, letting him grow into his game minutes.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Jeez I knew he was young when he made his debut, but didn’t realise he was that young! What an incredible talent JOC was / hopefully still is.

          It isn’t worth risking their longterm ability in my opinion. Wouldn’t rush any into international footy. Petaia I would perhaps play if fit, but certainly not in the centres for the Wallabies yet.

      • Problem is that he has had no game time and where’s the proof that his injury is fully healed and that he has the same speed and agility as he had before the injury. Likewise Pocock. Fantastic player but no good to us if he break’s down again.

        • Max Graham

          Who are you again? You want evidence more than his doctors’ and trainers’ say so? Maybe his xrays? What would satisfy some dude from the internet?

    • AllyOz

      I agree Who? Unfortunately he’s has 1 and a bit Super games and a couple of club games. Put him on a shadows list by all means and let him play NRC. His time will come.

    • Jason

      To be fair, if it’s a choice between AAC and Peteia, I’d take Peteia every day of the week, twice in World Cup years. Particularly this squad has plenty of ‘seasoned campaigners’, Foley, Beale, Toomua, Genia, O’Connor, White — then in the forwards you have Hooper, Kepu, Simmons, Slipper, We have plenty of experience. Peteia even if he’s not up to test rugby (he may or may not be we don’t know yet) will benefit from the experience going forwards and be able to provide that leadership to the future generation.

      • Who?

        I’m with you on that. I just get really, really sick of the messiah complex we have, especially for guys who’ve not actually achieved anything yet.
        .
        I don’t see that he’s done anything worthy of seeing him selected over TK. But he did more in that 1.25 games than AAC did this year. And playing with Kerevi, there’s combination there.

        • Jason

          Yeah, I’d really like to see Petai given a crack maybe starting against Fiji. I think he’s got a chance of playing in a RWC final series, he could be a real chance of starting with Kerevi but I agree we need to make sure we don’t get ahead of ourselves.

    • GO THE Q REDS

      Problem is….. with Foley in the team…… we need as many individual brilliant players we can get! So sad but so true….

      • Who?

        With Foley in the team, he won’t see the ball…….

    • I think you are spot on. Possibly the selectors are taking him to get experience in the environment just like they are taking old heads like TPN and AAC as counsellors. I am trusting neither TPN or AAC are going as players. Overall this means the ARU have a lot more money than they admit.

      • Max Graham

        Only 31 players can go. No room for non-players.

      • Huw Tindall

        TPN may shade it as a hooker who can play prop as well. Need to give the main guys a rest against Georgia for instance so need that front row depth. Also a great ‘tourist’ by all accounts. Also, if we don’t want to play guys out of position AAC is unfortunately the next best 13 after TK. It’s a lot to ask Petaia to come back from injury straight to 13 in a World Cup! Other characters like CFS and English are not in the frame. I agree that both AAC and TPN are past their prime but that’s what we’ve got to work with.

  • sambo6

    Great to hear..once again…how well they’re going in training….

  • John Tynan

    Thanks for the earworm, Nath. Going to be singing George Michaels all day….

    • Brisneyland Local

      You struck me as a GM fan JT! ;-)

      • John Tynan

        We all had a fluoro shirt with oversize font. Didn’t we?

        • AllyOz

          I have oversize t-shirts that are now a tight fit…is that the same?

        • Brisneyland Local

          Is that like I had tight tshirts back then, that my wife uses as a full length nightie?

        • AllyOz

          These would look more like a Moomoo I think Bris but yes a similar concept I guess

        • Brisneyland Local

          In fact my 12 year old uses them as ghost costumes.

        • Yowie

          Better than having one’s kids get around as ghosts in a white bedsheet with eye-holes cut and a pointy top I suppose.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Really? that is normal up here in Qld! ;-)

        • Yowie

          Depends which electorate I suppose.

        • Brisneyland Local

          More prevalent the further north you go!

        • Brisneyland Local

          Nope! They were never made in my size!

  • AllyOz

    https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2019/08/04/one-percenters-august-4

    I missed this story last week. It mentions that the Wallabies will be training in Noumea and says that they were looking at a tropical training camp but Darwin etc was too expensive. I would have thought army facilities in either Darwin or Townsville or the training facilities of the Cowboys would have been more than adequate and cheaper. Using Army accommodation and training facilities might have other advantages too.

    • idiot savant

      Yes but Noumea will keep the media away. And probably minimise the attendance of the other two selectors…

      • AllyOz

        I think that is more about what is about IS

    • Damo

      All that may well be true but, most importantly, there are some excellent steep hills in Noumea!

    • GO THE Q REDS

      I certainly wouldn’t be roughing it in SA. It’s the closest thing to becoming a white genocide over there atm.
      In Aus…..im all for the team roughing it!

