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Waratahs soar in State of Origin sneak peek

Waratahs soar in State of Origin sneak peek

Queenslanders will never forget their eight-in-a-row era of State of Origin dominance but the New South Wales Waratahs have just eclipsed it with a streak of their own, securing their ninth win in a row over the Queensland Reds.

The 52-41 win at the old rivals’ Suncorp Stadium proved a shoot-out for the ages as a 15-try scoring bonanza snapped the Australian conference record for most-points scored in a game.

Four tries in a row, two either side of the half-time break, proved enough for the Waratahs to accelerate clear of a Queensland side who never backed away from the challenge.

Rugby, the 14,452 fans present at Suncorp Stadium and ultimately the Wallabies proved the greatest winners as both sides showcased attacking flair that will encourage coach Michael Cheika greatly ahead of camp this weekend.

Reds flanker Caleb Timu and Waratahs Bernard Foley and Israel Folau shone with every involvement.

In-form winger Taqele Naiyaravoro was forced off the field through injury in the 34th minute.

Izaia Perese beats Curtis Rona to score

Izaia Perese beats Curtis Rona to score

Queensland converted a New South Wales opportunity into points of their own as skipper Scott Higginbotham collected an intercept and found speedster Perese on his outside for a clean run to the line.

In what would become a common sight throughout the night, the Waratahs hit back quickly as Naiyaravoro drew two before popping an offload for centre Curtis Rona, sweeping around to the blindside for a corner finish.

Higginbotham added another try to his tally in the 13th minute from close range, only for his opposite Michael Wells to return the favour just five minutes later.

Foley’s perfect kicking performance kept the ‘Tahs ahead by a nose, 14-12.

Bernard Foley converts

Bernard Foley converts

Some good fortune fell the Reds’ way as a forward pass from hooker Damian Fitzpatrick spoiled a belter effort from Cam Clark through the middle.

Naiyaravoro made amends with a solo effort to continue his red-hot streak against Australian opposition, striding out of three would-be tacklers to find the chalk on the left wing.

Israel Folau reclaimed the hearts inside the stadium he thrilled with the Brisbane Broncos and Queensland Maroons upon half-time, soaring high above Jayden Ngamanu to collect a cross-field kick to score.

Israel Folau dives over for a try

Israel Folau dives over for a try

Nick Phipps pounced upon a blindside overlap for the Waratahs to christen the second half, before a yellow-card to lock Kane Douglas for team discipline issues helped nudge open the floodgates further.

Folau was soon in for his second, carrying a kind bounce all the way home for to secure an intimidating 19-40 lead.

Queensland needed a try to rally around and Wallaby replacement Caleb Timu stamped his mark on the match with venom.

Hooker Alex Mafi rumbled over to stem the bleeding in the 54th minute while Timu slammed the door shut with a ferocious hand-off on Nick Phipps to bring the Reds back within 11.

Caleb Timu crunches Nick Phipps to score

Caleb Timu crunches Nick Phipps to score

The Waratahs’ clinically finished an overlap on the right wing to partially quieten the crowd, crossing through substitute scrumhalf Jake Gordon and snatching a 47-29 lead with 15 minutes remaining.

Folau put away Cameron Clark for a well-deserved try four minutes later to seal the win, while the Queensland Reds scored two final tries in consolation to Jordan Petaia and Sef Fa’agase.

  • Nutta

    A properly entertaining game of rugby. Plenty went wrong on both sides but there was great skill, a real have-a-go attitude and some real commitment shown in that game. That game even made an impression on my wife and she turned off Aussie rugby years ago.

    General thoughts:
    > Jed Holloway is a seriously & underrated good footballer even out of position.
    > Michael Wells played the best game I’ve seen him play
    > Foley picked a cracker of a night to remind everyone who is the best goal kicker in Oz, especially after Hodges shotguns of last night.
    > Tupou will be a seriously good footballer. His strength is clearly immense. But he’s attracting penalties for silly stuff atm.
    > George Smith is still better in the breakdown then Hooper.
    > Kane Douglas is playing seriously good footy as is Caleb Timu.
    > Israel Folau and high balls of any sort – what do you say?

    • Adrian

      Giraffe to last question

      • Nutta

        An athlete to be sure.

