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Thursday’s Rugby News

Thursdays Rugby News sees Junior Wallabies named, Rebels make 4 changes, Rugby Championship schedule confirmed and Five Aussie Women’s coaches invited to the World Rugby Academy.


 

 

JUNIOR WALLABIES NAMES

2018-Oceania-U20s-Day2-15

The Junior Wallabies 32-man squad has been named and 12 Super Rugby contracted players have been included.

Queensland contracted players Isaac Lucas, Fraser McReight and Harry Wilson, as well as Jack Hardy will link up with the squad after they return from the Reds tour of South Africa.

NSW will be represented by Tahs players Angus Bell, Ben Donaldson, Will Harris, Pat Tafa and Will Harrison.

The Melbourne Rebels have two of their three players listed for this weekend’s match against  in Esei Ha’angana, Semisi Tupou and Trevor Hosea. 

Sevens speedster Triston Reilly has also been named after he was released by Aussie Mens Coach Tim Walsh for the U20 Championship. 

Head Coach Jason Gilmore is looking forward to having the team in camp for longer and building a strong platform a head of the World Championship in Argentina later in the year.

“We’ve got nine members of the 2018 World Championship squad back again in the fold, so they will be leading some of our newer members in the group,” Gilmore said.

“The whole squad have put in the work to earn their spot so it’s now a matter of maintaining this work ethic as we head into camp.”

The Junior Wallabies came second last year going down to New Zealand 43-28 in the final.

Oliver Barden (NSW) Angus Bell (NSW) Darcy Breen (NSW) Joe Cotton (QLD) Ben Donaldson (NSW) Max Douglas (NSW) Esei Ha’angana (VIC) Jack Hardy (QLD) Will Harris (NSW) Will Harrison (NSW) Trevor Hosea (VIC) Tom Kibble (QLD) Nathan Lawson (NSW) Noah Lolesio (ACT) Lachlan Lonergan (ACT) Isaac Lucas (QLD) Michael McDonald (WA) Fraser McReight (QLD) Josh Nasser (QLD) Mark Nawaqanitawase (NSW) Kye Oates (QLD) Bryon Ralston (QLD) Triston Reilly (AU7s) Henry Robertson (NSW) Egan Siggs (QLD) Patrick Tafa (NSW) Sione Tui (VIC) Semisi Tupou (VIC) Liam Usher (QLD) Joey Walton (NSW) Harry Wilson (QLD) Michael Wood (QLD)

Oceania U20s Championship, Bond University, Gold Coast

Round 1 – Friday, April 26

New Zealand v Fiji, 5pm

Australia v Japan, 7pm

Round 2 – Tuesday, April 30

New Zealand v Japan, 5pm

Australia v Fiji, 7pm

Round 3 – Saturday, May 4

Japan v Fiji, 5pm

New Zealand v Australia, 7pm

REBELS TEAM NEWS

Adam Coleman leads the maul  Reds v Rebels 2019

The Melbourne Rebels have made four changes to the side that put the Sunwolves to the sword with three of their regular starters out due to ‘niggles’.

Hooker Anaru Rangi, Lock Matt Phillip and Winger Jack Maddocks are all being rested due to minor injuries, with replacement Prop Pone Fa’amausili missing out Sam Talakai who comes back into the starting line up.

Robbie Abel replaces Rangi (rolled ankle) at No. 2, Ross Haylett-Petty comes in for Phillip (bruised heel) and Semisi Tupou comes from the bench and into the starting line up for Maddocks.

When asked about the resting of Maddocks, Rebels coach Dave Wessels had this to say:

“Jack’s got a bit of a grumbly knee with tendonitis in his patella, so we’ll just settle that down and he’ll be right to go next week,” Wessels said.

“Those decisions are made a lot easier when a guy like Semisi (Tupou) trains as well as he does and also plays well in the minutes he got against the Sunwolves, so he’s an exciting young prospect for us (and) we’re excited to see what Semisi brings.”

Wessels is adamant that despite the teams win and position in the Australian conference that they are not taking the Stormers lightly.

“I don’t think the Stormers played particularly well against the Reds last week and I think they’ll be frustrated by that, which is dangerous for us.

“They very nearly beat the Hurricanes and I thought they played well in large parts against the Blues, so they’re a good side.

“We haven’t given much thought to the Waratahs yet, we’ve got a huge game this weekend.

“We were disappointed with our performances in South Africa, we obviously lost on the hooter against the Lions at Ellis Park and then really didn’t play well against the Sharks in Durban.

“We haven’t beaten a South African team yet this year and I think that opportunity is a marker for us – a mini-milestone in our season – so we’re very keen to  make a statement with our performance.”

The Rebels have been able to play an up tempo game against recent opposition but Wessels believes that the Rebels will be up for the challenge, hence the plan to bring Sam Talakai back after he was rested.

“The Stormers do provide some challenges that maybe we haven’t had in our last two games,” Wessels said.

“I think we’ve got to get those things right.

“They’ve got a really world class front row, so that’s a huge challenge for our pack and I think one that our guys will be up for.

“Probably to combat some of their strengths at set piece time we’ve chosen a slightly heavier front row to go into this game.

“I thought Jermaine Ainsley played very well, probably his best game for us in a while, starting last week against the Sunwolves, and then Hugh Roach made a real impact when he came off the bench.

“So we’ll look to up the tempo towards the back end of the game.”

Rebels to face Stormers:

1 Tetera Faulkner 2 Robbie Abel 3 Sam Talakai 4 Ross Haylett-Petty 5 Adam Coleman 6 Luke Jones 7 Angus Cottrell © 8 Isi Naisarani 9 Will Genia 10 Quade Cooper 11 Marika Koroibete 12 Billy Meakes 13 Tom English 14 Semisi Tupou 15 Reece Hodge

Reserves:

16 Hugh Roach 17 Matt Gibbon 18 Jermaine Ainsley 19 Esei Ha’angana 20 Rob Leota 21 Richard Hardwick 22 Michael Ruru 23 Campbell Magnay

RUGBY CHAMPIONSHIP CONFIRMED

Will Genia clears with a box kick

Will Genia clears with a box kick

SANZAAR confirmed the abbreviated schedule for the Rugby Championship this year, being brought down to a six-match, three round competition with a fourth round allotted for the second Bledisloe Cup.

Due to the World Cup, the Rugby Championship has to be shortened from its regular six-round, 12-match event, with each team playing each other either home or away.

The effect of not having the June/ July series is that the Rugby Championship have been forward to start closer to the end of the unbroken 21 week Super Rugby Season.

The Wallabies will play South Africa in Johannesburg, host the Pumas in Brisbane, play Bledisoe one against the All Blacks in Perth and finish off against New Zealand at the fortress of Eden Park.

Approximately four weeks later the Wallabies will host Samoa before heading off to Japan for the World Cup.

