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Monday’s Rugby News looks at the Wallabies upset victory, James Slipper’s 100th test match, the Force’s new flyhalf and the Pumas finalise their preparations against the RA XV


Comeback

Wallabies celebrate Tom Wright's early try

Wallabies celebrate Tom Wright’s early try

The Wallabies have pulled off a massive upset, overcoming the All Blacks 24-22 in the fourth and final Bledisloe Cup test match.

The first half would see both teams reduced to 14-men after All Blacks prop Ofa Tu’ungafasi and Wallabies flanker Lachie Swinton were sent off for high tackles.

With the All Blacks taking the lead at the start of the second half, flyhalf Reece Hodge would kick the Wallabies ahead before a try to Taniela Tupou sealed the result.

It caps off a remarkable comeback after suffering their worst loss in Bledisloe history just seven days earlier.

(Mid article plug, check out my immediate thoughts from the game.)

Despite the positive finish to the Bledisloe series, Wallabies coach Dave Rennie remained grounded, conceding that they shouldn’t overvalue the dead-rubber victory.

“You don’t win the Bledisloe Cup by winning one and drawing one,” he told reporters in his post-match press conference.

“What it tells us is that if we work hard enough for each other we can get results against anyone. But it doesn’t count for much tonight unless we back it up against Argentina in a couple of weeks.

“We’re trying to grow our game. There’s a lot of stuff we haven’t had time to do because of the (COVID) situation, so I’m excited about where we can take this team. But we’re not going to get carried away with tonight. It was a great result, but we’ve got to keep building on that.”

Captain Michael Hooper was hoping that performances like that could become the norm after his 50th in charge.

“It’s a good start for them and (we) expect that we want to make that the norm,” Hooper said.

“We make no bones about where we want to go as a team, and those guys are going to be a big driving factor in that so bottling that feeling and pushing each other and demanding more out of each other, which the young guys have brought and vice-versa from the top-down, is going to be important to go where want to go.”

Onto the next 100

James Slipper post-match press conference

James Slipper post-match press conference

Prop James Slipper is looking to build on his time as the leader of the Wallabies pack after bringing up his 100th cap.

Slipper become the 13th man to bring up the century for Australia, however, the unlucky number came back to haunt him as he was forced off the field with a suspected dislocated elbow.

“I had the best week in terms of messages, videos. James Horwill was obviously a big part of my career here at the Reds and Wallabies and I FaceTime’d him actually yesterday,” Slipper said.

“It was a really special week and it was led by (his teammates), here.

“I didn’t realise how liked I was. It made it special but the icing on the cake tonight was actually getting the result.”

Having brought up the milestone with a win, the 31-year-old’s new priority is to improve on his 53 per cent winning percentage in gold.

“Short story, no, when you set out – I’m sitting next to Tom Wright now who’s debuted – you never think about playing 100 Tests,” he added.

“I had some twists and turns and am very surprised that I’ve actually made it here, but at the end of the day, I really want to win.

“One hundred is good, but winning is better and we need to do more of that.”

Having rejuvenated his career in the nation’s capital, Slipper was proud to see the next generation of players come through the Australian system, having been replaced on the field by new Wallaby no. 940 Angus Bell.

“I’ve enjoyed my last two years in Canberra, seeing players like Tommy (Wright) come in, (Lachie) Swinton, (Angus Bell) Belly,” Slipper said.

“Direction wise, I’m really excited and we’ve just got to be more consistent, not leave it until the last game of a series, a dead rubber, to win.”

Coming home

Jake McIntyre kicks

Jake McIntyre kicks

The Force have continued their roster overhaul, signing former Reds flyhalf Jake McIntyre on a two-year deal.

McIntyre returns to home soil after spending over three years in Europe, including two seasons as the top scorer for French top-flight outfit Sporting Union Agenais.

Having most recently turned out for French Top 14 side ASM Clermont Auvergne, the 26-year-old called the decision to return home a ‘no-brainer’, eager to be apart of the strong and rich WA rugby community.

“For me it was a no-brainer to join the Force. I share the ambition the club has shown, and I want to grow with the club to achieve success,” McIntyre said in a statement.

“After talking with players like Brad Lacey, there’s obviously a very strong rugby community in WA, which I can’t wait to contribute to and be a part of. It’s rare you find a place where players only have positive things to say, so I think that speaks volumes for the family culture at the club.

“I’m really looking forward to playing rugby back home in Australia in front of family and friends, that’s going to be special.”

Head of rugby Matt Hodgson believes that McIntrye will be a valuable asset to the squad, adding some much-needed depth to their impressive backline.

“Jake brings exceptional positional and tactical awareness to the squad,” Hodgson added.

“His vision and rugby intelligence are strong assets, so we’re looking forward to seeing that on display on the training track and during the 2021 season.

“It’s always great to have Australian players return home and having seen him thrive in France, we’re excited to see Jake show the country what he’s capable of in a Force jersey.”

Isi Tune-up game

Isi Naisarani

Isi Naisarani

Argentina has finalised their preparations for the Tri-Nations, cruising to a 57-24 victory over a Rugby Australia XV at Leichardt Oval on Saturday.

The clash marks the final game of a two-‘test’ series against the selected team made up of Wallabies squad members and Sydney-based players.

