Player Ratings: Wallabies v. Boks 2

Hugh Cavill September 30, 2012 45

No GravatarWell, that was ugly.

Normally I try and rewatch the game before doing player ratings. However, it’s the long weekend and I am trying to maintain a cheerful, relaxed vibe. Thus I am going nowhere near that abomination again. In short, we were out-muscled, out-enthused, out-thought. The scoreline was probably generous to us. So with that in mind I have dished out a few hard scores, despite the fact that no one had an absolute shocker.

Have a look and see what you think:

 

15 Berrick Barnes 3 Failed to make an impact on the game before being subbed off with a chest injury at the half hour mark.
14 Dom Shipperley 4 Had plenty of opportunities but struggled in the face of the committed Springbok defence. Is yet to prove his ‘flyer’ credentials at the top level, though his defence is solid.
13 Adam Ashley-Cooper 5 As usual cannot fault him for effort, though he battled to find space. Was subbed just before half time after putting his head in harms way one too many times, although he saved a try in the process.
12 Pat McCabe 4 Unusually quiet game. Crashed the ball up a few times, made a few good tackles. But this was a physical slogfest and he should’ve been more prominent.
11 Digby Ioane 4 Like Shipperley he had plenty of ball but didn’t do much with it. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Digby so well contained. Succumbed to injury with 20 to go.
10 Kurtley Beale 7 Was a one-man band in the backs, a clear standout. Looked dangerous almost every time he had the ball, however was let down by a lack of good go-forward momentum. Defence still needs a bit of work, some of his tackle attempts were Cooper-esque.
9 Nick Phipps 5 Battled away without making many errors. Speed and quality of service was good, especially considering we were going backwards.
8 Radike Samo 3 Not his best. Made a few big hits but not much more. Too often ran away from his support and isolated himself. We needed more impact from him.
7 Michael Hooper 8 The shining light of the evening. Did it all- runs, tackles, turnovers. Was the only Aussie forward to really stand up, and as a result he takes out the G&GR Man of the Match.
6 Dave Dennis 3 Did he even play? Was really disappointed with his performance. No impact with the ball or in defence. He has had his chance at the top level, think it’s time to try someone else.
5 Nathan Sharpe 6 The old warhorse put in his usual effort. Trucked the ball up continuously, and got around the field OK. If we had a few more like him it would have been closer.
4 Kane Douglas 3 A bad case of second-game syndrome sadly. Barely touched the ball, and I don’t think Clarkie called his name once. This was a game taylor-made for his style, and he faultered. We missed Timani.
3 Ben Alexander 5 The scrum held up OK, and he played almost the full 80. Little impact around the park though.
2 Tatafu Polota-Nau 6 Was one of the few forwards who kept fighting right until the final whistle (well, almost). Struggled to make ground, but kept trying and trying. Lineout was OK.
1 Benn Robinson 5 OK for the 30 or so minutes he was on, ans when he made his return right at the end.
16 Saia Faingaa n/a
17 James Slipper 3 Although harshly sin-binned (in my opinion) there is no doubt this cost the Wallabies dearly.
18 Rob Simmons 5 Had a few nice touches off the bench, was hardly an ‘impact sub’ though.
19 Liam Gill 5 Serviceable from the bench.
20 Mike Harris 5 Scored a nice try, however like all the backs he struggled to make inroads.
21 Brett Sheehan 5 Didn’t let the side down in his 15 minutes.
22 Anthony Faingaa 5 Solid but not brilliant. Typical A Faingaa display.

 

G&GR Patented Player ratings scale

10 – A legendary performance to go down in the history books
9 – Outstanding performance: Man of the match shoo-in
8 – Excellent all-round game
7 – Good game with a few sparkles
6 – Solid performance
5 – Average – ho-hum
4 – Below par
3 – Had a bad game
2 – Tell your story walking, pal
1 – A complete joke

 

What do you think?

Discussion »

  • Ben

    Probably about fair. The Boks were rampant and in truth the Wallabies escaped lightly – on the scoreboard at least.