The Rugby Championship (All times AEST)

Round one

South Africa v Australia, Johannesburg, Sunday July 21, 1:05am

Argentina v New Zealand, Buenos Aires, Sunday July 21, 8:40am

Round two

New Zealand v South Africa, Saturday July 27, 5:35pm

Australia v Argentina, Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane, Saturday July 27, 8pm

Round three

Australia v New Zealand, Optus Stadium, Perth, August 10, 8pm

Argentina v South Africa, Salta, August 11, 5:40am

Additional Test weekend

New Zealand v Australia, Auckland, August 17, 5:35pm

South Africa v Argentina, Pretoria, August 18, 1:05am

 

SUPER W COACHES JOIN HIGH PERFORMANCE ACADEMY 

QLD buggered Super W 2019 QLD v NSW (photo credit Keith McInnes)

Five prominent women in High Performance roles in Australian Rugby have been given the opportunity to attend World Rugby’s High Performance Academy in Stellenbosch in South Africa this May.

Two Buildcorp Super W Head Coaches from Queensland, Moana Virtue and Melbourne Rebels Women’s Head Coach, Alana Thomas, will travel alongside Match Offical Amber McLachlan, Strength and Conditioning coaches Sophie Pidcock and Emma Lincoln Smith from the NSW Waratahs Women’s side for the week-long Academy.

The Academy will focus on personal and professional development of all the coaches involved as they look to expand womens rugby around the world.

This is a strong step forward for Womens rugby in Australia, after a second strong season of Super W, the success of Womens sevens and the latest report regarding an increase in female participation in sevens and XVs.

World Rugby General Manager, High Performance Peter Horne said: “One of the strategic priorities of World Rugby is the growth and development of the Women’s game.

“Over recent times we have seen unprecedented levels of interest in Women’s High Performance Coaching, Match Officiating and Strength & Conditioning.

“This edition of the World Rugby HP Academy will be the first time that the programme will focus solely on talented women in these High Performance roles to grow their capability and build a supportive global network of the future leaders of our game.”

Rugby Australia Head of Women’s Rugby, Jilly Collins, was impressed and delighted to have five women from Australia selected for the academy. 

“We are delighted that five candidates have been selected from Australia to attend World Rugby’s Academy in Stellenbosch.” She said.

“It is a fantastic opportunity for them to develop and meet other women from around the world with similar Rugby aspirations.

“It is important that more women recognise what’s available to them in Rugby and the various career pathways.”

“This is a very exciting opportunity to gain professional development on the global stage and meet with fellow coaches from around the world,” Moana Virtue said

“It’s really important in coaching that you are constantly striving to improve and understand the game better and this will allow us to learn not just about our roles within the game, but the wider machine that is important to the growth of Rugby.

“It’s also humbling to be representing the next generation of women coming through the system in Australia and I look forward to working with my colleagues when we get to South Africa.”

 

  • Dylan Langes

    By the way news broke last night regarding more comments from Israel Folau on social media after we published.
    You can find the original post if you are inclined here https://www.instagram.com/p/BwEWt2uHcLI/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

    and RA response here
    https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2019/04/10/rugby-folau-posts
    https://www.rugbyau.com/news/2019/04/10/statement-regarding-israel-folau-social-media-post

    • Steve

      Thanks Dylan.

      Yep, he’s a great footballer but I’m pretty sure he’d get on well with a certain drunk uncle of mine at Christmas

    • Moz

      Interesting quote from Cheiks from the last time – Wallabies coach Michael Cheika also indicated last year he’d had assurances from Folau that he would no longer post controversial views on social media after understanding the impact on his teammates.

      Cheika said he was “confident it is not going to be an ongoing issue”.

      So Izzy has stuck one to Cheiks as well!

  • Steve

    Feel sorry for Maddocks. I know from experience that patella tendonitis is the sort of thing that stays with you a long time.

    In other news: Izzy Folau again attempted to prove beyond doubt that he isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed. Is apparently unaware he received the gong some time ago.

  • RF

    And Izzy…

    • sambo6

      Izzy Homou?

    • Nicholas Wasiliev

      See below

  • Keith Butler

    How about we focus on commenting on rugby and ignore Folau’s latest brain fart.

    • Hoss

      It would be rude, nay blasphemous, not to accept a gift when it is dropped in your lap. All that’s missing is a nice card to go with.

  • wilful

    Wessels sounds like he actually considers the team they’re playing and adapts the game plan. Probably even watches a few videos. How radical is that!

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      I know. Not sure that is sustainable over here

    • Hoss

      That’s some ‘next level’ shit right there.

    • Nutta

      How dare he? That’s blasphemy.

  • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

    In there words, has Izzy succeeded in having his contract torn up this time 5 months out from a World Cup?

    Seems unlikely given RAs tolerance for him in the past, but if so it would really fuck the Tahs for the rest of the season.

    • Happyman

      I hope they do tear up his contract they can get him off the payroll and still play him if form allows.
      They can then use the money to pay Samu Kerevi what he deserves.

      • Timbo

        Ironically both Izzy and Samu share the same faith.
        Im 6 of the things on that post by IF and im not offended.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Mate we know it won’t. There will be the usual platitudes from RA and some harsh words spoken and maybe even a hit in the pocket but nothing of substance will occur because there is no integrity in that organisation.

  • Brisneyland Local

    Morning GAGR’s! Well well well! Three holes in the ground usually containing water! And a hole in the ground is about where old Izzy will be shortly.
    I would pay money to hear what old Cheika the Ass clown is saying about now. I am sure he is on the phone to the Pirate saying “Dont you dare sack him!”
    But to be honest my views on this are ;retty limited.
    1. I believe in free speech!
    2. I think what he said, is dumb, hurtful, and deliberately said to stir the pot.
    3. This is now a commercial decision as he has broken no law! So has he hurt enough people for RA to act! Is the loss the are going to suffer due to inaction more than what they get from having Izzy in the game?
    Re the rest of the rugby news. I cant wait for this weekends round so we can concentrate on what the game really should be about. Players going hard on the field. showing good skills, desperation and flair!
    So on that note I will be watching the Kiwi games and the Rebels only! ha ha

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      It’s one of those things mate. Free speech means you allow idiots to say dumb things. Sometimes this bites you in the arse. As I mentioned nothing will change just some more comments from the RA

      • Brisneyland Local

        I am just wondering how they will contort themselves over this one!

        • Greg

          I think they will need to suck it up and part ways.

          Presumably the lawyers pointed out the relevant contractual clauses in the last discussions.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I am sure that is what RA will want to do. But the Tah’s and Cheika will be applying significant pressure for them to not do that. It will be an interesting tug of war!

