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Teams named for Third Test

Teams named for Third Test

The battle lines have been drawn.

A sold-out Sydney crowd awaits.

And now, the teams have been named:

WALLABIES TEAM

STARTERS

IRISH TEAM

RUN ON XV

1. Scott Sio (45 Tests)

2. Brandon Paenga-Amosa (2 Tests)

3. Sekope Kepu (93 Tests)

4. Izack Rodda (6 Tests)

5. Adam Coleman (22 Tests)

6. Lukhan Tui (6 Tests)

7. Michael Hooper (c) (81 Tests)

8. David Pocock (67 Tests)

9. Nick Phipps (63 Tests)

10. Bernard Foley (57 Tests)

11. Marika Koroibete (10 Tests)

12. Kurtley Beale (73 Tests)

13. Samu Kerevi (20 Tests)

14. Dane Haylett-Petty (20 Tests)

15. Israel Folau (64 Tests)

1. Jack McGrath

2. Sean Cronin

3. Tadhg Furlong

4. Devin Toner

5. James Ryan

6. CJ Stander

7. Peter O’Mahony (c)

8. Jack Conan

9. Conor Murray

10. Johnny Sexton

11. Jacob Stockdale

12. Bundee Aki

13. Robbie Henshaw

14. Keith Earls

15. Rob Kearney

FINISHERS

REPLACEMENTS

16. Tolu Latu (6 Tests)

17. Tom Robertson (20 Tests)

18. Taniela Tupou (3 Tests)

19. Rob Simmons (84 Tests)

20. Ned Hanigan (12 Tests)

21. Pete Samu (2 Tests)

22. Joe Powell (3 Tests)

23. Reece Hodge (26 Tests)

16. Niall Scannell

17. Cian Healy

18. John Ryan

19. Tadhg Beirne

20. Jordi Murphy

21. Kieran Marmion

22. Ross Byrne

23. Jordan Larmour

 

Where: Allianz Stadium, Sydney
When: Sat 23rd June 8pm AEST
Referee: Pascal Gauzere (France)
Assistant Referees: Paul Williams (NZ), Marius van der Westhuizen (SA)
TMO: Ben Skeen (NZ)

 

  • Bobas

    no RRRINGROSE?

    • Braveheart81

      I hear they didn’t pick him because they caught wind of a plan by Hugh Cavill to streak onto the field yelling RRRINGROSE and attemping to tackle him.

      • Hugh Cavill

        He’s so bloody good I wouldn’t be able to get a finger on him.

  • Reinforce

    Adam Coleman has only played 7 tests? Wow. He seems like he has been there forever – a first picked in the pack. Just feels like he has been there for some time.
    Our team is the best of who we have. I like the feel of it. Competitive with anyone on their day. May the first of their days begin again on Saturday.

    • Hugh Cavill

      My mistake – he’s played 22. Updated now.

  • disqus_NMXfOrw5ot

    Ned Hanigan is back in… faaaarkiing aaaaaawwwweeessoommmeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Mart

      hmmm am i detecting….. nah great bench and Simmons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • disqus_NMXfOrw5ot

        I feel a bit mean now lol. It’s not his fault he got picked ahead of Fardy over and over again. Hopefully will turn into a top class player.

        • Richard Patterson

          David Pocock will need to be more impactful. Ireland were the latest side to demonstrate to the world that if you nullify his work at the breakdown his effectiveness on a match falls away dramatically.

        • Steve

          I think that’s more a reflection of the fact that we have only one truly impactful player at the breakdown. No point putting the pressure on Pocock, it’s the other guys that need to deliver

        • Richard Patterson

          That is very true. Critics of Pocock though label him a one-dimensional player. Remove his breakdown effectiveness (as Ireland did) and the rest of his game is no real threat around the park.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Pocock had a couple of key turnovers and slowed down Ireland’s ball the entire night, as well as being by far our most effective clean-outer on our own ball.