    • Max Graham

      The problem with army accommodation is that it’s generally filled with soldiers. There are many other reasons why it’s an awful, awful idea. Whose swags would they sleep in? Who would set up the tents? Who would feed them meals? Who would transport them to and from the barracks to the shoddy training facilities? Who would carry out the security vetting on the players and who would provide escorts to this large group of civilians that are on base? I bet the cost would be 2 to 3 times what a luxury resort would be. Plus, the Oz military are there for a reason and this keeps them from doing their job. I think you’d be wise to ignore she shite that comes out of the mouth of Alan Jones.

      • AllyOz

        Are you Richard Graham’s brother Max?

        • Max Graham

          That’s a low blow. No need to get personal!!!

        • AllyOz

          I am good mates with school mates of his and he is apparently a really nice bloke. I played at a similar time in club rugby in Brisbane (though not at the same level) and he was well respected. He was not, however, a very successful coach at Super level – at least as a head coach.

        • Max Graham

          I’ve heard he’s a really good bloke. He’s still young enough to use what he’s learned and have another crack.

      • AllyOz

        Thanks for the considered opinion Max.

  • Hoss

    Morning connoisseurs,

    It’s test week and the gloves are off.

    Let’s face it. The Nearlies aren’t anywhere near the begrudgingly likeable mob of the past Tourney of Champs. They lost that Ritchie guy, side note, after his retirement I found our Ritchie was Celtic for ‘always offside’ – then they lost a fair to middling 10, although he never won a RWC for his side like the Duck did, so not much of a loss really and some barrister in the backline who was on hand to sort legal issues and make the occasional tackle. All champions and also, shit me to tears, genuinely good people – there, I said it, my therapist can fuck right off now and NO I don’t feel any better – overpriced twat.

    Roll forward 4 years and you have a side that has more pricks than a second hand dartboard.
    – A.Smith – We all know of his preference to hang around special bathrooms, can you imagine him at the Para Olympics – fuck me.
    – the power tool guy Ricoh something –
    I don’t know how you spell knob in Maori but I reckon that’s close
    – ‘Elbows’ Moody – over rated thug
    – Dan Coles – again checked NZ ‘origin of names’ book, turns out to be Celtic for ‘Ricoh’
    – Kieran Read, far as I can tell he is held together by gaffer tape and deep heat.

    Nope – the shine has gone and the veneer is fading from the nearly all black jumper. ‘Better people make better all blacks’ pfffft! Once maybe, but that has gone. Now you’ve got convicted domestic violence felons, public fornication experts, assault merchants and a petulant gen – well whatever gen we are up to – nope, fuck em, it’s time they got taken down a peg or two and it starts now.

    Come on you lot say it out loud ‘I am a Wallaby supporter and I ain’t gonna take it any more’

    It’s time for a changing of the guard, the Kings are dead, long live the new Kings.

    Wallabies by 9.

    • idiot savant

      When you come to, you’ll find the world hasn’t changed and we’re gonna take it again. Up the same place we always take it.

      I watched the Boks vs Blacks on the weekend and the new Kings might just be the rainbow nation. The way their A team drove the Darkness backwards In the first 15 minutes made me pray we dont cross their path in the RWC.

      • Hoss

        Mr Savant. Now is not the time for forlorn despair and to live in the rancid memories of yesteryear. Now is the time, Perth is the place and in this 50th year anniversary I say to you ‘one small step…..’

        • idiot savant

          Spanners has a small step. Perhaps he will lead us to the promised land.

        • Hoss

          Amen

        • Brisneyland Local

          As long as he is starting at the half way line. If from inside our 22 we are screwed!

        • adastra32

          That being Alaska? With your nuts so tightened that they have retreated into your body.

        • Will

          ….for mankind, one giant tea bagging from the Darkness?

          I hope you’re right Hoss, I want….no…… need to believe again!

        • Hoss

          Yep Will – i gotta believe the last 4 years has been for something. We have 2 new selectors, there’s some super youngsters at the start of their journeys, so experienced older players who know its their last hoorah. I cant put my finger on it exactly, but there’s something special in the works. No proof as to where it came from or why its here, just feels like something is right.

      • Patrick

        That was my feeling too!

    • onlinesideline

      Im gonna wait to see who he picks before I make that call. But even knwowing that doesnt really inform. As giving JOC 10 seconds is tantamount to not being in the side.
      When he makes the call to bring on the finishers could decide the test.
      If he picks Beale as a starter over Banks, I really think your 9 points is looking very ambitious. We need all the speed we’ve got.

    • GO THE Q REDS

      Latu would fit right in I reckon….

      • Hoss

        Come on GTQR. To err is human. To forgive, divine

        • GO THE Q REDS

          Yeah and forgive and forget right……. Would have to be very forgetful for that bloke! In fact I’ve allready forgotten his jail cell number…..