    I do think Deans has come to the end of his tether with this side, but it’s difficult to read too much into this result given the Wallabies’ injury woes. If Digby and Barnes don’t make the game next week, will a single first choice player front up in position? And don’t say Ben Alexander!

    • suckerforred

      Barnes certainly won’t. If he is picked to go on the EOY tour then we know selectors are trying to kill him. Broken rib & punctured lung – at least an 8 week layoff with absolutely no contact training.

  • gel

    hahahaha.

  • Redsfan1

    You think Deans has come to the end of his tether? THINK?!

    I feel increasingly like an old fool when I try to remind friends that the Wallabies were once a good team.

    Deans has given us almost 5 years of humiliation heaped upon humiliation. with lame & bland credit given to his opponents after each shellacking.. The true mark of a loser.

    Shame on the ARU for not making a coaching change/ review after the World Cup.

    Shame on the Wallabies staff who continually allow our stars to actually get injured in TRAINING as well as games. Obviously something is very wrong in the gym with the Wallabies that they are so brittle. That’s not bad luck it’s poor preparation.

    Rant Over.

  • bill

    Thought McCabe was ok, Beale, well Kafer had it right, on his second touches he looked good, first touches it was either he didn’t have the the options available (which comes back to the coach and the forwards) to make the defence guess or it was because he was vanilla, but decent all the same. More down to good bok play rather than bad wallaby play.

    I’m glad to see they’re much more disciplined about their grubbers/chips, but a couple of times they were the right option and they took it into isolated contact instead.

    On the bright side, Harris. He at least has some pace, a better option than Barnes if you want a fullback, at 5/8 you’d probably prefer Barnes.

    • Brumby Runner

      I’d prefer no Barnes at all thank you. And for that matter no Sharpe or Simmons either – both as weak as water.

      On the other hand I did think Harris played ok when he came on.

  • first time long time

    If cooper had played the same game beale played last night, including the rubbish pass into touch and then missing the tackle that lead directly to another habana try and the inconsistent kicking, he would have been crucified.

    Lack of options for the 5/8 is not a new phenomenon it is the norm for at the moment for the wallabies.

    It is scary how easily the boks were getting over the ad line and how simple their tactic was. RUN ONTO IT HARD.

    Sometimes our forward “runners” were not only stationary when they got the ball but they were still stationary when the advancing defence gave them what they deserved.

    Something has to change and I don’t think changing all the players and keeping they same coach and tactics will work.

    • james

      agree. beale had some sparkles but he had a few normans as well. average out at 5 i would’ve thought. he needs to get fit, not that we have any choices while he gets fit…

      also feel 4 is maybe a bit harsh on shippers who did his best to get involved and was string in contact.

      • Fletch

        difference is that cooper has had 38 tests to get some consistency and build an aura and run the show properly- kurtley was thrown in on what 5 days notice. If some of those kicks and offloads aren’t enough for u to say that this is the guy long term to pivot the wallabies I be flabaghasted- oh one more thing – he’s an AUSTRALIAN and can probably do the wallaby mating call too if he wants to

        • BloodRed

          You’re on drugs if you think the rubbish that KB dished up is the long term answer to pivot for the wallabies. At best he was “busy” in the same way that Berrick is “steady”. He threw the pass into touch and missed the tackle that led to one of Habana’s many tries. He was the third pair of hands in Harris’ try not the creator of it. As a group the back line offered nothing. As a team it was clear after 5 minutes that they were putting in a Waratahs at their worst style performance. The springboks crossed the line SEVEN times! No one deserves more than 3, we were lucky not to have 50 points put on us. Deans gets negative points for a mess that will take years to correct. On your bike Dingo, get off the plane in Auckland.

        • james

          This KB I’d agree with you… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExhE0Qs0W68&feature=player_embedded

          The Kurtley we’ve seen the last couple months – not the revelation you are proclaiming.

          You could equally argue QC was thrown into the Auckland test with 5 days notice having been declared ‘not fit’ the week before. I though they’re games were about on par, sparkles and fuck ups.

