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Thursdays Rugby News sees DHP sticking around, The Reds head to New Zealand, The title of “Dirtiest bloke in New Zealand Rugby”, and Michael O’Connor officially announced as third selector.

 

 


 

 

DHP COMMITS

Waratahs v Rebels 2018 1st Half-3

Melbourne Rebels captain Dane Haylett-Petty has broken the exodus trend and committed to Australian Rugby and the Melbourne Rebels until the end of 2021.

Haylett-Petty broke the news on Melbourne radio station SEN 1116 during an interview promoting rugby in Melbourne.

“I’ve really enjoyed my time in Melbourne since arriving last year,” stated Haylett-Petty.

“This environment has really helped me develop as a player on the field, and as a leader off the field.

“The intensity that we bring to training, the level of competition that exists within the clubhouse – everything we do here is geared towards to making us the best possible version of ourselves.

“I wanted to do what was best for my development as a rugby player, and that was to stay here in Australia and to continue my journey here at the Rebels and Wallabies.”

The 29 year old full back has played 31 test for the Wallabies, and will play an important part of the team heading into the World Cup later this year. Right now though, DHP is focused squarely on the Super Rugby season a head.

“There’s a special feeling around the Club at the moment. Just missing out on finals in 2018 really re-focused us as a group.

“You can feel it in every team meeting, every field session, every review; there’s a desire there to get better with everything we do.”

Rebels Coach Dave Wessels was happy with DHP signing one, saying  “I’ve been lucky enough to know Dane for a long time now. He’s a good man and works very hard to be the best he can be both on and off-field.

“We feel like we’ve got some really good people on the boat now and our goal is to keep this group together for the long term. Dane’s re-commitment is a big step in this process.”

DHP isn’t the only Rebel to recently recommit to the Melbourne club, with Dave Wessels also extending his contract to 2021.

Wallabies coach Michael Cheika said in a statement.

“Dane is a real competitor and has quickly stepped up to the standard of Test footy,”

“The outside backs are a really competitive position in our side and Dane often leads the way in how he prepares during the week and his commitment during games on the weekend.

“He’s had that experience overseas which has helped mature him as a footballer and I know how desperate he is to have a big part to play in the World Cup later this year.”

REDS HEAD TO DUNEDIN

Angus Blyth Reds v Chiefs trial 2019 (photo credit: QRU Media/Brendan Hertel)

Brad Thorn has opted to go with a Samu Kerevi Jordan Petaia combination in the centres against the Highlanders as he begins to solve the puzzle of his best combination at 12 and 13.

Captain Kerevi has moved to inside centre, pushing Duncan Paia’aua to the bench, and brings youngster Petaia in to 13 and pushes Chris Feauai-Sautia to the wing.

There was a chance of seeing a monster centre combination in Kerevi and Feauai-Sautia, but Thorn has rewarded Petaia’s efforts and hoping to see some of his flair rather than strength in the midfield.

Former Rebels Sefa Niavalu and Byrce Hegarty (also former Tah) will make their debuts in the maroon jersey on the wing and at full back respectively.

Souths prop Feao Fotuaika, who has made a massive transformation over the preseason has been rewarded with a start against the Highlanders.

Backrower Fraser McReight and back Isaac Lucas could also make their Super Rugby debuts after being named on the bench.

Meanwhile, the Highlanders have namedAll Blacks stars Waisake Naholo and Aaron Smith to the starting team that now boasts four All Blacks. 

There are five changes to the Highlanders starting team that beat the Chiefs with just 14 men, with flankers Shannon Frizell and Dillon Hunt added to the starting forward pack.

Teihorangi Walden will replace Thomas Umaga-Jensen at inside centre to round out the changes for the home side.