The Pumas would take the first test 19-15 which I feel like I need to include because even the most die-hard Australian rugby fans probably didn’t know it was on last Friday thanks to a lack of support/advertisement from the marketing pigeon.

Anyway, onto game two and it was a dominant showing from the Pumas, who were able to welcome back the majority of their European-based players after they served a separate quarantine from their teammates.

Incoming Force halfback Tomas Cubelli and fullback Santiago Cordero crossed for doubles as they ran in nine tries in the dominant showing over 90 minutes (3 x 30 minute periods).

Discarded Wallabies No.8 Isi Naisarani was the standout for the RA XV, crossing over twice before appearing to hurt his knee in the 54th minute.

Flyhalf Will Harrison was another that caused significant headaches for the Pumas, picking up from his strong showing in the opening test match to press his claim for selection in the final two tests of the years.

Meanwhile, new Wallaby Fraser McReight built off his debut with some solid work around the ruck, joined by strong showings from fellow debutant Irae Simone.

The Pumas will be hoping to build off these showings when they face the All Blacks on Saturday at Bankwest Stadium.

  • Huw Tindall

    Still basking in the glow of the win but time to shift focus to the Argies. Will all be for nothing if we slip in against the Pumas who will be a bit under done. Bad news is the next game is up in Newcastle which is like the opposite of home ground advantage based on past results for both the Wallaby and Tahs!

    • Keith Butler

      Not wrong Huw. My first face to face with Hoss when the Mayoress and I travelled up to see the Tahs play the Moondogs. He was not a happy camper. Our howling could have resulted in a very short friendship but he took it on the chin like a true Novacastrian.

      • Huw Tindall

        The one where Mac Mason was thrown to the dogs? Literally and figuratively.

        • Keith Butler

          That’s the one. A great weekend and we met a legend ( in his own lunchtime!)

        • onlinesideline

          any snaps of Hossman ?
          He wont mind – its just the internet.

        • Keith Butler

          Yes but will need to obtain permission just in case I get sued!

        • Hoss

          Imagine a cross between John Candy and Elvis 68 comeback special with just a dash of John Holmes thrown in…..and your about there.

        • onlinesideline

          Coming from the Hunter I would of thought Elvis in the 1964 classic “Kissing Cousins” was more accurate but anyway ….. I get the picture. I can definitely relate to the John Candy bit especially after he polished off that 96 pounder.

        • Hoss

          Yep. Well played Mr Gibson for single handedly ruining a young mans life.

      • Hoss

        I prefer to remember it as being at the historic last every union game of one Dusty Folau.

        • Keith Butler

          Dusty who???

        • Hoss

          Israel ‘Dusty Springfield’ Folau – Son of a Preacher Man.

        • Keith Butler

          Knew exactly who you meant. Probably should have said Folau who. The Forgotten Man. Have you come up with an alternative name for Swinton. I quite like plain and simple ‘The Brick’.

        • Hoss

          ‘Mad Dog’ or ‘The Republican’ – often sees red.

        • Who?

          It’s hilarious that Republicans have Red as their colour, when half their campaigns these days seem to be Red Scares (i.e. everyone’s a commie!).

        • Keith Butler

          Flawlessly logical. I think The Republican. Don’t reckon Mad Dog as I would be confused with ‘Mad Dog’ Moody who played at 6 or 7 for England back in the early 2000s and Joe Moody of AB infamy who is probably just ‘Barking Mad’.

        • Nutta

          I’m watching you Bastards.

    • Brisneyland Local

      The Wallabies matches there were under the Ass Clown. So it isnt the ground, but the Coach!

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        Absolutely mate

      • Bobas

        2012 we lost to Scotland under Deans. A year after losing to Samoa at home and leaving Giteau out of the World Cup team.
        The weather and Hooper’s debut were factors too.
        Later that year George Smith left the wallabies, years before his used by date too.
        Not the ass clowns fault but Dean’s had very similar sort of failures two years before the end of his international coaching, so I can see how you mixed them up.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Hence why I said the last five years. Deans issues were similar but different.

        • Bobas

          Sorry, didn’t read the last 5 years part. We lost in the goldcoast to Argentina in the recent past under Cheika. I thought that was what your were referring to.

    • onlinesideline

      The argies will be seriously up for it and chomping at the bit. They will be fresh and fit and if we under estimate these guys, its red faces all over again and I’m not talking the Daryl and Ozzie kind (oh yes I am)

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        Absolutely on the Argies. Agree 100% on the Stadium being a shit place to watch a game. That new one at Parramatta is a brilliant stadium and I’d much rather watch a game there.

    • Hoss

      I think you mean the spiritual home of Rugby in Australia, barring one east coast low in 2012 where the rain came in at 90 degrees, a freezing southerly hammered us, the bonny Scotts got up and Brian suffered hypothermia………

  • Steve

    Some really good stuff today, not least because of the win from Saturday.
    Some great performances not least from James Slipper, an absolute rock in any team he plays in.

    I follow all the Aus rugby channels on social, and first I came across these Aus XV or A games was seeing some highlight of Tom Wright and Irae Simone scoring a try, no idea who the opposition was or what they were doing.

    Some room for improvement there for the marketing department.

    • Brisneyland Local

      Well it is RA. They couldnt organise a you know what in a brewery!

