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Thursday’s Rugby News Looks at The Wallabies path to the final, Bok B team, John I Dent Cup Brumbies and, Nic White to start.


Wallabies Can Follow Same Path

Former Wallaby skipper Stephan Moore reckons we can just do what we did last time to come second in the World Cup. Moore says that even though the Wallabies are coming off their worst season since 1958 that should just stick with what they were doing and not bring in new players.

Moore believes that experience is vital and that his successor Michael Hooper needs all the support from his key leadership team if they are going to make a late charge similar to their extraordinary run some four years earlier.

That run into the World Cup starts on Sunday morning (1:05 am AEST) when the Wallabies take on the Springboks at Ellis Park — a venue Australia hasn’t beaten the home nation at since 1963.

“If you look at the team this year, Michael Hooper is going to need that type of support around him from the senior players that have been there before,” Moore told the Fox Rugby Podcast.

“I know we talk about the young hookers and all those kind of players, but it’s got to be the players that have been there before and been into battle before that stand up and lead the team and if you get a significant group of players in that category then you can do really good things.

“I would really like to see that from the team this year. Those players that have been around the block a little bit just to really step up and lead that team really well.”

“Generally in a World Cup you’re going to have a bunch of really close games throughout the journey and I think it will be no different this time round, and you need to have people in your team that know what to do under that kind of pressure, under that kind of scenario and I was lucky as captain to have a number of players in the team that had kind of experience and that’s so valuable.”

Will Boks B team backfire?

Will national politics undo South Africa’s bid?

The Springbok have split their squad and left a virtual B team in South Africa to face the Wallabies. The official line is that there is little between the players in New Zealand and the ones in staying home but that sounds a little marketing speak to me.

South Africa coach Rassie Erasmus has decided to save his big guns for the following weekend’s clash with the All Blacks in Wellington with 15 players set to travel to New Zealand early.

It would be wrong to label Erasmus’ plan as arrogant but he has clearly prioritised a potential victory over the world champions ahead of the meeting with a wounded Wallabies side.

Australia is set to name a full strength team on Thursday.

“It’s probably not ideal what South Africa are doing, resting a lot of their players,” Gerrard told Fox Sports News.

“I just hope we can put them to the sword because I just don’t believe in that style of resting players.

“Obviously they need to nurture that (squad rotation) leading into the World Cup but I’m confident the boys will do quite well.”

The former outside back came off the bench in the 24-16 Ellis Park loss in 2006 as the hosts overturned a 10-6 Wallabies lead.

South Africa’s rugby fortress sits at 1724 metres above sea level and the effects of the altitude play havoc with the lungs of touring teams.

Australia has done their best to adjust by travelling a week early but despite the Boks plans to field a B team they are still warm favourites with the bookmakers.

“It’s tremendously difficult to play South Africa anywhere, let alone in their backyard,” said Gerrard, now the coach of the Shute Shield-leading Warringah Rats.

“Ellis Park is quite a daunting place to play, quite hostile at times but I’m sure the Wallabies — given what (Michael) Cheika and (Scott) Johnson and co have done to the group — I’m sure they’re going to be in the best place.

Brumbies Stars Set For John I Dent Cup

Henry Speight forces the ball

Thirteen Brumbies players will be in action in the John I Dent Cup this Saturday, including star wingers Henry Speight and Toni Pulu.

Pulu will don Easts colours for the first time in their round 16 matchup against Queanbeyan, who will have halfback Matt Lucas in their ranks for the clash at Griffith Oval. Brumbies Lock Blake Enever will also be in action for Easts, adding experience and leadership to their pack.

In the Hahn Superdry Match of the Round, Live streamed on the Griffin Legal John I Dent Cup’s Facebook page and Bar TV’s YouTube Channel, Speight will line up out for the Gungahlin Eagles in their top of the table matchup against Royals alongside Mack Hansen, who has been in blistering form for the Eagles in 2019. Hansen will go head to head with Andy Muirhead who will likely start at fullback for the 2017 champions, with hooker Connal McInerney also available for Royals off the back of his successful first full season in Super Rugby.

At Viking Park, Tuggeranong will have a number of young Brumbies to select from as they face off against Wests. Loosehead Prop Vunipola Fifita, Halfback Ryan Lonergan and Centre Len Ikitau have all been consistent performers for the Vikings this season and with only two rounds left of the regular season, the defending premiers have been bolstered by the return of Darcy Swain and Noah Lolesio.

Vikings will also have Lolesio’s Junior Wallaby teammate Lachlan Lonergan in their squad, the young rake being one of the stars of Australia’s u20 World Championship campaign. This match has extra significance with Vikings defending the Bob Hitchcock Territory Shield against Wests.

Opposing the strong Tuggeranong side will be electric playmaker Tom Wright, who has shown on a number of occasions that he can be a one-man match winner at club level. Uni-Norths have the bye this week, but the Owls welcomed Brumbies centre Irae Simone into their side last weekend in a crucial clash against Queanbeyan and he had a massive impact, providing three try-assists on the day in the Owls win to secure 4th spot on the ladder.

