Podcast 314 - Omnishambles (2019 Rugby World Cup Week Two) - Green and Gold Rugby

Podcast 314 – Omnishambles (2019 Rugby World Cup Week Two)

Podcast 314 – Omnishambles (2019 Rugby World Cup Week Two)

It was a heartbreaker as the Wallabies went down to Wales, and Matt, Hugh and Pfitzy had plenty to cover as they sat down to review week two of the 2019 Rugby World Cup, covering the Wallabies loss, selection headaches, and the many upsets that have already occurred.

Warning – occasional coarse language

Rugby World Cup Week Two Agenda:

1. What single word summarises that match?
2. Best on park
3. Which calls did the refs actually get wrong?
4. What selection lessons did we learn?
5. Who had the better win: Uruguay or Japan?

  • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

    We’re good enough to win the World Cup? Surely that is a joke. 0/3 to England at home, another 3 losses to them abroad, 1/2 to Ireland, domination by Scotland, 0-36 vs New Zealand, dominated by the Springboks B, least successful year in about 60 years.

    I think we massively over performed against Wales. Testament to how good some of our players, despite the self sabotage from some of the guys we picked, and even Cheika’s woeful coaching.

    • Hugh Cavill

      We have the natural talent to win the World Cup, yes. If we can extend our 20 minute stints to 80 minutes, we can beat anyone – Perth proved it.

      Now it seems that we just can’t do that consistently. But we’ve shown we CAN do it, when it all comes together. So yes, we’re good enough.

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        Fair enough, if that’s how you define it. I agree. However, every tier 1 team has the natural talent to win the World Cup, but if we were selecting a combined 15, would we have more players than any of the home nations (other than Scotland), South Africa or New Zealand?

        If any teams plays the perfect match (as we did in Perth), the team can win the match. But we’ve shown nothing since 2015 that indicates we can win 3+ hard games in a row.

        • Hugh Cavill

          Agreed, and I put that down to coaching as much as anything else. I also think this particular iteration of the Cheika Wallabies might be the best on paper XV we’ve fielded.

          Yes we’ve got a glaring hole at 10, but our pack is settled, experienced and dominant at set piece thus far. Our centres have genuine class, and we can score points.

          He’s got the raw materials to build a World Cup winning side, in my opinion. But for whatever reason he’s unable to do it.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I have some concerns around the scrum and especially maul with Latu. He is class around the field, but he doesn’t control the ball at the back of the maul, and the scrum gets stronger when Uelese is Faingaa comes on.

          I think the answer at 10 is just to pick Toomua or Lilo and play entirely off Nic White at 9. Genia seems a tad past it.

          Agree we have the raw talent though. Just needs to be better coached, which is the story of the last four years.

        • Andy

          Can’t agree on this. I think England and NZ definitely have a stronger group of players to select from. And that is probably the metric I would follow.

          But I do agree that we are a better team than the results show. Coaching and selections have limited us significantly over the last few years. On paper and at our best we should have beaten that Wales team. But I feel like we have been saying that for the last 3 years….,.

          Clearly Cheika doesn’t know how to get the best out of this group on a consistent basis.

      • Richard Patterson

        Full credit for the win in Perth Hugh but isn’t some context needed here? Half the match was played against a 14 man opposition. Wouldn’t anything less than a comfortable win be alarming?

        • Hugh Cavill

          True, but the first half was outstanding against fifteen, and in the past the ABs have actually lifted with a man off the field.

          Context is obviously important, but it was still a historic victory whichever way you slice it.

        • juswal

          That just shows how careful you have to be, Hugh. You hurt a New Zealander’s feelings without even mentioning New Zealand.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Mate you only won in Perth because the ABs were so far off their game. This teams needs not only their players to step up but also the opposition to play poorly. Perth showed it can happen, Auckland showed you can’t rely on it.

        • Hugh Cavill

          Ahhh yes, the classic Kiwi refrain: ‘you can never beat us, we can only beat ourselves’. When the ABs win it’s because of their superior ability and general aura, but when the Wallabies win it’s because ‘the ABs were so far off their game’.

  • Mart

    Pfitzy, funny how when you play a fullback at fullback they go well! good point. :)

  • BigNickHartman

    Speaking of selections, big fan of Pfitzy replacing Matt as second colour commentator

    • Bobas

      still just 3 shades of sky blue without Reginald

      • BigNickHartman

        i only see a perfect and cultured podcast

        • Pfitzy

          First time I’ve ever been involved in that!

      • Pfitzy

        Bloody NSW plot! What we need are more QLDers like Knuckles, whose RWC glory cannot be overstated ;)


Die-hard Brumbies/Country Eagles fan now based in Sydney. Author, anthropologist, musician, second rower. Still trying to make sense of the 21st century. Dropped a debut novel last year...

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