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Podcast 289 – Un-Wallaby-like

Podcast 289 – Un-Wallaby-like

Is this what hope feels like?

The Green and Gold Rugby Show is back for another week, with Rugby Reg, Hugh and Matt examining the Wallabies’ fantastic performance over the weekend against Ireland, as well as looking ahead to a crucial clash in Melbourne.

The Five Burning Questions

1. Is this the strongest Wallabies performance since the World Cup?
2. Who stood out?
3. What do we expect from each team for the next game?
4. What caught your eye from the other games of the weekend?
5. Were there any other general rugby observations?

  • onlinesideline

    The comment made about how the Irish looked like how we played last 2 years was SPOT ON. It felt what it may feel like to be an AB supporter playing us in previous years, where we as you said had no plan B but more importanty were just that little bit behind the opposition in everything.Last week it felt like for once we dictated the speed of everything in both defense and attack but more so in defense. Our counter rucking was such a pleasant suprise.

  • Brumby Runner

    It seems likely to me that the improved backline defense and the changes to the attacking structures are the result of both Grey and Larkham having more time to look at the way Ireland play the game and to come up with a few innovations (like Folau playing first receiver) to give them opportunities.

    If I’m right, I’d like to think we might see a couple more new tricks in the second and third tests.

    From an Ireland perspective, I expect they will give more attention to nullifying Poey in the second test, probably with as many foul as well as fair means. Could perhaps see a yellow card or more for some of the attention I expect them to show.

  • The comment about about the illegal clear-out attempts on Pocock seem wrong to me. I’m not saying they’re all legal but I went looking for the ones described and they look legal if they’re legal in other ways.

    1. The players enter, in old terms, through the gate, between the pillars. So they’re onside and not entering from side. No penalty there.
    2. They’re making contact by wrapping their arm or arms rather than hitting with a shoulder or anything, so it’s not dangerous play. Equally they’re not neck rolling or similar. No offence here.
    3. They’re binding to a player (Pocock obviously), not unbinding and changing their position relative to him without doing anything dangerous. So they’re not doing anything odd like being offside in the ruck for not being bound that I can see, and it’s not catching the referee’s attention as doing the same. This could change if they’re careless with their feet and tread on someone on the floor of course.
    4. Then, still bound, albeit in a new position but one they seem to have reached legally, they’re pushing on the player in a non-dangerous, but unexpected, way.

    Point 3 would seem to be the really contentious one. The law stops you “swimming up the side of a maul” quite deliberately. But although that’s the language used when you unbind completely, whether in a ruck or a maul, and then rebind, you’ve been offside. However, if you are bound in continuously, hence going through the middle being safer, you’re not offside. In the examples I could find, the Irish players stay bound with one arm, change position, bind with the other and push. That’s clearly legal – they’re always bound by their own actions. If they’re bound by another Aussie it should be legal too I think.

    Because they don’t advance, if they do unbind the rebind to the same player, it’s possible they’re more likely to not get penalised – the ref isn’t really looking for it. They’re not (directly) interfering with the ball on the floor (in the sense of lying on it/not rolling away etc. nor of picking it up), they’re not interfering with the player in the #9 position, they’re not advancing through the ruck/maul to try and gain an advantage. It doesn’t ring any obvious alarm bells to the refereeing team and, as outlined above, it’s certainly possible to do it entirely legally. It’s not a scrum, you’re not obliged to only push and push straight which would be the main other thing you could complain about.

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