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Reds Scalp The Chiefs

Reds Scalp The Chiefs

After the Brumbies good win over the Highlanders last night, the Reds needed a win in Hamilton against the Chiefs today to stay in touch with the Australian conference leaders; and they delivered a strong performance.

Reds v ChiefsThe Reds have had the better of the Chiefs in their last three matches dating back to 2010. Their match at Suncorp Stadium last year was a cracker with the Reds triumphing over the eventual 2012 champions 42-27. However the Chiefs came into this match in good form and only the Stormers had beaten them so far this year so not surprisingly the Reds were the underdogs.

On the back of Quade Cooper’s omission from the Wallabies logistics camp he had the chance today to show Robbie Deans what he’ll be missing out on if he continues to ignore him for the Lions tests. Cooper’s clash with Aaron Cruden was one of the talking points going into the match as was whether Anthony Faingaa could shut down Richard Kahui who has been in scintillating form for the Chiefs since his return from injury.

Chief’s coach Dave Rennie made the tactical decision this week to select his three most mobile backrowers in an effort to combat the Reds trio of Liam Gill, Jake Schatz and Ed Quirk who have been prominent at the breakdown this year.

The Match

It was all the Reds early on in the match with several good chances including James Horwill held up over the line in the first minute but it was Rod Davies who scored the first try after intercepting a Cruden pass before the Chiefs hit back midway through the half with a try to Bundee Aki. An attacking kick from Quade Cooper then pinned the Chiefs in their own 22 and when the Reds won a penalty they opted to take the lineout rather than the shot at goal. From that lineout several of the backs joined in and Schatz scored on the back of the driving maul for the Red’s second try.

The Reds had the better of play in the first half and dominated at the lineout but Greg Holmes was struggling at scrum time, giving away two penalties. The halftime score was 14-10 to the Reds.

The second half saw plenty of attack from both teams but again the Reds did a little more with their opportunities. Cooper scored a nice try after the Chiefs conceded a couple of penalties in their own half – his step back inside to break the line suggested that there is no longer any doubt about the knee he injured in 2011 and his conversion took the score out to 21-13. The Reds were then denied a try by Gareth Anscombe’s desperate work in cover after another intercept but not long after Davies crossed for his second after a wonderful pass from Will Genia. Cooper’s conversion made the score 28-13 and the Reds had already booked a bonus point.

Then the Chiefs started to come back at the Reds and the pressure started to tell with the Reds giving away multiple penalties and Anscombe kicking two more penalty goals. After Aki dropped the ball cold from a kickoff the Reds earned another penalty and Cooper was accurate with his kick to extend the lead back to 31-16 for the Reds. The Chiefs continued to throw everything they had at the Reds and after Anthony Faingaa was penalised and received a yellow card the Chiefs went in with the conversion narrowing the gap to just eight points, leaving it at 31-23 to the Reds.

The last fifteen minutes was action packed with both teams really stepping up the intensity and the Reds having to scramble in defence on a number of occasions to hold the Chiefs out. Cooper missed two penalty goal attempts in the last few minutes but the Reds did enough to hang on.

The Reds performance was their best of the season so far and certainly suggests they are going to be a genuine contender in this competition. With the bonus point secured they close the gap to the Brumbies to only two points ensuring that next week’s match between the two teams at Suncorp Stadium will be one of the matches of the season so far.


The Game Changer

Quade Cooper’s try for the Reds in the 47th minute came on the back of the decision by Horwill to press on for a try rather than take a chance at three points – it set the Reds on the path to victory.


Key Performances

It’s hard to not name the entire Reds team but Rod Davies scored two tries (although he made some defensive errors), James Horwill and James Hanson were both very strong in tight and Will Genia was again very good. The Reds backrow also put in a fantastic performance.


The G&GR MOTM

If Robbie Deans wanted to spark a response from Quade Cooper, it seems to have worked – that was Quade’s best performance in some time scoring 16 points including a nicely taken try. He directed the Reds well in attack and defended well.