    • Tah Tragic

      My understanding was that RA wanted to promote the games, get a crowd and live stream them but the Argies said no. I’m not sure why.
      I don’t think you can blame RA for this one.

      • Yowie

        How much say in the matter would the visiting team have?

        F*ck it. Next time we’re playing away we should request no crowd or stadium hype-up music and see how that goes.

        • Custardtaht

          And no lasers….

        • Tah Tragic

          A bit harsh given what they have been through just to get here. They have had absolutely no game time. Also remember they now have Cheika as an assistant coach. You have to feel a bit sorry for them.

        • Yowie

          Not being able to understand Cheika when he’s talking would be blessed relief for those players.

          (I include the Argie players who have functional English language skills in that.)

        • Greg

          He speaks Italian (and french). It is only a short hop from italian to spanish

        • Bobas

          ¿Sabes-a-lo-que-me-refiero?

        • Greg

          genau!

        • Yowie
        • Damo

          Great movie.

        • Damo

          Luckily for them they “don’t know what he means”.

  • Brisneyland Local

    Morning GAGR’s. Well what a glorious weekend. Still on a high from it, but alas into work I go and that will surely bring the vibe down. BL’s mad ramblings for a Monday Morning.
    – Well done slips, you are a great servant to the game and an all round good bloke. Here is to watching you for years to come.
    – That win was great, but there are still some basic failings of the team that they need to continue working on.
    – The Force are quietly recruiting some handy players. I cant wait to see the new SR Aus year and how it goes. The Force should be very competitive.
    – Prep for the FISM’s should be equal in intensity to prepping for the Nearlies. Standards cant slip. This needs to be focus focus focus. Cant wait for the next game. Bring it on.
    Over to you GAGR’s!

    • onlinesideline

      yep, we need consistency during all parts of the 80 mins and but also consistency from one game to the next. This is where we need to harden up mentally.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yep you are 100% correct there. The Wobs are not yet mentally resilient. And are only just re-learning how to win.

    • KwAussie Rugby Lover

      The good thing now is that we have a coaching team that will address those failings and continue to improve. I’m getting excited for the Wallabies and see us getting back on an equal footing where neither of us will be able to go into a game confident because we both know the result is going to be up in the air.

      • Brisneyland Local

        I pray for that every night.

  • Nutta

    Morning Cobbers

    Congratulations James Slipper for accomplishing something I never thought you would. From your first test and being put through a contortionist lesson, to years of carrying injuries in under-performing scrums, to personal troubles in Qld, to redefing yourself in the ACT and a second coming. And you seem to be a genuine, authentic fella in all of it. Massive journey and full balls to you for accomplishing it. Now keep going…

    Reflections on the test:
    For mine, seeing Hodge do so well was grand. I don’t think he is a 10 and still don’t. But the result said otherwise. It’s worth remembering the last running 10 we had was Larkham and he did alright. And someone who can clearing kick clean out of the half was so reassuring to see. But it does mean we need a 2nd 5/8 and not a bash-12 plus a 15 who can distribute so I reckon the mix is Simone at 12 and JOC for 15 if Hodge is the 10. Re Swinton – don’t be surprised when a sheep grows wool. We picked a guy for amperage and amperage is what he gave. The fact he did it 15min after the AiB led the way made it oh so dumb that it was breathtaking. You saw Nic Berrys look of sheer fkn relief when he got to even the numbers up. Ref – Despite all the hate otherwise, I thought Nic reffed a pretty fair game. I don’t agree with the current red interpretation, but as it stands, he applied it consistently and both ways. Plus he put up with no creative obstructionist shit from anyone – again both sides – and communicated that to players well enough that it didn’t become an issue. And his yellow on Barrett came after a clear bit of cynical play, in an attacking 22 and after a general warning so it was all fine. I thought he did well. And lastly, whilst it probably happens after every test, the amount of kit-giving into the crowd by both teams, as captured by the cameras, was fantastic to see. Jersey’s, shorts, training-tops, tracksuit tops etc all went into the crowd and along with the selfies being taken with punters it was great to see. More of please. Bloody fantastic.

    I 2nd BL in calling out the need to refocus on the new challenge – the Argies. What’s done is done and cannot be undone. The Bled is over. What we can change is what happens next. Likewise I appreciate DR’s words regarding a draw and a win is not enough. So on we go with a fresh smile and knowledge that no-one is cemented into a spot and the way you keep your jersey is to play better than anyone does.

    Onwards…

    • Da Munch

      I thought Berry was pretty good as well. The two things that stood out to me was Sevu in the 20th minute, 10m out with Wannas on attach, went off his feet, sealed off and then played the ball. I’m only mentioning it as I’ve listened 10’s and Fox’s commentary and both don’t mention it but the focus on Sevu’s face afterwards says it all, “I’m going to get some cheese” but nothing. The other was all the focus to the heads of the Wannas by the ABs with Slipper and White obviously copping a lot.

      • Nutta

        Yup. Noted that. And I also noted the 2x dive-overs within 2 shakes of the lambs tail of Bazza getting his card – a direct “I dare you…” to NicB to “do it again”. I get that ‘everyone does it’ and I’m not saying the Wobblies are vestal virgins either, but it – and timewasting at the scrum engagement – are my two issues with law interpretations right now.