Reds

1. Feao Fotuaika 2. Brandon Paenga-Amosa 3. Taniela Tupou 4. Izack Rodda (vc) 5. Lukhan Salakaia-Loto 6. Angus Scott-Young 7. Liam Wright 8. Caleb Timu 9. Moses Sorovi 10. Hamish Stewart 11. Sefa Naivalu 12. Samu Kerevi © 13. Jordan Petaia 14. Chris Feauai-Sautia 15. Bryce Hegarty

Reserves

16. Alex Mafi 17. Harry Hoopert 18. Ruan Smith 19. Harry Hockings 20. Fraser McReigh 21. Tate McDermott 22. Duncan Paia’aua 23. Isaac Lucas

Highlanders

1. Ayden Johnstone 2. Liam Coltman 3. Tyrel Lomax 4. Jackson Hemopo 5. Josh Dickson 6. Shannon Frizell 7. Dillon Hunt 8. Luke Whitelock (cc) 9. Aaron Smith 10. Josh Ioane 11. Tevita Li 12. Teihorangi Walden 13. Rob Thompson 14. Waisake Naholo 15. Ben Smith (cc)

Reserves

16. Ash Dixon 17. Daniel Lienert-Brown 18. Siate Tokolahi 19. Jack Whetton 20. Marino Mikaele Tu’u 21. Kayne Hammington 22. Marty Banks 23. Matt Faddes

THE DIRTIEST BLOKE IN NZ RUGBY

moody beale

The title of the article would allude some to think it was written by an Australian, and there would be plenty of names that would come to mind for the title of “dirtiest bloke in New Zealand rugby”, but in fact the original article, posted in the NZ Herald takes aim at the referees inability to stand up to the Crusaders.

Author Chris Rattue, also dubs Joe Moody the dirtiest bloke in New Zealand Rugby.

Rattue tells of how watching the match at Eden Park reminded him of watching Sean Fitzpatrick play back in the day. A man whose gravitas helped him “rule the roost” of the field he was on.

The only problem was the boot was on the other foot, and it was the Crusaders who got away with murder at Eden park.

Rattue even compares the penally tries to that of a match between Fiji and the All Blacks: “If it had been Fiji on attack against the All Blacks at Eden Park, involving the exact same scenarios, both those tries would very likely not have been given. We all know that.”

The article highlights many cases of unfair, un-sportsman like, and even cynical acts of play that should have been penalised that ultimately were ignored, along with bizarre decisions that all went the way of the men from Christchurch.

He finishes his article with a simple message

“Message to referees: Don’t let the Crusaders take the whistle out of your mouth. The Crusaders are good enough already. They don’t need your help.”

The article highlights a subconscious favouritism shown towards champions, and every supporter of the opposition will tell you how said champions had the ‘rub of the green’ so to speak. 

What makes this more interesting is that as a kiwi, Rattue had highlight a bias towards the Crusaders, a championship New Zealand team, getting away with cynical play. Many at home and abroad would agree. 

Though when someone highlights that the All Blacks get similar treatment from match officials, we are treated with a James Franco like response of “they hate us because they ain’t us.” But is the reputation of power around NZ Rugby influencing officials?

Will this be a turning point for officials to acknowledge there is a difference between flirting with the line and breaking the line when it comes to teams playing against New Zealand?

 

O’CONNOR OFFICALLY BACK IN AUS RUGBY

No not that O'Connor, Michael O'Connor

No not that O’Connor, Michael O’Connor

It was covered in Tuesdays News that former Wallaby player and Sevens coach Michael O’Connor was expected to be announced as part of the new Wallabies selection committee, as the independent selector.

On Wednesday Rugby Australia made the announcement official, Michael O’Connor is back in the Australian Rugby fold.

O’Connor was a 12 cap Wallaby, who went on to achieve success in Rugby League, has worked in talent identification and coaching, playing a big part in growing Australian Mens Sevens, working with the likes of James O’Connor, Bernard Foley, Nick Cummins, Nick Phipps, Pat McCabe, Tevita Kuridrani, Lachie Turner and Liam Gill over the years.

He previously served as the independent Wallaby selector under John Connolly in 2006-07.

Rugby Australia CEO Raelene Castle said that RA interviewed many potential candidates but it was O’Connor’s experience and philosophy around selection that ultimately won him the role.

“We interviewed a number of quality candidates for the role and it was Michael’s approach and philosophy around selection that really stood out.” Castle said

“He brings to the table immense experience in talent identification as well as the perspective of having played at the highest levels and coached at international level and has performed a similar role for the Wallabies in the past.

“We believe Michael’s skills will compliment the skills of both Michael Cheika and Scott Johnson and create a very open and challenging selection environment in an important year for the Wallabies.”

As part of the announcement O’Connor made the following statement about returning to the Wallabies fold.