          Both would do better in a team that is well drilled and has a game plan. That’s a moot point for QC given his off field antics. KB needs that and to become 2010 KB again. Based on his overall performances this year in gold, he should only still be on tour because of injuries.

      • Brumby Runner

        Better watch the game again James. Shipperly was very tentative going into contact most of the game. This was particularly disappointing, because I had been calling for his inclusion for some time, and he had played well in his first game. Very soft against the Saffas, but then so was almost every other Wallaby the exception being Hooper.

    • Bay35Pablo

      5 years? Last time I checked I wasn’t too happy with the jones or Connolly eras either, but they are starting to look decent now, with the McQueen era being one where we strode the world like gods. …

    • Bay35Pablo

      Forwards taking the ball stationary has been doing my head in for both the WBs and Tahs for years now. Whenever anyone runs onto a ball I just about pass out in relief.

  • rugbyinmyblood

    Dave Dennis is killing me please get rid of him. Higgers Mowen Shatz Gill any one of these guys would out play him.

    • Timbo

      Stats tell a different story:
      Unknown Tackles
      6 runs with 27m
      7 R/M
      1 turnover

      • james

        I can’t comment had bloody south african commentary which made it confusing as to who was involved, they could at least learn who’s who!

        TPN was repeatedly called Samo.
        Simmons was exclusively called gill, till gill came on, then they didn’t call either of them anything.
        Beale went down injured… it was Diggers.
        AND on top of that there was only 2 Jaco Taute calls all game!!!! FFS!!!

        • rugbyinmyblood

          Dennis made one good run made about 20 meters on the wing that means on the rest of his runs he made 1m. 7 ineffective clean outs just what we need.

  • Who?

    Phipps was better this week! Sheehan was better than him when he was on, but Phipps started well. His issues were when he got distracted – got himself involved in a few mauls he needn’t have done, pass started to falter a bit. But an improvement.

    Beale, however… Didn’t setup any of his runners. All he had was to run left, turn right and kick. Sure, he was involved in the try (but so was Ant, with his hit and spin offload), but the job of a flyhalf isn’t to set up things for himself, it’s to set up his backline. How he was supposed to do that when it’s only a few weeks since he had his worst ever game and when he’s had basically no time at 10 (barely any at the Rebels, let alone at the Wallabies) is beyond me, so I’m not blaming him solely or even predominantly. But where other 10′s throw long balls to set up tries, Beale’s longest ball never looked like anything but a turnover, and ended up giving Habana a try.

    Can anyone explain why, with Samo and Higgers injured, instead of calling up a loosie, Robbie’s called up Caderyn Neville..? Bloke’s on drugs…

    • piggy

      “Can anyone explain why, with Samo and Higgers injured, instead of calling up a loosie, Robbie’s called up Caderyn Neville..? Bloke’s on drugs…”

      perhaps everyone else had turned their phones off…

    • Brumby Runner

      I’ll remind you that Neville played particularly well at 6 in the Shute Shield semis, but I am concerned by who will play 8. Dennis?

    • Timbo

      Third highest runs in the team. Considering the shelacking we got at the contact zone hes done pretty well. Im sick of ‘trained’ comentators automatically shelving a player after one or a few seemingly bad games. Thats like placing a cricket fielder just whre the ball landed last. We need to stick with a team that can be consistant not change it at tue drop of a hat

  • Suck it in

    Lot of big talk here. But you simply can’t get around the bleeding obvious. Which is that only one of the two core chunks of oz rugby is actually delivering. Until NSW gets fixed we will have problems. Unless of course Victoria somehow gives up afl. Have a god look at where the hard breakdown players are in oz rugby. Until we get a few more like melon we will get nothing. Dong blame this crew or even their coach. Blame the wankers who run the ego driven book rooms.

  • tc63

    I think Sheahan made a big difference when he came on.
    Quick to the breakdown quick service and a couple of good runs.
    Worth more than a 5 for a guy who joined the team a couple of weeks ago.
    Cheers TC

    • 2ndRowLegal

      I love that we only scored a try once Sheehan was on! Some may give Harris credit, but I`m saying it was our golden Western Force nugget. Now bring on Cummins.