    • Pedro

      I’ve always rated Holloway and Wells. They’re complete footballers but it seems to work against Holloway with regards to selection. If he can play lock though, he’s surely not the sea gull he’s described as at times. I hope he gets a chance at the highest level, he’s a great talent and six/locks are what we’ve needed since fardy fell out of favor.

      • Nutta

        Ive always been a bit cool on Wells. Maybe he just needed some footy maturity. Either way it was the best I’ve seen him play.

        Holloway has been too loose but wearing 4/5 may be just the thing to make him come in tighter. That said, we have a clutch of good locks atm so here’s hoping we can find somewhere he’s comfortable or else he will be yet another lost to The Black Watch and The Wall.

        Speaking of depth – am I feeding the chickens or do we really have 3 Test class Tightheads atm (Kepu, 7A’s and Tupou)?

    • idiot savant

      I think moving Holloway to lock will be great for him. He has always gone in and out of games but this will give him some time where has to stay in the engine room and keep contesting. It should build his engine for moving back to 6/8.

      • MalachyBernard

        Surely with Holloway at lock that puts to rest any return of Simmons? I don’t know why Chek keeps going to Rob – I just don’t see the impact in ball running. Also where is Jack Dempsey these days?

        • Hoss

          Sill injured and on recovery trail

        • McWarren

          I thoughts Simmons had bloody good game last night. And is hitting good form. He suffers immensely in public opinion because he is not as noticeable as others, but he is more effective. In saying that I’d pick Holloway over him at test level. Holloway looks like the type who can play 80 games on the side of a Wallaby pack.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Holloway played well. I thought he out played Roda last night

  • Moose

    Thanks for the writeup Nic. Great game. Hope Foley can keep up the goal kicking next week and beyond, might just make the difference vs Paddies.

  • Steve

    De fence, it’s that thin plastic thing the French put up between their property boundaries right….
    Oh wait…
    The Irish might not recognise it as a boundary….

    Tupou had a blinder, watched him walk over the waratahs props and at stage he stopped a 3 man split off maul on his own. Must start next weekend!

    Hope Foley’s kicking and Folau’s catching are as good next weekend. We’ll need it!

    • Nutta

      de Fence… it has sooo many possibilities especially when linked to the Irish around Brexit, WW I&II, The North etc etc

      I’m sort of sorry we didn’t go further with this thread. Too late now though.

  • Keith Butler

    Defence. De man wid de nails is coming round tomorrow. Leaked like a sieve on both sides. Not a good sign and I would be worried.

  • Brisneyland Local

    Morning GAGR’s. What a very entertaining game. I really thought the Tarts were going to run away with it, but the Reds stayed in it. A lot of good, but also a lot of concerns especially for some of the Wallabies players going into the Tests. BL’s random thoughts whilst shaving:
    – I think the fans will be happy with that. It was entertaining rugby. Even as a Reds fan on the end of a loss, it is one of the first local derbies that I enjoyed watching this year.
    – The attack from both teams was just enjoyable to watch. Even electric at times.
    – Folau is a high ball god. What can you say? He still struggles to defend and cant kick for shit. But in attack he is outstanding.
    – Defence for both teams was alarmingly bad! Both Thorn and Gibson would have been ripping their hair out at times.
    – Foley was excellent with his distribution and goal kicking. But again his tactical kicking was appalling. A defensive kick from inside the Tarts goal line barely made it 15 metres. If he does that against the Irish, we will concede 7 points everytime.
    – Beale looked out of sorts. Lots of crabbing sideways, and twice kicking the ball out on the full at this level is inexcuseable.
    – Thor looked great.
    – Great tries from both teams. I am sure Gibson would have been pissed when the reds had a player in the bin, and they leaked tries.
    – The Reds had some shocking lapses of concentration. Particualrly in Defence. But gee their offloads looked good.
    – Saw the Wallabies coaching set up there watching. They would have been both very happy and very alarmed by what they saw.
    – Izaiah Perese is fucking awesome.
    – Simmons is great in the line out. Fantastic. But cant run the ball forward for shit.
    – Hamish Stewart had a shocker with the boot. What he missed last night was greater than the margin of victory,
    – Kerevi looked really good. Playing 13 and defended well.
    – If the Reds keep this up and keep developing they can really be something next year.
    – Watching Phipps get steamrolled by Timu was hilarious.
    – A final point, Phil Kearns is a fucking disgraceful commentator. If I ever have to listen to his dribble again it will be too soon.
    Overall a loss to my Reds, but an enjoyable spectator event. Over to you GAGR’s

    • Keith Butler

      Phil Kearns biased towards the Tah’s not in a million years. He should just STFU.