“I’ve gained a lot of different perspectives in over 20 years of involvement in Rugby at a local, national and international level and I feel privileged to be able to take on this role as a national selector. I’ve got a great passion for the Wallabies and I’m not taking this opportunity lightly, it’s a huge honour.

“I’m very much looking forward to working with Michael Cheika and Scott Johnson. I have worked with Johnno before with the Wallabies back in 2007 and while I haven’t worked with Michael previously I have followed his teams very closely throughout the years and I think I’ve got a very good understanding of how he likes his team to play.

“The most important thing in this role is understanding what the Head Coach is looking for, the way he wants to play and then finding the players that fit into that framework and having that discussion.

“I’m sure there will be some different ideas and perspectives thrown into the mix and at the end of the day, we all just want to see the Wallabies be successful.”

He took part in a longer interview with RUGBY.com.au that takes a deeper look at his insights, his beliefs around selection and even some of his ideas around combinations.

 

  • Hoss

    Golden Socks & the Three Bears

    Once upon a time there was a team of Golden Socks, decided on by three bears.

    Daddy bear was a firm believer in form and a team based on merit with specialist players in each spot.

    Mummy bear could see opportunity in giving new and deserving players a chance, based on form and the team dynamic.

    But baby bear knew what was best and told his parents to fuck right off and he would decide.

    ‘ I know’, he said with a burst – ‘ I will pick the third best 7 in Oz and make him captain and pay him 6 million dollars so he never leaves’.

    ‘Hmmmm’ said Daddy Bear ‘Wont that make the worlds premium 7 and a certain Golden Socks starter go to the pine, what about the next generation coming through, haven’t you also consigned us to losing them to O/S ?’

    ‘No’ said baby bear’ – ‘I can play that other 7 entirely out of position at 8’ said Baby ‘and besides, my 7 plays for the best team in the world – so screw everyone else’

    ’But son’ said mummy bear, ‘wont that disrupt the entire side, after all, remember Newtons third law of physics about every action having an equal, yet opposite, reaction ?’

    At this point, baby Bear was festering and ready to go nuclear.

    ‘How dare they !’ he fumed inside.’ I liked it better when Aunty Raelene said I was her favourite and I could do what I want. She didn’t even get mad when I ran over Steven in that bus and I could keep my very best play friends, Simon, Mick & Nathan, even though they are a bit slow, but I like them around to remind me of how smart I am.

    At this point mummy & daddy bear wondered what they had gotten in for and looked into adoption avenues, but alas, it was too late.The Ellis family reunion was in September and they had already RSVP’d to say they were coming.

    Over the next few weeks mummy & daddy bear did all they could to ween baby bear off his favourites – all to no avail. Baby bear outsmarted them and even coached for losses so he could say – ‘look what you made me do mummy & daddy, I couldn’t win with those new toys you gave me, I need my old toys back’

    It seemed baby bear was far too clever for mummy and daddy bear and the lack of discipline from Aunty Raelene had bred a monster.

    ‘Oh well’ said mummy & daddy bear’, ‘at least we can get rid of this little prick after September as we will be home early from the family reunion and can replace baby bear with another – that’s just right’

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      I am so glad I put my coffee down and swallowed before reading that. Gold my friend just gold.
      I actually think it’ll play out that way too

      • Huw Tindall

        Just like I’m glad I put my beer down mate. Being 10 hours behind it’s strange watching the games stone cold sober and reading the daily news with a pint under the belt.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I tell you what, if it functioned that way for me, there would be law suits. Imagine what BL would write if he had a skin full!

        • Huw Tindall

          Would have to get a breathalyzer attached to the digital connectivity device of choice.

        • Greg

          @Huw Hopoate?

        • Huw Tindall

          the Hopper Shocker…that and Julian Clearly are some of the lowest points in Rugby League history. Makes KB’s didgeridoo vacuum clear work look angelic!

        • Brisneyland Local

          Like drinking and dialling.
          Dont drink and type!

    • Ed

      Brilliant Hoss.
      Interesting comments from O’Connor about Pocock could be considered as 7 for RWC but more on if there is a need for an attack coach. Well, let Cheika be the attack coach and everyone will know what is coming. Subtlety and nuance, naaah. Fitness and repeats will be the words.