  • mad italian flyhalf

    Wallabies Rehab XV

    15) James O’Connor (hamstring)
    14) Lachie Turner (hamstring)
    13) Rob Horne (hamstring)
    12) Christian Lealiifano (ankle)
    11) Drew Mitchell (foot)
    10) Quade Cooper (knee)
    9) Will Genia (knee)
    8) Wycliff Palu (shoulder)
    7) David Pocock (knee)
    6) Ben McCalman (arms)
    5) James Horwill (knee) captain
    4) Sitaleki Timani (hamstring)
    3) Dan Palmer (ankle)
    2) Stephen Moore (hamstring)
    1) Sekope Kepu (calf)

    Replacements: Salesi Ma’afu, Jake Schatz, Nic White, Matt Toomua, Joe Tomane, Ben Lucas, Matt Hodgson.

    World beaters infirmary XV!!

    If someone of these guys are unfortunately fit, fresh broken bones could be by Ioane, Samo, Polota-Nau and Barnes.

    Sure the Wallabies need more a head coach rather than a fitness coach?!

    • Cornie’s Beard Fluff

      I get your point, but 7 Horror-Tahs in the starting lineup? Same old, same old…

      • BloodRed

        At least he didn’t include Elsom and Vickerman

    • Johnny-boy

      Hang on Australia doesn’t have any depth remember ….

    • Johnny-boy

      And I don’t why people keep counting cooper as out injured. – Freudian slip?. And you couldn’t say Salesi maafu being out injured is a disadvantage.
      If Australian rugby is happy with a coaching team that cocks up the reserves management so we are only left with 14 players in the last ten minutes, making the keystones cops look clever, then it gets what it deserves. Is it possible to aim any lower ?

      • Brumby Runner

        Could not agree more. The coaching and management of the Wallabies is a shambles. This was their lowest point, and made them a laughing stock around the world I’d suggest.

    • skyblue

      Oh get off…maybe two of those players are world class..

  • Trys NOT Kicks

    Bullied and beaten. A few harsh decisions I felt and having 14 men at the end didn’t help for the two last tries. And hats off to AAC the man just does not give up-solid on the park and his commitment is inspirational. I have a suspicion that he delibritly had his head on the wrong side to break Kirchener momentum.

  • Touko

    I reckon quite a few of those scores are a bit generous.

    I agree Hooper was the best, but for mine his performance is what I would expect from any Wallaby forward. Go bloody hard, tackle your heart out and try to dominate the opposition. 7.

    Beale also played quite well mostly, and kept trying the whole game, but threw a few shocking passes, one of which led directly to Habana’s try, and one of which could oh so easily have gifted I’m an intercept try. 6 reduced to 5.5 because the errors were so costly.

    TPN and Sharpe need to take responsibility for a complete shambles at lineout time. Utterly dreadful. I’m not sure if we got clean ball from more than a couple of our throws, lost plenty, and did we win or disrupt any of theirs? I’d give both Sharpe and TPN 7 for effort, but no more than 4 for their actual performance. How can you win the match when the lineout is so crap?!

    All the other forwards: 5 or less. The Boks slaughtered us everywhere except perhaps the scrum, where pleasantly, we actually held our own. Really not good enough. Maybe Suzy poisoned their food?

    All the other backs: 5 or less. Hard to win behind forwards who don’t go forward, but you couldn’t say the backs contributed much either.

    • Suzy Poison

      C’mon I would never poison my bros.
      As a Saffa, I think you guys are being a bit tough on your team. Firstly Loftus is a horrible place. I from Cape Town, and even going for a short run and my lungs are burning.
      Then you spend about 20minutes with 14men, no team can win with 14men. Trust me as a Saffa, I have watched that many yellow cards, I know, from that many dirty Bok teams over the years. Lastly injuries have destroyed your team, most teams would ship 50points having that many injuries.