Match Details
Saturday, 20 July
Griffin Legal John I Dent Cup, Round 16

Queanbeyan Whites v Easts
(David Campese Oval, 3.05pm)

Tuggeranong Vikings v Western Districts Lions
(Viking Park, 3.05pm)

Canberra Royals v Gungahlin Eagles
(Phillip Enclosed Oval, 3.05pm)

White Set For Wallaby Start

nic white scores wallabies all blacks 2015

I’d be wrong if I said that Nic White playing for the Wallabies while not playing in Australia for another 18 months sat well with me. But that doesn’t mean I don’t want him to play.

It’s understood that White, who led Exeter to a second straight English Premiership final in June, will be given first crack in the No 9 jersey, with veteran halfback Will Genia likely to come off the bench in the crunch Test.

His immediate recall to the Wallabies caps a remarkable 12 months, after he was headhunted by Rugby Australia’s high performance manager Ben Whitaker a year ago about a return home.

While no guarantees were made to the former Brumbies halfback that he would be drafted straight into the side, his selection is testament to his desire to wear the Wallabies jersey and his accurate, measured performances for Exeter.

“There was a seed planted there and, again, I didn’t think it was something that was going to come to fruition, but once the conversations became more regular I got pretty excited,” White told reporters in South Africa ahead of the Rugby Championship opener.

“I probably thought it was something that was going to be post World Cup with the exodus, but the chance to go to a World Cup came about, and I made a few calls and obviously Exeter had to help out in that regard and they were happy to help, and here I am giving it a crack.”

White’s return will give the Wallabies a new dimension.

Defensively sound, White’s strength is his excellent kicking in general play and his ability to control the ball at the ruck.

But he’s also got a clever running game, as he showed during their heartbreaking 37-34 Premiership final loss to Saracens when he scored the opening try of the match with a cheeky probe close to the line.

Asked how much it would mean to play for the Wallabies again, White said that he hoped he had already shown it by his decision to come home.

  • Hoss

    Breaking news in rugby.com.au that the following players released from wider squad – combination injuries, family and more club time

    – Lilo – shoulder injury, right for FISM Test
    – The SS – abductor injury – right for FISM’s
    – Robertson – ankle injury 2-3 weeks
    – Koroibete – family time
    – Maddocks – play club rugby
    – Valentini – play club rugby rugby

    I guess that means Spanners to 10 unless Two-Cows has trained the house down !

    JOC should maybe now start with maybe Banks on the other flank and Gilbert at 15
    Naisarani would seem a certainty at 8
    HJH probably on bench with Methuselah – you’d imagine an all Pony front 3 to start – with two Tah’s in the pine that maybe gets The Deltiologist in there ahead of Ueleses – based on combo’s.

    Gotta tell you – pending selection brain fades I am getting pumped (bar Spanners – but who knows, maybe he tightens my nuts for a good reason ala 2015 RWC).

    Anyhoo – go you bloody good things.

    • NSWelsham in London

      Good to know Cheika didnt have a massive brain fade and send them home cos of training ability but due to injuries.. nevertheless im super excited and just cant wait to hopefully watch a passionate and proud Wallabies side represent the greatest country on earth this Saturday. Play with pride and more mongrel than you can muster and if we win, brilliant.. lose, well lets discuss that, IF it happens..

      • Dave P

        Are we sure that it is because of injuries? It was only last year that players were sent home for other reasons, not injury related which came out later. If it is injury related what is Cheika doing at training?

        • Braveheart81

          Leali’ifano was carrying the shoulder injury through the end of Super Rugby. Robertson rolled his ankle and Sio strained an adductor muscle at training. Maddocks and Valetini have been sent back to play club rugby because they’re surplus to requirements this weekend. Koroibete for personal reasons.

        • AllyOz

          personal reasons for Koroibete … is it a baby being born or something?

        • Braveheart81

          The baby was born before he flew to South Africa (he stayed behind in Australia and then joined the squad late). Hopefully everything is fine; I genuinely have no idea. It seems unusual for him to stay home for the birth, fly to South Africa to join the squad and then fly home again before the test when he was a pretty obvious starting XV player.

        • AllyOz

          Yeah well maybe something else too it. Does sound a little less than straight forward.

    • Max Graham

      I don’t reckon they’ll go with a small back 3. Koroibete has a hard working (chasing kicks, crash balls) role – they’ll need someone to cover that. Not sure how it will work with the cattle in the squad. Hodge? fml
      AAC? Better, but big ask with a pacemaker.
      DHP? Just no!!

      They’ve somehow picked a 34 man squad, quietly expanded it to 37, yet one injury might throw many of their usual tactics out the window.

      Considering how poorly Grey’s convoluted defense plan is so easily exposed, maybe this is a great thing. Maybe they’ll resort to what works for every other rugby team on the planet.