The Details

Score & Scorers:


Reds


Chiefs



Score:
Tries:
Conversions:
Penalties:
Drop Goals:


31
Davies (2), Schatz, Cooper
Cooper – 4 from 4
Cooper – 1 from 3



23
Aki, Osborne
Anscombe – 2 from 2
Anscombe – 3 from 4

Cards:

Anthony Faingaa (Reds) – Yellow – 65th minute

Referee:

Steve Walsh (Australia)

  • The Chiefs were bloody good and lots of respect to them. The Reds just brought their A game and the match raised to a level of intensity not seen in Super Rugby this year. Great game by Quade too, not enough to shut the haters up, but that’s impossible anyway.

  • A real cracker, so many talking points. Paul O’Connell put in an inspired performance for Munster in the Heineken Cup last week and is tipped to jump straight into the Lions squad.. but jesus did James Horwill step up again tonight with some great play and leadership of his own. The potential matchups during the Lions test has me drooling with excitement

    Reds were deserved winners. Some of the scrambling defence was simply outstanding and QC again looked good paired with the ever reliable Genia (shocking to hear NZ commentators proclaim a non kiwi to be the best in the world!).

    Two brilliant wins by aussie sides over the kiwis, it doesn’t get much better then that!

    • Who?

      They did make sure they pointed out ‘the local boy’ in the post match interview with Horwill… Also couldn’t praise Cooper enough during the game, and expressed confusion at how one coach (Link) can get so much out of a player, while another can’t get the same results (Deans). And they speculated on how long before Link gets an international gig. It was gushing praise for Kiwi commentators talking about an Aussie team playing a Kiwi team.

    • Redsfan1

      Mate you were defending the Tahs in the Wallabies… Change of tune?

      • what are you on about!? i made no mention of the tahs at all

    • David

      Horwill was inspirational…given our loose forward stocks but lack of depth at lock HE is shaping as our most important player for the Lions alongside Genia ..his contributions show up every other lock in Australia and really illustrate the gap between him and no.2. Lets hope big Kev keeps going and going.

  • Dougall

    What a way for Cooper to show Deans he was wrong to keep him out of the ‘logistics’ squad, although a shaky start an overall brilliant game from Quade.

    Genia, Horwill, Quade and Gill all showed why they should all be starting come game 1, Genia especially, it’s sad to think how big the gap is between him and White.

    Taps and Faingaa were strong in D and on attack, yet that pass from Faingaa in the first 5 to Davies for a sure 5 pointer was a shocker. Rod did good but wouldn’t be my first choice wing with Morahan, F-Sautia and Digby in the ranks,

    Chiefs just couldn’t turn pressure into points, so many times I was actually confused as to how they stuffed up what seemed to be a guaranteed 5 pointer.

    • bill

      re White and Genia. I’d pick Genia everytime but not because White isn’t good. White is very skillful. They’re very different sorts of players with different strengths, Genia has the strength to use his speed.

      I was watching some french top 14 a few years ago and had to marvel at Yashvilli’s effect on games, when you see a skinny little guy controlling a game like rugby you have to broaden your view of the possible.

      • Dougall

        Exactly, but then again Genia White Phipps

        • bill

          True. Phipps was ordinary tonight. He needs to do better.

          I was watching White earlier in the season and he seemed to feel obliged to make a dart from the ruck every now and then, straight into the defence mind, which is fine, but the opportunity really wasn’t there, and he just doesn’t have the body for it.

          Maybe that’s from coaches saying he needs to add x,y,z to his game? Or he feels he has to offer it as part of his game…needs to make better choices though. Contrast that to Alby Mathewson’s masterclass of when to run against the Reds this year.

        • Genia White Phipps McKibbon

        • bill

          lol, think I’d rather have McKibbin than Phipps after last night though.

    • handles

      I was delighted with Rod Davies form. He hasn’t looked that good since 2011.

      • Dougall

        His defence was poor when it was needed, he was being bounced off players left, right and centre. His two tries were given too him, any of our wingers in his place could have done the job on both occasions.

        He was too small for International rugby, and now he is even looking too small for Super Rugby. With Digby, Shipperly, F-Sautia and Morahan looking for places I would gladly put them in his place.

