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Thursday’s Rugby News sees the launch of the 2020 Super W season, the broadcasting agreement that won over Shute Shield rugby, Tahs and Rebels ring the changes, and the Reds make a profit.


 

Super W 2020 Launched

Centre Sarah Riordan passes QLD Reds Womens Training Photo Credit Brendan Hertel / QRU

The third season of the Super W competition was launched in Canberra yesterday with players to remain unpaid.

Raelene Castle praised the success of the Super W but challenged players to continue to lift the standard.

“The success of the competition has also led to the double-digit growth of female participation over the last two years as the competition grows, and we expect to see this number continue to rise,” she said.

“The challenge for the class of 2020 is to back it up and go one better and grow the standard of competition evermore.

“These athletes (play) an exciting, fierce brand of rugby which has captured the imagination of fans and we’re looking forward to seeing what’s in store in season three,” Castle said.

Six games will be played as double-headers with Super Rugby games in Canberra, Melbourne, Sydney, and Brisbane and be broadcasted on Fox Sports. All other games in the season will be available on Rugby.com.au and Kayo.

The competition kicks off this weekend, with the Rebels hosting the Tahs in the first double-header at AAMI Park in Melbourne. The Brumbies then host Rugby WA Women at GIO Stadium on Saturday ahead of the Brumbies-Highlanders Super Rugby clash.


Reds report profit

Brad Thorn coaching Reds

The Queensland Reds will be able to report a $32,000 net profit at next month’s Annual General Meeting.

Although a modest profit, it comes with more than 95% of its operating profit spent on the depreciation of its Ballymore home.

The ageing facility has been a financial burden on the club for some time, but relief is on its way with the Federal Government pledging $15 million towards the development of the National Rugby Training Centre (NRTC) at Ballymore.

The QRU are still working with the State Government to see a $15 million contribution to the project which will rejuvenate Ballymore into a state-of-the-art facility.

QRU chief executive David Hanham said Ballymore will be a destination the rugby community could be proud of.

“We’ll begin this work by delivering the NRTC, which will have training space for more than 80 elite rugby players as well as our academy, game development and community staff and other programs,” Hanham said.

Last year, the Reds reported a $1.09 million loss after the failure of collapsed property group Majella to honour a seven-figure sponsorship. Furthermore, payments to James Slipper, Quade Cooper, and Karmichael Hunt numbered $366,000.

However, with the Reds resigning a number of homegrown talent and the support of the Federal Government to redevelop Ballymore the future is beginning to look bright.


The broadcasting deal that won over Shute Shield

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Tom Decent of the Sydney Morning Herald is reporting that a $1.45 million deal over five years for club rugby rights has won over the Shute Shield administration.

The deal would see the competition receive $450,000 in the first year and $250,000 each year thereafter until 2024. This is an increase compared to the current deal worth $150,000 per year.

RA also said it would cover the production costs involved in broadcasting the competition and pledge $150,000 per year in marketing and advertising to promote the Shute Shield.

A RA spokesman said: “Rugby Australia has today made further progress on bringing Sydney’s Shute Shield competition into its ‘whole of rugby’ media rights package from 2021 after reaching an agreement with the competition’s broadcast partner, Seven. Positive discussions have also continued with Club RUgby TV.”

Castle has also remained optimistic that Fox Sports would come to the table over broadcasting negotiations.

“Unfortunately we couldn’t get to a place we were both comfortable with, so now we’re in tender and we would expect that as a market process, they would step into that process.


Tahs, Rebels ring changes

Photo Credit Brendan Hertel / QRU

Photo Credit Brendan Hertel / QRU

With the Tahs and Rebels both yet to win a game the coaches have ringed the changes to improve the side’s fortunes.

Halfback Ryan Louwrens replaces Fiji international Frank Lomani to partner Matt To’ouma in the halves.

Richard Hardwick has been named at openside flanker, while Campbell Magnay will start at No.13 shifting Hodge to the wing.

Meanwhile, Tahs coach Rob Penney has elevated Junior Wallabies prop Angus Bell and Wallaby Jack Maddocks to the starting side for the first time.

Penney spoke glowingly about the young prop.

“Angus is an outstanding prospect. When you’re considering putting a young guy into a starting position, and the front row in particular, it is about their physical and mental ability to cope and Angus has proved over the last couple of weeks that he is more than capable.”