      Shame that Valetini didn’t make the first cut. Hope this means they’re going with Dempsey as I’m not convinced LSL has the engine or wheels for 6. Regardless, I think we’ve going to see a well balanced, big, in-form pack. I’d start with Uelese but definitely see the value in leading with the ponies’ front row and swapping them out with the Tahs in the 2nd half. If that means Tupou and HJH miss out, it’s a great sign of depth.

      But my happiness will be short lived if they don’t start with SK and TK in the centres. And if Hodge gets on the field I’ll be making the requisite changes to the old blue voodoo doll.

      • Hoss

        100% with you Max. The two K’s MUST start otherwise Cheika has learnt nothing from 2018. I can’t find room for Hodge in my 23 for this one – especially as i expect a 6-2 bench with Sánchez and Two-Cows as backs cover. Which is why I reckon JOC starts – he can play 11,12,14 or 15 more effectively than Hodge can play any of those and offers cover in an emergency. At altitude we have Bastards for long range kicks anyhow.

        Love what AAC bought to hold over the years but that chapter has closed – he can’t be in 23 and Sauce is not up to it – certainly not ahead of Bastards or JOC.

        Edit – I am yet to be convinced about FKA – he goes missing at test level. He could and should be very good test player but…..give me Dempsey any day.

        • Geoffro

          Reckon he’ll run out Sauce for his perceived “safety under the high ball” cause Jantjes is likely going to do plenty.Shame really , there goes the counter as it will just be booted straight back down their throats

        • Custard Taht

          Agreed about the two K’s. The question is, which K starts outside Kurtley, or will see the KKK’s?
          Irregardless, with Koroibete, Kurtley, Kerevi and Kurindrani making up 4/7 of the backline, they wallabies should become the Kellogs Special K Wallabies.

        • Who?

          That last name only works if you can squeeze Karmichael Hunt into the backline, too…

      • Who?

        “Yet one injury might throw many of their usual tactics out the window.”
        .
        I’d agree, but I don’t think we can be sure. Because they’ve publicly stated on multiple occasions that we have both new attacking structures (designed and implemented by Cheika, to be managed by Berne) and defensive structures (another genius Grey design, apparently!). So, to take them at their word and believe they’ve got new structures, we haven’t seen what the ‘usual’ tactics might be.
        .
        The only advantage for Hodge on the field is that, whilst Gilbert knocked over that penalty in Bloem from 45-50m out, Hodge, at that altitude, he might kick one from our own 22!

        • Geoffro

          White has that big boot-no need for Hodge.

        • Who?

          Very true – just pointing out the one area where Hodge would be valuable (because a second big boot isn’t ever a bad thing), not advocating for his selection or otherwise.

        • Geoffro

          It would be nice if a few more of our guys could kick long and it’s something that seems to have gone out of players games these days for whichever reason

    • onlinesideline

      you’re a funny bugger

    • Huw Tindall

      Ah I just posted this same news 7 hours too late….

      Agree with your view on the likely side and am pumped for game day. I’ll be in Sardinia so will take time out from pasta and bronzed beauties on the beach for a 4pm afternoon kick off local time with a Moretti or two.

      • Hoss

        I’ll see your Sandinia and raise you Doritos and Sour Mash at the Ponderosa.

        • Geoffro

          A lot cooler and quieter in the Hunter,a good bet

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      So where are you putting JOC? He’s developed as an inside centre over the last few years so I’d suggest wing isn’t his best position as the skillsets are quite different.

      • Hoss

        I would play him at 15 myself mate to transition him back into test rugby but I don’t think Segall can leave Gilbert out – he’s addicted to him and you can’t have Hilbert and Hodge in your 23.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          So if he’s at 15. Where’s Gilbert playing?

        • Brisneyland Local

          Hopefully left right out!

        • Hoss

          Bencharoonie. I actually see value with him on the pine as cover for 10-15.

    • Braveheart81

      I think Kepu will be the reserve LHP and Tupou the reserve THP. I can’t see HJH playing after being flown over midweek.

      • Hoss

        Yeah mate – i forgot The Abattoir was there. Have to agree. HJH flown in as emergency cover for the wider squad.

        • Braveheart81

          Your nicknames are getting out of control.

        • Yowie

          Yeah, Roy & HG would like a word about you pinching their concept Hoss.

        • Hoss

          Imagine them doing a RWC coverage – like the Dream.

          Fave line was when the Kiwis got first gold in rowing – ‘kiwis are always at their best sitting down going backwards’

        • Yowie

          Some years ago they did some sponsor-driven simulcast coverage of a Wallabies test. You needed to muck about with devices to make it work.

          Ultimately it became apparent that they know league and league players about 100x better than they know/love any other sport. The Union simulcast wasn’t a patch on their State of Origin simulcast (which was an absolute joy). I loved Roy’s hype-up comment on Willie Mason warming up on an exercise bike on the sidelines “That’s where he does most of his DAMAGE!”

          A “The Dream” style late night wrapup show would work for RWC much better than “live” coverage of rugby for those guys.

    • Sevenwithasixonmyback

      Thoughts on dragging HJH across with only two days to aclimatise to both timezone and altitude?