          Wasn’t his most impactful game, but hardly a poor one.

        • Richard Patterson

          Good points. Pocock though is not a world class loose forward with ball in hand or as a distributor when the Wallabies have possession. It is a part of his game they are trying to improve, but compare him in these areas to the French, Springbok & Irish loose forwards through these June tests.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I actually think his linking game is of a good international standard and second only to George Smith in terms of Australian 7s this century.

          I’ll agree his running game in open space leaves a lot to be desired, but he did run for the most meters amongst all Aussie forwards in game 1 interestingly.

        • Richard Patterson

          Interesting. Where do you rank Michael Hooper?

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I just see him as more of a ball-runner than a link-man. He doesn’t naturally seem to look for the pass as often, prefers to go himself. Which is fine, just different strengths.

          Hooper doesn’t throw the 20m left to right passes like Pocock did to set up a try vs the Bulls a few weeks back.

        • Richard Patterson

          Interesting. Aren’t they inherently connected, versus being labelled mutually exclusive?

        • Brumby Runner

          Not necessarily. Hooper is at his best when he runs the ball wide of the ruck and acts as another centre rather than providing a link between forwards and backs.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          In my eyes they’re a bit different. Take 12 for example – you can have a crash ball 12 that looks to run (Jamie Roberts) or a second playmaker whose first thought is to pass and set up his outside man first. That’s how I see it anyway.

        • Richard Patterson

          Fair points. I believe there are 2 core “must have” roles as an international loose forward. 1. Tackling / defensive skills 2. Breakdown effectiveness. The added “nice to have” roles are 3. ball-playing / work on the ball ability and 4. set piece effectiveness. As ALL loose forwards keep getting better at 1 & 2 it then becomes their ability in 3 & 4 that decides their comparative value. It’s the willingness to compromise on “core” roles to include “nice to have” roles that is the challenge. Amongst the 5 Wallaby loose forwards expected to feature this Saturday we will see who has what – especially when it matters! Test rugby is just that — the ultimate test. Enjoy it.

        • Brumby Runner

          To be truthful, I think he would rank as one of the most valuable bench players in world rugby.

        • Brumby Runner

          Looked just like the other 14 Wallabies on the ground, didn’t he? The makeup of the backrow is the issue, not the way Pocock plays the game.

        • Richard Patterson

          Very sound point.

        • John Miller

          It’s constantly amazing to me how David Pocock comes in for such scrutiny after being Australia’s best whilst wearing te wrong jersey and a man down in the tight exchanges and yet, Michael Hooper’s lack of effectiveness, poor judgement and negligible impact in both attack and defence is waxed over.

          Just this last game:

          22 mins – Hooper easily bumped off by Kearney front on
          33 mins – manhandled in the tackle after the bizarre quick tap and quickly turned over by O’Mahoney
          35 mins – bumped off by McGrath (same bloke who ragdolled him on his way to the tryline in test one)
          46 mins – rushes out of the defensive line, misses badly and the Irish pour through the gap
          49 mins – doubles on sexton (beale has him covered) and fails to pick up the inside runner – Earles runs straight through the gap untouched
          49 mins – penalised for coming in on the side of the ruck.
          53 mins – penalty advantage played against Hooper – lying in the ruck (not called because Furlong crashes over for the try)
          62 – Hooper again bumped off by Jordi Murphy

          The invisible unaccountability bubble in which Michael Hooper resides is all pervasive. If the Wallabies backrow needs realignment, it sure as hell isn’t David Pocock’s impact that requires review.

        • Richard Patterson

          I do not disagree with anything you say. My comment was really directed at disqus_NMXfOrw5ot who has an extremely high opinion of David Pocock.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Meh, I think it’s warranted. He’s consistently our best player week in, week out. Even last week when he team as a whole struggled I thought he was clearly our best player.