        • Greg

          @BL there has been far too much tugging going on. I think that is part of the problem. Time to move on.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Mate dont get me wrong. I agree. He should be bulleted immediately! I am just finding it hilarious that there is so much push and pull that they are going to struggle to!

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Gold

        • Gun

          A mate in the aviation game po8nts out that Alan Joyce will have an opinion.

        • Brisneyland Local

          If he threatens to withdraw Qantas sponsorship then Izzy is goneski!

        • disqus_NMX

          Maybe… are Qantas really going to pull out just before the WC? Just because of the individual opinion of an individual player?

          If I was RA, I’d give Folau a big fat fine and leave it at that. They would be seen as publicly doing something about it, which is probably the important part. Qantas would be appeased because RA is publicly saying they don’t agree with Folau. Folau would be appeased as he can say he sticks to his beliefs ahead of money. RA looks strong but fair, and saves a wad of cash (in the form of collecting the fine).

        • Brisneyland Local

          Qantas threatened last time. LAnd Rover withdrew Izzy’s car. This time there will be a higher proportional response. RA can bluff here, so if Qantas threaten, regardless of whether it is bluff, posturing or virtue signalling, RA will have to act. They are still broke.

        • Hoss

          Mate, Land Rover taking back a car aint no punishment………

        • Brisneyland Local

          I agree. But a free car is a free car! A third class ride is better than a first class walk!

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Some would say it was a support measure

        • Hoss

          Pre-emptive strike and save on a tow-truck anyhow…..

        • GeorgiaSatellite

          I write this after learning of Dusty’s sacking, so we’ll never know, but I think Qantas would have pulled the pin. It would have gained them greater (good) publicity than sponsoring a team that may struggle to achieve anything worthwhile at the RWC. Quite a bit cheaper too! Something about a wing and a prayer?

        • Hoss

          I am with you mate – i reckon he is goneski.

    • Keith Butler

      I was always told engage brain before opening mouth. Unfortunately Folau is not the sharpest tool in the box. Back to rugby, Go Rebels. A nice win and we’re 10 points clear.

      • Brisneyland Local

        That is what I am waiting for. Cant wait for the Rebs game. My children are out at a party. I have the house to myself. Will put Kayo on, turn sound bar on, and blast the game at full bore! Just the way it should be!

        • Greg

          Fox commentary at full boor. Just what you need!

        • Brisneyland Local

          YEs well with all good must come some bad! It is a balance thing!

        • Keith Butler

          With a libation or three. Had to look up what it meant – a drink poured and offered to a deity. Must be QC.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Agree.

    • Steve

      Don’t think there was any suggestion he was going to go to prison BL!

      Was always a commerical decision – free speech doesn’t exist with regard to an employer as you know.

      He was, beyond everything else, proving that the lightbulb in his head doesn’t burn particularly brightly

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yep if brain power was dynamite, this fellow doesnt have enough to blow his nose!

    • Reinforce

      Wonder what Alan Joyce of the Qantas part of the Qantas Wallabies thinks? Sponsors don’t want to be associated with associations that appear to condone those views (condone by not doing anything meaningful). Will be interesting to watch.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yep it will be.
        I give them 24 Hours!

      • Who?

        I hate companies whose sole purpose is to rip off clientele wherever possible and who mess around their clientele on a regular basis think for some reason that we want them to be our moral compass. When QANTAS doesn’t mess up (and let’s not forget that includes Jetstar), they can tell us where we’re getting it wrong.

    • Moz

      I’m actually more curious as to whether Folau and others who post things like that really believe if it is effective? Have they done market research to say “Yep, just do a post saying unless they repent they are going to hell. We know that a large percentage will view that as a wakeup call, get their shxt together, put it away, and start being a good little fellow”.

      Or is it more about being self-righteous, and their desire to tell other people how to live their life?

      For me, it more reminds me of those Facebook questionnaire posts, which asks “How many countries have you been to”, “How many of these foods do you eat”, etc… I like to scan through and tick how many I have completed… Possibly not all in this case, but certainly not judging others!

      So, I hope his market research shows this is an effective way to get his message and belief across, for the shitstorm this is creating!

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yeah not sure on that ne. It is evident that he truly believes what he is writing. And it is also obvious that he holds his faith as more important than his income. Time will tell I guess.

        • Parker

          If only the faith were mute instead of blind.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Here here

      • Who?

        I’m sure that there’s no market research in what Folau’s posted, it’s pure conviction.
        I’m also very confident that there’s no hatred in what’s posted, certainly no fear, but that doesn’t mean that it won’t be interpreted as homophobic (a horribly generic catch all that goes back to the defence for murder being fear of being raped by another man, but one that now has little meaning, as few people genuinely fear homosexuals or homosexuality).
        I doubt there’s much self-righteousness in there, he seems pretty humble.
        .
        I’m not saying he should or shouldn’t have posted what he posted, just saying I don’t think it was ever going to have the desired outcome or that his motivations weren’t positive (if not misguided).

    • Happyman

      BL your 3rd point is correct it is a business decision.
      Izzy costs a lot of money for not a great return off the field he also gets your major sponsor off side.
      Given he is 30 a back and meets the Giteau rule I would tear up his contract and pick him for tests if his form allows.
      Spend the money on Samu Kerevi who does not say stupid things and at 25 has the capacity to be a world class player for the next 5 years.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Totally agree.

  • Keith Butler

    Big game for the Rebs this Friday. Pity that Phillips is missing but the spine of the team is there. Tough battle up front but if we can run the Stormers big forwards around and get a least parity could be in for the win.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      They’ll be hurting after 3 losses but they’ll also be tired and I think the Rebels have got this

      • Brisneyland Local

        I do hope so!

    • Dylan Langes

      I think the Stormers are going to miss Kolisi so that brings me some solace

    • Singapore Sling

      Did you see the Stormers tighthead in the Reds match? He looked like he’d smash a box of Castle and a pack and a half of Craven A a day. He was gassed after 15 minutes. He’d need a crash cart and a full ER team if he played on the high veldt.

  • Greg

    Really Mr Folau? Really?

    You are welcome to your views and free to express them. Your views are completely misaligned with your employer. Could I encourage you to find an alternative employer that condemns gays, adulterers etc etc.

    Separate to that is perhaps the question of what happened to christian compassion?

    In other news…. the rugby is on this weekend.

    • formerflanker

      Surely Israel’s actual words in his Instagram post are examples of Christian compassion?
      “Jesus Christ loves you and is giving you time to turn away from your sin and come to him.”

      • Greg

        That is saying… do as I tell you if you want my compassion, isn’t it?

        I think of the risk of self harm by vulnerable people that feel they are under attack.