      • Hoss

        To be honest mate – i totally forgot about the Abattoir already being there. He starts ahead on The Tah’s Ranga.

        HJH flown in as cover i reckon.

      • Geoffro

        The SARU has refused to supply the Wallabies with any tackle bagsscrum machines

    • Jason

      Spanners? — Foley?

      • Hoss

        Yep. Every time he touches the ball my nuts tighten (Spanner) in anticipation of a cluster-fuck.

        • Geoffro

          Hes definitely not a Siddy because they guarantee a replacement when they’re broken

        • Who?

          Or that American brand… Which would be turned into a double entendre faster than I can type!

        • Geoffro

          Do you mean “Snap-on” or “Flange Wizard” :) :)

        • Jason

          To be fair you’d probably bust a nut if you saw QC playing with those centers!

    • Sam

      No wingers anymore….. that’s right anyone can play on the wing. Don’t worry, we have plenty of centres and fullbacks, they’ll do!

      • Hoss

        They are all fluff anyway – only there to move the scrum around.

      • Mart

        No finishers? Surely Niavalu should be there. Looks like they’ll play 3 fullbacks, grrrreeeaaat

    • Hoss

      Gotta tell ya folks – i have half a chubby sitting at my desk – and were off

      1. James Slipper (86 Tests)

      2. Folau Fainga’a (7 Tests)

      3. Sekope Kepu (103 Tests)

      4. Izack Rodda (17 Tests)

      5. Rory Arnold (19 Tests)

      6. Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (11 Tests)

      7. Michael Hooper (c) (91 Tests)

      8. Isi Naisarani*

      9. Nic White (22 Tests)

      10. Bernard Foley (68 Tests)

      11. Reece Hodge (33 Tests)

      12. Samu Kerevi (vc) (25 Tests)

      13. Tevita Kuridrani (58 Tests)

      14. Dane Haylett-Petty (30 Tests)

      15. Tom Banks (3 Tests)

      Reserves
      16. Jordan Uelese (2 Tests)

      17. Harry Johnson-Holmes*

      18. Taniela Tupou (11 Tests)

      19. Rob Simmons (94 Tests)

      20. Jack Dempsey (10 Tests)

      21. Will Genia (100 Tests)

      22. Matt To’omua (42 Tests)

      23. Kurtley Beale (83 Tests)

      • Brumby Runner

        I wonder what the story is about Allan Ala’alatoa who is widely regarded as one of the best THPs in the whole of Super Rugby? Maybe he played to hard through the season and is in need of a rest.

        Good to see Banks get a start and at 15 not on the wing.

        • Hoss

          Foot injury mate – not considered. According to RA presser

        • Who?

          There’s a lot of sudden injuries, and not much mentioned about it. The news guys on here are generally all across that sort of thing, but we didn’t hear about Sio and Leali’ifano flying back to Perth, or the other guys who are injured (like Robertson). It’s unusual, and makes it all feel very hush-hush.

        • Hoss

          Was all over SMH & Rugby.com.au last nite mate – late, around 11, after the GAGR guys posted their stories. Think the injuries are just the end of a long SR season and a chance to knock over a few niggles before the big dance. It was reported that some weee existing injuries and some were from the training paddock. No conspiracy just some sensible management

        • Who?

          I didn’t think there was a conspiracy, just noting how quiet it was. And it’s fair enough – a number of the guys are Brumbies, who had an extra two weeks over the other guys.

      • sambo6

        Welll at least the slowest wing pair in test history both have a decent hoof…..they can kick it back instead of running….at altitude maybe that even qualifies as a game plan?

        • Hoss

          Wouldn’t be my first choice wingers, I would have had JOC and one other. But, the forwards are ok and we can make do with the fairies on the fringes for now. Look for JOC, Koribete and Maddocks to be on the fringes in Brissie

        • sambo6

          I dont mind the look of the pack, but they need to be accurate with blasting bodies off the ruck, as there’s no one in that pack who’s what you would describe as an ‘on-baller’. Plnety of big flying bodies is wahts needed to make sure ruck ball is clean, and theirs is not in that case….

        • The Jackal

          Get a fit Jordan Petaia on a wing, guy is going to be a weapon immediately

        • Hoss

          Love to see him at Brissie

        • Who?

          As I’ve mentioned elsewhere on here, it’s back to the future! To 2015, where we fielded AAC and Horne on the wings, battling this pair for the slowest in history.

      • The Jackal

        So squad members not selected =
        Allan Alaalatoa
        Adam Ashley-Cooper
        Luke Jones
        Marika Koroibete
        Tolu Latu
        Christian Leali’ifano
        Jack Maddocks
        James O’Connor
        Joe Powell
        Tom Robertson
        Scott Sio
        Rob Valetini
        Liam Wright

        • Hoss

          Yeah mate – in order as above
          – injures – not considered
          – form
          – form
          – family
          – form
          – injured 1 week
          – form – play club rugby
          – bit early – odds-On for Brissie
          – form
          – injured – 2-3 weeks
          – Injured – 1 week
          – form – club rugby
          – investment/ cover for Poey.