    • Brisneyland Local

      Hoss as always pure Gold.

    • Greg

      Very funny…. but left me feeling sad.

    • Huw Tindall

      Just to poke the bear, so to speak…McMahon, Hooper and Dempsey has been our best balanced backrow since RWC2015. Poey is a freak but has a relatively limited skill set.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/143b5f4d137803f310785b54714581868e075ca37353d4e38596caeb031737d1.png

      • Mart

        Play any multitude of Aus opensides there, it’s just about the balance. Oh and people playing in position

        • Huw Tindall

          Fair call Mart. Balance is key. The McMahon argument is also based on the argument that two small backrowers stuffed up the lineout and that wasn’t acceptable. The form and stats of the Wallabies over that time suggests 3 bean poles plus fourth alternative jumper is good enough. The problem with Wallabies lineout recently is the hooker, not the jumpers. Who cares how big the ball running backrower is as long as they get over the gain line that’s the main thing.

      • Hoss

        Even McMahon said his body couldn’t stand the wear and tear of Segall plans of playing three smallish loosies – that’s why he took off to Nipponville.

        I look at the knock-on effects to all Oz Rugby – 7’s coming through bugger off or swap codes, 8’s see a 7 in their spot and look to become 4,5 or 6’s. fours and fives see 8’s in their spot and go to GAYFL and we spin in smaller and smaller circles and bemoan players leaving to go OS ????

        • Brisneyland Local

          The Law of Unintended Consequence.

      • Brumby Runner

        spoken like true Tahs’ supporter Huw. Fan of the undersized backrow strategy of the Tahs that has proven so successful during the Cheika reign at the Wallabies. I think not. Poey is a better No 7 than Hooper, and Tui offers more beef an go forward than Dempsey (who looks to be a good 5-10 kg lighter this year anyway). With Naisarani about due to be eligible, the best back row for the Wallabies this year will probably be Tui, Pocock, Naisarani.

        • Dylan Langes

          Im still not sure Tui is a good option at 6, to me he’s a better second rower, even Brad Thorn plays him there. I could be wrong. I would really like to see Gus Cottrell get a run at 6. He plays hard and smart.

        • Huw Tindall

          Tui could be a 6 but not yet. Cottrell had a quiet game last week though. Overshadowed by all the other backrowers in both teams I reckon. Definitely a ‘nous’ player making the right decision 9/10 times.

        • Dylan Langes

          I think if we want Tui to be a 6 we need to invest the next 4 years into it. We need the Reds on board with this as well, we need speed and skills coaches to work with him to get him there. He can do a lot of good and can sometimes be inexperienced in his playing. As I said can be there just requires more work than Cheika’s ego.

        • Huw Tindall

          He’s a product of our crap pathways ultimately. Talent is clear as day but he hasn’t had the coaching to bring it to fruition in his career (yet).

        • Dylan Langes

          Wessels was saying this is his 3rd SR team in 3 years. Some consistent coaching would do him a world of good. I also hope Australian Rugby doesn’t put the weight of the world on his shoulders to fix everything like the do with all young talent.

        • Brumby Runner

          In his last game, Tui was by far the most dangerous runner with the ball we had in the forwards.

        • Dylan Langes

          Oh yeah he’s definitely dangerous with ball in hand, but I think his strength is in the second row rather than flanker

        • Brumby Runner

          Yep, probably so re Tuoi. I’d agree that either Cottrell or Philip at 6 would be an improvement.

        • Huw Tindall

          Fan of the Pooper BR! Not a fan of Ned and the other lightweights. That’s been the biggest issue with the Wallabies backrow recently IMO. Arguably though given the lack of a big ball runner to complement Pooper Chekia should have picked a more traditional backrow and only played one of Poey or Hooper (start Poey and Hooper off the bench). Alas that didn’t happen. In all this though I think the backrow was the least of the Wallabies problems. Hooker and stable locking pair would be good to start. Then move along from the double playmaker thing with Foley/Beale. Much bigger issues than the backrower.

          Re Naisarani I’m not sold either. McCaffery outplayed him last week and he hasn’t been a sensation like Mafi either. I’d have even said Timu had a better year than him in 2018. Another player with the physical profile and potential but not the runs on the board.