    • Max Graham

      I don’t think the Wallabies have won a test by 9 since Latho. Reckon we’re certainties to win; however it will be my less than a kick and the last 10 minutes will involve courageous, last-gasp defence, inexplicable AB bombed tries and 16 charge downs.

      • Hoss

        Max my boy, I couldnt give a flying fig if it’s by 1 with a glaring ref error to get us there after the bell – I just want a big ‘W’ next to our name when the dust settles.

        You can’t draw pictures in the scorebook and besides, history is written by the victors.

        Go gold.

        • Max Graham

          Give me the whistle and we’d win by 109.

  • disqus_NMX

    Why is USA beating Samoa an incredible upset? According to IR rankings, USA are 15th, and Samoa 16th. Maybe 10 years ago, but USA have been on the rise! The way we’re going, it won’t be long before they overtake us.

  • disqus_NMX

    Cheika – “confidence delusion is at an all-time high”

    • Yowie

      Even the original quote is a bit damning (depending on the definition of “the squad” and the time period that covers).

      i.e confidence has never been higher than after a poorly-executed win against a rising but inconsistent team at home at one of the best home-team-advantage grounds in Australia.

  • onlinesideline

    My biggest bugbear / concern is what AAAAAs and Sio and the hooker do in the loose. This is where the darkness get their edge. Smart props part of a smart pack who work in unison. First to the breakdown, the famous pods of AB counter rucking. This is what has broken our hearts so many times in the last 15 minutes. Its nice to make the occassional big hit, but Im looking for very fit, passionalte 80 minute performances in the loose by these guys. No mindless flopping on people to get a breather (otherwise known as cleanouts). I want to see clever decison making when to enter and when to hold back. Its time for Sio and Co to be leaders.

    • Keith Butler

      Agreed. Mind you if the refs penalised the mindless floppers and heaven forbid carded a few, they might suddenly find themselves more dynamic at ruck time. Chances of that happening though, Buckley’s.

    • Huw Tindall

      The ABs props are pretty average around the ground. Franks and Moody aren’t that great outside set piece. It’s the rest of the pack that make up for it though.

  • onlinesideline

    My tip – you heard it first here, is that Pocock WONT play. Something is not right. Im sorry, Ive googled calf injuries and they dont take 5 months. Contrary to what someone else on here said teh other day I dont buy it. I think he will be cotton wooled all the way up to the RWC.

    • Crescent

      Just quietly, I am worried that he is going to be cotton wooled all the way to retirement after the World Cup kicks off without taking the field. Something isn’t right and I am concerned that it is game over for Poey, and all the chatter is about trying to maintain interest. I would desperately love to be wrong, and will be delighted if I am worried over nothing.

      • Yowie

        Perhaps Poey can stalk the sidelines appearing to warm-up every game for the purposes of terrifying the opposition. Get them thinking “We’re still in the game so far, but we have yet to face Pocock”

    • Keith Butler

      Did the same. Even a full tear should not take more than 3 or 4 months. Also cannot recall what the ‘rare’ injury was, maybe tears to both muscles? Factor in the Pocock calves are probably bigger than most and you could have a problem. I fear you are right and that he will not make the RWC. But now he’ll go and prove us wrong.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Pococks calves are bigger than my whole thighs!

    • Huw Tindall

      They reported he had some rare condition where the muscle wasn’t repairing properly. Normal calf tear would have been well back by now but there were complications.

  • The Jackal

    Is Pete Samu injured and not being considered for selection or is he quietly just going to miss the World Cup without even a sniff. Thought he was the form AUS backrower before his Semi Final injury

    • Brisneyland Local

      My reports are saying he has healed. But now he seems to have fallen foul of the Cheika selection policy.

    • Huw Tindall

      This is the only baffling decision under the new selection panel. Samu was hands down one of the best back rowers across the season and was in red hot form before his injury. Would have liked to see him get a run at 6 as he is probably the best all round skill set back rower we have right now.

  • Sefa Naivalu must also be out of favour with the Wallaby Selectors. Then again he is only a specialist, big and powerful winger, who scores tries and tackles well. Supposedly Henri Speight can’t get a run because he can only do the try scoring part. Thus the selectors had to choose a “young gun” like Adam Ashley Cooper (who admittedly performed much better than expected on his return to Super Rugby).

    • Bernie Chan

      Pure wingers must be so passe…the Wobblies coach doesn’t think he needs more than 1…

      • Yowie

        When you only have one game-plan, you only need one winger who expects to be passed the ball.

    • GO THE Q REDS

      Super Sefas best career decision ever was to leave over seas after being forced to ship up to the reds where he knew he’d get no ball therefore his wallaby career was over……poor bloke as he’s one of the best wallaby wingers on performance we’ve had for a long time!

  • Yowie
    • Bernie Chan

      That’s clever..and damning…

      • Huw Tindall

        The Perth game has been sold out for the better part of a year but sadly the gist of the article is on the money -_-

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