      • Brisneyland Local

        What got me was, Foley had just fucked up, and he was blathering on about Foley being the best 10 Australia has ever produced! Just utter dribble

        • Ed

          Really? He would be the best flyhalf NSW has had in the professional era.
          Bernard kicked well at the posts but not out of hand. He made two tackles and missed three.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yes of this era but best ever? I would certainly rank Mark Ella and Michael Lynagh way ahead of him as players!

        • Ed

          Agree. Also, don’t forget the Wallabies attack coach too.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yep, he was a bit of a dab hand!

        • Nutta

          Barnes, Larkham, Flatley…

          Look, I like Foley as a player. I really do. But Ella, Larkham, Lynagh, Barnes and Flatley were all better. About the only one I would rate him over since the 80’s would be Knox and even then I don’t think he out-did Knox for creativity.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Very true Nutta!

        • Andy

          He’s not in the conversation but he is a better player than a lot of people give out. I suspect the fact he is a Waratah goes against him to an extent due the general hate of the club throughout the Aus landscape. But his weaknesses are known and yes, frustrating. But he isn’t without his streangths and he’s generally very good at them.

          His kicking last night, I thought was better than it has been recently. Not really his territory game. That is always pretty poo but his kick offs and spot kicking to Folau have improved out of sight this year. That’s a good bonus for the Wallabies to have as we have never really tapped into that resource. The way he grabs the ball in the air he should be scoring at least a try a game from that mode.

        • 22DropOut

          People just like pretending that Foley and Cheika are clowns for whatever reason.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Concur. But Cheika allows him and in fact continues to play that weakness. I would not let Foley kick tactically. Beale (well not last night) Hodge, DHP can all kick better!

    • Brumby Runner

      BLL, Kerevi’s one on one tackling was fine, as it has been lately, but there was no direction in the defensive line which then allowed the Tahs’ backline to run at will. I’m afraid he hasn’t yet come to terms with the 13 spot defensively, but would be the best option at 12 for the Wallabies at the moment.

      • Brisneyland Local

        BR, I agree. I would rather see him at 12 then 13. Particularly at the Reds, Hunt ran the back line.
        See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzqaSBc8r6A
        He is not a back line general. He is improving at 13, but that is where Cheikmeister will play him. I think he should be the 12.

    • idiot savant

      Yes I enjoyed Phil’s wonderfully impartial commentary. He said that Gardiner was hard on the Tahs. Funny, I recall a curious passage in the game leading up to the YC where Gardiner penalised Stewart for not rolling away (when he had been kept in there by Tah legs and milked by Phipps), Tupou for no arms when I clearly saw his left arm making contact at the same time in what was a soft penalty at best, and Higgers swimming up the side (fair cop). Then he warned the Reds when all 3 penalties had been in centre field and none of them prevented the Tahs from using the ball. Is he going to YC very side who gives away 3 penalties in a row in centre field from now on? Kane was a brain fart sure and deserved a penalty but a YC? Add that to 3 consecutive throw to the Tahs side of the line out thats Gardiner being hard on the Tahs Phil? Fox provides such quality commentary.

      • Brisneyland Local

        IS, yep! That pretty much sums up my thoughts.

  • Brisneyland Local

    You see Adrian, that is the thing that worries me. If they use a defence system similar to the Waratahs, we are screwed. The Reds ran in 7 odd tries. The team with what is regarded as the worst attack in AUS SR, can bang that many down over the line, demonstrates that the NSW defence is pretty poor.

    • Ed

      I am with BL on this Adrian. You do acknowledge the issues we could have with defence. The Tahs have leaked an average four tries a match against overseas opposition this year.
      But now we focus on the Ireland series where our players will face different tactics and strategies to what they are used to in SR. Do we have the rugby smarts in the coaching box and with the on-field leadership to counteract that? Or is it we play our way where we just work harder?

      • Brisneyland Local

        Here here!

  • Greg

    Thanks Nic. I enjoyed the game and the write-up.

    The attack by both sides was great. Folau’s aerial skills were outstanding.

    Where was the defense? it was like touch footy out there. If we can’t defend we can’t beat the paddies.

  • Hoss

    My fellow Australians,

    Cracker of a game and with the Frebels also beating the New Zealand Sunwolves there will be some serious mojo in the Gold Camp this week.