        He had a good game on attack I guess, and had a big role in securing the win, but I don’t see starting him again as a good tactic when he have better options.

        • bill

          I’d disagree about that, but I thought Chris F’S was pretty good tonight as well, best involvement I’ve seen from him this year. Looked to running freer too.

      • bill

        Yeah, if he holds that form he’d be the first winger picked for the wallabies.

      • JimmyC

        Because he hasn’t played since then

        • bill

          mere details Jimmy, mere details.

      • Tomikin

        Im delighted he played well, lets see him mark up speight this coming weekend :)

    • brumby runner

      I thought Will was probably MOM yesterday, but his was not a perfect performance. Missed at least two or three tackles, one iirc in the lead up to a try. White does not have Will’s attacking skills, but is strong with his kicks and defence. Will’s kicking is also awesome. He is the best all round No9 in world rugby, but Nic is a worthy backup. This game once again showed that we really need the Genia/Cooper combination in the Wallabies.

    • ScrumJunkie

      I don’t think it’s sad, it reminds me of the gap between Gregan and the other Aussie halfbacks, back when the wallabies were unstoppable.

  • Westo

    Nothing better than to wake in the north with such good news. Magical!

  • Noisy

    Again a great game of rugby to watch. Sorry the chiefs handling errors let them down a bit. Also loved the not so subtle comments by the Kiwi commentary about Cooper and the national side. The chiefs winger who knocked his knee looked bloody dangerous…with talent like that and Savea the younger coming through its hard to see the all blacks hold on No 1 abating any time soon. Nice to hear Cooper’s assessment that the Reds are at about 70% at the moment…

  • Gottsy

    what a cracker of a game, both teams threw everything at it but the reds just had a little bit more, in particular horwill, hanson, gill, genia, cooper. the whole back row was tireless, not sure of the stats but it looked to me like quirk made about a thousand tackles and was first to clean out nearly every ruck?!
    after the game i also thought that it was probably a smart move for shatz not to listen to me yelling at the tv when he had hold of bundee aki haha
    was also good to hear the commentators across the ditch echo our sentiments on Link

  • Patrick

    So now next week’s Brumbies v Reds match is for the number one spot – who’d a thunk it??

    Of course neither team appears to be the backbone of our @;(&:! national side :(

  • Jon M

    Great game today from the reds! Full team effort. Scrum still a bit shaky. The kiwi commentators made a good point that the reds are a hard team to play against because they change their tactics and game plan every week depending on who they are playing. Compare that from Link to the rubbish we get from Deans every year where nobody knows what our tactics are and we play a one out game with guys like McCabe at 12. Can’t wait until Deans takes his Jandals back to Christchurch! We need a new coach ASAP, just hoping he doesn’t completely sabotage the lions series through poor selections and no game plan.

  • Kiap

    What a game! Two quality teams. A massive win on the Tribe’s home patch!

  • Footy44

    I think Cooper showed tonight he is the best 10 in Australia at Super 15 level. But can you risk the loose passes, turnovers, penalties not finding touch and defensive lapses at International level.
    You would at least have him on the bench for wallabies – be good guy to bring on to open up the game.

    • Rex Munday

      As McKenzie implied, why is it that Cooper and other Reds players come in for particular scrutiny which is reserved for them, when Waratahs players are given a free ride? I’d be more concerned that there are 10 players who are underperforming as a collective at provincial level, have been selected as a significant part of the Wallabies squad.

      • Touko

        Sorry, but that’s bullshit. Most of us love the Reds’ players and mostly they get sung praises – even some of ‘em who probably haven’t really earned it yet like Holmes. Tell me, just who exactly doesn’t praise Genia, or Horwill or Gill, or any of the other top shelf Reds’ players?

      • There’s no “particular scrutiny” about two passes to ground and one into touch, and defending out of the line, to go along with the brilliantly taken try. It’s the Cooper package and you’d have to looking through rose coloured glasses not to see that. Whether it works in tests is the question.