        • Timbo

          No Greg. The actual theology behind it is ‘I have provided compassion already through my actions 2000 years ago in ancient Palestine. Take it. It’s a free gift. Once you accept it, I will work in you to make you more like me’
          As someone who is both a Jesus following Christian, adulterer, liar, fornicator, drunkard and other names, I feel that his message is pointed directly at me. The guilt I have is strong. But, as Job says, I know that my redeemer lives and having accepted the compassion of Jesus in his actions 2000 years ago, I am not afraid of death.
          Regarding Mr Folau, his Twitter posts while foolish in a secular country, I believe they do come from love. I’d suggest to him however that maybe he filter any further posts though someone who has both a strong desire to turn people towards Jesus, and a smart brain on how to do that without looking like a heartless prick. John Dickson does a pretty good job.

        • Pearcewreck

          Well said Timbo.
          We all fall short of the Glory of God.

          Me most of all. I haven’t read the posts by Israel Folau, but I do wonder if has acknowledged his own failings first before casting stones at others. I’m not sure, maybe he does do that, but it doesn’t seem like he does.
          Also, you are correct, John Dickson a brilliant well thought out man.

        • Who?

          Pretty sure that, in his article in The Player’s Voice last year, Folau did acknowledge that he’s a sinner.
          Evangelism in 44 words (last year’s post), or 280 characters (Twitter’s limit) is seldom a good idea…

        • Greg

          @disqus_SeVJ0JxxUX:disqus Well said and thanks for the thoughtful response.

          Perhaps Mr Folau could read it?

          We could be on a roll if we can get Mr Folau and Mr Chekia reading here!

        • Timbo

          You’re welcome. Im no Apologist but its frustrating having to defend someone who is genuinely concerned with others welfare, but go about it in a non jesus like way.
          If Izzy isn’t listening to people who do have his respect, then he’s certainly not going to read this sinners responses.

  • Bernie Chan

    Jeez…you almost have to wonder about the guys who ‘manage’ Izzy….
    RAs sponsors won’t be happy, but I tend to agree with others…he won’t be sacked as Cheika and the Tahs need him….
    As Happyman says….sack him and use the money to retain Kerevi, and Genia…

    • Brisneyland Local

      Damn straight. Now lets see if we can get Hooper to say something dumb on twitter and we will be able to fund grass roots rugby! ha ha

    • Greg

      or a full back that can pass? (and kick)

    • Geoffro

      Pretty sure Izzys agent wasnt consulted when he decided in an obviously rapturous moment to post on instagram.Poor bugger must be choking on his cornflakes this morning

      • Bernie Chan

        You’re probably right…I was more alluding to the fact that player ‘agents/manangers’ (in rugby, league and AFL…) don’t seem to do much more than negotiate contracts. They don’t seem to really help players much by managing or advising them (eg. what to say, what to avoid…) though it would be difficult to guide a religious fundamentalist as they take some sections of the bible literally….

        • Geoffro

          Isaac Moses (appropriately named eh) is his manager.Apparently he wields a has a fair bit of influence around the scene.Be interesting to see how things play out.

    • Parker

      Yeah, it’ll be hard for the sponsors to take. Izzy’s list covers the bulk of Qantas’s passengers.

  • Hoss

    Well good morning and welcome to Hades.

    Sorry about the heat, the AC seems to have been broken for an eternity, but as Mark Twain offered – ‘its heaven for the climate and hell for the company’ and to be frank, its not that bad. April in Darwin, now there’s your living hell. 36 degrees,102% humidity and gravity that sees litres of sweat pool between you balls and the arsehole, that useless area i aptly name ‘South Australia’ – but i digress.

    Plenty will follow and chase the drama down the rabbit hole, i would prefer to use Pastor Dusty’s illuminations as Wallaby Selection Exclusion Criteria – so here goes:

    – Drunks – there goes most of the GAGR contributors, RA fans and public in general. A Code with 0 fans
    – Homosexuals – there goes the Wallaby back-line
    – Adulterers. Not really sure what this one is. I asked my neighbours wife as she was post-coital dressing this morning and we drew a blank ? I know Husbandery is taking care of animals, so maybe ‘adultery’ is a group of people taking care of animals – ie farmers. So therefore the farmers are fucked, which also makes them fornicators – you can tell that Jewish back packer guy was a fisherman, he sure hated farmers.
    – Cameron Clyne – he’s talking to you
    – Fornicators – Cheik – your gone, you have completely fucked Australian Rugby
    – Thieves. RA & Fox – you have charged me money to follow this shite – if thats not daylight robbery i dont know what is.
    – Atheists – your gonna feel foolish aren’t you ?
    – Idolaters. I hate American idol, so i am going as well. To be fair, its about my 4th strike on this list anyway.

    So we have maybe David Pocock as the Wallaby team.13 fans. No administration or coverage. Administration in chaos, a lot of non-believers and those looking for rugby salvation and wanting to follow false gods – doesn’t that sound like exactly what we have now anyway. Maybe this is hell we are living now – cue spooky music here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I read the bible a few times over the years. Far as i can tell its a Jewish back packer, limited budget, writing of his adventures and odd-jobs in a travel diary – like an early ‘Trip Advisor’ site:

    – Gallilee – good fishing, not much nite life. Nice Mountain to take in the sights and ruminate on life, served wine and fish – plenty of tourists though
    – Bethlaham – accommodation was basic, but the gift with stay was good. Had three guys attend to room service, they seemed wise.
    – Jerusalem – food was ok, but the after service, fark me – it was extreme. Tip – don’t complain about the roman food – sheesh.

    My favourite story from the travel book though. A guy who pledged servitude and obedience to his master to follow and tow the line and serve in the best interest of all. Late at night he betrayed his master and caused irreparable damage to those who trusted him. Those same ones he looked in the eye, gave his word, shook their hand and then signed to signify his acceptance and loyalty. My take on that – it seems a very unchristian thing to do – hey Dusty…………….

    .

    • Brisneyland Local

      Pure Gold Hoss. Yep We are all screwed according to that list and Dusty. But at least we will go to hell with a smile on our face!

    • Greg

      The last para is key I think.

    • Moz
    • Kiwi rugby lover

      You are gold my friend. Luckily I’d put my coffee down this morning. It’s become a SOP. “Place coffee down and swallow before reading Hoss’s posts”

      It’ll be interesting if there’s any internal issues within the Tahs or Wallabies over this. I’m sure there’s a few thinking “what a fuckwit!” Not sure it’ll help team harmony

    • hippyb9

      Brilliant! Thanks for the laughs.

      • Hoss

        ‘Life is far too important to be taken seriously’

    • Happyman

      Can you imagine walking into a Rugby Club and advising all of the Drunks that they are going to hell.

      PS I always consider believing in god to have two issues.
      1 most only believe in one god over the thousands of gods that others believe in so given that they have disproved the thousands of others I only have to disprove one.

      I also think that believing in a god is like paying your after life insurance. you only find out if the premium is worth it when you are dead.

      • Hoss

        I normally reserve philosophical debates when better lubricated, however.