        • Dylan Langes

          Naisarani is still relatively young in his Rugby career and will grow a lot more. Watching him play from the Rising has me excited to see what Wessels can get out of him.
          He just needs the time invested in him. But a big ball carrying number 8 would be a big addition.
          I think your right though, McCaffery had a blinder of a game against him.

      • Dylan Langes

        Swap Hooper for Poey and thats a strong back three. I think Poey’s leadership alone is worth Toupos weight in gold.

        • Huw Tindall

          Great rugby metaphor there Dylan! Definitely Poey seems like a leader in the squad with his high standards but I think there is an argument that a broader skill set equals more overall value in a team. Honestly outside of his defensive ruck work, is Poey the best 7 in any other aspect? For example defense, link play, work rate, speed to the breakdown, support play, and so on. I think the answer is no. On top of this, with jackling becoming a more general skill in rugby (see Mr M.Marx), the backrow roles are getting ever wider.

        • Dylan Langes

          I actually think yes, i think he is smarter with his work rate, which means he doesn’t over commit when he doesn’t need, I think his effort in attack and defence is definitely there. I don’t think Hooper offers any more than Poey, maybe in running in wide channels, but Poey’s history as a centre means his passing and catching is better than some of the backs in the Wallabies squad.
          Agree that Jackling is becoming a part of most players games but Poey is still the best and hard to beat, hence the ABs resorting to cynical play against him.

        • Huw Tindall

          Fair and Poey has definitely worked on the other areas of his game in last few years. I don’t have the numbers with me but I’d like to see the stats the current crop of coaches have to hand to see how the various 7s stack up. On the face of it though I don’t think Poey wouldn’t have more run metres, hit ups, etc. I’m pretty sure he didn’t even have that many more turnovers last season. I’m mean it’s a hard comparison as they are given different roles by the coach with Hooper being a front line defender and wide runner an Poey the in tight ruck monster but all that considered I’d think Hooper has a better all around skill set. Both great and as a pure 7 Poey wins. Just not sure a pure 7 is handy as it was 5-6 years ago. The game is moving on. Just look at England. They have had pretty good success without an out and out 7 when they have played almost 3 blindsides.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I just equate it to this. Steve Hansen stated that Pocock is the only player in the Wallabies that he would put in his squad. that was enough for me.

        • Huw Tindall

          Shh BL. Don’t cut through the uphill argument with a telling point.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I always thought that point was valid. BUt I am sure that Cheika himself thought that was just Hansen baiting him.

        • Huw Tindall

          It is very valid BL. Cynical way to view it but sadly that’s where we are Chek hey. He’s made so many head scratching calls and statements you can just see him taking Hansen’s comments that way.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yep. I have a lot of Kiwi mates, and they all view Pocock as the best 7 out there. Besides Sir Rutchie, they think he is the best 7 ever. And we play him as an 8. Soul destroying.

        • GeorgiaSatellite

          Agree, BL. And there’s no way that Hooper would commit 2, even 3, opposition players to negate his influence. By that measure alone, the Right Hon. D. Pocock is much more valuable than Steve Austin at 7. The value is not just in turnovers, but what he allows the rest of his team to do. If he plays in the right spot.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Spot on GS.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Not just the ABs mate

        • Bernie Chan

          I watch the video (was it produced by RA or Fuxsports…?) of Beale doing a simple left-to-right passing drill and cringe…Poey passes better than the anointed #12…Beale can’t pass left-to-right if he runs with shoulders square to the line.

        • Brumby Runner

          My god, what games have you been watching Huw. Poey is as quick to rucks as Hooper ever was, and is the dominant force whether in securing own ball or pilfering the opponents. He is a dominant tackler unlike Hooper and his link play lately is every bit as good. On top of all that, he is a more inspiring and astute leader than Michael, and the thing that says it all is that he is feared by oppositions, including the ABs, while Hooper is tolerated.

      • Happyman

        Huw you need more sunshine in your life you have been away for too long

    • Custard Taht

      I am going to go against the grain and say…..Cheika may not like it, but I think he will play ball simply because, he won’t throw away a chance of being a RWC winning coach.

      • Hoss

        Hope burns eternal mate – the litmus test for mine is who starts at 7.

        • Human

          Isn’t Who a baseballer?