    With SAMU shafted by the NZRU, I agree with Professor Nutta about Holloway & wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t get Samu’s gig instead. Injury cost him a northern tour in 2016 and it’s taken a while, but he’s back in a big way. Abrasive, loves the contact, big, good engine, skilful and a long-term 8 for mine.

    Wells reinforced he was unlucky to miss the wider gold squad, nayavoro as well. Actually, Matt Phillips also had a storming game in NZ as well and can consider himself unlucky as well – I actually rate him over Coleman.

    All the Wally potentials turned it on and a great advertisement for Oz Ball.

    The defence, I wouldn’t read too much into it, I am more excited about the attack and credit where it’s due, ‘Spanners’ really turned it on last night.

    I’ve been saying for a month we will win 3-0 against those Limey limerick lovers, I am even more confident
    now.

    • Nutta

      Professor? WTF? Maybe of bullshit and crytopography…

      • onlinesideline

        you have any EOS nutta ?

        • Nutta

          You’ve got me there… so clearly I don’t if I don’t even know what it means!

        • Nutta

          Oh you mean the cryptocurrency EOS! Nah, that’s beyond the means of this married, 3 little kids and a mortgage, surburbanite white slob. Too many suckers on my wallet for that sort of blood to be spilt.

          Isn’t Google marvellous?

        • onlinesideline

          yeah – the crypto that just raised 1.5 billion and hasnt buillt a thing.

        • Nutta

          Yeh the crazy times bit has me beat:
          > A society who just about sets popular-culture of the western world where it is more important to make sure guns get sold retail then it is to stop kids getting whacked in school
          > Crypto-currencies worth more than a Dot.Com ever was
          > 6 Foreign governments that I can count who don’t even bother with even a masquerade of legitimacy any more (I mean at least the Soviets PRETENDED)
          > A domestic government that seriously still believes in the ongoing viability of coal in the long term
          > State governments that PROMOTE gambling and grog consumption but have a problem with medical weed oil?
          > There’s about 8 wars atm all over water. Fkn WATER?!?
          > 10yrs on from a world economic crisis generated by fringe-lending based on derivative trading of loans DESIGNED to fail and it is STILL legal to do it?
          > Federal level governments and their agencies still arguing over whether it’s necessary to have a national level ICACC
          > Well into the Royal Comm into Banking and FKN NO-ONE has been indicted?
          > And then last week we get Kim Kardashian in an Oval-Office pic with PRESIDENT fkn Donald Trump?

          Yeh, I’m done. We aren’t alone in the universe. But with idiocy on this level being displayed the Aliens aren’t keen on stopping by… Can you imagine their conversations? “Hey, have you SEEN those nut-jobs over in Sector 246? Nah mate. We aren’t gunna touch those fkn weirdo’s.”

        • onlinesideline

          big mix of conservative AND liberal points there Nutta. The crypto thing is going through the same stage that all new tech goes through which is exuberence, govts chasing after it with new laws etc. It will be followed by a crash and cleanout, bottom out and then find middle path, done within new laws. But ultimately ICOs have democratised fund raising and is the biggest revolution in debt and equity in the last 1000 years. Its a massive change which will smash the elites hold on who get first divs, which is awesome.

          Re WATER – the Israelis have just announced a massive breathrough on converting salt water to drinkable water a few days ago. Again tech is reshaping everything in society including wars. If you add in this new tech discovery by the Israelis, so many wars over water avoided, so many lives bettered.

          6 govts ? – try 60 !

          But the unelected globalist institutions like the UN cartel of dictatorships, the EU, the ICC – these really are dangerous.

          Big topics you raised mate

        • Nutta

          It’s why I love rugby. A long time ago I once played a game for a mob called the Instanbul Ottoman’s (I hear they a pro club now – really weren’t then!). We played a side from Greece. There were Papists, Proddo’s, Ortho’s, Ackbars from both mobs (Shite and Sunny’s) and I don’t know who else was praying to whom. We played, we bled, we drank, we insulted, we sang and then went home and no-one had to get shot, stabbed or blown up… Life isn’t that hard.

    • Gun

      Good one Hoss. Leaving Samu in Mordor might increase the hate anyway.