        • Greg

          in terms of gripes… I would like to see some short-arm penalties for “failing to show up for a line out”.

          The defensive team forms up and the team throwing in goes and has a meeting, picks pansies from the turf, holds hands and then decides if they will join the lineout.

          Give them 15 seconds and blow a free kick – problem solved.

        • Yowie

          I would like to see some short-arm penalties for “failing to show up for a line out”.

          I thought you were having a shot at the Reds this season, but then you went on to explain.

    • Who?

      You saw Nic Berrys look of sheer fkn relief when he got to even the numbers up.

      I said he did very well in the first 20, very well in the last 20, did very well to regain his composure, but was poor in the middle 40. Both calls on the RC’s were absolutely correct. But after the first one, he allowed Cane’s massive offside off the back of a disintegrating AB scrum where he intercepted a pass off the deck from Wilson 3m behind our scrum. Then he missed Laumape sealing off and instead penalized the 2nd offence, putting Koroibete into bed. About 60 minutes, he started to regain confidence.

      Hodge, I can’t help but wonder if he shouldn’t end up at 12… Big ball carrier, takes off some of the pressure to be able to throw the long ball, but still able to step in and hoof that ball away.

      Loved Hooper’s reaction to the win. Almost nonplussed. No cheering.

  • KwAussie Rugby Lover

    Thanks Nathan, well what a shit weekend. Not the rugby and congratulations for what comes across as a well deserved win by the Wallabies.

    No my weekend was stuffed because I moved house last week and FOXTEL completely stuffed up the move. On Saturday I had No Foxtel, No internet, No FTA TV and No Foxtel Go. I spent 3 hrs on the phone and in the end threw my toys out of the cot and took the wife out for dinner. Got a couple of txt and emails during the night from my Aussie mates telling me gleefully where things were at but that was it.

    OK Rant time. I just wish ex players who were great players but that’s all they’ve got would just stop with the bullshit complaints against the Red Cards. I really don’t understand all this shit about the referee ruining the game and it being bad for rugby. Lets get one thing clear, the red cards are issued because a player does something wrong, not the referee the AR’s or the TMO, it’s the player who for whatever reason has a brainfart and does an act that is deemed by world rugby to be so critical to the safety of the other players that they have to be sent off. If the payers are too stupid to change the way they play, or the coaches are too stupid to not change the way they coach then it is 100% on them. Now while Kirwan was one of the greatest wingers to play the game, and while he has done wonders for mental health and getting blokes to be able to recognise and talk about it, he is not by any stretch of the imagination a clever bloke and he should just shut the fuck up. Giteau, again a brilliant player and one of the best, but hearing how often he gets the law wrong when he talks about the game again not one of the smartest blokes around so pull your head in on the Red cards and fuck off. I personally am glad that rugby has taken a stance on high tackles and is trying to get them out of the game. I’ve been concussed from a high tackle a couple of times and it’s not a great place to be. There are a lot of very sick ex players out there who are suffering from the effects of high tackles and we need to take this out of the game. All those people moaning about this can fuck off and watch league, that’s where muttons belong. OK, Breathe………. and relax……..

    I did see the presentation from Cane to Slipper after the match and I thought both James and Sam were classy in the presentation. Great to see us back to the past where we are enemies on the field and mates off it. It’s one of the things that makes rugby so great and so glad to see it on display. Congratulations on Slipper making 100 games. Great to see.

    Gee the Force are getting a good team ready for next year, Hopefully soon we’ll all know what that will look like.

    Rock on the Tri Nations. Looking forward to seeing how Argentina go and I think both the ABs and Wallabies need to be wary of under estimating them as it could bite hard.

    • Yowie

      I hope your wife feels truly special when taking her out to dinner happens only after all other evening options are ruled-out (accompanied by much swearing and frustration on your part).

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        hahahaha to be fair it’s only an option on test night when I can’t see the game. Plenty of other nights when there isn’t a test match on that we can go out as well

        • Custardtaht

          Plenty of other nignts when there isn’t a test match on that we can go out as well”

          So you can go out those other nights but choose not to, unless it is a test night and you can’t watch it?

          During the test window, I only in engage in victory coitus…..so pretty sure after Cheikas reign, my 1st born might not be mine.

        • Greg

          This is your 15 year old?

        • Yowie

          Everyone aged at a rapid rate during the Cheika years.

        • Custardtaht

          Yep, with the Kiwi accent…..

        • Damo

          G&GR comments page is like a box of chocolates. “…victory coitus…” You’re not reading those words together anywhere else. Cheers boys!!

        • Yowie

          There is a reason Custardtaht has Wallaby tests on tape and watches them over summer.

          If Mrs CT learns to recognise Eales, Horan, Kefu etc. from the grainy VHS footage on screen the little ruse will be sprung.

        • Custardtaht

          True. She is astounded at how close the games are. She can’t believe that it nearly always comes down to kick to win the game.

        • Yowie

          We all like a bit of extra frisson in a long-term relationship.

        • Damo

          Or you can just go fisshon.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Not totally choose not to. My wallet usually restricts me more than anything else. Oh that’s gold. Poor little kid forever wondering who that dad is

        • Custardtaht

          A McHappy meal counts as dining out, and how can anyone be unhappy about a McHappy meal. Wear a military uniform and you get a discount, so from your wallet to the Mrs, everyone wins!