      • disqus_NMXfOrw5ot

        I feel a bit mean now lol. It’s not his fault he got picked ahead of Fardy over and over again. Hopefully will turn into a top class player.

    • Mart

      hmmm am i detecting….. nah great bench and Simmons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Bobas
      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        !!!! I actually just snorted my coffee all over my laptop and everyone in the cafe is just staring at me!

    • Bobas
  • julesie

    Going to the game, can’t wait! Team looks very decent. Should be a cracka of a match. CAAARN THE WALLABIES!

  • julesie

    Going to the game, can’t wait! Team looks very decent. Should be a cracka of a match. CAAARN THE WALLABIES!

  • Sambo

    Don’t understand the thought behind the team though… Ireland beat the Wallabies at the breakdown, and it looks like they’re not bringing in anyone to combat that. Poey can’t be Poey if he’s the only pilferer on the field.

    • Braveheart81

      Poey got the opportunities in game 1 because we won the collision zone on defence and kept tackling them behind the gain line. That didn’t happen in game 2. All our forwards (and backs) need to aim up in defence.

      • Sambo

        I think it has more to do with Ireland changing their game plan and committing more to the breakdown… there were Irish bodies flopped all over the ruck. Same went for our aerial attack. The Irish kept impeding Izzy’s line and nulified the threat. More pilferers mean more players the Irish need to look out for in their attacking rucks rather than zoning in on Pocock every time.

        • Rob

          Ireland contested the breakdown with the same sort of aggression that brings back memories of Hooper cleaning out Mike Brown in the RWC. They led with their heads and made no effort to keep their feet. And they got away with it all.

          There is a very easy way to combat this – win the tackle in front of the gain line. This forces the players supporting the ball carrier to run back and around. it keeps their pace down, denies them a clean look/shot at Pocock, and gives him an extra split second.

          And, if the Irish are desperate to win the gain line in order to allow them to nullify Pocock, then they’ll have to run more upright and try and go forward in contact to do it. That gives us an opportunity to hold the ball carrier up. THAT is the change we should have made at 1/2 time in Melbourne.

      • Sambo

        I think it has more to do with Ireland changing their game plan and committing more to the breakdown… there were Irish bodies flopped all over the ruck. Same went for our aerial attack. The Irish kept impeding Izzy’s line and nulified the threat. More pilferers mean more players the Irish need to look out for in their attacking rucks rather than zoning in on Pocock every time.

    • Braveheart81

      Poey got the opportunities in game 1 because we won the collision zone on defence and kept tackling them behind the gain line. That didn’t happen in game 2. All our forwards (and backs) need to aim up in defence.

  • Sambo

    Don’t understand the thought behind the team though… Ireland beat the Wallabies at the breakdown, and it looks like they’re not bringing in anyone to combat that. Poey can’t be Poey if he’s the only pilferer on the field.

  • Huw Tindall

    Ted Flanigan back in the squad!! Bookies have shortened the odds.

  • Huw Tindall

    Ted Flanigan back in the squad!! Bookies have shortened the odds.

  • Fatflanker

    Well, good on the coaches for leaving the team largely unchanged. Feel a bit sorry for Timu but his time will come again. Koroibete and Kerevi to have blinders and repay the faith.

    • Sambo

      Can’t really have 2 quiet games and expect to get a 3rd. His job is a ball carrying forward and he didn’t execute. I like Timu but it looks like he needs to develop more to make an impact at test level.

      • Custard Taht

        Why not? Ned Hanigan has had 12 quiet games and is about notch up the bakers dozen.

        • Sambo

          I can’t argue there. Simmons is a standout for quiet games. Must be leading tally

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        In his debut match he made his tackles. He needed to carry more, yes, but we didn’t have much possession and the play never really came his way.

        In test 2 he had a big run in the lead up to Beale’s try. He then quickly got injured and played poorly until he was replaced at half time.

