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The Tuesday Top 5

The Tuesday Top 5

We’re baaaaack! Yes, like the rest of the world, we isolated ourselves. Then we took a peek outside and decided to stay hidden away a little longer because we didn’t much like what we saw. But things are on the up, rugby is back in Oz and hopefully soon we will all be able to go see our teams in person. But here we are, ready to get back in the swing of things. So sit back, brace yourselves and get ready for the Tuesday Top 5!

Week 1 Summary

Well in my opinion it was a pretty successful start to the Super Rugby AU season. Friday night kicked us off with a game many expected the Reds to run away with, especially given the number of changes to the Tahs side. But the young Tahs really pushed hard and I think caught the Reds off guard at times. It wasn’t a spectacular showing by either team, but after months of no training, and training in limited numbers before being able to go into full contact training as a team, it really shouldn’t come as a surprise that things were a bit rusty. There were really good signs from both teams.

Likewise, the Brumbies and Rebels both looked a bit rusty. The Brumbies had scrum and handling issues and the Rebels also had trouble keeping hold of the ball and making tackles (27 missed tackles). But there was some great attack on show, especially from the Brumbies and they put on some good tries. The Rebels kept themselves in the game right until the end, but the lead they gave the brumbies in the first half was just too much.

Based on the two matches we have seen so far, I think it could be a close season. This weekend will tell us more when the Reds play the Rebels, and I am looking forward to seeing the Force in action again.

Liam Wright goes for the try QLD Reds v NSW Waratahs 2020 Photo Credit QRU Brendan Hertel

Across the ditch

Over in New Zealand, the comp has been going for a few weeks now and two teams are starting to really show they are the front runners. Luckily, those two teams meet this weekend. The Crusaders, let’s face it, it seems impossible to talk about top teams in New Zealand and not mention them, are showing they are still a force to be reckoned with. New (ish) faces like Will Jordan are making a huge impact and they are going into the round 4 match undefeated. The team they will face, The Blues, are also undefeated. Yes, the same Blues who finished bottom of the New Zealand table last year, are undefeated and playing some very good rugby. This weekend the Blues and Crusaders will face off, and wouldn’t it be a great game for Dan Carter to make his debut for the Blues?

The other surprise package of Super Rugby Aotearoa is the Chiefs. They are the only team to have played all other 4 teams, and are yet to win a game. After starting off with a narrow defeat at the hands of the Highlanders (thanks to the son of the new Chiefs coach), they are yet to really hit the mark. Most of their losses have been close, a try or less, but they are struggling to make it work, which must be concerning to coach Gatland.

In the middle of the field we have the Highlanders and Hurricanes. Not much is separating them at the moment, both having beat the Chiefs but gone down to the Blues and Crusaders. They play each other this weekend and should give us an idea of where they each sit in the scheme of things.

Akira Ioane passes

Akira Ioane passes

New Laws

This weekend saw the first use of the new laws that have been brought in. So … what did we think? Yay or nay?

Look, I don’t want to go too much into my opinion of the new laws, but I do want to take a moment to consider the effects of said law changes down the line. Let’s have a look at how the law changes here and across the ditch compare.

Super Rugby AU

Super Rugby Aotearoa

Goal Line Drop-out – When an attacking player carrying the ball is held up in the in-goal or knocks the ball on or when a kick enters the in-goal area and is forced by the defending teamA kick originating in the attacking 22m area cannot be marked by the defending team within their own 22m area. The kick can however be marked within the defending team’s in-goal area and play restarts with a 22m line drop- out

Red Card – A red carded player can be replaced after 20 minutes (If all substitutions have been used the Red Carded player cannot be replaced)

50/22 – A kick taken from within the defending team’s 50m area that travels into touch within the opposition’s 22m area having first bounced in the field of play results in a lineout throw to the kicking team

22/50 – A kick taken from within the defending team’s 22m area that travels into touch within the opposition’s 50m area having first bounced in the field of play results in a lineout throw to the kicking team

Super Time – (2 x 5min periods of extra time) in the event of a drawn game after regulation time where the first points scored wins the match for the scoring team


Golden point extra time – first team to score in a 10 minute period after full time winsRed Card – Players who receive a red card can be replaced with another player 20 minutes after they are sent from the field.