    • idiot savant

      The defence issues were a result of the style that both sides played. That was the fastest game I’ve seen this season. The Tahs clearly chose to play the game as fast as they could knowing the big Reds pack would struggle. The Reds for the first time this season also played fast. When two sides are hell bent on throwing the ball around and running flat out a lot of tries get scored.

      • Adrian

        Spot on idiot

        • Hoss

          only on this site would ‘spot on idiot’ be taken as a compliment. Love it.

      • Andy

        Was good watching that’s for sure

    • Fatflanker

      It was the most entertaining derby game of the season for mine – not much between the the teams really – a better night with the boot for Qld would have made things very interesting. Tahs scrum held up reasonably well – not sure if that’s a good or bad omen for the Ireland game. Most all the key men played well and no injuries, (now watch three of them go down in training this week).

      The bad omen continues to be Foley’s clearance kicking. Every time he barely clears the 22, I just wince, with the words of Mrs Fatflanker on my wedding night ringing in my ears, “Is that it??!”.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Pure gold FF!

    • Brumby Runner

      Reds just need to tighten up their backline defense and they’ll give more games a shake. They were often outnumbered and slow to come forward, especially on their left hand side. Allowed the Tahs a mile of room to get their runners going.

    • idiot savant

      Its Wells for Samu for me. Huge workrate, rugby smarts, and real line out target. He will stay in the game for longer than Jed at this stage.

      • Hoss

        I can live with that mate – he was unlucky not to be there in the first place especially when Hannigan is ??

        Wells hasn’t done too much wrong this year

    • onlinesideline

      Im still out on Coleman too. Bit like Horwill, great in first year but that was his best year. Not sure if thats really the case, undecided.

      Tell ya what – I agree re Nayavorro – hes a hard man to bring down and seems to bump humans off at will. Pretty damn unlucky not be in wallas TBH – as a super sub. Hes a point scorer and I can see him backing himself against anyone even on the biggest stage. Kind of a big shame we aint going to see it. Is an overseas contract really justification for ommitting him / others I wonder. Does it work ?

      I have gained a lot of respect for Gibson this year. He was a dead man walking a while back, Lets be honest, this Tahs team, while not Super rugby dominators, is likeable at present, more likeable than even in the Cheika era.

      • Hoss

        Afternoon mate. Yeah Princess Leah has not performed this year, although he was good at Eden Park, but outplayed by Phillips. Don’t get me wrong I hope he regains his mongrel and I reckon he will amongst a confident Wallabies Squad, after all winning is infectious.

        Heres my 23 based on weekend games and assuming Hercules is out.

        1. Sio
        2. Mc Latu
        3 Methuselah
        4. Princess Leah
        5. Powder Puff
        6. Mr Pocock
        7. Energiser bunny
        8. Timu
        9. Sideshow bob
        10 Spanners
        11 Maddocks
        12 KB
        13 Rona
        14 DHP
        15 Dusty
        16. 7A’a
        17 BPA
        18 Thor
        19 Rodzilla
        20 Tui
        21 Holloway
        22 Bovine Sprinkler
        23 Hodge

        For me though, I would start Thor over Methuselah – not on form, but leave some old heads to bring home the last 30 when its there for the taking, plus to partner a raw hooker

        • Keith Butler

          Coleman just proves the case that blokes cannot multi task. Do I whack this bloke who’s offside or do I talk to the ref. Bovine Sprinkler love it. Had to think about it for a few secs due to too many glasses of sparkling Tassie Pinot Noir to celebrate anniversary and 65th birthday. Free at last, free at last.

        • Hoss

          Doing in tough in Van Demons Land mate. Happy Birthaversary

        • Keith Butler

          Cheers Hoss. The vino has worn off. Time to move on the the homemade blueberry Schnaaps. Doing it tough indeed.

        • Hoss

          Blueberry schnaaps……. – if you quote Martin Luther on Vino, I eagerly await some pearls on the Schnaaps

        • Keith Butler

          Somehow appropriate. “When I was younger I made it a rule never to take strong drink before lunch. It is now my rule never to do so before breakfast”. Courtesy of Winston Churchill.

  • 22DropOut

    I hope that Australian players learn how to defend before Saturday.

  • 22DropOut

    “I’m confident we (Wallabies) have the attacking backs and forward grunt to beat Ireland.”

    Which of our backs would get a run out ahead of
    Murray, Sexton, Henshaw, Ringroe, Earls, Stockdale, Kearney?

    Folau is about it.