        It is possible that he isn’t yet up to international rugby, being very inexperienced, but I think it is extremely harsh to judge him particularly for either of the last two weeks. He needs more time to show what he is or is not capable of.

      • Brumby Runner

        Even with his two quiet games, he had more impact in his 80 odd minutes than Ned Hanigan had in 12 tests. And if it’s right that he suffered an ankle injury early in test 2, than I for one hope his replacement by Hanigan is very, very temporary.

      • Parker

        A quiet Timu is better than a Hanigan with roid rage.

  • Fatflanker

    Well, good on the coaches for leaving the team largely unchanged. Feel a bit sorry for Timu but his time will come again. Koroibete and Kerevi to have blinders and repay the faith.

  • Caeliv Donnelly

    Fair play to Jack McGrath – really put his hand up for selection last week. Just a pity he was in the middle of a ruck at the time. Good luck Saturday – a little disappointed in our selection – I would have rather gone gung-ho for the win, notwithstanding I think we could still do it. G’wan Ireland!

    • Fatflanker

      Injuries surely? I got the impression Schmidt was prioritising a series win over experimentation from what he was saying. Sneaky bugger will have some surprises in store regardless.

      • Caeliv Donnelly

        Injuries in part but Byrne on bench and Cronin starting wouldn’t happen in a ‘normal’ winner take all scenario.

  • Tim

    disappointed with ned on the bench. He has put on some size this year i hope he has an impact. Would love to see Rory get given the nod on the bench over simmons

    • Rob

      We’re always so close to a good team, always just one or two Tah passengers away from that. Swap Simmons for Arnold and Hanigan for Timu and very few people would complain (too much) – even with Phipps starting and Robertson on the bench.

      The game plan though, now that’s another matter. $10 says we put up bombs in our own 22 for Folau to chase and just “hope” that this time he gets a clear run at the contest.

      • Braveheart81

        Simmons is the second lineout caller after Coleman. If Arnold was going to get into this side it would have been starting instead of Rodda.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Rodda can call also. I don’t really see the logic of Simmons off the bench, he seems like a starter or out of the 23, not a bench impact player.. Rodda and Arnold both more impactful off the bench.

        • Braveheart81

          Rodda hasn’t been impactful though. His ball running has been non-existent. He’s been a solid toiler like Simmons. Rodda calls for the Reds but the current setup in the Wallabies seems to be Coleman as the starting caller and Simmons as the backup.

          Simmons has been fine. I would like to see Arnold get a crack too because his form this season has been excellent but he got suspended at the wrong time and missed out on a shot. If Simmons wasn’t deeply unpopular amongst the fanbase no one would be arguing that Rodda was playing better than Simmons. It is much of a muchness.

          I would have started Arnold in place of Rodda this test to give him a crack and hope he added some extra physicality that we could do with.

          I am pretty certain we will continue to see Coleman and Simmons as 2 of the 3 locks in each matchday 23 through to the RWC.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          Rodda has had more impact than Simmons.

          I agree that Arnold should be the reserve lock. After Coleman definitely most high-impact.

  • Hoss

    I am guessing Cheika spent the week like many a constipated Shakespeare fan, Tupou or not Tupou,that is the question

    • Sambo

      badoom

    • OnTheBurst

      Nice! Try the veal!

    • Lol – Bam!

    • Brisneyland Local

      Mate that is quote of the test season right there!

  • OnTheBurst

    I’ve heard great things about that young Kiwi TMO lad, Skeen I think?

    • Bobas

      camera no. 7 has helped us twice in two games

  • Rob

    What a bench. Robertson, Simmons, Hannigan, Powell. These guys are just scream “impact” at you. They’re sure to change the game in the last 20.

    Nice to see also that our selections don’t address the areas that we were beaten last week in any way, shape or form. Beaten at the breakdown – need someone else who can get over the ball? Nah. Aerial game a mess, Folau can’t get a passage through to compete, could put him on the wing and have him jump one on one against 178cm Keith Earls? Nah.