          Think it has an inkling, it has a sheep dog called Richie.

        • Yowie

          …a McHappy meal. Wear a military uniform and you get a discount…

          I’m waiting for Andrew Bolt’s furious rant about not receiving a discount for wearing his WW2 black uniform with the little lightning bolts.

          “It’s Hugo Boss and everything. PC has gone mad in this country’s franchise restaurants.”

        • onlinesideline

          Yeah and we all know how young Hugo got his first career break.

        • Keith Butler

          If he’s born with cauliflower ears ???

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    • Greg

      Some good points KRL.
      Please tell me that you didn’t tell your wife dinner was on because the rugby was not available!

      As the red cards, completely agree. The laws and guidelines are clear. Player safety is unrelated to malicious intent.

      I would actually be happy with stronger sanctions for cynical play. What to do with Barret’s effort? Penalty try? Red card? Suspension post game for not playing in the spirit of the game? Coach drops him for being a dope? The problem with those actions is that there is often a reaction and the reacting player wears the sanction. Perhaps the instigator gets the same sanction as the reacting player?

      [I acknowledge a bias here as I think that the nz team is coached to play cynically. They are too good at it for it to be accidental. It also magically stops when a yellow card is threatened]

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        I’m a bit stupid at times mate but not stupid enough to ever say that.

        I don’t think it’s so much cynical play as more that players are taught to play to the referee. I remember my coach telling me that I had to push the boundaries and when I received a penalty I knew where they were for that particular referee. At the end of the day that penalty and card stopped any chance of a NZ come back so the result was appropriate.

        I’m happy for the reacting player to get sanctioned because it’s a way of providing the players a chance to have a 2nd think and teach themselves not to react. That prevents little things becoming big things during a game and I’m all for that. I find that when I sanction a player for reacting it generally stops things from getting out of control.

      • formerflanker

        HJ’s brilliant photos of the game has one where Hodge is being held back while trying to get to a pass.
        Clearly cynical obstruction.
        It happens around the breakdown a lot too, where potential defenders are taken out with illegal clean outs.

    • Who?

      The contrast between 24 minutes in time on (where Slipper and Cane just about came to blows) and 95 minutes (Cane presenting Slipper with a handshake and a big bottle of wine, and Slipper reciprocating with a hug) was one of the highlights of the night. The respect shown between two blokes who’ve been there and done it, represented their country to their best, had massive challenges (Cane with his neck, Slipper with his shoulder and mental health)… Great stuff.

      Completely agree about high tackles. Anyone would think that high tackles have only just been made illegal, such is the carry on. I don’t believe they’ve been legal in my entire lifetime… If they’ve never been legal, then why should we be concerned when the standard punishment increases? They were never legal!

      • Keith Butler

        Agreed Who? Only time I’ve been sent off. Caught up with the bloke I did the damage to in the bar and we both bought each other pints and had a laugh over the incident. Didn’t stop me getting 12 weeks suspension though!

        • Yowie

          Pretty harsh to get 12 weeks for bashing your own team-mate Keith.

        • Greg

          There is leniency if it is your own 2 or 9.

          Apart from that I think that they take a hard line.

        • Keith Butler

          I was always pretty clumsy with my feet. Didn’t matter if it was my teammates or the opposition. On this occasion I got it right. Returning the favour on the oppo prop who stamped on our 9. That was why we brought each other beers. Job well done I say!

      • Dud Roodt

        No one is saying head high’s were, are, or should be legal, I think the argument is that the leeway and nuance that was once associated with high shots has been removed altogether. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing necessarily, as I think in decades to come when it’s time for certain sports to pay up for the damage to former players, rugby will have a very good argument to take to court (over say, the NRL who appear to follow the “if his head is still attached to his shoulders it was a legal shot” method of saving the brains of their players – or the cavity were the brain would usually reside at the very least).

        Five years ago neither of those red cards would have even been yellows, so it’s obviously taking some old players a bit of time to get used to it.

        • Who?

          I agree that, five years ago, there’d not have been a YC for either. 2017 was when they decided to really clamp down on high shots – they became almost automatic YC’s. And as of last year, they’re almost automatic RC’s. I agree that this is a big deal in terms of liability down the track, and that Rugby’s doing as much as or more than anyone else to reduce these impacts.

          But when you see tweets like this:

          That has been a quality tackle for 197 years.A red card is absolute insanity.#ausvnz— Mike Thorpe (@MikeThorpeTVNZ) November 7, 2020

          And comments from the imbeciles on Fox (comments born of too many hits to the head!)…

          We fans are seemingly much more pragmatic about it all.

        • I felt a tiny bit of sympathy for the Kiwi prop. It looked to me, like Wright got ankle tapped and arrived far earlier than Tu’ungafasi expected, and lower with his left leg buckling. I think there was a case for mitigation down to a YC there. However, I’m not throwing my toys out of the pram, I don’t think it was really cut and it was a borderline call between red and yellow. Red it was, and while I might have gone yellow, can’t complain Berry didn’t.

          The idiots that have retired might scream and shout, but no one on the paddock batted an eyelid about either RC. They understand the framework, they can see the replay, they knew what was coming.