Cameron Clark has also been brought into the side for his first game of the season with Mark Nawaqanitawase dropped to the bench, while Alex Newsome replaces Foketi at outside centre.


 

  • AllyOz

    A fair bit on the TV negotiations again this morning and the Australia has a story on plans for the NRC to be dissolved after this season and replaced with a two division NCC with all sides from Brisbane and Sydney participating.

    Division One
    Sydney Uni (Syd)
    GPS Old Boys (Bris)
    Warringah (Syd)
    Brothers (Qld)
    Eastwood (Syd)
    UQ (Bris)
    Northern Suburbs (Syd)
    Canberra Vikings (ACT)
    Manly (Syd)
    Eastern Suburbs (Syd)
    Randwick (Syd)

    Division Two
    Wests (Bris)
    Gordon (Syd)
    Souths (Bris)
    Parramatta (Syd)
    Southern Districts (Syd)
    Bond Uni (Bris)
    West Harbour (Syd)
    Sunnybank (Bris)
    Norths (Bris)
    Easts (Bris)
    Melbourne/Penrith (Syd/Melb)

    It appears to indicate that this new set up would run for the full season (ie replace the Shute Shield and Hospital Cup) from 2021. There is plans for promotion and relegation.

    All available Wallabies would drop back into the Club comp when available.

    It certainly addresses the issues that I raised yesterday about ensuring all players got games but then, with two divisions, will they be encouraging higher level players into those higher division teams.

    BUT

    The costs of travel will be substantial. Depending on how the comp is arranged you potentially have more flights than the NRL. Rugby squads are bigger for one (23 vs 17) and you have roughly the same numbers in Brisbane as Sydney whereas the NRL has 9 of its 16 teams in driving distance (though the flights to Melbourne and Townsville are longer).

    The other issue for me is player availability and this was something that was identified when Brisbane, Newcastle and Canberra had a first go at doing something on a National basis in the early 00s. There are a lot of very good players who are happy to play club rugby at the Premier level but also have pretty solid commitments outside with work etc. So if you are finishing your work week then heading out to Brisbane Airport, catching a plane to Sydney, then flying back Saturday night or Sunday morning you start to cut out quite a few blokes who might (1) have a higher profile career (2) heavy study commitments (3) a young family (4) are keener on the social side but are still Premier Grade standard. So I think, while its a great idea, quite a few blokes might not want to play in a national comp and that might impact on the quality and some teams being able to field a decent team.

    • Yowie

      The costs of travel will be substantial. Depending on how the comp is arranged you potentially have more flights than the NRL. Rugby squads are bigger for one (23 vs 17)

      Can they save a few dollars by stuffing the No 9 in the overhead luggage compartment? Over a whole season the savings would add up.

      • Hoss

        Should be doing that anyone. Uppity little turds. One gave me lip once and said ‘i would never catch him’ – he quietened down a bit when i said ‘yeah, but i’d only have to catch you once’.

        • Keith Butler

          Nice one.

      • AllyOz

        I’m with Hoss. This should be standard practice. And, with some of the Brisbane teams at least, a lot of them already work loading planes at the Airport anyway so there are savings to be made. Also 10s will spend most of the flight prettying themselves up in the toilets so we may as well not book them a seat and just let them stay in there the whole flight.

        at the risk of, what are we calling it now, “provoking analysis”, I can understand now why it was so important to keep Qantas onside. Izzy had to go.

        • Yowie

          The 10s might be able to fake it as flight attendants if they are prepared to be mostly standing and push trolleys around during the flight?

        • overlooking the point 10s cant push?

        • AllyOz

          good thinking….not as if they have to save their energy for tackling the next day

        • Yowie

          Just like the old No 10 saying “Why keep a fullback but tackle yourself?”

      • Keith Butler

        Much as I like the idea, would the 9 have to be dismembered and distributed among he mates carryon luggage to avoid excess weight fines and then stitched back together on arrival?

        • Yowie

          yeah, but who’s going to volunteer to carry a yapping head in their bag?

        • Keith Butler

          Duct tape – simples.

        • Damo

          Yep. First piece is the ego. That’s over the 7kg carry on limit right there.

    • dru

      You can’t have it both ways! NRC did a lot to overcome most/many of your “cons” but it did not build tribalism nor gain support in NSW. Like it or not NSW is a key plank here.