        • Rex Munday

          Failing to position yourself in defence is only a problem for Cooper, not Folau. Failing to throw a straight lineout is only a problem if you don’t wear blue #2. Failing to be able to jump in a lineout is only a problem unless you’re not wearing blue #5.

          Apparently throwing poor passes over the sideline isn’t a problem if your name is Berrick Barnes. Apparently failing to pass at all isn’t a problem if you have two dads or your name is Horne.

        • bazzar

          Because Barnes and AAC had 0 caps before the joined the Waratahs.

        • Rex Munday

          That’s not what I suggested. Try again.

          I’m saying that many players have shortcomings but there’s people, like you, who are so ridiculously anti-Cooper, that you single him out for criticism where others are forgiven.

          There’s some bozo on this thread criticizing him for not having 80% success rate with conversions. Aside from the fact that only the likes on Steyn have that sort of success rate, Cooper wouldn’t be selected for the Wallabies for kicking duties. What next? He doesn’t make a good paella??

          And while we are on the subject, I don’t mind Barnes, nor AAC. They’re good players, but they get selected no matter their form. I highly doubt Barnes would be on the radar if he hasn’t been a good little trooper and packed his swag for the journey to the big smoke a few years back.

        • bill

          Um, think you’ll find I was saying ANY team’s goalkicker shouldn’t be happy with less than 80% and was something he needs to keep working on. How is that singling Cooper out?

    • bill

      I don’t think the passes were too bad. The failing to find touch from a penalty is a huge nono that no player should ever accept though.

      His penalty kicking also needs to improve. There’s just no reason your team’s goal kicker shouldn’t be around 80%.

      • Rex Munday

        Once again, Cooper is singled out for something where others aren’t. 80% is pretty good but Quade isn’t in the side to make 80%. He’s there precisely because he isn’t a metronome.

        It’s just sooo farking boring. Change the record.

  • David

    All I can say is thank you Robbie. Leave Quade alone and worry about the wallatahs, the Reds need him and the rest of the warriors.

  • tommy

    love Quade but agree with footy44, those massive one bounce passes are not a good look & he failed to find touch on a penalty, which he seems to do regulary. Awesome game. Go reds.

  • Ralph

    I don’t think quade played well. He scored a nice try but that’s about it. You red supporters are so one eyed its ludicrous. Of course the kiwis would pump him up. They smashed us the last couple of games he played. Great win by a very committed team though. The reds are warming into the season nicely.

    • Clearly you’re in the minority. He was brilliant against the top NZ team in the comp… how was JoC tonight against the worst South African team even with 80% possession?

      • ralph

        Of course I’m in the minority Captain Obvious. This is a full fledged Banjo slinging reds love fest after all. You lot with Quade (who I do rate when he is playing well) are becoming as bad as kiwis with Sir Richie of the offside. How dare anybody say he didn’t play well.

        Ian – If your so convinced he was man of the match or even just had a blinder, list the things he did apart from score a try that turned the match at all. His defence today was not good (he balks at nearly every ruck), his passes today were suspect half the time, he offloads and lost the ball on more than one occasion and he missed at least one kick to touch. That’s not the makings of a great game let alone Scott’s MOM award. OR if it is then everybody else must have been shit.

        Rex – where in my comment do I write he is not the best 10 in the country? And why would you assume I’m a tah’s fan? I simply said he didn’t have a good game. He’s played a lot better.

        • Yeah Ian… list the things he did besides win the game… lets just focus on his mistakes instead!!! Ralph, everyone has a mistake. Everytime Carter misses a goal or doesn’t find touch does anyone call for his head?

        • ralph

          The tireless work of the Reds backrow, Genia’s sublime work under pressure and a couple of amazing cover tackles by Horwill had more to do with the reds win than Quade being on the field tonight.

        • Rex Munday

          The tireless work of the best back row in Australian rugby which is going to be rewarded with a single bench spot in the upcoming Lions series

        • Rex that is a huge call! Smith, Mowen and Kimlin have been more than handy this year. Force have some handy back rowers and I rate Jordy Reid.

        • bill

          Leave off the banjos man, it’a legitimate musical form.

