Podcast 29: The Extra Leg with Drew Mitchell - Green and Gold Rugby

Podcast 29: The Extra Leg with Drew Mitchell

Podcast 29: The Extra Leg with Drew Mitchell

Gagger, Lance Free and Mr Timms have a chat about what happened on the weekend, and decide it’s best to just look forward to this weekend when the Tri-Nations kicks off with Wallabies meeting South Africa. We also have a chat with Waratah and Wallaby wing Drew Mitchell.

Some topics we cover:

  • How is the foot coming along?
  • What is the difference between 11 and 14? (yes, Lance points out 3)
  • Who wants to defend at 10?
  • How has he changed as a player?

The theme song is ‘I still haven’t found what I’m looking for’ from U2, as we are hoping that’s what Robbie Deans is thinking.

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During the Podcast, Gagger refers to a chart. This is it:

  • runtmuncher

    Does Gagger sound like Robbie Buck from Triple J?

    • You know runtmuncher, that might be the nicest thing anyone has ever said Gagger sounds like.

      “Off air” Drew actually said he sounded like Harry Potter.

      • Swat

        Nail on the head, sticking with the JJJ theme I couldn’t believe you passed up playing Bluejuice – Broken Leg

      • Yeah, who put him up to that Timmsy?…

        • I told him to take the piss of the pommy bloke, he made up the Harry Potter bit himself…

  • Garry


    I disagree with your take on last weekends game. From the podcast, you credit the main reason for the loss being that our forwards didn’t front up. Yes, that happened. But I feel the main reason for the loss was poor tactical decisions on how to play out the test match.

    Viewing the teams on paper last week, it was obvious that these boys were not light weights, several kegs heavier per man, and unlike their teams of yesteryear, mostly fit, season professionals. It should have been obvious to all the decision makers at camp Wallaby that what was required was to play into the corners, and our resulting set piece, and as much as possible , keep moving their big men around, and where possible, up the tempo. The game plan was shown to them as recently as the Reds v Cru final witch the Reds using a range of different kicks to break up the Cru’s defensive patterns and unhinge their counter-rucking advantage. The same should have been achievable against Samoa. Highballs to turn the big men in the backs around, and at the same time getting our wing-men flyers underneath it for 50:50 situation. Our more mobile piggies would then have been in an advantageous situation. (This bears considering, because every team that we will play from now on will be hoping to win through our perceived ruck weaknesses.)

    It has always been a well known tactic that islanders don’t play well when they have to turn and run back. That hasn’t changed, and as I’ve said in the forum, Deans being from NZ, would have known about that.

    But instead our tactic seem to be to try to bust the Samoans up through the ruck, and our mid field. Talk about playing into their hands. Their big man love a contest like that. And they don’t have to run far, effectively conserving their energy. They can do that all day long. And at every opportunity, the Samoans slowed the tempo down, even resorting to leaving their drinks cart on the pitch. Smart.

    If this was a planned WB tactic, then Deans needs to front the blame. If it wasn’t, then Gits needs a kick up the arse at halftime by Deans, and the tactical situation amended. But that didn’t appear to change after the break.

    Or something more sinister? Perhaps Deans was hoping to force some injuries, or the retirement of some seasoned WB’s?

    • Lance Free

      Combination of factors Garry – all the above and more. But for me the glaring deficiency was a lack of forward authority at the breakdown.

      • Garry

        I feel that many sides will struggle to over come the Samoan forwards if they don’t run them around as well. NZ plays Fiji on Friday. Watching with interest.

      • RedsHappy

        …for the 16th (or some figure like that) time since 2007.

        Many of Garry’s points re the obvious pre-research that the Wallabies’ forwards coach(es) should have done on the Samoa’s capabilities and playing preferences are completely valid.

        I’m sorry, that display was, inter alia, an absolute indictment of the Wallabies’ forwards coaching preparedness, capability and execution via their players.

        To cover this obvious truth, the usual excuses factory will do its work, endless post hoc rationalisations will be trotted out, the supine rugby media will not dare to cross the ARU’s preferred lines for explanation, and the players will be principally blamed. That’s the Wallabies’ management culture today – no one is really accountable except the names on the team sheet. As Robbie said: ‘this was an awakening for the team’.

    • Nipper

      I agree with most of your points, Garry. There seemed to be a general (deliberate or inadvertent) arrogance about the game plan, captains decisions and players’ decisions.

      The game plan of trying to smash through the midfield would certainly be one. And that didn’t fuss the Samoans too much at all. Kicking in behind would’ve frustrated them a bit (provided you don’t drop a meatball into Tuilagi’s lap with tons of space and a rolling start!).

      The decision not to go for points on penalties in the first 1/4 of the match is another example. Gagger touched on this a bit, but test match wins are built on pressure. And you put pressure on your opponent by keeping the scoreboard ticking over at every opportunity. If you take away 9 pts from their infringements in their own half, perhaps you get them to be a little more wary of throwing everything into the breakdown in their own half, and things start to open up for you on attack. It just changes the complexion of the game. You don’t build pressure by taking the low percentage option (and failing) – that just played right into their hands of the Samoans and added more confidence to what they were doing. I doubt very much that they would have mad the same decisions if they were playing the All Blacks.

      And there also seemed like a little bit of unwarranted arrogance at the breakdown. Even late in the match, the Wallabies still weren’t always committing the required numbers at the breakdown. Higgers chip kick was a great athletic feat, but why was a loosie seagulling on the wing when they were getting demolished at the tackle contest? Players just weren’t getting there – how many times did you see a ruck with only Wallaby backs, and getting smashed?

      It just seems to me that the Wallabies thought that they could impose their will on the Samoans and play the game they wanted to play, regardless of the opponent and their strengths. And that clearly wasn’t working after about 15 minutes, but they carried on.

  • Larno

    A minor point: Johann Muller has been playing for Ulster all season, hence his lack of appearences in the Super XV!

  • Joel

    Seriously, there’s no difference between these podcasts and the 12th man series by Billy Birmingham. Gagger doing all the voices…

    “It’s fucken freezin’ in Brissie” – comedy gold.

    • bobas

      I don’t think Gaggar would get away with making fun of James Slipper’s weight.

      Fat jokes are the new racist.

      • bobas

        That being said I thought drew was going to say that the sydney swans wouldn’t let James go on the jumping castle because he wouldn’t take off his slippers.

    • Lance Free

      You’re confused Joel – that was me!

      • Joel

        “Tan okay?”

        “Brown as a berry Gaggs.”

  • Barbarian

    Can’t believe you didn’t ask Drew about his legendary scissor/paper/rock arse tat!

    • Yeah, Doh!

      No need for the sledging though Baabaa, you’ll be back! ;)

      • Swat

        I hear tattoos are supposed to tell stories. What story does the Roosters tell? He lost his anal virginity in a rock off to a bikie?

  • Pete

    In the nicest, nicest way possible, Lance needs to sort out his microphone technique, I’m not a big fan of hearing all that sniffing and snoring and slurping.

  • Alan

    Just got around to listening to this now. Great work as ever and Drew was a top guest

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Steve Timms, He likes watching the odd game of Rugby, occasionally writes about it.. Proud member of the original Mudchooks.

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