      I would imagine that the relegation thing will put paid to the broader logistics but may take time. The comp would pick up on the calls to tribalism and use of the traditional clubs, but does little for a step between club and Super.

      I’ll be getting behind it but saddened to see the end of NRC if this is the case.

      • AllyOz

        I also wonder if the tribalism is transferable. I will turn up to Brothers vs GPS and you might turn up to Rats v Manly (not wanting to put words in your mouth just and example) but will people turn up for Brothers vs Rats?? I guess we will have to wait and see.

        • Yowie

          Rats v Manly

          That bitter clash between the Silvertails and the, er, Silvertails.

        • AllyOz

          t-shirts and scarves at 10 paces

        • Damo

          And where are we up to with boat shoes? Are they in or out? Keep looking at my 80’s pair (when I worked for a company that pretty much didn’t do anything except wheel and deal- until it crashed) and wondering if I can bring them out.

        • Geoffro

          Boat shoes out,mankles in (even since they’ve gone from bein wanksta to gangsta and banned from posh establishments….-like yer local pub)

        • AllyOz

          If you have boat shoes and you worked in the financial services industry you need to be on Raelene’s negotiating team.

        • Ads
        • Yowie

          gold

        • Hoss

          Oh the humanity.

        • Keith Butler

          Absolute class.

        • Geoffro

          v Gordon,vNthn Subs,vEasts,v Uni,etc.Dont think there is a non slivertail (sic) rugby mob in Sinney is there

        • Damo

          I don’t know. A Headline reading “Rats looking forward to getting stuck into the Filth this Saturday” should attract a big crowd.

    • Ads

      Are they making a division 3 for the Force?

      • AllyOz

        Well I am sure, and rightly so, that some of our GAGRWA brethren will point out that this is an ECCC not an NCC.

        Actually I think Twiggy could be a game changer in all this. I am not sure exactly what role he might end up playing but it could be decisive.

        • No need to point out much.

          Back in the day AFL was just VFL.
          Whatever will be will be.

          Maybe RA shall rebrand again to something more fitting.

        • Frosty morning

          Perhaps teams from the Pacific Islands could join… then the competition would be international and Rugby Australia could be rebranded to International Rugby Australia… the IRA … oh, wait…

        • JJ

          You are quite right there AllyOz. This should be called Eastern Australia club rugby compeition or even just the Syd/Bris Rugby competion. 11 clubs from Syd and 9 from Bris.
          Also I wonder how Canberra fans will feel about being restricted to one token club.
          And yes, the cashed up GRR which is not owned by the RA (soon to renamed ERA) can now justify starting clubs in regions excluded. So Syd/Bris will become a stepping stone for their semi-pro players to pick up full-time GRR contracts.

          Dont complain ERA and Syd/Bris, you started the war.

        • MNIMD

          I don’t think Canberra could field 2 competitive teams, we’d rather have one dominant one ;).

          But any chance to bring back the Kookaburras is something i would go for!! it would create a fierce local derby and would be a great game… Although I doubt the Vikings would have much of a following…

        • JJ

          MNIMD,What happened last time ACT had a dominant team in the Shute Shield?
          These Syd/Bris boys dont like real competition. When the Force started beating the Tahs and Reds on a regular basis they kicked us out of Super. Now that the Force dominate NRC, they will just shut down NRC.
          On a side note,I see the Force are playing a pre-season friendly against Eastwood next week.That should be interesting.

    • RF

      Don’t know if it is financially viable but it sure is exciting.

      Could this be the future for Oz, and go back to the state sides being representative teams?

      • Perth girl

        Back to the future hey RF “Stronger as two”. As exciting as being bitten by a horse fly!

    • Reds Revival

      To me, (I put the comma in there just for you, Hoss), it looks like Sydney got their way and everyone else misses out. Qld had actually made NRC work well for them, as had ACT, and it appeared that Melbourne were starting to use it well to develop their local talent.

      The only positive to this is that hopefully SRU and NSWRU will finally get on board with the rest of Australia (mainly by shutting everyone else out, but that is a minor detail).

    • Wato

      I had an idea the other day that might work.
      Keep the Shute Shield and Hospital Cup as is and play a European Cup style competition with the top 4 (2 pools of 4) from each comp qualifying for the following season. You could include teams from interstate as well. This would allow some cross over between the states and potentially have a best vs best scenario

    • juswal

      I always assumed that player availability and the cost airfares were the reasons why a national club comp was out of the question. Playing first grade is a big time commitment already. I wouldn’t assume that every player wants the semi-pro lifestyle.