          Actually speaking of rucks, 2nd? last pealty we got, after Chris F’S breaks out, kicks and tackles the receiver it was Chris F’S and Cooper at the ruck that force the holding penalty. Some decent positional kicking and godd choices and distribution.

          Yeah I suppose if you make something look simple people will take it for granted. The only question then is if it’s so simple why doesn’t every 5/8 do it. Well, I guess that is where the off the ball work by a good team does come into play.

          If that’s Cooper not playing well, he can play shit every game as far as I’m concerned. Still got stuff he can work on though, for sure.

        • Rex Munday

          Exactly

        • Noisy

          Bill, the banjo IS a legitimate musical form but unfortunately it is often used in a style of music that is impossible for the southerners to dance to in their crotchless leather chaps – too much chafing. Like many of my fellow rednecks I disagree with the constant barrage aimed at Cooper, but agree he can improve on some points in his game. I also believe that Deans is both unable to man manage the player, or able to come up with a play book that utilises his strengths and covers his weaknesses. It would seem that the environment and/or the coaches at the Reds can do this. The constant success that the franchise has experienced over the last 3-4 years with both player and admin prove this. I also believe that, even at an international level, utilising a pair of halves who have been playing together since they were 15 years old has more benefits than any other pairing proposed. And if you throw Beiber in at 12 it looks even more dangerous. However I hear that Robbie has a new plan. He can’t see the point of flankers so the squad will instead have an extra two fullbacks, and he is bringing Al Baxter back to run as fly half.

        • bill

          … I find paw paw cream to be an excellent protection against chafing.

        • Steve O

          Ralph, go and blog on Fox sports with all the other kids, ‘Banjo slinging’. You sir are a twat.

        • If anyone bags Quade you are automatically tainted with the Tahs supporter brush. I have been insulted like that on a number of occasions :-)

    • Rex Munday

      Are you serious? He’s the best 10 in the country but Tahs fans seem prepared to accept the myth that he’s not in return for the selection of 10 also rans and hasbeens. The Reds have now beaten 3 from 3 NZ sides and a top SA side, and you’re still arguing. Know when to stop. At least we’ve got some basis to our bias, ie that Reds players and coaches actually perform.

      • Balanced View

        Yes – he gets away with mixed performances at Super level that unfortunately get punished badly at Test Level where every 1% counts. He was better in 2011 and still stuffed up at the RWC.

        So lets get real. Cooper can be the best but he needs to work on the bits that matter at test level. And Link ain’t helping him – too much personal ambition and not enough tough love!

        • Klaus

          Quade for Qld has always had a player who can pass outside him. McCabe didn’t help Quade in the World Cup and anyone with some nouse of rugby would agree to that.

    • handles

      Cruden missed more tackles, dropped more ball, and didn’t kick as well. If Quade had turned in that performance, the whole barking internet community would be shouting about how bad he was.

      Quade owned him, and the step to go under the posts was icing on the cake. And, as Link pointed out, Cruden didn’t defend at 10, so Robbie wouldn’t pick him either.

      • ralph

        Your missing my point – not that I’m shocked. I simply said Quade didn’t have a good game. I made no mention of Cruden.

        • BloodRed

          Time to let it go Ralph

        • mikeylives

          Last couple of games QC playing ABs….
          Last 3: RWC – loss, Brisbane: Win, HK :Win

  • Bearfact

    Last week watching the Chiefs I was in awe of their intensity and speed at the breakdown. So it was great to see the Reds forwards take it to them today. What an inspiration to see Big Kev barge through them at the start. His confidence to kick the penalty for the lineout and drive for a try must of set the Chiefs back on their heels near half time. I read in the news that the Chief’s coaches Rennie and Smith were ‘galled’ by the way the Reds went through them at Suncorp stadium last year. So great work again by the Reds forwards in Waikato today.

    Quade’s neat dummy around Cruden under the posts looked so easy. Nice to see Rod Davies trot in for two tries after such a long layoff. Wonder how Tapuai is feeling after Kahui ironed him out, Tell me, wasn’t that a shoulder charge and high at that? Kahui will walk back into the All Blacks. What about Patrick Osborne? The Reds couldn’t lay a finger on him. Good thing he went off injured.

