The G&GR Social Pages: Vuna v. Beale

Cat March 24, 2013 36

No GravatarIf you weren’t glued to Twitter on Sunday morning you would have missed something the news outlets will be sensationalising and analysing over the days to come.

All tweets

 

 

We have chosen to simply post the tweets as they happened and you can form your own views.

The tweets were deleted about half an hour after they were posted, and I assume this was done at the behest of his teammates and/or Melbourne Rebels management

 

It will be interesting to see where the Rebels organisational culture falls on this when punishment is meted out.

Who will be punished more harshly?

The player who walked away after being punched by a teammate, but who talked about it publicly?

Or the (implied intoxicated) person who punched a teammate who walked away?

 

What are your thoughts?

 

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* Edit: This is the response to GAGR’s own Melbourne Daz during the exchange.

 

 

 

Update:

Media Release, 24 March 2013

OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE MELBOURNE REBELS

The Melbourne Rebels would like to respond to reports of an incident between players following the team’s bus trip home to their hotel in Umhlanga.

The Club is treating this matter as serious and a full internal investigation has begun with the players involved.

Therefore, the Club cannot provide any further comment until the internal investigation is completed.

The Club will be fully co-operative to any media request as per the Club’s media policy at the conclusion of this investigation.

No other parties were involved.
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Discussion

  • Goddess

    Holy mother of god, Cat. Do you have spidey senses or what!?!?!

  • Tim

    Ouch

  • http://cycloschat.wordpress.com/ Cyclopath

    I think everyone should be veeerrrry careful what they say in the comments!! Interesting times.

    • Catriona_A

      Agreed Cyclo – the thoughts I was referring to were not on the players’ actions, rather how the Rebels organisation frames their response. Please everyone – don’t get us (or yourselves) sued.

  • matty__k

    Wow.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tao.teching.142 Tao Te Ching

    It’s also a very interesting example of the social consequences of Twitter. There have been a few books and films about what the world would be like if our thoughts were broadcast in real time so everyone could see them. Welcome to the future. Hopefully the facts are milder than the conjecture already springing up on other sites from people with a desire to be see one or other player burn.

  • USARugger

    I think it might be time for someone to do a little Z. Guildford alcohol-related sabbatical…

    • Moz

      Are you saying he nuded up as well and ran through the town??? Cat, any truth in this, as I assume you would know about that??

      • USARugger

        No fortunately (or unfortunately?) that’s not the case here but if you want to find one common thread tied to every incident with this player…it’s booze

  • mons

    Hopefully this isn’t true, Beale is probably getting close to his final chance.

    • Rex Munday

      Hopefully it isn’t true that Vuna was assaulted

      • http://www.facebook.com/tao.teching.142 Tao Te Ching

        We do have a lot of spiraling conjecture now, and no facts.

  • jordo

    They should put them both in the ring with gloves and let them sort it out as grown men,,,,,,anything that comes of this will all be for media “satisfaction” and “public image”…… wonder what would have happened if he had hit kurtley with a handbag the way Tana Umanga sorted out their troubles..:)

  • Guest

    Thanks..I really appreciate my conversation with a friend being plastered over here…NOT..creeps

    • http://landoftheunit.wordpress.com/ Sully

      Really? You can do private messages on twitter. You had a conversation in front of everyone you and cooper are connected to in twitter. Use the direct message function, that’s what it’s for.

      • http://www.facebook.com/tao.teching.142 Tao Te Ching

        That’s right. Broadcasting your private conversations on a public network is profoundly naive.

      • Rex Munday

        This is why, as prime minister, I will be seeking to introduce a Twitter license. It will require the holder to have an IQ of more than 75.

    • http://www.facebook.com/tao.teching.142 Tao Te Ching

      Get used to it. It’ll be on every rugby site on the planet in a few minutes.

    • Catchphrase Jones

      The entire point of Twitter is that it’s in the public sphere. If you wanted to talk in private, give the man a call, send him a text, direct message him on Twitter. This isn’t creepy, it’s social media. Time to get used to it.

    • Barbarian

      Only one of your tweets was a conversation, the other two were just public rants. You surely knew that it would get noticed.

    • Sharon

      Then why complain publicly that they “only printed half the conversation”?