    • Brumby Runner

      Hooray! Can’t wait for a competition that has not one jot of interest to me and has no foundation for thinking it will prepare players for SR involvement. Giant step backwards for rugby-kind.

      • Reds Revival

        Massively agree BR, I think ACT should feel hard done by here. As one of the most successful Super Rugby franchises, they only get 1 team in the (supposed) National Club Championship.

        • Perth girl

          As the winner of the last NRC how do you think the Force feel? This is not a National competition

        • Reds Revival

          Yep, completely agree PG! Fortunately, you have GRR which will outshine the Syd/Bris club comp. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if there were other regions around Australia who will be lining up to join Twiggy’s comp.

      • Keith Butler

        Not clear to me if this deal would provide cash to the clubs. If so it sounds to me similar to our beloved PM making sure the top end of town don’t lose out while the rest of us can take a running jump.

  • KwAussie Rugby Lover

    Thanks Hamish,
    I still think the continual rotation of players in the Rebels is one of their biggest problems. It smacks of a coach not having faith in his own selections and unsure of what the best combinations are. Maybe he needs to just pick a team and then work to develop it. This seems to flow down to the players where they don’t seem confident in what they’re doing. It’s hardly a surprise that they’re struggling.
    Good to see the ladies get more time. I think they’re developing well although it’d be nice if they were compensated a bit more.
    I personally hope the rumours about NRC disappearing are false. I agree the competition needs a revamp to get more buy in from the supporters but it’s a step above club rugby that is needed to develop players and if it goes it’ll be bad for Australian rugby

    • Hoss

      Bang on KARL. Its like firing your way too business success. One day you look round, see nothing but worried staff and wonder why the culture when arse-up ?

      Now excuse me – got another lynching to attend…….

      • Steve

        “The beatings will continue until morale improves”

    • Kevino

      Rebels coach would have a better idea about combos if Rebels players not on international duty had played NRC, and he had played more than 40 min with his first string in preseason trials.

      • Keith Butler

        Also dead right K, he should have had 90% of his run on team inked in for game 1.

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        Bang on mate. It’s like today I’ll introduce you to the player next to you on Saturday

        • Yowie

          Last minute stuff can’t be that disruptive can it? KARL, from your military experience you’d be able to confirm the Hollywood thing that all briefings for difficult commando missions are done in the helicopter on the way in?

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          More like a plan only lasts until the first sho is fires. Make a plan and have options for when things go wrong

        • Hoss

          What did Iron Mike say – ‘everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face’

    • Keith Butler

      You are dead right KARL. Wessels needs to pick a team, stick with it and and allow it to develop. Player confidence will improve if they see the same faces next to them each week. Quite a few blokes in the replacements that I’ve never heard of but a quick check showed them to be young, early 20s. Let’s hope they are keepers and that Wessels doesn’t continue to follow the Rebels tradition of letting the goodun’s go. Normally doing other things on a Saturday arvo so have never really followed the NRC but agree with your sentiments. Don’t think I’ll be watching semi pro footy on the tv if I had the option of supporting my local club in the flesh as it were.

    • Happyman

      Mate it seemed like when he had no names at the Force he could just use his eyesight to pick on merit and did well.

      Now he has guys with a reputation and seems to doubt his selections. Perhaps also doubts his authority. Wes sells can coach he like many players just needs to back himself.

      The egg chasers use a term money plays. I suspect a player like say Hodge is on decent money so he gets a run even though his form is patchy.

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        I think you’re correct on doubting his selections and I wonder about his doubt on authority. The other issue is he almost walked away last year and I wonder how much that affected his confidence

  • Hoss

    Hamish, Hamish, Hamish.

    I don’t know what half-arsed, backwards yocal place the University of the Gong is, I’ve always considered it a poor mans Newcastle, but when i repeated 6th class a few times i learnt over and over to use correct grammar. To that end, the coaches have ‘rung’ (preterite) the changes, ‘he’ or ‘I’ may have ‘ringed’ the changes, but ‘they’ have ‘rung’ the changes.

    See me after class, we need to discuss career options – bring alcohol.

    Yours Truly
    Mr Hoss.