          And, honestly, protecting players from concussions and long-term brain damage – who can say that’s a bad thing?

          I think there’s still a case for an orange card. 10 minutes and then you can’t return but a replacement can. Penalise the player, not the team and not the fans. Keep red for things like throwing a punch, kicking, stamping. But I know there’s a huge division on that, and pundits that should know better aside, no real complaints about the red.

        • Who?

          My honest first call on Ofa’s hit was YC. But when you’ve got all 4 match officials (not al Australian) saying there’s no mitigating factors…
          That said, arguably the bigger issue is that he drove up, not forward. The shot at ground level from the left and behind were best to indicate that. So if Wright had arrived later, he’d have actually hit him higher.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Mate I think the future legal challenge is definitely part of the reason. I’m just glad they’re making the game safer for the players.

        • Geoffro

          Sure.I mean to say,a few good shots to the head never affected Kearnsey and co’s mental capabilities aye ……

        • Yowie

          I like that bit in a/the documentary about rugby turning professional where Kearns reflects on “not doing their due diligence” on the so-called World Rugby Corporation that was basically a very small company operating out of a hotel room making these grand offers to players.

        • Geoffro

          Kearnsey the master negotiator..I wouldnt hold my breath on the RWC coming here in ’27

    • Crescent

      I am going to join in on the red card “controversy”. As frustrating as the red cards were, they are a necessary evil if we are serious about managing the damage of repeated concussion and the impacts in post professional sporting life. As opposed to “rugby has gone soft”, the media messaging has to be “rugby is taking a lead and are serious about the issue”.

      It may not be popular, and I felt for both players in there was no malicious intent to go looking to belt a bloke in the head – but concussion does not take intent into account either. The medical evidence on the long term impacts of repeated concussion are clear and devastating. There will still be concussions, but if we can manage a significant risk by lowering the tackle height, then we need to be wear some difficult decisions until the players learn to consistently lower the height of contact.

      Time to get off my soap box.

      As for the match – I will take the result and really enjoyed being able to sit down and watch the recorded match again. Can see the work in progress, and as others have said, there is more to be done, and we cannot step back vs Argentina. My pet hate of isolated runners turning ball over is still there. Hodge went well at 10 and was solid in defending the channel as well. I struggle to see him at 10, but that would be one of the many reasons I am not an international standard coach or selector.

      I really loved seeing Wright receive a kick, look up, read the field and choose to run from the 22 instead of hoofing it back down field. Didn’t hurt the play yielded a red card as well, but I loved the confidence and smarts, particularly from a guy on debut.

      Plenty to love, plenty of work to do, love the DR attitude and am hopeful he can spread that attitude and ethic throughout the squad – it can only help the team to grow and improve.

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        DR is proving to be very good. I thought his comments after the game were really great, being able to understand what he’s saying is a great start, but he also comes across as articulate and thoughtful. Both him and Foster’s response to the cards was good.

      • Who?

        With the cards, I felt sorry for someone else. Akira Ioane. On debut, and subbed off at 31 minutes (first scrum) for something he had absolutely no control over.

      • onlinesideline

        Umm …. its just a hunch but Id say Swintons intent was just a little itzy bitzy malicious. But just a little less than a cardy. (sarcasmo) – Swinton looked like he wanted to knock him out. LBH. He basically tried to divebomb the kiwi from a higher position.

    • GeorgiaSatellite

      KARL, can you imagine another instance where a body appointed to look after the interests of its constituents consults top scientists in a relevant field and implements best practice based on the advice given, only to be contradicted by someone whose scientific credentials consist solely of a media profile? I can’t…

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        Well maybe the US Presidency under Trump

    • Graeme

      I don’t think the issue is the giving out of red cards, if the punishment was appropriate, then I think more red cards should and would be given out. The punishment should be mostly to the player not the team and spectators. 10-15 minutes and then a forced replacement so that the game is still a spectacle. The player misses the rest of the game, has too face the judiciary and will get a ban of several weeks. And, of course, if a player keeps getting red carded, the ban gets longer. The player is being punished, and I think this would mean refs would be more likely to give cards for dangerous play since it wouldn’t mean potentially ruining a game for the spectators. Many people have expressed this opinion, but we still have the same state of play.

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        Or maybe players can just learn to not do the acts that lead to a red card. I can see now how in a final or other important match send out a hit man to take out an important opposition knowing that you won’t be down a player but they’ll have lost their playmaker. I think the message to leave heads alone is important enough that it needs a player down to reinforce the message. As mentioned elsewhere spectators and media alike need to change their focus from “red cards ruining the game” to “rugby being serious about protecting players”

  • onlinesideline

    Gregor Paul wrote about how the physciarist of the nearlies made them aware of blue and red mindsets. Red being too hot under collar when under pressure, blue mind being more zen when under pressure.

    THE way to beat these sheepshaggers is to combine right up in your face D
    hello Marika and quality niggle – hello Nick White.

    The weakness of the the nearlies is actually their strength. Hear me out.
    They somwhat rely on the mental edge they get over teams from their reputation, the mystique of the black jumper, the propaganda and the marketing of this mystique. The whole nine yards. So they are under pressure the whole time to also live up to this cool calm and collected individual and team persona of being in control teh whole time. Flexible, adaptable, able to rise to any challenge. As soon as this zen rythm is disrupted and their personas of said above start to visibly crack, the more than any other team are vunerable. Why ? BECAUSE ITS ALL BS.