    It feels good to see the gritty Red’s defence. They earned a valuable win that will turn a few heads.

    • Who?

      Kahui’s hit wasn’t late, but it was a shoulder charge to the jaw. Should’ve been a penalty, but the Kiwi commentators were much more interested in raving about Kahui and the big hit than the illegal play.

      • bill

        As you’ve described it it’s a straight red card.

        • handles

          I thought it should have been yellow. I don’t think it was a clear no arms, but it was definitely high enough for a yellow. I think Kahui may well be wishing he got a yellow, because (I think) that stops the video reviewers?

          I also thought that Taps had his worst 40 minutes of football this season after the hit. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he is concussed.

      • bill

        Having had a chance to watch the replay, maybe it’s high, depending on how you view these things. It’s definitely not a shoulder charge, and first contact looks to be Kahuis chest/collarbone on Taps shoulder as he’s turned in the followthrough from passing. Then it slips up.

        Just a good hard tackle for mine. Not even late either.

        If first point of contact had been Taps jaw the scoreboard attendants would probably have awarded the chiefs 3 points for a field goal because Taps head would have left his body and bisected the uprights. Either that or the wrong Red has taken up boxing, if he can take that hit….

    • Going for touch rather than goal is something the Brumbies should try more often. Only criticism I can make of Benny Mowen this year though.

  • bill

    I enjoyed Link’s defence earlier today of useing Quade at fullback in defence and the line about treating him as an adult. Wonder if the adult thing is a dig at Robbie?

  • Redsfan1

    Hey Barbarian- still think the Tahs should have 10 to 7 Reds in the Wallabies?! The Reds forwards showed the Waratahs the meaning of fitness!

    • Fitness is one thing but they need to perform at set piece. Brumbies scrum best in Australia at the moment.

      • Redsfan1

        The Reds forwards killed the pick & drive, lineout, breakdown, rolling maul. Against the no.1 team. Brumbies had a couple good scrums but are no where near the Reds around the park. Their forwards barely make the advantage line.

        • David

          Makes this weekend all the more fascinating…Brumbies will have a much tougher game than in Rd 1 against a red team looking more and more like the 2011 reds. (I know there’s a long way to go, just optimistic)

        • Pedro

          That’s the kind of shit you don’t say within ear shot of fotu auelua.

        • Tomikin

          Seriously, let’s just see how the lineout scrum breakdown and maul go this week against the Brumbies. Hopefully Fardy is back this week too so we can see a real smash up at the breakdown. Im also wanting to see Gill vs Smith. Should be a cracker but to say the above is rubbish.

  • handles

    The really good thing was that Gill outplayed Kane and Cooper outplayed Cruden. I thought Hansen was great, but would like a good look at the scrums, as Holmes seemd to have trouble. I think it is a lottery with Steve Walsh though.

    Horwill and Genia were mighty. Kahui (and Osborne!) gave Tapuai and Faingaa some problems, but mainly after Kahui’s high shot on Taps.

    • Phil

      Finally someone mentioned Osborne!Who is that guy?I think he totally got the Chiefs back in the game and if he was not injured then it might have only been 1 point the difference at the death.

  • stillatragic

    Great game to watch. Most exciting game of running rugby for a while. I think Steve Walsh has a lot to do with that. He always lets teams play. I’m not sure if its because he reckons little mistakes/errors aren’t worth penalizing, or he just doesn’t know the laws. Probably a bit of both. He does have his favourites though, and his bette noirs. The Reds were slowing the ball, for sure, but the Chiefs were continually diving over and rarely got pinged, never warned. That’s how I saw it anyway.

    The Reds looked very focused last night. No big celebrations until the hooter. Augers well for the rest of the comp, hopefully.

    Regarding Quade, a very good match behind a dominant Genia and a very good pack (mostly). Quade didn’t contribute at all though, according to the anti-Quade-ites. He only contributes to losses.