    But as always it will be our ridiculous gameplan that lets us down, more than our selections.

    • Bobas

      Its the inability to change game plans that gets me. We scored off a simple inside ball with an early decoy spread play, try it again? Nah, Cross feild kick.

    • Hugh Cavill

      I disagree. Tui for Timu is a smart change, replacing a ballrunner with a grafter in a game where we’re only going to get 40% possession. And I’d also argue Simmons and Robertson have had quite a bit of impact from the bench, as evidenced by the fact that we’ve closed hard in the last 15 minutes of both tests so far.

      • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

        ‘And I’d also argue Simmons and Robertson have had quite a bit of impact from the bench, as evidenced by the fact that we’ve closed hard in the last 15 minutes of both tests so far.’

        Um, correlation does not equal causation?

        We also had Tui, Samu, Latu and especially Thor coming off the bench. To thus attribute the impact at the end of matches to Simmons and Robertson seems like very questionable logic, unless you can go through and analyse the specific points that they’ve been great contributors.

        I like Simmons but he is better as an 60-80min grinder than a 30min impact player.

        • Brumby Runner

          Yeah, Robertson has put in a couple of very good shifts in the tests after showing good form in recent Tahs’ games, and Rob Simmons was busier than usual in his time in test 2, but impact and Simmons should never be used in the same sentence.

          The impact players on the bench were Tupou, Latu, Samu and Tui. This bench looks a lot weaker.

          Samu really should start to give the Wallabies another option at the breakdown in the early parts of the game where dominance can be established.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          I actually don’t think Hooper is having much impact against the Irish. The Irish hold too much possession and are so good at the breakdown. Against the Irish I’d be tempted to bench him and start Samu.

          Robertson is good around the park, weak in the scrums. Definitely not the sort of guy I’d personally have off the bench, but he’s playing well around the field.

      • Adrian

        Agree Hugh.
        Simmons, Robertson, Samu are all prey mobile, which means they’ll get to breakdowns which might be switched from side to side. Powell should get to breakdowns too. I think this all means keeping the running going right to the end

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      Powell should’ve been the reserve halfback in one of the two tests at least (and should have gotten more game time last year).

      He’s not an impact player as he lacks running power, but he has a very good pass, is quick to the breakdown, snipes more than Phipps despite having a weaker running game, is good defensively, has a decent box kick and makes good decisions.

      He’s a good little halfback, Phipps is just the better impact player.

      However, because of Cheika refusing to give him game time last year, or even in tests 1 or 2 this year we’re in a situation where Phipps simply has to start.

      So many of the Wallabies’ issues are problems of Cheika’s own making.

  • Bobas

    Based on the squad, history and Timu’s unreported injury these seemed like inevitable choices.

    I would have been a lot bolder and probably Brumby biased:
    1 Sio
    2 FF (pulled if throwing hasn’t improved)
    3 TT (why not)
    4 Arnold
    5 Coleman
    6 Tui
    7 Hooper
    8 Pocock
    9 Commissioner Gordon
    10 Foley
    11 Hodge
    12 Beale
    13 Kuridrani
    14 Folau
    15 DHP

    16 BPA
    17 AAA
    18 Kepu
    19 Carter
    20 Samu
    21 Powell
    22 Maddocks
    23 Koroibete

    • Seaweed

      Good FB + wing choice. Like Hodge’s boot for clearances and goals in a tight game. Balanced back 3. Agree Gordon could be test level HB. Needs a run to find out. Is this the game? Maybe, because Phipps very rarely is a game changer.

  • idiot savant

    Brisbane reserve grade rugby is clearly the perfect preparation for test football! Tui played very well last week and has earned a start.

    With the two sides being very evenly matched this is going to be a test for the leaders and key playmakers. If Foley takes charge and brings his A game we can win this.

    • Brumby Runner

      Would you rate Foley’s A game as good as or better than Sexton’s?