    • I think Tahs, Rebels rung changes would look and sound funky.

      • Hoss

        I hear you – here’s a snappy click-bait heading. ‘Run to bottom rung sees changes rung’

        • Yowie

          A proper clickbait heading would be something like “You wont believe what happened next when these female athletes found out they had malfunctioning bras on”

        • Hoss

          ‘5 things we learned………’

        • Izzy Folau said…

        • Hoss

          Sorry, bit of a stickler for facts today, so if you dont mind….’and the Lord said unto Israel’……

        • provocative insight as usual Hoss

        • Yowie

          Haha “dont shoot the messenger…..but the following f*ckers are going straight to hell”

        • AllyOz

          these days its perhaps “our five learnings” also teams to play each other any more, they its “we versed them”. Sounds like a poetry competition. We need more English teachers working as assistant coaches in our school games obviously.

        • Yowie

          Also, at the risk of dragging up old comments, surely the correct plural terms for players in certain positions is “scrums-half”, “flys-half”, “Backs-full” and so on in the style of “Governors-General”.

        • Andrew Luscombe

          So you reckon we have four three man scrums, each like in sevens, one scrums-half to feed all of them in turn, a flys-half for him to pass to, and a backs-full to round out the 15? 4 balls on the field might make for difficult refereeing.

        • Yowie

          that’s why you have ten on-field referees (plus 100 TMOs).

        • Hoss

          my new fave corp / weasel speak is ‘in this space’. WTF does that mean ?? Ist’ just filling the air with vapid BS corp jargon. Attended a BS corp thingy last week and one presenter said it ad-nausea. So i designed a drinking game (played later – after the day. One must maintain a modicum of decorum). I called it ‘shit faced – in this space’. Each time he said ‘in this space’ a party member was required to imbibe straight Scottish Water of Life and around the table we went. Rather shit faced ‘in this space’ we were by games end.

        • Damo

          As Barry, Robin and Maurice once said, “It’s only words, and words are all I have…”

        • AllyOz

          Do you have (or have you had perhaps more appropriately) any employees who refer to themselves as “creatives”. Our Communications Manager referred to “getting in touch with her “creative team” and “we creatives”…..she previously mentioned being in the “creative space” and I immediately thought of a sandpit.

        • Hoss

          What times we live in mate.

          I often pop on to Seek just to chuckle at the job titles available. It seems no one has a normal role any more, they are ‘Coordinators’ or ‘Customer Experience Delivery Experts’ or ‘Service Enhancement Experts’ or ‘Culture Managers’. So next time you have a soup and a coffee at the local cafe, bow & be penitent, you have just been in the presence of a ‘Customer Experience Delivery Expert’ and you should be grateful it was only 10 minutes late, under-cooked and decidedly underwhelming but still, you should be in awe.

          Exhibit A – My SIL is a mover and shaker in Sydney & last year my FIL got a well-deserved OAM so after the ceremony she had organised a dinner at some flash food joint in the Quay – great views, even greater price. It was the latest ‘it’ place, with yet another TV ‘food monkey’ chef who was on tv and was the current ‘it’ chef (meaning he hadn’t paid staff for 18 months, had shelf companies in the Cayman’s and generally just an ‘A-Grade’ turd). Anyhow, after 5 course of puree each involving the head waiter guy leaning over and whispering in hushed tones the secret and the ‘back story’ of the recipe and how the ‘it’ chef prepared it – i’d had enough, that and the $25 / glass whisky had kicked in, so i took over. The next pureed something that arrived at our table (all looked like puddles of pigeon shit by the way) the waiter leaned in to begin the story and transfix us with tales of yore and i interjected ‘let me guess. ‘IT’ chefs great-great grandmother smuggled the beans for the plants used in yet another puree, in her arse-crack out of Auschwitz. Then after surviving a sinking ship during a torrid South Pacific storm she was washed ashore at Cook Town. There, surviving on mango and paw-paw for three months she fashioned a small canoe, from a much bigger one and eventually made it to Bowral where she duly planted the seeds. Its the 3rd generation of the chefs family that now harvests the plant from the very same spot today……….’ The guy was mortified that i would mock and laugh at the complete and utter pretence that he drolled out and that, more generally, ‘we’ accept in society today. Its mainstream bullshit that just proliferates and becomes ‘the norm’ – hence my piss take on here on rare occasion. To finish off – the same head waiter looked mortified when i finished with ‘ mate, you are charging us $800 / head for this, my next dish better have had parents……..and taste a lot like beef. You could here the panic in the kitchen and the sheer disdain that someone had called time of the complete and utter farking crap.