        I think all evidence, both empirical and spiritual points to the fact that God is a women and has a great sense of humour and in a gender specific trait – is also geographically challenged.

        Humour – What sort of benevolent being (who isn’t just taking the piss) gives the male of the species their sexual peak at 18 and the female of the species the same at 35 ? The same being who makes the male organ a hair trigger that has its own identity and seemingly own brain and always wanting out verse the same for a women that cant be found by Indiana Jones – with a flashlight and map. She is sitting upstairs laughing her tits off at our expense. I hope i go to heaven, would love a drink and some yarns with her.

        Geography – who else creates a world, a heaven on earth, a living utopia, only to realise shes got a piece left over and gets that crook-in-the- guts feeling you get when you’ve assemble something, stood back in admiration and found a large piece still sitting on the table and think ‘ohhhh shiiiiitttttttttt’ – well that’s what New Zealand is. A left over piece Lady Jehovah has gone ‘fuck me – there’s room off Australia – lets plonk it there – no one will notice it anyway’.

        • disqus_NMX

          Ha ha, laughed out loud, you’re on a roll today, Hoss!

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Ouch! Pity the leftover piece got all the rugby talent though mate

        • Hoss

          So there is a Satan ??????????

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Yes it’s us

        • Hoss

          explains the constant offside, use of elbows, high tackles et al.

        • Brisneyland Local

          And the dressing in black!

        • Hoss

          It’s a give-away really.

        • Brisneyland Local

          We have finally solved the riddle.

        • Timbo

          Surely you mean ruddle

        • Brisneyland Local

          Gold.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          and why we get away with it when no one lese does mate

        • Hoss

          Ye shall be smote in Nipponville mate. A day of reckoning awaits those who have moved away from the light to follow darkness.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Yeah right!

        • Greg

          Maybe a new 15 available to help you out?

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Hahahaha no friggen way would he get in and certainly not as a 15

        • Greg

          @KRL I recall you saying often that you were glad he was playing 15…..

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Yep but only against us because then he’s a weakness for the ABs to exploit mate

    • Keith Butler

      A Hoss classic but you are going to burn mate, burn! Also makes me wonder what you do all day but hey that’s what staff, no doubt on the minimum wage are for.

    • Adrian

      Blinded and burnt in hell.

      That’s your fate Hoss.

      You’d of course already find him there, for being a total selfish money hungry theif

      No more nice names like Dusty from now on… please think of a new one Hoss

      • Hoss

        Judas is taken………….

    • Parker

      Splendid!. If post coital ruminations with the neighbour’s wife are the source of these insights I urge you to indulge more often. I never recovered from South Australia and laughed my way through the rest of it so I may have overlooked the nuances.

    • Missing Link

      If hell is going to be like a threesome between coachella, burning man and the sydney mardi-gras, fuck it take me there, because heaven is sure as hell going to be boring as shit

      • Happyman

        I have heard it is a dry heat also

        • Missing Link

          actually make it a 4 way, I forgot to throw in Tommorowland.

          I believe lucifer himself is quite fond of strutting his stuff on a podium

    • theduke

      Hoss, if you ever start your own religion, put me down for a tythe

      • Hoss

        Salm 16, Verse II – and the masses bought forward bounties of bourbon, whiskey and corn chips and Hoss was pleased.

        • Bernie Chan

          Beef, wine and whiskey…I’m in…! Praise that God…

    • A Dingo Stole My Rugby

      I went to hell many years ago. I think these days they refer to it as “Invercargill”.

      • Hoss

        That’s gold.

        Its Old Hebrew spelling i believe.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Good oysters though

        • Brisneyland Local

          Huge oysters!

        • Greg

          Why would you put one of those things on your mouth?

        • Brisneyland Local

          Because they are beautiful! Especially with a crisp MArgaret River Chardonnay!

        • Greg

          You can have mine. I will enjoy your Chardonnay for you.

          ps – have you ever looked at one!!

        • Brisneyland Local

          The look horrible taste beautiful. And no thanks I will keep my wine too ! ;-)

    • Keith Butler

      You missed one Hoss. Calvary – don’t hang around here at Easter time – minus 5 stars.

    • Keith Butler

      I wonder if Qantas will considering dropping their sponsorship of the Wobblies. Never mind Izzy Royal Brunei will find a seat for you.

    • Nutta

      Well done. I am somewhere between in-awe and calling your Boss as you clearly have too much spare time.

    • Singapore Sling

      Just got in from a four hour surf and read of izzys latest. Drunkards eh? This shit just got real!

  • Brendan Hume

    Dave Wessels doing a great job in Melbourne. Should be a good game. It’d be good to see Ruru get a few more minutes each week and not be made to be going in cold as a starter, and they probably should be giving Quade a rest at times – if only to keep him hungry and challenge the squad depth further.
    Rangi has been excellent this year, they’ll miss his dynamic play – but Ross Haylett-Petty has been great in his limited time this season so it’s a good chance for him to keep the tempo high.

    • Dylan Langes

      There was a rumour that came out today that Toomua wants early release to come back to Aus, they would probably use him and rest Quade at the Rebels when that happens.

  • Damo19

    Big apology to Dylan. Some really interesting stories here, only to be skewered off topic by the social media rant of a serial wally.
    We have got to be a little bit worried about kicking off the RC and effectively our RWC rehearsal at Ellis Park on July 21. It may not be a confidence boosting experience, but will probably say a lot about our RWC prospects. Hopefully we won’t go into the match with 12 players carrying calf injuries.

    • Dylan Langes

      Cheers Damo I think the Wallabies will be in for a interesting opening match because the saffas super teams aren’t doing great but at the same time neither have we. Will be a dangerous first hit out

  • Adrian

    Almost everyone has said it all below.

    A blind friend of mine when he heard it this morning, asked me if he was made blind by Jesus for all of those things or just one.

    A deliberate hurtful rave by an ultra self centred money hungry arsehole if ever there was one

    ….angling for $US in NFL??

    • Singapore Sling

      Your mate sounds like a champ. Izzy is what we’d call a “dumb bastard” in the olden days.

  • Dylan Langes

    It astounds me in the same week that we lose an icon of the game and an all round incredible person in Lloyd McDermott who did so much for Rugby and Indigenous Australians, that we have an unprovoked example of “look at me” from Israel Folau just after he broke an impressive record. This post was unprovoked, it was uncalled for and it was unnecessary.
    After the Christchurch attack the president of my Rugby club came down and told everyone that they were welcome regardless of religion, gender, sexuality or skin colour, there would be a place for you and you are safe.
    Folau’s comments don’t make people feel that they are welcome or safe. I know that no one at RA has the balls to sanction him but I hope they terminate his contract. There’s a difference between being a proud Christian and telling people that don’t agree with you that they will go to hell.