      • idiot savant

        Foley is a better runner but Sexton is better at everything else particularly game management. Sexton is also the better leader – an area where Foley should have shown more improvement in by now. Both are smart players.

        However, because Australia has far more dangerous attacking players if Foley does brings his A Game (kicks well, sets up his outside backs, backs up and uses his running skills, low error count) then Australia should win. If he doesn’t bring it and with Genia gone Im not sure there is the direction out there to get the job done. Beale would have to have a blinder. So, if our forwards match their previous efforts, the fate of the game is in Foley’s hands.

  • McWarren

    I pose this question Hugh. If we lose this series can we continue to justify the Pooper? As our aggressive D line can only be counted on every two to three games are we justified in running the Pooper? You see it is not effective when our defence is timid.

    We could win so many more games with a hard hitting 6 & 8 knocking players back over the ad line and let Pocock go to work.

    • idiot savant

      Actually I think our D in the Irish series has been better than at almost any time since Cheika took over. Given the weight of possession and territory the Irish have enjoyed to hold them to so few tries has been remarkable.

      • McWarren

        its held on, but it hasn’t dominated and it hasn’t helped Pococks turnovers, apart from game 1. I have no doubt we can do it, how could I? I’ve seen them do it? My point is they don’t do it regularly enough. ‘It’ being a dominating defense. The big difference between the AB’s and the Kiwi SR sides in the last decade in comparison to the Wallabies or Reds, Tahs etc is there consistency in delivery of a tough defensive attitude. It seems we need to be reminded of how important it is every game. Where as I think it should just be a default setting. But because it isn’t yet set to default I question the value of the Pooper. And I’ll declare I question the value of the Pooper anyway.

        • idiot savant

          Yeah I agree more aggression would help Pocock but I think the D is the most improved aspect of the wallabies this year. It is getting more committed. Im with you on the Pooper. Ive long held the view that Hooper is not particularly effective against the best sides in world rugby. I might be wrong but with the exception of the win against the ABs last year, Hooper hasn’t played in any other victories against top tier sides without Pocock. Hes a great player – just not the kind of 7 you need to beat the best in the world on a regular basis. But I still hope to be proved wrong when we win the World Cup next year!

        • Andy

          You’re wrong unless NZ is the only team defined as “top tier”

    • Hugh Cavill

      In theory that’s correct, but do we have a ‘hard hitting’ 6 or 8? If such a player existed I think it would be a different discussion. But I’m not sure one exists, frankly.

      • McWarren

        Tui and Timu. Holloway and Wells. Higgers. Cottrel.

  • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

    Overall, it is a pretty good team given who we have in the squad and the injury to Genia.

    I hate to go over this topic yet again, but what is Hanigan bringing? It isn’t like it is a high impact guy like Timani on the bench to bring on. Presumably he is only considered as a 6 replacement (god do I hope he isn’t considered at lock), but in what plausible scenario are we going to want to take someone off for him? If the match is in the balance Pocock and Hooper will play 80 minutes, and we have Samu on the bench to come on at 6. Samu is just a superior player to Hanigan except the line out.

    That opens yet another can of worms – do we really want three 7s on the field at the same time?

    Does this mean that one of our replacements will sit on the bench unused?

    If that’s the case, why did we not go for a 5-3 split like virtually every other international coach always goes for. This series was the perfect opportunity to blood someone like Maddocks or Banks, or to give Rona more of a run off the bench at 13/wing. Instead, rather like June last year we’ve built no back depth whatsoever.

    Why has Powell not been given more of a run last year and in the earlier tests? Phipps played well last week, but I am not a fan of his overall, and especially not as a starter – at most he should be a replacement halfback off the bench. The worst has happened and now Genia is injured, and Phipps will have to play the majority of the match, which is a concern we’ve had since Cheika took over and sent Nic White packing. Phipps as backup 9 has never really been successful.

    I just don’t understand.

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