        • AllyOz

          I am glad I prompted that rant. It’s made my day. The only thing that could top it off would be if I could coathanger a “creative” in the corridor on the way home.

        • Hoss

          Set a trap.

          Place some sort of coffee containing soy in it, a low fat, high energy wafer bar (hand grown by vestal virgins in pristine Tibetan wilderness in a meditative / sustainable way that delivers ‘goodness’ back to the earth) and a ‘wellness magazine’ in the lunchroom and then wait. ‘Creative types’ from all over will be drawn to the place like flies to faeces and whammo………

        • AllyOz

          Now I am guess that salted caramel flavoured energy wafter would be flavoured with the Pink Himalayan Salt rather than just table salt wouldn’t it?

        • Hoss

          Derr!!

        • Geoffro

          there’s an editors job waiting for you at news.com

        • Yowie

          I applied, but they said I was over-qualified on account of completing year 8 at school.

          Also, not whacking their ALP/Greens-themed Piñata very hard when invited set the interview off on the wrong note.

        • Geoffro

          Yeah,when I applied I was rejected because I dressed to the left

        • Yowie

          as the saying goes “you must have left quite an impression”

        • Hoss

          You’re on fire today and seriously impacting my productivity

        • Yowie

          I better get back to it now that you mention it. These 737s aren’t going to air-traffic-control themselves.

        • Geoffro

          Well,a circle around a shot of my crotch and a byline of “Things you should never do at a job interview ” means I must have

        • Yowie

          Well,a circle an oval around a shot of my crotch and a byline of “Things you should never do at a job interview “…

          Corrected for consistency with the narrative.

        • Geoffro

          Comments section went crazy and I state categorically that I do not place fruit in my underwear

        • juswal

          Whadda we want?
          CLICKBAIT!
          When do we want it?
          THE ANSWER WILL SHOCK YOU.

      • juswal

        The headline is ‘Tahs, Rebels ring changes’ — no problem, it’s the present tense.

        The first line of the article should say ‘the coaches have rung the changes’ — past perfect tense.

        Present tense: I ring, he rings, they ring the changes.
        Simple past tense: I rang, he rang, they rang the changes
        Past perfect tense: I have rung, he has rung, they have rung the changes.

        What’s the difference between the simple past tense and the past perfect tense? In the simple past, the action was completed at a time in the past; in the past perfect, the action was completed in the past and the effects or implications are current. The past perfect appears in news reports a lot because it tells us that something has just happened and here’s what it means, as of now.

        • Yowie

          To save you clicking a link to a League comment page, I’ve pasted their comments on the tense/grammar issue below:-

          “…I woz, they woz, we woz…”

          (apologies to Henning Wehn)

        • juswal

          I’m glad you brang that up but I seen it already

    • Yowie

      Also, all this use of the word “relegation” instead of the correct term “un-promotion” (or whatever we figured out in the comments section last week).

      • Tah Tragic

        I believe the phrase was “unrelegated into the higher league” although I preferred Dud Roodt’s “de-un-promoted”

    • AllyOz

      ranged?

      • Hoss

        so an agent of change is a’wrangler’ ????

    • Mica

      Is “yocal” a portmanteau for local and yokel or are you just being ironic including this in a comment on sentence construction? :)

      • Hoss

        Last time something like this happened i tooked the fifth….

        • Mica

          Bourbon?? :)

  • Hoss

    In actual Rugby news, how is it Super W players will not get paid ???

    That can’t be right cannit ?

    If it is i am about to have RC and her team do the next round of Enterprise bargaining for me – my staff have been robbing me blind it seems.

    • Geoffro

      You probably have the same sheila that negotiated equal pay for playing three sets of tennis v five….(flame me and my mysoginist arse now, but just sayin)

      • Yowie

        Also, for the pro golfers, aren’t the ladies tees a little bit closer to the green?

        • Geoffro

          Bloody oath.Not just pros and ‘specially annoying when your missus can hit a ball twice as far as you

        • Yowie

          You just need to whip out the rule book and call penalty strokes on your missus for minor infractions (eg ball wobbling after setting up for a shot). Obviously it’s a sh!thouse car ride home after the game, but it’s a game of honour and rules are rules.