    PS Izzy pretty sure there’s a few things in the bible about marking your skin and heaven.

    Leviticus 19:28, ”You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the Lord.”

    • Hoss

      Here, bloody, here.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        A good piece but has RA got the balls to stand up for its own convictions? I haven’t seen anything that indicates they have so I don’t expect he’ll be gone

        • Hoss

          It will be fascinating and i would love a ring side seat. I reckon The Pirate ans sponsors will want him gone v Cheika and Back-Room boys want to keep him.

          Success at all costs or stand up for a principal – i know my preference.

          Stand for something or fall for anything.

        • Brisneyland Local

          or Nothing!

        • Hoss

          Yep – can anyone else see similarities with the 2018 Aussie Cricket Team ?? My opinion only, the most reviled national Sports Team i have had the misfortune to see – even prior to Sandpaper Gate.

          The win at all cost mentality, players bigger than the game and a governing body cowering in the shadows while The Jelly Fish, John Wayne and the Vestal Virgin drag 140 years of tradition through muck that will never wash out. Well, this is Rugby;s equivalent.

          Rugby has arrived at a point where leadership and the future of the code is the prize. Are they brave enough to look long term and claim that prise or cringe and focus on short-term success in the hope all will be forgotten – till the next time………………..

        • Brisneyland Local

          Couldnt agree more. The Pirate depending on her actions will be fighting for her survival here, DeClyne too!

        • Hoss
        • Brisneyland Local

          Cant read it! What does it say?

        • Hoss

          Kerevi & 7A’s both ‘liked’ the comment. So to Speight, buy he since reversed his…………..not the other two.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Ok! Let us see what happens here. Kerevi is leaving so he wont care.

        • Who?

          As I mentioned on yesterday’s comments, what happens when Thorn gets involved…? Only 3 likes is one thing, but we’re talking about a code where half the guys are PI and have strong beliefs, or come from families with strong beliefs. What would the non-affiliated starting XV be..? Other than pretty white?
          Slipper
          Fitzpatrick
          I don’t know… (7A’s liked the comment, I believe Kepu’s affiliated with a church, not sure on Tupou, my old club had a pastor there who was close to the Smith boys…)
          Arnold
          Coleman
          Jones
          Hooper (Pocock’s a Christian, pro-gay, but I’m not sure where he’d sit on Folau being disciplined for his beliefs, given he’s long been an advocate of civil freedoms)
          Dempsey
          Genia…….? (I’m not sure)
          Cooper/Foley
          Cam Clarke?
          Meakes
          English
          Maddocks
          Hodge
          Maybe..?

        • Hoss

          Afternoon Dr.

          Call me naive, but i dont believe its about religion at all, its about personal alignment with corporate values.

          Rugby is about inclusion and respect and should have people that align with those values. Not those who purport to align with those values, accept (a reported) $2 mill / season and then betray those same values and goals that their employer promotes when it suits them to do so.

          Izzy has his devout views and good luck to him – how about he aligns himself with an organisation that shares those same views. I personally would never begrudge any individual who seeks opportunity elsewhere for a common belief – more power to them. But if you are going to work for Company ‘A’ who have a stated position on inclusion, respect and openness and that clashes with your morality, your faith and belief’s, then what does sticking your hand out for $2m make you ?????

        • Happyman

          Well said sir

        • Who?

          It’s about religion for Folau, but not for RA.
          .
          Rugby’s not about inclusion and respect. Rugby’s about earning possession of a ball and fighting your way to get it past the tryline. Inclusion and respect come from that, but they weren’t a traditional part of a game that was first codified in elite schools, and that has a history of discrimination from class discrimination in the UK and here through to apartheid. Inclusion is a new (and welcome) addition, and one that’s not borne out by the way its administered (look at rep selections, look at funding, remember that the Tahs haven’t taken anything to the Hunter in the last 24 seasons until this year).
          .
          It’s less than a decade since I was at an AGM where a former politician, a longstanding civil servant, servant of our game, and someone rather closely tied to a Wallaby praised women in Rugby as “partners, daughters, wives, people who help with our canteens and support their men as they play our game.” Two years later he started to realise they could also be players. Would you describe his attitude as inclusive to women..? Yet at that time our region had fantastic representation in Women’s 7’s. Having someone – even someone in a public and leadership position – who doesn’t always get ‘inclusion’ right doesn’t mean the organisation isn’t inclusive or respectful.
          .
          In terms of corporate values, I question why corporations have values, and why they should be the keeper of our ethics. We’re in a situation where a bloke who turned his life around (his description, after the party days of the Broncos – something Thorn also did) through religion is being told he can’t make (arguably misguided) public statements about his religion (which arguably do more damage to his religion than his employer) by an employer (which has a history of exclusion and is still propped up by people tied to schools that are or were all founded in the same religion) which is subservient to a corporate sponsor that exists in order to harvest cash from the public and is in business with an airline run by a country that is much harsher towards gay people than anything Folau’s ever quoted. Where’s the hypocrisy……? I’d suggest everywhere.
          .
          I genuinely have issue with the concept of corporate values. And why this is a problem. If a vegan goes out and marches on an abattoir, then goes back to work at Woolies the next day (Woolies being one of the greatest pushers of the murdering meat agenda in this country), there’s apparently no problem. They aren’t sacked for hindering their employer’s ability to make money of supposed animal cruelty, they’re not called a hypocrite for not conforming to Woolies’ meat eating culture, or for taking their pay cheque. And nor should the poor misguided souls be!
          .
          Discrimination towards the LGBTIQ community seems to be the only thing that’s subjected to this, and only for those from one sector of the community. We don’t hear complaints about Muslims having issues with homosexuality (perhaps because the very few Muslim people on TV aren’t representative of the vast majority of Muslims around the world), we don’t hear about discrimination against other minorities (such as the Muslim community).
          I get that the LGBTIQ community has copped a lot of discrimination over the years. 30 years ago, it was illegal to engage in homosexual activities in part of this country. But that doesn’t mean the pendulum has to swing miles past centre, to a point where it’s reversed discrimination. Especially given we’re all creatures of habit, and everyone takes time to adjust (even when it’s not a major of conviction).
          I’m glad that we’ve removed that form of discrimination, but I don’t believe that corporations should be imposing their moral codes on us. Who writes these moral codes? And why does it seem to relate more to personal belief than ethical trading practices..? They don’t ban themselves from taking money from people they consider bigots… Or working with them (Emirates).
          .
          I guess the good thing about all this is that at least we’re dealing with a bloke who’s gone too far from the party scene, to the point where he’s constantly posting Biblical texts and behaving (generally) legally, where other codes have had unending issues with players misbehaving and having dealings with the police…
          .
          That said, it’s fascinating that this has – twice in 12 months seen WAY more debate than Beale laughing at a bloke doing lines of cocaine. Maybe that’s more socially acceptable for QANTAS..? Because if you can afford to snort cocaine on the north shore, you’re probably able to afford business class flights.
          .
          And the greatest irony in all this? Folau probably only came to the 15 man code to get ready for eternity, given it’s the game they play in Heaven. :-P

        • Hoss

          Mate, as usual you make well reasoned and articulated points and arguments. I arrive at this argument from a purely commercial position. IMO it’s entirely contradictory to negatively impact the commercial operation in the manner he has, especially given (I am using supposition) that after last years events I imagine there would be a fairly detailed and comprehensive clause relating to his use of social media and now (just home from gym) I hear he hasn’t even replied to NSW or RA since his post last reinforces he has made the posts fully aware of the implications and has effectively resigned, barring some unforeseen miracle. The sad thing is there are no winners in any of this, not Izzy (who is my favourite player) not the fans, RA, the sponsors, the kids, the clubs the grass roots. We are all the poorer for these events and it is genuinely sad, very sad.

