Podcast 272 - Sexy Tries - Green and Gold Rugby

Podcast 272 – Sexy Tries

Podcast 272 – Sexy Tries

No last minute clashes like last week. Reg, Matt and Hugh are all back to chew the fat on a busy couple of weeks in Australian rugby with our latest edition of the Green and Gold Rugby Show.

The Five Burning Questions –

1. Does the win over Argentina give us any pointers on how we’ll go with South Africa?
2. Is Lukhan Tui a good option to play 6?
3. Where should 2023 RWC be played – Ireland, South Africa or France?
4. Is Australia’s support of Fiji rugby a good thing in light of the Force decision?
5. Should Stiles be cut as coach of the Reds?

  • david baldwin

    Another good podcast but I can’t agree with the comments about how our attack is going well.

    I concede that we have scored points against the kiwis but if you stop and think about it, not many of them come from our attacking shape and build up of pressure through that shape.

    In the first test, Beale pounces on a dropped ball and runs 60. Folau was arguably offside after it touched TKs leg, not to mention the pass was also arguably scored forward, yet that was a try. Then we scored two more off first phase attack to Rona and TK.

    None of the tries in the first game were because of our attacking structure/shape. Larkham is a very sharp first phase attack coach but in phase play we are beyond terrible.

    Fast forward to the second test and we start proceedings with a 60m intercept. Next a maul disintergrates and the kiwi forwards almost all stop playing, which gives hooper time to break a half hearted tackle and score. Genia then salvages the ball from a scrum that was absolutely destroyed and we get lucky again! Don’t get me wrong, the execution of skills to finish opportunities is very good, but these tries are not a reflection of an attacking structure/shape/system that builds consistent pressure and exploits weaknesses.

    Later on in the second test match we multiphase from inside our own half and Genia scores an absolute gem of a try. Interestingly you will notice that we don’t play to our structure to score that try, which is why I think the All Blacks were caught napping. Chieka coached teams do not have a running halfback and under larkhams attacking system, play a 1-3-3-1, so they generally play side to side with a back acting as the trigger option out the back of the forward pods. They almost never play shortside, yet in this attacking sequence, we did many times, we picked and went, which is unusual again for Chieka coached teams and then Genia took a brilliant opportunity. Again, don’t get me wrong, fantastic play but it is complelty incompaticble with the current structure.

    We have scored points, absolutely. To say that we score them easily and that our attacking system or attack in general is really working well and is better than the British Lions or whoever else, is wrong in my opinion.

    I have so many gripes with our attacking philosophy. It’s mindless and non-adaptive. For example, If you think about it logically, when you run that traditional pod system, as Australian teams do, with that arrow shape, there is really only one threat. The tip. Granted you get a clean out but the defence is already clued on so the cleanout advantage is negated cause they know what is coming – it’s not complicated. The argument that the trigger option is the way to overcome that is equally absurd.

    If you want to see an absolute masterclass in attack coaching, Watch how the all Blacks negated the lions rush defence with the nine getting out from the base of the ruck and hitting runners short in and around the ruck. Intelligent, effective, tactically brilliant!

    Ironically the Wallabies best attacking effort this year, in my opinion, came from similar play with the multiphase effort referred to above wherein Genia eventually scored the try. Sadly, I don’t think this effort was intentional and/or as well thought out as the all Blacks effort .

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      To be fair the Kiwis score a LOT of their tries through quick turnover ball and counter-attack.

      For far too long (I would say since at least 2005) we have been totally reliant on structured attack to score points and unable to counter-attack well—the two exceptions were 2010 and the 2013 EOYT.

      I have been no fan of Cheika’s coaching since the RWC, but the attack is good to see (although I see more Larkham and Byrnes in it).

  • Bakkies

    RWC games in the US are not in the Irish bid and the IRB have said they will not take bids that include games outside of the host union.

    The bidders are also unable to vote.

    There’s been a huge uproar over the French bid using Lomu’s children at the presentations in London.

    • RugbyReg

      I’m back on the Ireland bandwagon now then!


Die-hard Brumbies/Country Eagles fan now based in Sydney. Author, anthropologist, musician and second-rower trying to kick start a writing career in an increasingly bonkers world...

More in Podcast