      Hooper, Beale, Samo, TPN, Adam Ashley Cooper never stopped trying. But I don’t know why Deans is still the coach. He had 4yrs, they should never had renewed his contract. 4yrs is time up, you just need a change, some new ideas? The Saffas got rid of Jake White after he one the World Cup. And even though P Divvy was a crazy man, I agreed with this decision. Remember Jake White was also in charge of a team that lost 49-0 in Brisbane, and then won the World Cup. Hopefully that cheers you lot up?

  • http://www.propnurse.blospot.com nursedude

    Tough to gauge as the Wallabies were already pretty beat up before this game. The Boks did play with a lot more intensity. I have to think that Deans is done as top guy for the Wallabies. My question is who will replace Deans?

    • Suzy Poison

      I would have a team. Jake White works well with other coaches. Eddy Jones, Stephen Larkham and Laurie Fisher.
      What about Jake and Ewen Mackenzie. There is no no guarantee that Ewen would be good, he only has coached at Super level. Deans in the most successful Super coach, and that hasn’t been the solution. But with the experience of Jake’s World Cup, the two could be good together? That’s if Ewen is open to the idea?

      • Johnny-boy

        Suzy, Link doesn’t need Jake White and he was assistant coach of the Wallabies under Eddie Jones. And in case it hasn’t occured to you, every international coach ever has their first game as a head coach. You can’ t buy experience like you can buy supporters on Twitter.

  • julsza

    Beale is given a 7!! If you were comparing this performance to his earlier games well yes! He was woeful as he has been all season. Several mistakes (including a pass into touch followed by a missed tackle) led to Springbok tries (if this was Cooper you would be cruicifying him – just like last week). Deans has had his chance (I was one of his most ardent supporters) but he must go – the culture of the team appears the same as the Waratahs (what has happened to their coach). Once a coach starts picking players on nothing more than loyalty then he must go!

  • Donk

    Can’t believe all the negative comments againsts kurtley’s performance. First game for the wallabies at 10, he get hardly any front foot ball and played pretty well. Most of the team missed a tackle that lead to a try!

  • http://BigFella Big Fella

    What was wrong with Harris?
    He ran like he had 2 torn hamstrings.
    He was also ponderous in making decisions with the ball.
    Isn’t he usually better than that?

    • ‘Boutbloodytime

      Too many splinters in his bum from riding the pine….you can’t expect guys who come in cold after being in the squad but only training to be match fit worldbeaters…our use of the bench is quite woeful cos in some ways it needs to be used to keep guys match fit as well as making an impact in latter stages of games.

      Deans’ usual trick of giving bench players 2 to 12 minutes doesn’t keep players match fit and Harris playing in the club final is a far cry from international intensity…then he only flew into South Africa on the Tuesday night & was probably jetlagged & as a bench player, probably very short on training with the starting XV.

  • Pete

    Here’s a thought…

    How about calling up BOB DWYER as an interim coach to get us off the canvas and through the Lions Tour of 2013…

    Then an orderly handover to Link about 12 months from now? Would allow Link to build up his team without heading straight into a firestorm against the Lions with little preparation.

    At least Bob will focus on getting the basics right – individual ball skills, the set piece, running on to the ball, you know – the stuff that the WBs under Robbie Deans seem to have completely forgotten.

    Yes, Bob has nothing to prove, being a RWC winning coach. But I’m sure he’d answer the call from his country and take on the challenge to scrub up our Wallabies into a team that would be remotely confident in fending off the Lions.

    HOW’S ABOUT IT, BOB??!

  • mark conley

    I rewatched the game and concentrated on Douglas and Dennis.
    Douglas did a lot, has great potential and should not have been pulled.
    Dennis on the other hand was and is overawed, needs a massive dose of anger pills!

  • http://BigFella Big Fella

    Thank you Kurtley Beale for taking the ball to the line @ 10.
    It didn’t always work but he had a crack in traffic and while under pressure.
    He showed plenty of ticker too so take a bow.

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