        • Who?

          You’re right, Hoss, no winners. Rugby loses publicity (there’s no other big names in the Tahs – I know they’ve tried to push a few of them with the public, but Hooper has crazy eyes every time he appears on TV (though thankfully he’s started to relax), Foley’s still very nervous, Beale’s a risk…), the Wallabies lose a major attacking threat…
          QANTAS wins. Their hypocrisy can carry on unchecked (pushing for the sacking of one person in a democracy who speaks his beliefs, whilst being in bed with an airline owned by a government who are active in targeting gay people), RA saves money.
          .
          I have a few questions in this. Not least of all is… Just home from the gym?! That sounds too much like hard work!
          .
          But I honestly am sick of having companies and organizations required to have policies to guide morality. I don’t see that publicly saying he has beliefs that resonate with somewhere between 10% and 40% of the population (depending on whether you’re talking about Christianity or people who voted no last year) should damage the employer or the employee. Not everyone has the same opinion, people’s minds change at different paces. That’s humanity.
          Meanwhile, Companies exist to make profits. Organizations like Rugby Australia exist to provide opportunity to play sport. They shouldn’t exclude anyone for their beliefs – which is exactly what they’ve just done. It will be interesting to see what the reaction is from others in the sport, including at the grass roots, if there’s any reaction. When I stepped down as president of my club, I handed it on to a South African pastor. We had another pastor in the club, too. I can’t imagine they’d be anything like supportive of RA’s actions here. They might not believe that Folau did the right thing, but I’m confident they’d be very disappointed that RA have effectively sacked someone for his religious beliefs (regardless of how they frame it).

        • Hoss

          Don’t let the gym fool you. I am working on a first goal of morbid obesity and then re-evaluate from there. Mate, right now, my joy for the game is diminished and the irony in all of this is that many of us are likely to arrive at the same destination as me but from different starting points.

          Ain’t life grand.

        • Who?

          One last thing, Hoss. Colin Kapernick kneeling in the NFL. Were you in favour? In favour of his right to kneel, even if you didn’t agree with him..? I thought it was farcical that the NFL bowed to pressure and imposed their own morality on players. So much for freedom of speech and freedom of expression in the nation that first gave us the First Amendment (freedom of speech).
          .
          This is the same concept, in terms of freedom of expression and corporate ethics, even if the direction of discrimination is seemingly reversed.

        • Hoss

          Sorry – just saw this as well. Same answer, as below. If you freely join an organisation and are clear on their values, beliefs and charter than you should support same otherwise why align with them ?

        • Dylan Langes

          So did Koroibete

    • Pearcewreck

      Lloyd McDermott’s name will live on via the teams they have named after him. He must have been a great man.

      Quoting from books like Leviticus from the Old Testament won’t work. Practicing Christians whilst not totally disregarding the Old Testament, will know that it has been superseded by the New Testament, and hence a New Covenant of Jesus Christ, based on the two Great Commandments;

      “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
      Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment.
      And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbour as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Matthew 22:36-40

      I suppose the question is “Has Israel Folau shown love for his neighbour?”

      • Dylan Langes

        I don’t think the Folau comments will detract from the impact McDermott had on the game it is just sad that someone can do so much for people whilst someone else can spread hate.

        As someone who is a catholic I often wonder how people can choose to ignore “love your neighbour” to me that’s the fundamental teaching of Jesus.

    • skip

      When I politely pointed this out he blocked me. One of the hugest pains players of a team I’ve supported for 30 years blocked me. That’s thin skinned and it’s representative of how the game has started treating its fans.

    • Andy

      Tend to agree. Well said.

      It’s clearly is a very selfish action from a guy who has been inside the bubble too long in life. And I don’t think he cares all that much because I doubt he will lose financially on this. If RA sack him, he’ll probably get more coin in France. And I think he and his agent know this. I’m not convinced at all that he would be willing to put 4 mill on the line for a silly Instagram post that could have easily not have happened.

      And not just that. He’s again thrown his team mates and organisation under the bus by doing this. They are all under a heap of pressure at the minute and this would be the last thing they want to deal with.

  • Dylan Langes

    I think rugby.com.au might be streaming the matches for the U20s KRL.
    Wessels is an inspiration. He’s the coach we need but not the coach we deserve in Australia.
    Folau can head of and play Major League Rugby in one of the cousin fucker states of America if he wants to keep this shit up.

  • Happyman

    To actually make a comment on the News of the day as above the Junior Wallabies squad seems to be the usual selection by committee looking after state baed loyalties over actual quality.
    Qld were the dominant teams the NRC U19 with Country playing City in the final. It is therefore a bit perplexing to see the breakup of the players picked for the squad when it is made up of the following
    NSW 12
    QLD 12
    ACT 2
    Vic 4
    WA 1
    AU7 1
    One would have hoped that at this level it would be a meritocracy and that does not appear to be the case as the games I saw both NSW teams were not in the hunt and the ACT may have actually have finished third in the comp if memory serves.

    • disqus_NMX

      Yes, but it is well known that NSW haven’t been taking the NRC seriously, so unfortunately, NRC results are not a reliable indication of merit.

      • Happyman

        That is Senior NRC as NSW believes that nothing exists outside of Shute Shield.

        • disqus_NMX

          NSW doesn’t take the senior NRC seriously, but does take the junior NRC seriously? Regardless, the player split seems like a really fair split that circumvents the politics.

        • Happyman

          Mate I think my point is that this is politics at work neither NSW teams were competitive at that comp. I think they may well have finished behind the ACT.