        • Hoss

          What

        • Brumby Runner

          What’s on second base I think.

        • Hoss

          I don’t know.

        • Human

          ‘S on second.

      • Brisneyland Local

        If he genuinely believes he is going to be a World Cup winning coach, we should have him drug tested!

        • Custard Taht

          Conversely, I would be more worried if he didn’t think he could be.

          I am not riding the cheika train, I just don’t think he is going to throw away an opportunity to win a RWC out of spite.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Agree with that. But after the last 3 years of results, there has to be some serious doubt in his head.

      • Dylan Langes

        Conversely he might already be aware he’s out come October and won’t care what happens.

      • Custard Taht

        I think he understands that this is his last job as an international coach.
        He could throw the baby out with the bath water, but if he was to coach the wallabies to a rwc victory, it would change his legacy and gain him entry to a very small club.
        The chance to join that elite club will override the cut off my nose to spite my face.
        Now, whether he can pull it off is entirely different. He only needs to get the wallabies on a hot streak. History is littered with poor teams in the regular season getting hot, scraping into the finals and riding that streak all the way.
        I doubt he can do it, but you just never know.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Mate there is no way in hell that muppet and his bunch of muppet assistants are going to be able to coach a team to RWC winners. While the right selections will help it still needs leadership, tactics, skills and a plan b&c. He hasn’t proven anywhere that he is able to achieve that

        • Bernie Chan

          Sad but true….but RA has nailed their/our flag to the Cheika mast…we are effed…

      • Damo19

        In September 1939 Nazi Germany invaded Poland. France and England huffed and puffed and declared war on Germany. Then for 7 or 8 months nothing happened. All the teams reset and started planning and re arming for the next phase. This period was referred to as the “Phoney War”. England and France’s preparations were chaotic and in April 1940 Germany headed west and the **** hit the fan.
        We are now armed with a coaching/ selection team of three. However the Wallabies are not due to strike a blow until July 20- away in South Africa. Only then we will know if we have engaged the 3 wise men or the 3 stooges. Outstanding form by certain players in SR will demand a review by the new selection committee you would think. However, given Cheika has maintained most of his coaching crew, including the totally regressive defensive strategy, I’m thinking he doesn’t have a big game plan change in mind. And during the SR phoney war period he can keep clear of any game plan critique from Johnson and O’Connor.
        I’m not expecting a successful invasion of Japan in September.

        • Brumby Runner

          Spot on Damo. All the crap about having a selection panel amounts to nothing now that the next opportunity for it to flex a muscle is too damned close to RWC for any real disagreement with the HC.

          O’Connor said much the same thing in this morning’s Canberra Times (and presumably the SMH). Will bring ideas for discussion but Cheika has the final say on team selections. What a load of horseshit.

        • Mica

          Sitzkrieg. :)

    • Damo19

      Hoss, you have made me laugh again. Which is a problem because what you say is true, is not funny, and I don’t want to laugh.

    • laurence king

      This is just a load of fictitious shit Hoss, this has absolutely not correlation to reality whatsover. (I say this as Im laughing irrationally and being escorted to a van by men in white coats.)

    • Bernie Chan

      Bloody hell…I’m drinking a nice Merlot (and we don’t have many in Oz…) but it has nothing on what you are having…bloody fabulous effort. Problem is we all know it is true, so we cry in our wine/beer…

    • Nutta

      Outstanding.

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Thanks Dylan, although you lose credibility by having something written by the worlds biggest rugby troll included. That man is just a headline grabbing f*ckwit who spends his days thinking of ways to smash NZ rugby. He has obviously played rugby at some stage, but just as obviously wasn’t very good at it and something happened in his youth where he developed a hatred of all things rugby. I think he either got bullied by some rugby players or lost his first girl to a rugby player before he lost his virginity. The guy has no credibility and just writes shit to try and get Tew and Hansen removed andto harm NZ rugby. Please don’t include this prick again he just writes shit.

    The Reds game will be interesting. I think their backs might struggle to get clean ball outside the 10 but they are looking quite strong in places. I’m hoping the Highlanders can step up again – obviously.

    Good to see DHP commit here, I think he’s still got a lot to offer.
    On Johnson and O’Connor just read Hoss’s post below – make sure you don’t have liquid in your mouth when you read it though.