    • Fatflanker

      Perhaps, but I think you have to be careful not to conflate individual skills/abilitiy with superior coaching/drilling. A great coach makes the collective more than the sum of its parts and Ireland has a bloody good coach. Sexton walks into any international team in my books, (KRL may beg to differ here), with Murray not far behind him. The others I’d want to see in a Wallaby back-line, playing under the Australian regime before making direct comparisons, (and v.v. of course).

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        No Sexton is a brilliant player and I think better in all round play than Barrett. No complaints on that one

        • Ed

          My opinion of Sexton went up a notch after he played the final Lions test with a ruptured ankle tendon and a broken wrist. No hiding him in defence.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Absolutely mate

    • Adrian

      Yes 22, 1:1 they probably aren’t as good, though not everyone.

      You see, we don’t all agree here re Beale. IMO, and the opinion of many, he is the best player at unlocking a tight defence in the world.

      Its about tactics.

      • onlinesideline

        they’re more than good 1:1 Adrian. They are going to burn the Irish for pace. (if we can get them the ball on the front foot)

        • Adrian

          Yes, agree online.

          I’m really looking forward to it, and us going for broke with fast backs running different angles, and Folau out leaping them.

          I reckon we have forwards now to keep us on the front foot

        • Hoss

          Mate – you need to get back home so we can have a drink – liking the cut of your jib. I am of the same opinion, Oz will start favourites, the paddies will need to have a game to bet us.

    • onlinesideline

      eh, which side are you on here ? – I sense a CryptoPaddy

      • 22DropOut

        Perhaps I would fit in better if I just say that we should win because we are Australia. Cheika is an idiot. Foley is rubbish. Cooper is a joker. etc etc.

        • onlinesideline

          hmmmmm – based on that mildy odd response my inner Clouseau has been somewhat activated (said in my best Clouseau accent)

        • 22DropOut

          Funny because “odd response” is the exact phrase that sprung to my mind with your responses.

        • onlinesideline

          hmmmmm – looks around the room (cue music)

        • 22DropOut

          Weird.

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Mate Kerevi at 12 with Rona at 13. Beale was crap. He ran more meters sideways than forward and his defence was non existent. Kerevi will straighten the line and make more breaks for Rona or Folau (if he gets off his arse and joins in) than Beale would ever make. Defensively he’s no worse than Beale so nothing lost there

    • idiot savant

      Beale runs in every direction and was very important to the Tahs attack. He often sits back in the pocket and directs second line plays with crisp passing and second touch play. He is a critical second playmaker in the Tahs run from depth style that is scoring tries against all comers including kiwis. The kiwi dont play this style. I have only seen the Lions do this. It shows what an exciting watchable game rugby can be.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Yeah he does and I’d like to see him do it from 15 as he’d get the space he thrives on there. As Nutta said at 12 he’s cramping his 13 and wings with his sideways running

        • Brendan Hume

          Reds would love someone with his creativity at 15…

    • Nutta

      Leaving aside other stuff, my continuing issue with Beale as a Wobbly is his immediate skip-out to the outside on getting the ball in midfield. He’s suffering from the 2010-11 Giteau Syndrome of crabbing-out his outside men. It must be bloody maddening to play outside the guy if you’re a power runner (like K-Train or BigT) because he just takes space away from your line. Everyone knows he does it. Defences barely bothering covering his inside anymore unless there is a runner clearly there and if anyone thinks for one moment that the Irish centres and sweeping D backrowers haven’t got that one bookmarked away then they are dreaming.

    • juswal

      So you’ve taken a break from bashing Foley and you’re back to bashing Beale. You did it non-stop last year, dozens of posts saying the same thing.

      Take it to a NZ forum. Leave us to talk about our players.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Nope I think Beale is a better outside back not a 12. He didn’t play well yesterday and it’s because he needs room to play well that he didn’t get yesterday at 12. I actually would play him at 15 before I’d play him at 12 and with Folau on the right wing because he can only pass well to the left. Don’t really care if you don’t like it

      • Greg

        There are not many more perceptive commenters here than KRL. I hope he doesn’t head to a NZ forum.

        In think in his heart he might be starting to be a wallaby supporter!

        • Hoss

          If bashing Spanners was a crime i would be given consecutive life sentences – its almost a reflex

        • Nutta

          I feel almost coy about asking given my commitment to only discuss him in-light of rugby matters only, but I have to ask; why ‘Spanners’?