    • Bernie Chan

      Maaate…it’s the school you go to that’s the deal breaker…
      But seriously, you are not the only one perplexed but it is SNAFU so far as Oz rugby goes…was it last year or the year before that QLD played ACT in the schoolboys National titles, ACT went through undefeated and only 2 ACT lads made the Aussie Schoolboys squad (the ACT flyhalf signed for the Chiefs but wasn’t selected…) while 16(?) boys from NSW got selected…

      • Happyman

        That is correct the ACT team was a group of slightly smaller technically superior hard woking boys who outworked all comers and obviously did not meet some metric. They had obviously also played a lot of rugby together so they had cohesion.
        Obviously you don’t pick good footy players. If I hear the work athlete to justify picking another player again I may just vomit.

        You are correct the way to get picked is go to the right school get the media department a the school to make a youtube video and then get an old boy to post it on theroar and you are now the next big thing.

    • Hannes En Brianda Barnard

      Michael McDonald made the team despite living more than 3,500 km away, without the benefit of a development pathway or an old boys network. He must be an awesome player for the selectors to even notice him! WA has the 3rd largest player base in Australia, and it is an indictment on Rugby Australia, that axed the Force and the associated pathways to professional rugby in WA, that only one WA based player is deemed good enough the represent Australia. The real cost of axing the Force must surely outweigh the few $ saved.

      • Happyman

        Without raising the Force issue yet again I think you will find that there are have been a few boys over the past couple of years who have been scholar shipped to eastern schools for senior years. Obviously both QLD and NSW claim then as there own.

  • Nicholas Wasiliev

    Me last night: hey, we’re having an okay rugby season compared to previous years; teams are playing okay and are more competitive, Rebels are playing well, no off field dramas and behind the scenes controversies giving the game a bad name-

    Izzy: hold my holy water.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Bang! He got you mate. What a shit show

  • Bernie Chan

    A pity that Izzy is referred to in the press as “a devout christian..”. He is a fundamentalist christian…the mob that quote selectively from the Old Testament. They who preach to Izzy are likely referring to Leviticus 18:22 in regards to homosexuality. But Old Testament literalism brings some other issues…
    Leviticus 25:44 mentions being allowed to own slaves….
    Leviticus 19:19 prohibits the planting of 2 crops in the same field…so we’d all starve!
    Exodus 21:7 allows one to sell a daughter into slavery.
    Exodus 35:2 clearly states anyone who works on the Sabbath should be stoned to death…Izz is paid to play rugby and plays on Sundays…should he be stoned?

    • Timbo

      Pretty sure it’s mostly Athiests who prefer to quote selectively from the OT. Especially the lawbooks. Gives them a sense of accomplishment bring the good book and using it against the fundy God botherer.
      Much like IFs twitter and social media faux pas, context is everything.

      • Bernie Chan

        This atheist is interested in religions (lapsed Christian etc etc…)…but the point is that Izzy, or those who preach to him, seem to be so selective when casting damnation on heretics. Many Church Pastors would never speak in these terms…Izzy needs to study some Theology.

        • Who?

          There is one heresy which must ALWAYS be condemned. A straying from the true faith. When it broke off, it stole many followers, who so perverted the doctrine that it is now clearly the path to damnation. And forever may we hold in contempt those heretical conspirators, motivated by cash, who split the true faith in 1908.
          Yes, I’m talking about League. It’s heresy, and must be purged!!! We need an Inquisition!!! :-P

        • Timbo

          Nobody expects the Mungo inquisition.

        • Timbo

          100% agree. I’d say anyone who professes a faith, be it Christianity, Islam, Buddhism etc, should study it wholeheartedly. Realistically, it’s the most important thing to those who profess said faith because it’s life and death.
          The issue comes with doctrinal interpretation. That’s an entirely different conversation where beer/wine/gin should be consumed. Jesus himself drank the best wine at the most important moments in his life.

        • Bernie Chan

          On a sardonic note…it seems that according to Izzy….quite a few of us on this site are going to a fiery place!
          Did you see there’s a video of Izzy condemning the celebration of Christmas and Easter…? For sure commercial imperatives have taken over, but celebrating the birth of Christ and the Resurrection can’t be a bad thing for a Christian…
          On a rugby note..we can win the RWC iff Cheika picks the right players in their best positions. We are not among the faves, but winning the thing is possible without Izzy if the best XV, plus a balanced bench, is picked…and the tactics are sound.

  • Brisneyland Local

    Qantas have just laid their marker:

    Qantas, which threatened to pull their sponsorship with the Wallabies last year following a series of similarly provocative posts from Folau, echoed the disappointment of RA and NSW Rugby.

    “These comments are really disappointing and clearly don’t reflect the spirit of inclusion and diversity that we support,” a Qantas statement said.

    “We are pleased to see Rugby Australia’s condemnation of the comments and will await the outcome of their review.”

    • Dylan Langes

      Folau or QANTAS? Seems like a tough decision, I think we should give them 3 weeks like we did last time

      • Hoss

        ’24-48 hours’ – rings a bell.

    • Funk

      As with last time, it’s a little hypocritical of Qantas and Alan Joyce to try to take a stand on this when they are more than happy to partner with Emirates Airline who are wholey owned by the Dubai government where it is still illegal to even be gay…

      Folau however is an absolute tool for continue doing this.

      If I had a god(s), i would want him/her/them to be loving, compassionate, understanding and forgiving, not some bastard(s) who wants anyone who disagrees with them to go to hell.

    • Happyman

      MMM Qantas or Falou not even close.

  • Gipetto

    No need to rest Quade this season; he will not be in the test squad.

  • skip

    If there’s one thing recent events have shown it’s that Izzy doesn’t want freedom of speech as much as he wants freedom from the consequences of his speech.

  • Silver Ghost

    FFS – lets talk rugby.
    My tips for what looks like a great weekend of games.
    Battle of middle earth to be won by the crusaders (or whatever their new name will be).
    Rebels to be beat the Stormers, sending them home 0-4 on the road.
    Blues to travel back up the highway with smiles on their faces, having secured a win that shows they are the real deal.
    Ponnies in a gallop, despite how crap they’ve been lately.
    Jaguares cant do it 2 weeks in a row , so the Shorks to win that one
    Reds to run out of puff, for a bulls to win at home.

    • Dylan Langes

      Strong predictions this round Silver Ghost.
      The brumbies Lions match will be an interesting contest both have been underwhelming this season, especially how the lions performed last week.
      I’m hoping my Rebels can make it 3 on the trot. Some big changes in that squad.

  • Greg
    • Timbo

      I’m not sure if the post he made was homophobic(as the article says) tho? If he’d said ‘I hate gays and want them Al to go to a place I consider real called Hell’ that would be homophobic. It said I was going to hell as an adulterer, liar, drunkard, fornicator etc, but I don’t see that as the reason for him being sacked.
      Due process needs to be taken to see if he has breeched the code of conduct in providing a personal opinion on a public forum.

  • Gipetto

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@DylanGLanges

Once captained the 3rds Rugby team, but then again so did Nick Farr-Jones

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