        • Geoffro

          hehe,’s’ok,my golfing skills are such that when Im halfway round (and half cut) I don’t usually give a rats – strictly a “social” player

    • Point taken Hoss, but “in this space…

      • Hoss

        And a ‘shot’ for my friend please

  • Hannes En Brianda Barnard

    Rugby Australia has given up on the pretence that they are a national governing body. Axing the NRC in favour of a NSW/QLD centric club competition was always expected. There is little hope for clubs outside the selected few to hold on to their players or incentives to develop their players especially if you are outside NSW and QLD.

    • Oh well Hannes,was expected eh?
      Heading down to welcome Eastwood to Perth this weekend and Newcastle Hunter RU on the 29th?
      That’ll be good enough for me.

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      Nah, RA hasn’t confirmed this.

      • Hannes En Brianda Barnard

        Yet…..

      • Hannes En Brianda Barnard

        yet

  • Pfitzy

    Some great discussion here about a national club comp.

    I particularly like the bit where we collectively put a bullet through the Premier Clubs who aren’t allowed into Division 1, and end their pathetic struggle.

    Everyone who has never had an association with any of the whiny, entitled Premier Clubs in Sydney will, I’m confident, flock to the banner of the local outfit, so they can watch yet another bunch of mismatches on a sandy wasteland, from the comfort of a tin shed.

    No, no – hear me out: the NRC couldn’t engender tribalism, but I’m sure navel-gazing Club Rugby will. Because Sydney Clubs are actually interested, when they’ve got a direct line to the cash.

    I’m really keen to see what we do with the other 6 teams (3 Grade, 3 Colts) at each of the Shute Shield clubs who are worthy to ascend to the National Club Competition. Any ideas? Anyone?

    I jest somewhat, but far more amusing are the old boys chanting “We won World Cups with Club Rugby!”. Genuine comedy. Keep it up.

    • KwAussie Rugby Lover

      I recognized the sarcastic font this time. Almost didn’t but got it

      • Pfitzy

        The true art of the big game hunter is understanding when he’s the predator, and when he’s prey.

    • Andrew Luscombe

      Agree that any plan to combine Shute Shield and Hospital Cup would just destroy both comps. They both need to stay.

      But that still gives time at the end of the season to play a short national club comp over 8-10 weeks. Groups of 4 or 5 with some knock out finals. All the current Sydney and Brisbane teams could play iwith a few extra purpose built teams from ACT, Melb, and Perth made out of non-wallabiy Super/Force playes plus some locals.

      Still not sure that it’s better than the NRC, but it’d be better than the season long two division suggestion.

      • Pfitzy

        Or just take the top X from each competition and make them play off over a month.

        Problem is: how do you organise finals in around that?

        • Andrew Luscombe

          The metropolitan comp finals can be two weeks – semis and final. Non finalists get a two week gap, then it’s the national championship. Seems workable.

  • Charcoal

    Is News Ltd just stirring the pot to create division between those on the inner and those on the outer? As far as I can see there’s nothing official about this alleged format. I agree that the travel and accommodation costs alone would sink it, let alone paying the players.

    A more palatable format may be for each of the State Premier competitions in Brisbane, Sydney, Canberra, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth to play their normal round robin season, followed by a Champions’ League played between the top two sides from each competition. The National Club Champion could be decided in a finals series, although there may be insufficient time for this, or on the basis of the club that finishes on top of the ladder, similar to the 6 Nations.

    Alternatively, the Champions League could be split into two conferences, with a Northern Conference consisting of Brisbane, Sydney and Canberra and a Southern Conference consisting of Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth. A Grand Final could be held between the respective conference champions, although I concede that this may not be viable with a possible imbalance in standards between the traditional and non-traditional Rugby States.

    If, as so far suggested, that it would be restricted to the Brisbane and Sydney Premier competitions, then the only viable format that I can visualise is for a finals series between the top 2 to 4 teams from each competition, dispensing with their individual finals series. Lower grades and Colts could continue to play their traditional finals series within their respective competitions.

    The downside to the format of a Club Champions’ League is that high quality players belonging to clubs which fail to make the cut for the finals, miss out on participating, which is one of the benefits of the NRC where all talented players have the opportunity. However, what will be will be and whatever the outcome, we have to support it.

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