    • Greg

      @KRL Can’t really argue about Mr Moody tho?

    • Huw Tindall

      I feel very similarly about Greg Growden. Used to write good stuff but for a while now it’s just been rumour and muckraking seemingly aimed at harming Australian Rugby. I’m all for calling out problems, and we’ve got a lot of them, but be up front, honest, and constructive about it.

      • Pfitzy

        Good stuff? Growden? When?

        • Huw Tindall

          Lolz yeah but to be fiar he had some good insights and connections during the halcyon days of Australian rugby back in the early 2000s.

        • Pfitzy

          Showing your age there ;) But you’re right – Grumbles was OK when the Wallabies were winning and he could write derogatory, unfunny shit about Kiwis. Now he just writes derogatory, unfunny shit about Australian rugby.

    • Dylan Langes

      Apologies KRL didn’t know about his history, just followed the story on Foxsports. Ill keep that ini mind in the future

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Mate to be fair every good team seems to get the rub of the green. You can’t really blame the players for that. As far as Moody being dirty, my feeling is he does need to watch it and if it costs us a critical game then I’ll be as dirty on him as anyone else

        • Dylan Langes

          Im not looking to blame players, players will push the line as long as they think they can get away with it.
          I think there is a conversation to be had around the treatment of certain teams and every certain players by the officials. It’s like playing in South Africa when the TMO decides to replay something in favour of the SA teams to milk a penalty, or doesn’t show every angle if it risks damaging the SA team. It isn’t the Lions, or the Stormers or the Boks fault it but it needs to be called out.
          And I do believe there are officials who are afraid to stand up to certain players as well, but that happens in every competition

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Good point but bloody hard to manage

        • Greg

          @krl what about the good men make good….

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          I’m not sure that Moody is as bad as he’s portrayed here. That mantra still holds true

    • Silver Ghost

      KRL – even a broken clock is right twice a day!! haha
      do you protest too much???
      Gee wiz, plenty of people respond to Alan Jones commentary and he is the biggest tosser of all in rugby.
      As a long suffering WB supporter, we’ve felt this subtle bias all too often.
      Irrespective of the reputation of this kiwi journo, the topic is worth raising. And Joe Moody,………
      Dylan your creditably holds true for me!!!

      • Brisneyland Local

        SG, we all concur that AB is a tosser of ocean going variety. What pains me about his articles of late is that he is correct a fair portion of the time.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Pfffft!

        • Happyman

          Sarcasm mode on
          No Cuzz Bro Joe Moody is a ruully good bloke and the 25 cynical thungs he dud last year were totally out of chaructur. He is ruuly humble and a great man.
          Sarcasm Mode off

          Seriously how he did not get sent off last year for the elbow on KB was beyond belief. Particularly when Ed Quirk got sent off for the Moondogs against the Reds makes no sense. Then he gets two weeks for it which does feed into the narrative.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Any thuggery against Kurtley Beale is a community service! ;-)

        • Happyman

          Fair call

        • laurence king

          Kurtley tried to tackle the guy with his neck, no wonder he’s tackle shy.

      • John Tynan

        Imagine Rattue and Jones in a room together!!

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Hahahaha mate no prop is a saint and he may have a point but he’s still a rugby hating troll who’s best contribution to the world would be by jumping off it

        • Happyman

          Mate I firmly believe all front rowers should be held to a lower standard as far as discipline is concerned. However Moody is in the same boat as Sinkler and Marler.

        • Dylan Langes

          Marler needs to be sanctioned purely for his terrible haircut.

    • Dylan Langes

      On a different not I am glad DHP is staying in Melbourne. I was a little worried he would jump ship at the end of the year. He had talked about potentially playing overseas again, he enjoyed France and Japan in the past.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Yeah I’m glad too. He’s still got a lot to offer

  • Ed

    Thanks for this Dylan.

    I would like to hear your thoughts after around six weeks when it should be clearer what the resting policy appears to be and how it is being implemented. It seems to be we will wing it as we go.
    If you were going to rest players, would not the overseas trips be an ideal time for some as they don’t have to fly around half way around the world. The Tahs road trip to South Africa – both matches at altitude – would be ones to have a look at.
    Gibson did not consider a weaker side for the Moondogs as he wants to build momentum but surely it would have been one of the no brainers to rest some of the stars. Otherwise the game in Newcastle (sorry Hoss) could be one where we see the weakest Tahs side this year.