    The AB propoganda machine can potentially be as dangerous as the famous imposter syndrome high tech CEOs comaplin about. ie the difference between projected self and real self. This is when Nick White comes in. He was bloody brilliant at this and its quite amazing to see just how personally offended or easily offfended some of nearlies get at niggle.
    Its from this the Wallabies can really upset the darkness if its done right and smart and in conjunction with the right defense and run them off their feet offense. Cant wait for next year.

    • Hambone

      It Was a joy to see how rattled they were on the park Saturday night. The normally ‘clinical’ and I use that term loosely blacks really came apart at the seams, a bit like the proclamation of all their online Russian troll farms that it was only their B team yada yada dead rubber yada yada.

      • Hambone
        • Who?

          That was about 1 minute after ALB had literally thrown White across the in goal. Neither player received the slightest warning…

        • Yowie

          Yeah, but how much damage can two little fellows really do to each other?

        • Geoffro
        • Yowie

          Now when I open youtube there are suggestions of other midget wrestling matches.

          Honestly, you watch one video of something weird and it comes back to haunt you…

        • Geoffro

          Sorry.It is a bit of an aberration really and woudn’t expect it to be wildly popular.I was impressed with those guys athleticism but not something I’m particulary keen on pc or no,same as pro wrestling..

        • Yowie

          Haha, all good. I’m just having a laugh at the google systems that seem to say “we’ve got heaps more of that for you!” when you look at a thing once. It’s gotten to the point where I use another browser (max privacy settings) when I want to look something up without getting more suggestions of it for 6 months.

          My curiosity about (eg) how to fix household item x is definitely satisfied after I see the video then fix the item.

  • Da Munch

    It was great to see the Wannas win especially happy for Dave+Slipper.
    I thought the Wannas played pretty smart but the one dumb thing that stuck out to me was after the 1st red why didn’t the Wannas call a scrum for the penalty at the line out? Would of meant loosing a back with the substitution because they needed a prop. Pretty dumb play for me.

    • donktec

      they seemed to be over-excited by being one man up and didn’t know how to best take advantage of it. then when the ABs had possession they stepped up a gear and looked dangerous even a man down. eventually when things settled down we managed to apply some pressure and it was good to see the nearlies wheezing under the posts!

  • Reds Revival

    Work keeps getting in the way of some important rugby chat this morning!
    I’m still on a high from the game on the weekend. I just loved the way that they “showed up” as a pack, and played tactically smart rugby – something we haven’t seen for some time.
    I thought Nick Berry had a good game. I particularly liked the way that he allowed the play to continue while he got the TMO to check an incident. That is clever game management on his behalf. Once, there was no issue and the game carried on. The other time, it was called back for a forward pass.
    I am glad that the AB’s are playing Los Pumas first, as I think that they won’t be the easy beats that everyone expects them to be. Having watched most of their game on Saturday, their offload game is really quite good, and will be a handful for both the ABs and Wallabies.

    • Yowie

      Who would have thought (apart from “every other rugby playing nation”) that continuing to apply pressure by kicking 3-point penalties could produce a win.

      I caught the 9 News sports report on the game and (apart from more air time for the “shoulder-to-head is fine in Loig” waffle) Ch9 pointed out that the ABs actually scored more tries than Australia. Under the ASFFTL* the moral victory goes to the AB’s I suppose. We’ll just have to console ourselves with the actual victory.

      [*Aussie System For Far Too Long]

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        Consoling yourself with an actual victory doesn’t sound like much of a hardship

        • Yowie

          I just hope this “playing the Australian way” BS can have a rest for a while and that we can make better decisions on the field.

          I like seeing try-scoring positive attacking rugby as much as anyone in the Southern Hemisphere, but it doesn’t mean we need to kick for the corner every single time for fear of being seen as un-Australian wusses or something.

          Our armed forces don’t hold back on the use of artillery because the bayonet charge has a more tough-guy mystique about it.

        • Damo

          4 mates. Very social golfers. 1st tee. Everyone gets out the driver…

        • Yowie

          Except if it’s a 210m par 3. You don’t use a wood on a Par 3 mate

        • Reds Revival

          You carry other clubs than a wood? You must be a serious golfer.

  • Custardtaht

    Broadcast deal signed with 9. 3 years 100 million. All wallaby tests, 1 Super Au game per week plus all super finals.

    Good job by Castle to lay the ground work for this.

    • Reds Revival

      That’s a good outcome. I’m pretty happy with that arrangement, but the devil will be in the detail (and whether 9 decided to grow the game, or just keep it in the back drawer so it doesn’t cannibalise their League product).

      • Damo

        If they were really smart they would embrace and co promote the 2 x rugby codes. Stealing AFL viewership should be the real goal.

        • Reds Revival

          Completely agree Damo, and as I have said before, we need to unite against the common enemy – Victoria!

    • Dally M

      Massive win for Rugby and no doubt the first toe in the Stan/Sports water before Nine takes League back from Fox and puts those games on Stan as well.

      Looks like the end of FTA Shute Shield though.

      Bonus for me as i’ll save $10/month switching from Kayo and pick up some other stuff for the wife & kids to watch.