  • NSWelsham in London

    For an apparent B Team from the Boks they sure know how to pick a good team.. (apologies for the Northern way of presenting teams, idiots….)

    15 Warrick Gelant, 14 S’bu Nkosi, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 1 Beast Mtawarira, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 4 Eben Etzebeth (c), 5 Lood de Jager, 6 Rynhardt Elstadt, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 8 Francois Louw

    Replacements: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 Lizo Gqoboka, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marvin Orie, 20 Marcell Coetzee, 21 Cobus Reinach, 22 Frans Steyn, 23 Dillyn Leyds

    • Geoffro

      They’ve got a speedy back three and expect plenty of kicking from Jantjes but as usual their intent is to try and monster us with their heavyweight pack.Our forwards are really going to have to bring their A game but dont think we’ll be scoring many tries focusing on the rolling maul as many sites have touted.I hope that intent is just a smokescreen put out by Cheika.

    • Hoss

      One good hit, legal or not on Jantjies by one of our loosies (I’d be happy to give away 3 points in the process) and he will do his best QC impersonation – he is as mentally fragile as they come.

      • Keith Butler

        Oft quoted “ get your first tackle in early, even if it is late”. A little rib tickler will do the job.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Direction that was given to me by almost every coach I played for. Preferably their half so they don’t get 3 points but putting the 10 off his game was critical

        • Hoss

          Yep, hit him hard. To quote the legendary Dr Paul Keating – ‘a soufflé doesn’t rise twice’

      • Brisneyland Local

        As my old coach who was a Marist Brother used to say:
        “Do unto others as they would do unto you! But do it first!”

        • Geoffro

          Typical sardonic remark,They always had some smartarse comment as well before they caned the bejeezus out of you.Loved their footy though.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Brother Julius held the record for the most straps in one term. Unfortunately I was the recipient of them. Had to strap one hand for a week at one stage as he stuffed up and bruised my arm so much even he couldn’t strap it. According to mum and dad it was all my fault

        • Geoffro

          Stoicism was not usually a trait of the canee.You prob moved your hand.Definitely your fault,(regardless of how minor the infraction )

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Hahaha absolutely mate.

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Thanks Sully,
    I’m not so sure Moore is correct on just keep on doing the same thing. It’s an old adage in the gym that “if you do what you’ve always done you’ll get what you’ve always had” and I’m not sure that doing what has got the team from 3 to 6 in world rankings is going to get them far in the RWC. Agree 100% that the leadership group in this team needs to step up, but I think it’s more than just this too.

    I see the SA team is named below. While it might be called a B team, it’s still looking pretty strong. Still I think it has opened up the probability (rather than possibility) of a Wallaby win. I guess it’ll depend a lot on the team that is picked later today.

    Good to see the Brumbies fitting into club rugby and that’ll be good for the teams and I hope flows through into the NRC later.

    • Keith Butler

      Will be interesting to see who Cheika selects. The Saffas will not be a pushover, that pack looks pretty good.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        The anticipation is immense. Both for his team and the inevitable comments on it

  • Patrick

    Wtf is Moore on and where can I get some?

    • Jason

      I mean he’s not saying the Wallabies will win the RWC so he’s got some gooooood stuff left…

    • AllyOz

      He works in the cattle industry these days so maybe he got kicked in the head by a bull

      • Patrick

        Best theory yet

  • Huw Tindall

    Just in:
    Sio, CLL, and Tom Robertson have all returned home with niggles accompanied by Marika (new baby) along with Maddocks and Valentini (released for club duties).
    https://twitter.com/BMcSport/status/1151450232850223104

    Sio and CLL are a bit disappointing as was looking forward to the Brums boys getting a run. They’ve flown over HJH as a back up which is a big deal for him in what was a breakout year for him at the Tahs this year. Assuming Tupou is OK after the robbery I don’t expect him to play and it’ll be 7As, Kepu, Slipper and Tupou taking the Springboks on.

    All in all I still think we’ll put out a strong side with the bulk of the Brums tight 5 backed by a properly balanced backrow and some Kerevi Kurindrani hard running centre pairing. Bring on match day!

  • Brisneyland Local

    Morning GAGR’s. Well now we get down to the pointy bit. Some random thoughts:
    – Ok those players sent home to recover. Hopefully none of it from beach hill sprints with a DJ.
    – With Spanners at 10, we cant have Gilbert in the backline. Our defence is weak enough as it is, but carrying two players that are shite in defence against the Dutch Dirt Farmers will be a liability.
    – Looking through the DDF team list. Whilst a few of their key players are out they still have some serious quality there. Up front they are strong.
    – Have to play to the Two K’s in the centre’s now. Unless cheika goes for the Crazy Ivan and plays Spanners at 10, and Gilbert at 12, bumping Kerevi to 13. Arghhhh!
    – I am putting my goat curry on tonight so it cooks for 48 hours. Cant watch the game without a good goat curry.
    I am not yet negative or positive until I see what Seagal announces. Then I reserve my right to go ballistic!
    Over to you GAGR’s!