Regarding the changes to the breakdown –  According to NZR National Referee Manager Bryce Lawrence “We’re not changing the laws of the game, we’re being stricter about how we referee them.”

The key focal points for the referees at the breakdown are:

* Ball carriers will be allowed only one dynamic movement after being tackled.

* Crawling, or any secondary movement other than placing or passing, will be penalised.

* Tacklers will be expected to roll away immediately in the direction of the side-line. This will be a referee’s “number one priority” at the tackle.

* There will be “extra focus” on the offside line with defenders expected to be “clearly” onside to provide attacking teams more space.

There are definitely more changes to the Aussie game. I saw a report on the ABC say that the new laws were to try and get more league fans interested, as they are essentially a variation on league laws. Whether this is the case or not, I’m still on the fence about them. But I risk digressing …

In NZ they haven’t made too many changes, but referees have been told to apply the laws more strictly. This resulted in a lot of penalties in the early rounds as players and refs both adjusted, but we are seeing that number drop. And this is where I am looking to the future. While over here we are practicing kicks to touch that will gain us an advantage on the field, and trying to remember what happens if we ground the ball in goal (you could actually see Tom Wright look a little unsure at one point on Saturday night), over in New Zealand they are practicing being absolutely precise at the breakdown in both attack and defence.

So which laws will be applied during the Bledisloe? The ones we are training at or the “normal” laws which the Kiwis are currently perfecting?

Events of the “break”

Being our first Top 5 after everything that happened in the mid-year, forced mini off-season, I thought it might be interesting to look back on it quickly, and see what, if any, run on effect it has had on the view of the fans.

The biggest event would have to be the mess around Castle, the letter and the part that certain sides of the media played in the whole mess. Oh and Phil Kearns.

While a lot of people were just glad to have rugby back, if social media was anything to go by the fans have not forgotten about what happened, and have definitely not forgiven. For years there have been complaints about the “commentary” of Kearns. I am hesitant to call it commentary as it often resorts to “cheering on” if the Tahs are playing, and he spends little time actually calling what is happening, he prefers to give his opinion on what he thinks should be happening.

And judging by what I saw over the weekend, I am not alone. Social media was ablaze with criticism of our pal Phil. From his negativity to his referee bashing to his unhidden bias for the Waratahs, it was all on display and noticed by the fans. Seriously, open twitter and type Phil Kearns in the search box! Here are just a couple out of the many, many tweets that popped up.

There is even a petition going

Kearns has never been the most popular commentator. But have the events over the break made him even less popular? It seems to me the hate is just a little bit stronger, the outcry a little louder. No doubt it won’t change anything, but having Kearns in the commentary box, especially during Waratahs matches, is a great way for Fox Sports to lose the few remaining rugby fans they have left.

Top Tries NZ and AU

  • Nutta

    Cheers MST.

    I agree with much of your sentiment that with a lot of new faces and a long lay-off, the 1st weekend of matches was pretty sweet. That plus simply being happy to have it back made it worth the watching. Like we saw with the Kiwi’s, a few weeks to settle in and it will be cracking footy I reckon.

    Great to see so many new faces getting a shot.

    I find the refereeing approach of the NZ’ers quite refreshing – nothing new, just ref what’s already there and stick to it. I’m not so impressed with the Oz variations particularly in-terms of the drop-out. As a front-rower who is sensitive to driving mauls off lineouts being ‘held up’, I worked for that 5m scrum. I want my 5m scrum. I think rewarding the defenders with a drop-out for failing to defend their line is counter-intuitive. But anyways…

    Kearns, well he’s the poor-mans Eddie McGuire for sure. Each is an embarrassment for their code in their current incarnations.