        • Hoss

          Although a seasoned Tah’s & Wallabies fan – used to rugby atrocities. Every time he touches the ball, my nuts tighten in anticipation of glory or complete fuck-up – hence ‘Spanners’

        • Nutta

          Please forgive the lack of Royalties forthwith as I’m shamelessly plagiarising this.

    • Andy

      He didn’t have his best game KRL. But he generall creates for the outside guys better than any other guy in oz rugby.

      To be honest, he’s a fullback playing inside because we don’t have an inside who can do both of a) distribute and b) impact the gain line.

      I actually think he is the best utility player going around. If your team had no positional weaknesses he is the the perfect bench player. A bit like Hooper.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Yeah and I’d bench him mate. I think the 12 needs impact more than distribution

  • idiot savant

    My thoughts in two posts. First the Tahs. The Tahs are playing a brilliant style of rugby. This combination of Gibson and Cron must now surely be in the frame to replace the Cheika regime when he steps down. It took them a long while to get the players to come with them but the players seem now finally to have let go of their Cheika worshipping and believe in the new style. Its interesting to see Foley now talk about sharing playmaking duties and playing in wider channels when he has resisted that in the past.

    For me it all began after the first half against the Jags this year. The Tahs were terrible in the first half, and looking like the disinterested entitled bunch that came second last in the Aust conference last year. Since then the Tahs have got better and better. Cron took hold of a lightweight pack and made a virtue out of it. They eschewed the grind for speed at the breakdown and offloading, stationed their loosies out wide in attack. Wells has been a brilliant cog in the new wheel. Quick ball movement is the dominant theme.

    The backs work in brilliantly with this and I love how deep they stand and how they sprint from depth. There has been a lot of talk about errors but with the style they are playing and the pace they are running of course there will be errors. Last night their confidence in the their game plan was exceptional and they were relentless. For about 40 minutes in the middle of the game I thought they would score every time they had the ball. Foley’s kicking for Folau at kick offs and general play was sublime.

    It will be interesting to see how the players adjust going back to Cheika’s style. Lets hope they can come back after the Irish series and pick it up again because if the Tahs play with this flair and confidence they could win the thing.

    • Adrian

      Good analysis idiot.

      There are a lot of similarities in backline attack between Tahs and Cheika Wallabies, so I’m not worried there.

      Both teams also use a similar backline defence, which is a simplified version of the musical chairs Grey tried to use a year ago, but which ceased starting with Bled 2

      Re the forwards, the available brutes we have now, including Tuopo, Timu, Coleman, BPA, mean that we can also attack ala 2014 Tahs, with the backline feeding off the half breaks as the defence back pedals. Cheika knows this strategy too

    • Hoss

      Yep mate – the Tah’s attack is a thing of beauty this year driven by two ball players and KB has been electric and freeing up room, time and space for the OB’s – I am getting misty just typing this.

  • idiot savant

    Now for the Reds. Sorovi. What a difference a half back makes. He gets to rucks with the forwards, he passes off the deck fast, he snipes, and he gets second touches. He was the single most important factor in the Reds discovering how to attack for the first tome this season.

    Super rugby is a brutal place where you get found out. Under pressure, Stewart’s kicking in general play was poor. its possibly a technique problem or tension, I dont know but that along with his kicking off the tee needs a lot of work. He clearly has no confidence in it. Otherwise not bad for second start. I love the way he gets second touches and keeps the ball alive.

    Tupou gave Robbo a bath (the Irish will have noted that) and the Reds pack marched the Tahs backwards but that was the only real dominance the Reds pack had. Gibson and Cron were too smart for BT and the game was played at too fast a pace for the Reds to be able dominate the breakdown. Once again the Reds line out throwers threw poorly at critical times.( I was amused to see Fitzpatrick throw 4 consecutive balls onto the Tahs side. He got penalised on the last one.)

    Higgers is a top player. I dont care what anyone says. But why didnt he cover Folau on kick offs after the first one? Why didnt the coaching box send a message down to get someone to contest that tactic as Foley kicked it to the same place every time?

    The Reds look like they can score points with quick ball from Sorovi and the two inside Scots, Hamish and Duncan. Duncan is a great little stepper in heavy traffic and yet again opened up the opposition. He is also a great offloader if only someone would follow him.