    • Keith Butler

      That Saffa pack looks pretty good with a strong back 5 and Esterhuizen and Kriel are no mugs at 12 and 13. It will not be the walkover that some are expecting. All depends on who Cheika selects. It’s Two Ks or nothing. Go the G&G.

      • Brisneyland Local

        The DDF’s have still named a very formidable pack around backrowers Francois Louw and Pieter-Steph du Toit, really good locks Eben Etzebeth and Lood de Jager and 107-Test prop The Beast. Yep they are not a walkover.

      • Geoffro

        It is a strong backrow but a q mark over their match fitness to our advantage.Reckon K and K could cause havoc against their two who I dont rate at all.If this game were played in Brissy or Sydney I would predict a decent win by us but think it will be close.

      • Hoss

        I actually dont see too much concern apart from Etzebeth and Louw. The Beast is a figment of imagination and well past his best – th erest, honest plodders. Jantjies is an absolute week link and the rest – meh.

        Aussies by 21 – with one caveat – Segalls selections !!

        • Brisneyland Local

          That is a fucking big caveat! ;-)

        • John Tynan

          caveat being latin for “gap”?

        • Brisneyland Local

          Absaloodle.

        • Brumby Runner

          And Grey’s defensive system.

        • Hoss

          Lock it in – Aussies by 21.

        • Not sure I agree with the margin but I think it’s there for the Wobs to win.

          The issue, as always, will be how the packs match up I think. A second-rate Bokke pack, particularly a second Bokke back-row could have the beating of what is basically a rookie Aussie back-row. I know Hooper’s got a load of caps but as a unit they’ve no experience playing together. It’s got to be done but it could be painful.

          Jantjies vs Foley… Foley basically never fires but plods along. Jantjies is hit and miss. If he fires… we could be in trouble, if he doesn’t, there should be enough talent around the park to see us home.

        • Hoss

          Have since moderated my prediction to 16. As long as it’s 13+ I will be completely satisfied and rather drunk in Brisbane next week.

        • Keith Butler

          I sense you have made a small wager.

        • Hoss

          I may have parlayed a modicum of folding at the juicy odds of $7.50

        • I’ve seen, I’m catching up after our first visitors with the bathroom finally fixed.

          I think that might be achievable but it’s on the high side for my comfort level tbh. And up here in neutral land I can get good odds for a SA victory too.

        • Hoss

          Do I sense a small B&B enterprise EP? Always looking for lodgings on northern adventures and a working toilet, that’s 4 star material.

        • No, we just moved house and it needed some work (like a new bathroom – the old one was functional but little more). My mum and dad came to visit the week after the bathroom was finished.

          Visitors, not paying guests I’m afraid.

        • Hoss

          Enjoy.

          There’s no logical reason to be so bullish about our chances, but it’s the vibe. The team is the best available factoring injuries, the selectors influence is evident, also there is Cheika having more time and influence in tactics. He will have this side for near 3 months and he will manipulate a siege mentality and he is nothing if not a shrewd man manager.

          Reading today he has also said he intends to stay on if we win the World Cup. I think on all available evidence Cheika is a proud man, he’s smarter than given credit and he thrives on tournament type events and at the very least I am prepared to emotionally invest in the idea that we have a chance to do something a bit special.

        • Fans and logic don’t go together! As I’ve commented in one of the posts I’m catching up on, I’ve graded the team list a B+, far better than I’ve given any other team list from Cheika in years. I’d have given it an A if I wasn’t worried about the whole of the back three being on the slow side. (I would also not have sent QC home if I wasn’t sure Lilo would be fit for this match and I’m worried about the number of injuries to props but that’s hasn’t caused me to mark him down.)

          Honestly, I need to see how this squad goes before I’ll feel willing to emotionally invest in a good result in Japan. My gut is saying NZ v Wales in the final. Two of England, SA and Argentina as the losing SF sides. That’s based on 6N form and a bit on how the Boks seemed to be building last year and how the Jags came together this year. But… get a decent group that gels, a balanced back row of test quality players (not necessarily world class, just balanced and genuine test quality), get the back three right, and get the half backs right and I’m prepared to buy in.

          I’m just once bitten, twice shy of Cheika. My gut says that, like Fast Eddie, he has a fast but diminishing impact. He was great in 2015, where he was new, he could weave his magic. Now… he’s been there too long and his impact has ebbed away. Cheika might get some of it back – like Jones he’s revamped his coaching team. But he’s done it under protest and arguably kept the weakest link in Grey. So… not hopeful. Not yet.

        • Keith Butler

          A very fair summary. If the Boks win the forward battle their back 3 could be the deciding factor.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      The anticipation of the team from Cheika is palatable. I can sense everyone gearing up and ready to respond. I almost can’t wait

      • Brisneyland Local

        I am doing finger warming exercises.

        • Hoss

          You’ve heard of the ‘#metoo’ movement haven’t you mate ??