    • I think the drop out for the held up is the one I really don’t mind. The defenders work really hard to disrupt your drive, get a body in there and under the ball, and they deserve the reward. The other two seem a bit odd to me. You force the player back over the line carrying the ball… and they get a drop out? Ouch.

      I don’t think we’ve seen enough of the other laws to judge their impact, so I’ll stay neutral for the time being.

      However, like you, I like the Kiwi’s approach. I think it’s making the game look clean and fast, and although it took a while for everyone to adjust and work out their roles under the new interpretations, it’s looking really good.

    • KwAussie Rugby Lover

      Mate I’m with you. Not a fan of the new law variations and I don’t think it’ll either make league supporters watch the game or prepare the players for games later in the season. I don’t agree with the goal line drop out at all or the no mark. The first one doesn’t give either the defender or attacker enough and appears to be just a sop to mongol ball and the second one just encourages shit kicking as there’s no punishment for kickers stuffing it up. Stupid ideas to try and make the game better for people who don’t like rugby and just friggen dumb

    • ATrain

      He may be the rich man’s (from Mossman) Eddie McGuire

      • Nutta

        Whilst Eddie may be the President of Collingwood, I don’t think he lives there… that said, Toorak median house price is $3.35m vs Mosman at $3.55m so you may be right.

        • ATrain

          some pretty astute work on comparative housing values Nutta

        • Nutta

          Dr Google. It was on the interwebs so it can’t be wrong yeh?

  • Sundown

    That NZ try of the week is a very fast piece of work. How do they learn to play so fast.

    • idiot savant

      Smiths pass from the breakdown is lightning.

  • Timbo

    regardless of what you think of Kearns, He’s been off the park for years but still looks like he could run out in a 4th/3rds match.

    • Nutta

      I heard somewhere a long time ago he wasn’t a bad swimmer. I think he had ankle or tendon issues so spent a lot of time in the water for rehab?

      • Timbo

        Well compare his physique to that of Drew Mitchell…

        I don’t think Kearnsies fitness is purely swimming

        He does tend to run off at the mouth, but as a role model as an ex-player in a physical sense, exceptional

        • idiot savant

          Is that you Wiggsy?

      • Brisneyland Local

        I was surfing at Noosa one day, and he paddled out on his board and joined everyone out there. He was pretty fit. And to be honest seemed a decent enough bloke. Pity when he picks up a commentary microphone we just want to hang him.

        • ATrain

          I sat with him at a presentation night and thought much the same as you have said – a pretty decent bloke. I also agree re: the commentary.

        • Brisneyland Local

          It is a real juxstaposition. I want to like the guy because the guy I met was a really nice guy. then he openshis mouth on Fux and I want to stab myself in the eye for thinking that!

        • ATrain

          Be kind to yourself Bris…stab him in the eye instead

        • Brisneyland Local

          Good point well made!

  • John Tynan

    Noice to have youse back, MST’s

  • KwAussie Rugby Lover

    Thanks MST and great to have you back. I must admit I thought having rugby back was great and I’m not too concerned with the rustiness of the players. They’ll get better as the season develops and I think NZ was the same. I’m not a fan of the new laws at all and I think they will just make it harder for the Wallabies later on.
    Kearns really is a waste of space. Offers no analysis, no flow on the game and inane comments that don’t match what’s happening. Plus his knowledge of the laws seems really poor. Still he provides some laughs and that’s at least something

  • idiot savant

    Now listen MST, all of those passes from the Reds were forward. All of them. Even the ones that went backwards. Especially them. And carding a front rower is ridiculous. Its not as if a Tahs prop is going to keep collapsing a scrum to stop the Reds from scoring. And the Reds were offside all night. Even when they were behind the last feet. The only two line outs the Reds won were because the throws were crooked. Blind Freddy could’ve seen that. And all of the Reds turnovers were illegal, they came in sideways, even when they came through the gate. And they weren’t supporting their bodyweight. The invisible man was keeping them on their feet. Couldn’t you see that? And Hooper had 15 turnovers that Berry missed. Where would the game be without my ability to provide neutral unbiased commentary….


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