    • Muffy

      I have always thought Walsh watches one team at a time, and it swings about. The one thing that nearly got my new TV a XXXX size hole was the Chiefs version of the gate! They were given serious leeway there.

      That said the last 2 minutes it was like he was riffing the souths vs wests under 6’s, just letting the kids play on and have fun.

      Quade was excellent, but I think perhaps not deserving of the all round love nor hate fest.

      what Cooper consistently does over the next three weeks that will be the deal maker/breaker as far as the yellow jumper goes!

      • David

        Agree about the Chiefs coming through the gate…was doing a fair bit of yelling myself, but disagree with Walsh letting the game flow.
        Yesterday he did a much better job than a reds home game against Hurricanes earlier in the year when he thought every scrum needed a penalty after packing..but he was much better yesterday.

      • the other dave

        Waikato also seemed to have one or two blokes blocking in no-man’s land after a few handling errors and turnovers in the second half. They seemed to peel two bound blokes off the side of the T/R/M as a means of achieving this, or using the age-old lazy runner.

      • Pedro

        Ha ha yellow jumper.

  • Grand Tetons

    Hansen’s stocks are rising while TPN’s (great warrior of the past) are falling. Who is Aus second best hooker behind Stephen Moore (pronounced “moo-or” in NZ and moo-oor in SA)?

    • Muffy

      It’s Moore first …… Daylight next …. then a bottle neck of goodish hookers, without a real stand out.

      I would love to put Slime-on-my-finger’s heart and nouse into TPNs body!

      • grand Tetons

        Yes, except that TPN’s bod is broke…and all the king’s horses and all the king’s men..

    • Never rated TPN. Good around the park and more guts than a multiple VC winner but struggles to do the basics of his position. He harks back to the Steady Eddie days of picking a mobile and skilled front row that gets smashed in the scrums and a hooker who struggles to throw consistantly past two.

      • Pedro

        Can’t throw, can scrummage.

  • Blair

    Awesomely entertaining game! The difference in my mind, was the organisation and execution in the Reds forward pack.

  • I just posted this over on the forums but thought I might post it here to get some other people’s opinions on the matter:

    Sorry to derail this slightly but I was just wondering if anybody else noticed what I thought was a pretty major and game changing inconsistency with Walsh last week.

    We have probably all seen or noticed how he pulled Sam Cane back from the a maul following a Chiefs lineout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnI7nh_WI4w) as Cane was offside.

    This is due to some of the rules in law 19 – touch and lineout.

    The backs (or anybody not involved in the lineout) cannot move past their offside line (10m from the line of touch) until the lineout is over — but the lineout is only over when (Law 19.9):

    When the ball is thrown, knocked or kicked out of the lineout, the lineout ends.

    When the ball or a player carrying the ball moves into the area between the 5-metre line and the touchline, the lineout ends.

    When a lineout player hands the ball to a player who is peeling off, the lineout ends.

    When the ball is thrown beyond the 15-metre line, or when a player takes or puts it beyond that line, the lineout ends.

    When a ruck or maul develops in a lineout, and all the feet of all the players in the ruck or maul move beyond the line of touch, the lineout ends.

    When the ball becomes unplayable in a lineout, the lineout ends. Play restarts with a scrum.

    So we can obviously agree that Walsh has made the correct call in the case of Sam Cane above (calling him offside, and it was good management to make him back off so as to not give away the penalty which only happens if he has an impact on play)

    Now I would say take a look at 2:11 in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7wgx4AqDVM

    You can clearly see Lance (15) , Ant (13) and Taps (12) come in and join the maul before the lineout was over.

    I think it was pretty obvious, especially compared to the Cane one, that the reds were all offside and the try should be disallowed – but neither the touchy or Walsh picked it up and he obviously felt the was no need to go to the TMO so he got no input from there.

    I only mention it here because I thought it was strange nobody had brought up what seemed to me to be a clear breach of the rules directly leading to a try in what was an extremely good and close game of rugby.

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Scott is one of our regular contributors from the old days of G&GR. He has experience coaching Premier Grade with two clubs in Brisbane.

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