    • Dylan Langes

      Hi Ed

      Check out the latest Fox Sports podcast with Justin Harrison where he talks about resting players can lead to a disconnect in team morale.
      I don’t know what RA are planning with regards to resting players, but I don’t think we will really know.

      I think though we can’t just blindly rest players unless they need it, and we don’t want to hurt momentum of the Super teams. Dan McKellar didn’t rest his stars at the end of last year to help the team momentum, and Wessels rested Willy G in a do or die match that really needed his leadership.

      I also think this could be a RA ploy, just say “rest players” to make it look like they have a plan. What you don’t want though is for players to be rested at the pointy end of the Super Season that could cost finals chances for out teams.

      • John Tynan

        “….but I don’t think we will really know.”
        Typo here Dylan.
        I think it’s supposed to be “but I don’t think THEY really know”

        • Dylan Langes

          I really wish that wasn’t true

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        We have a plan as cunning as a weasel

        • Moz

          Man’s ability to weasel out of things is what separates him from animals…except the weasel (Homer J. Simpson)

        • Dylan Langes

          Getting a few Simpsons references today. Always a good sign

        • adastra32

          But is it as cunning as a fox what used to be Professor of Cunning at Oxford University but has moved on and is now working for the U.N. at the High Commission of International Cunning Planning?

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Gold mate

  • adastra32

    Joking aside, but JOC might not be a bad bet for a WBs’ Lazarus at RWC 2019 – along with Nic White, yer slimmed-down big man at Saracens, and a few others currently plying their trade elsewhere. Desperate times require left-field measures…

    • John Tynan

      Skelton – Waratah – Check.
      Others are non-entities.

      hehehehe.

  • GoMelbRebels

    “DHP isn’t the only Rebel to recently recommit to the Melbourne club, with Dave Wessels also extending his contract to 2012.”

    Will he get backpay for that?

    • Dylan Langes

      I think they were worried about the end of the world

  • Happyman

    Would that be the same as the 2007 RWC France v AB’s Forward pass not seen did not happen.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      As the end result proved – absolutely. We lost end of story

      • Happyman

        Only pulling you leg mate.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Hahahaha no worries. I get that a lot

  • Moz

    Off topic, but last week someone mentioned the Fyre Festival doco. Just watched it, and wow! Thanks for the recommendation – I think it came up with a reference to the organisational ability of RA?

    • Dylan Langes

      I made a reference to it saying the Fyre guys could learn something from Twiggy Forrest who made the call to delay the new Global Rapid Rugby when he knew it would be ready.

      • Moz

        Ahh, that was it, and very relevant. I just assumed it was in relation to how fxxked up the RA was. However, great recommendation, and really interesting doco.

  • Cameron Rivett

    Melbourne Rebels captain Dane Haylett-Petty has broken the exodus trend and committed to Australian Rugby and the Melbourne Rebels until the end of 2021.

    Is there really such a trend? Most of the people leaving are at least 29 or stacked behind players who are significantly better than them in their position. I’m not aware of anyone who is currently in Australia and contracted to leave who is under 29 or actually a chance at Wallabies selection.

    • Brisneyland Local

      No all of those ones have already left.
      Liam F’ing Gill is the best example.

      • Cameron Rivett

        I was fond of Gill and Colby Faingaa too, but let’s not pretend they ever had a real shot at the Wallabies (at least under the current regime). Pocock and Hooper have the position nailed down, and other backrowers like Pete Samu and Will Miller are reaching international skill levels of pilfering too.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I agree. But Hooper shouldnt really be in the squad. I would prefer Gill to Hooper in a heart beat. On top of that Gill actually has a rugby brain. Unlike our present Captain.
          But you are right, under this regime, no chance. So he left.

  • GeorgiaSatellite

    “We believe Michael’s skills will compliment the skills of both Michael Cheika and Scott Johnson…” As long as they complement them as well.

    Doesn’t anyone proofread anymore? Or perhaps they did and this is further proof of RA ignorance?

    • Brisneyland Local

      The PR department relies on ‘speel’ check.

  • dane

    Great photo bait with the peroxided brand

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