    While BT has made a big deal about defence the Reds are still not that good and really struggle when the ball goes wide fast. Their wingers are too small and not strong enough and their forwards are too big to get across in cover. George looked his age last night with the pace of the game.

    I hope BT perseveres with the Yam Islander and the two Scottish boys as the inside playmakers but I fear when CFS recovers it will be back to everyone keeping to their channels.

    • Adrian

      Exactly my thoughts idiot.
      I see Sorovi and Gordon as Australia’s long term 9 solution.
      I also see Duncan P as an appropriate 12 if Beale got an injury,…at least under tactics used by Cheika

  • Andy

    Great game to watch. My overall thoughts:

    Both teams have defensive issues. Difference is, the Waratahs already know this hence the style of play they have adopted this year. They’ve got a super light, mobile pack and a very competent backline. Its all attack.

    The reds though have pinned their game on strong D. They’ve shown that a few times this year. But last night it was very poor.

    Reds scrum looks the goods which is good for the Wabs as there should be a few reds in the pack.

    Tahs attack is sublime and Gibson should be given a lot of credit for that. They were poo last year.

    On the Tahs players:
    Foley had a great game.
    Fitzpatrick was very good again
    Folau. No words
    Holloway was terrific. Keep him at lock
    Rona needs to be the wab 13. He’s always looking to put the guy inside and outside through a whole but also is a threat himself. We have not had that combination at 13 in my memory.

    On the reds:
    All their forwards were good in tight play and around the breakdown especially T Thor, PFA, Rodda.
    Kerevi was good. He would look amazing in the tahs backline.
    Pauia was also pretty impressive. He looks like he has the feet and game smarts to be a good international 12

    • Hoss

      very astute

  • Greg

    Has anyone noticed… hardly any discussions on refs! Is that mainly because we have some wins?

    • Fatflanker

      Give it another week mate :-)

    • McWarren

      We’ve all been hit with long suspensions and heavy fines for bringing the game into disrepute.

  • Pedro
    • Nutta

      I think that deserves to stick. SirRobbi

  • Hoss

    Breaking news – Samu released by NZRU for Irish series – you bloody beauty. We will win this three test series 4-nil now.

    That’s how confident I am.

    • Bobas

      Poor brother, I’m 6 weeks after ACL surgery and partial menisectomy. That should be a year for a guy as young as him.

      • Brendan Hume

        seven months for me – good luck with it!

        • Nutta

          ACL, Posterior Cruciate, Lateral somethingorother, something else and a ripped up meniscus.

          I’ve got a synthetic ACL, bits of pig and my hammys mixed in to fix the rest.

          9mths. Christ it was hard.

  • McWarren

    That game proved to me 4 players who should be regulars in the Wallabies squad. Well, Holloway, Gordon and Higginbotham. Gone from the Wallaby squad are Hanigan, Phipps, Tui and probably Simmons.

  • McWarren

    What a great game. Apart from the result, and the try awarded to the Tahs when the ball was clearly dropped. Ah well, if we’d kicked all our goals it may have been a decision to rue.

    Good to see the Wallaby players hitting form. I hope Foley can keep up the kicking accuracy. I wonder if Ireland are as scared about Folau in the air as Queensland are. I suspect Sexton will put it so high he’ll twelve runners converging on a landing Izzy at the same time.

    • Hoss

      Macca, Macca, Macca – it was barely an opposed training run for my blues……take out Higgers offside intercept and the howler that saw a disallowed Clarke try from a ‘forward’ pass from Fitz and it would be about right – 80 something to 20, Very sporting of the Tah’s. No doubt at Cheiks request ‘ don’t grind them into the dirt Hoops, we need them up for the green slimes next week’ – fair play Hoops, fair play.

      • idiot savant

        Phil, its really you!

        • Hoss

          shhhhhh.

      • McWarren

        I’ve always admired the humble actions of the Tarts and their Farts. You’ll often see me on street corners waxing lyrical the great blues players of past and present and their exploits in the unnerving pursuit to help and too love the Reds. It was all on show on Saturday, thank you, thank you.

        • Hoss

          You’re welcome – nice to be appreciated for a change.

  • McWarren

    The only disappointing part of last nights game, result aside, was the Fox team commentary and after show drivel. Phil Kearns needs to only commentate on games not involving his Tahs. Horan has about as much to offer intellectual conversation as a gnat, and that includes the intricacies of centre play. Cheika’s cheer squad on the post game panel are almost vomit inducing.

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