        • Brisneyland Local

          Are your finger warming exercises using a lead crystal glass? Mine are !

        • Hoss

          Phew – that’s a relief. Was going to start calling you Harvey there for a minute.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Nope! No worries there. Corking and uncorking my single malts and drumming my fingers on the glass whilst I imbibe. That is my warming up!

        • Hoss

          Me too. You know there will be no middle ground with Segall. We will have quorum of consensus on here tomorrow or a lynch mob…. …

          Mandrake said some insightful comments on rugby.com.au in the JOC article (quietly impressed that JOC himself insisted on the behavioural clauses in his contract by the way) about the dynamic of the 3 selectors – earl;y days but its off to a good start.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I am hoping so. JOC’s grandparents live next door to my folks. They are lovely people!

        • Brumby Runner

          ??? Is he perhaps likely to have addressed the issues we all know about but left some others in the darkness where he can cross the line without hampering his contract?

        • Hoss
        • Who?

          Often the quorum of consensus and the lynch mob are the same thing… In fact, over the years, they’re more likely to coincide than have either on its own, regardless of who the coach might be.

        • Hoss

          ‘Its a fine line between pleasure and pain’

        • From NooZealand

          But one is longer than the other.

        • Yowie

          Although there is some chat about Catholic school discipline going on elsewhere on the page today. I’m bracing myself for that to get pretty dark.

        • Hoss

          Staying right out of that one. It’s why i hate red wine today – i used to to drink it on Sundays to wash the taste of Cardinal cock out of my mouth.

        • Yowie

          I don’t want to hear what you did in 2018

        • Geoffro

          Heh,heh, kissing the bishops ring doesnt sound so bad now

      • Geoffro

        palatable ?

        • Keith Butler

          Palpable but possibly unpalatable.

        • Yowie

          KRL chose an erogenous word.

        • Keith Butler

          My zones are palpitating.

        • IIPA

          Well here we go…
          https://wallabies.rugby/news/2019/07/18/Wallabies-name-first-team-of-2019

          Probably not too much to argue with in light of the injuries ( now incl Alaalatoa ) though really not sold on LSL at 6 and that’s a backrow that doesnt look super strong at contesting rucks.

          But it’s a good sized pack and fairly impressive looking bench.

          No JOC is curious but maybe he needs another week or two. Hodge and DHP as our wingers does suggest we are really lacking in this area… I mean any of the Force’s wingers – Davies, Uyen or Lacey are better pure wingers and infinitely quicker. I guess wing is no longer about being fast enough to score in the corner, though tell that to the Argies or Sth Af.

          Interesting… and very excited to see how we go. I actually dont mind White/Foley… Lord knows Genia/Foley hasnt worked last few years.

        • Who?

          Maybe they were too far advanced with planning to be confident that Thorn would sign in time for JOC to get a run?
          Fascinated Gilbert’s on the bench…
          .
          Genia/Foley hasn’t worked, Phipps/Foley hasn’t worked… Not sure the scrumhalf’s been the issue in a misfiring backline.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          OK I’m stupid and I got it wrong. Still at least it gave people something to write about lol

        • Geoffro

          Now you’ve given yourself up,I would have run with it :)

        • John Tynan

          It worked for me.

        • From NooZealand

          I think you got it right: “(of food or drink) pleasant to taste.
          e.g. “a very palatable local red wine”
          I think they are just teasing you.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          I can almost taste it

        • Keith Butler

          Je comprend.

    • UTG

      Beale’s tackle percentage was better than Banks this year. If JOC had been playing 15 up north I’d play him at 15 but he’s been playing 13 mainly unfortunately. Not sure who else’s been in better form than Beale who we can start at 15.

      • Brisneyland Local

        I for one dont think Beale’s form has been that good to be honest. He has had one or two good games. But has not been consistent this season. Who ever we put there needs to be good under the high ball. Razzie was interviewed yesterday and stated he was relieved he no longer had to counter the threat of IF. So now they know we dont have the high ball player I am sure they are going to use that threat against us.

        • UTG

          This is why I think DHP will likely play at 14, although he wasn’t always that good under the high ball this year.

          I thought Beale was pretty good at 15. He was ahead of Banks in line-breaks, linebreak assists and offloads. Whereas Banks was ahead of him in run metres and tries. I like Banks but I think with Kerevi and Kurindrani at 12 and 13 and with Foley or CLL at 10 we would better suited to having Beale at 15 for of a play-making option. I’d quite like to see Banks at 14, where he can use his pace and kick return ability.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yeah well we know SPanners is at 10 because CLL has been sent home with an injury. Cheika loves having two play makers. But that is primarily due to his primary playmakers sucking. Definitely want K&K at 12&13. I think possibly JOC at 15.