    • KwAussie Rugby Lover

      That’s awesome. Good to see another Kiwi set things up for RA :-) So from next year my Foxtel bill will be severely reduced. Might even disappear altogether although I still want to watch the 6N if I can

      • Damo

        Yep, good bye Fox, hello Stan- although I will miss The Great Australian Bake-off.

    • Crescent

      Just saw the news release on Rugby Pravda – looks to be a pretty comprehensive deal, taking in Super Rugby, SANZAAR partner home tests, Shute Shield and Hospital Cup. Leaves out Spring Tour tests and GRR – I guess they are expecting Force to be part of the 2021 Super Rugby setup.

      At least now the 9 “empire” have a financial stake in building up rugby instead of pulling it down – interesting that rugby is to be a significant part of the launch of Stan Sport…..

      • Yowie

        Perhaps Ch10 keeps the Spring Tour.
        Not a bad thing or I’ll miss hearing Gordon Bray too much (details of where players’ aunties are watching and everything).

        • Damo

          Who can forget “… All Black halfback today is Taranaki pig farmer Dave Loveridge…”

      • GeorgiaSatellite

        RA don’t have the rights to spring tour or GRR. Not theirs to sell. May still end up on 9 if they decide to become ‘the home of rugby in Oz’.

    • Hambone

      Correct me if I’m wrong. But it sounds like traded one live super rugby match on free to air for live wallaby tests on free to air? Sounds like a backward step a little https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8c91931ec3819545c4cfe23b20d285da15f832e0d64c2028bce1beae5fa8037f.jpg

      • Hambone

        Sidenote: I’m pretty happy to be done with foxtel after their hatchet job on castle and RA.

      • Yowie

        Bugger. I don’t think it’s conspiratorial to worry about 9 burying rugby when they definitely have some prior form.

      • Custardtaht

        That’s different to the original release I read. It has come out after so probably this is correct

      • Reds Revival

        Yes, if a Rugby International clashes with a Jersey Flegg Cup game, they want the freedom to bump the Wallabies to the back room.

    • servo

      No mention of the NRC which is a shame

  • KwAussie Rugby Lover

    Just saw 9 has signed with RA. Goodbye Foxtel, especially after Saturday’s night shit fight

  • UTG

    Made some comments before the game that most of the play would be run off White and Hodge would act as a link man.

    They did that and it worked but it’s not the model I’d go with long-term. JOC straight back to 10 next test for the Argies. Paisami was very good at 12 but Hodge at 12 outside JOC would make for a really nicely balanced 10-12 axis with Hunter off the bench in the last 20-30 to run amok.

    Not surprised Tom Wright stepped up with ease and didn’t look out of place. I sense he will end up as the long-term 15.

    • Patrick

      It may be but both England and France have very good packs too. France’s 5 7 and 8 are all world class imho.

  • The Jackal

    So we have traded FTA Shute Shield every week for one Super Rugby game? Lateral step really for exposure

    Will have to get used to ads during games it has been doing my head in during the NRL GF and SOO. Here is hoping Nine put in a bit more effort than they do on their main sport

    • Who?

      Dunno about that mate… Thinking about it, more people have heard of Super Rugby than have heard of Shute Shield.

  • Reds Revival

    Are we taking bets yet on who 9/Stan will be getting as their commentary team?

    • Greg

      Hoss?

      It might be better than Roy and HG?!

      • Yowie

        Only if Hoss exclusively uses the nicknames.

      • onlinesideline

        we should have a GGR live blog during game time though
        Pretty easy to set up
        Anything but the roar

        • Yowie

          That could go downhill really fast if my frustration during bad games and alcohol consumption during most test matches is any kind of guide to GaGR clear-headed professional commentary potential.

        • onlinesideline

          parliamentary prividlege — during game time no rules

        • Brisneyland Local

          I am in. I am sure we can get a few of the crew together!

    • onlinesideline

      Kenny Sutcliffe ? (Mr Chuckles)

      • Reds Revival

        Jokes like that just aren’t funny OLSL. Probably because they are bit too close to reality…

        • Who?

          I’d take Kenny over MacAvaney…

    • Damo

      I don’t give a rats about the 4 wise men who sit around the desk- that’s when I get up and get another drink. It’s the game commentary team that’s the most scary. We assume it won’t be Rabsy because he knows very little about the nuances of rugby- but that hasn’t stopped Fox. I could live with Greg Clarke if they want to give him a job. I don’t think there is a rugby version of Gus Gould- thank God.

      • Reds Revival

        Phil Kearns is Rugby’s version of Gus Gould…

  • mortlucky

    Great win. Well done all.

    Acknowledging all the positives already mentioned, tell me, what was with the human centipede at ruck time? Did the piggies need a break or a conga? At one ruck I counted 6 of us and 2 of them (one on the ground). Strange.

  • Yowie

    https://www.betootaadvocate.com/sports/australians-now-able-to-watch-rugby-union-without-having-a-hole-drilled-through-their-house/

    However, the transition to free-to-air was the only option for RA interim CEO Rob Clarke, who cited the growing membership numbers and TV audiences in rival codes.

    “We thought, why not let the povo kids watch a few matches” said Clarke.

    “Maybe they’ll even play”

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