  • Persona Non Grata

    This debacle, I mean the game and then this incident, really define the problems with the Rebels. I surprises me that no one has said where the problems lies; the coach. I’ve said at the end of last season that Hill will not last past round 10 but I’m prepared to revise this prediction to when the rabble returns from RSA and Perth where they will be slaughtered by the Western Force.

    Hill has no game plan, the team is poorly drilled, they lack discipline and the strategy to get the club to this juncture is abysmal. They have two destructive players, in O’Connor and Beale, who they are better off without. At least Beale has given the club an opportunity to sack him, though it saddens me that a player with so much talent has been wasted because Hill doesn’t have the balls to bring him and the JOCe into line. Seriously, playing the JOCe at 15? Which imbecile came up with that ill-considered idea and, worse, acting captain?

    I suggest keeping Beale but suspending (and fining) him for several weeks (or at least until the new coach is appointed), putting the JOCe in an attacking position and demand he score tries – no tries, no game the following week and, definitely, no captaincy duties. Certainly, revive his woeful career when he starts playing for the Rebels, not who he now plays for, number one.

    And, finally, pay whatever they need to get Huxley back from France so the Rebels can have a fullback who actually understands the tactics of the game and how to stop the opposition from scoring. Christ, I’d even appoint him coach. The team had some structure last year; this year none and it shows, game after game.

    • Beast

      The CEO should get sacked to oafter the Phipps debarkle!
      Huxley would not go back, he couldn’t wait to leave!

      • Persona Non Grata

        Maybe a new coach, a job coaching the back line, and the JOCe and Beale under control (or sacked) might lure him back. Huxley knew this would happen to the Rebels this year; a team can’t lose the backbone of its line-up and still expect to function, let alone win games.

        • nice guy

          they obviously won a lot of games when they had this “backbone”

        • Persona Non Grata

          nice guy? It doesn’t look like it with that woeful attempt at sarcasm. Try analysing the game and team before resorting to that.

          They let through less tries AND they scored more tries. They were far more competitive than this rabble.

          Sure, the JOCe is the highest point scorer, and another big, BUT they came from conversions, NOT tries. Why the JOCe is at full back is beyond reason because he is supposed to a pivotal play maker and try scorer BUT he isn’t doing either. In fact, he lets through more tries than Huxley and is less accurate in conversions so his placement at 15 is a huge negative for the team. (The real reason he is there is because he wants to be; Hill may be a nice guy but he doesn’t have the balls to do what is necessary.)

    • USARugger

      The fact that he is even allowed within a meter of open booze is a definite display of a complete lack of spine by the Rebels administration in handling their players, or at least their “stars”. Seriously, after the multiple instances in the past 8 months alone he should have been on a strict drink ban.

    • Catchphrase Jones

      I’m with you on Hill, the dribble about JOC is ridiculous and the Huxley love is insane. He was genuinely terrible for the Rebels almost every single week. Don’t think I’ve ever been more glad to see a player leave.

  • Piggy

    I’m just trying to work out how this will get blamed on Quade…

    :-)

  • daz

    You know that moment when you see something happen in real time, and you just instantly know you are looking at one of the day’s news headlines, so you try to get the person who has become a walking news story to back-peddle to reduce the damage?
    Yeah, that.

    • nice guy

      You are such a good bloke…your 15 mins no doubt

  • SubjectZero

    Anyone else having Matt Henjack vs. Saig Hare flashbacks?

    • Barbarian

      Saig Hare? Do you mean Haig Sare? I suppose both names are fairly nonsensical.

      • SubjectZero

        That’d be the one. I might need to curb the post-pub commenting!

  • Nutta

    Big ups to GAGR – every news site both domestic and O/S I have seen today on this story is crediting/acknowledging you guys as breaking the story and grabbing the twits prior to deletion.

    Making a mark beyond the ramblings of the localised village idiots (myself amongst them)…

    In terms of the individual alleged to be at the centre of the whole series of allegations, honestly, who is THAT surprised to hear something like this (alleged)?

    My dad used to allegedly say “Boy, stupidity knows no station or rank”

  • Homer J

    Why was Beale even over there, isn’t he out for four weeks? Also what happened to the no drinking when injured rule?
    The fact that they got pasted by 60 and then thought they deserved a night out says a lot about the team.
    I love the photo above of Gits giving it to KB. Only one of them should be in the Wallabies, but Dingo has his favourites and chased the other one away, despite having more leadership and professionalism than KB could have in three life times.

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