        • Braveheart81

          This has been the case forever. The small periods of time we opted for a non-playmaking 12 under Robbie Deans (Pat McCabe) were dire in terms of our attack. Every 10 we have has played better rugby with a playmaking 12.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Probably true. But I also think that is based on the game plans we played. Kerevi is not a playmaker per se, and I want to see him at 12. Which means either an outside centre playmaker which is very non-traditional or a 15 as a second playmaker , which will possibly be Beale. But that second playmaker (Beale) brings a defensive liability to our team already trying to overcome the defensive liability of Spanners.

        • UTG

          I know CLL is injured but even so he and Foley are pretty like for like in terms of play-making. Solid distributors but nothing too flashy and both benefit from another guy who can step up to the plate when necessary.

          I don’t think it’s that unusual for top tier international teams to play with multiple play-makers. England have played with Farrell and Ford and NZ with Mckenzie and Barrett. I wouldn’t mind JOC at 15 but not sure he’s been playing there enough recently.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I agree. The only difference is CLL can defend like a bastard, where as Spanners is a turnstile. JOC at 15 I think would be good, have gilbert off the bench in the last 15-20. JOC i think is faster than Beale these days.

        • Braveheart81

          CLL’s defence this year has been excellent and he made easily the most tackles for a 10. Foley was second though in tackles made and his tackle success is pretty solid amongst 10s in the comp. Certainly nowhere near a turnstile.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Yeah I looked up those stats too and was surprised a little. I watched every Tahs game this year, and noted some of the tackles that Foley let through and how soft they were. But the numbers are there. Overall his percentage is close to CLL, but watching CLL he defended so well, and I just dont have the same view that Spanners did. Maybe just perception.

        • John Tynan

          That’s how I remembered it too, even with a maroon eyepatch.

        • adastra32

          The Farrell/Ford combo has not been a 1st choice England option for some time. At best, it is now a tactical option.

        • UTG

          Yep, I acknowledge that but it was a combination for a good period and they played pretty well with it. Just saying playing a second ball player in your backline isn’t a Wallaby exception.

        • adastra32

          Agreed. It is the quality and compatibility of the cattle being used that is, I think, the WBs’ issue. The 2nd playmaker option still exists for England by having Slade at 13 which seems to work.

        • Who?

          Agreed. The issue with our second playmaker at 12 hasn’t been that Beale’s a poor attacker at 12, it’s that he’s a poor defender, and our 10 isn’t the primary playmaker. If you look back to the later Larkham era (playing with Flats or Gits at 12) RWC 2007 (Barnes at 10, Gits at 12), then the early Deans era (Gits or Cooper at 10, Barnes/Cooper/Gits at 12), and even the Link era (particularly EOYT 2013 – Cooper/Toomua at 10/12), we’ve done fine that way. But the difference is that those guys all defended at 12. Beale doesn’t.
          That said, the ideal is to have a Horan/Nonu at 12… And Kerevi’s the closest to that player at present.

        • UTG

          I don’t think the attack has necessarily been that good though with Beale at 12. They were far too lateral most of last season, which has as much to do with the structure as it has to do with the 10 and 12. I thought last year our cover defence was worse than our frontline defence which was also a product of a poor system (that’s not to excuse Beale’s defence which isn’t up to scratch at 12). Agree, Kerevi is the closest to the Nonu/Horan ideal and, judging by the fact he is VC this match, is obviously going to be the first choice 12 with daylight second this season.

        • Who?

          I agree with all of that. My point was more that the problem with a ‘playmaker’ at 12 hasn’t so much been that it’s been a playmaker at 12, it’s been selection and game plan all round. Selection, because our 12 couldn’t defend there (you can shuffle one inside back to the backfield in defence, but not two), but I agree on tactics in attack. It’s kind of crazy, because Beale’s clearly a more threatening ball runner than Toomua, but Cooper/Toomua was so much more effective for the Wallabies (obviously not recently!) than Foley/Beale was for the majority of its tenure.

        • Geoffro

          Shame if they put DHP at 14 because he can catch a high ball,happier for someone there quick enough to cover their speedy back 3.Beale as a counterattacking fullback is fine by me but I dont really want him taking on too much of a playmaking role either

      • Keith Butler

        Did get some game time at 15 but as you say mostly in the centre.

      • Sam Pahl

        I don’t know where you got this one from. I just went through three different sites to get 2019 tackle statistics, and Banks won every single time. Both Foley, and to a lesser extent Beale, are a defensive liability, especially as the plan ends up being trying to hide them away.

        • Braveheart81

          Fox Sports has Beale 69.2% and Banks 69.1%. Nothing in it according to that site but certainly the theory that Banks is a massively better defender doesn’t really stand up. With Koroibete going home hopefully Banks gets a start on one wing. He’s the closest we have to a strike winger in the squad now. I expect Beale at 15 and DHP at 14.

        • Sam Pahl

          The interesting part is that we don’t have any real specialist wingers other than Korobeite in the squad. I don’t think fullbacks playing winger is the answer.

          My numbers have:
          Banks 69.2% vs Beale 64% from rugby.com.au
          Banks 72.0% vs Beale 70.0% from rugbypass
          Banks 68.0% vs Beale 65% from the super rugby app.

        • UTG

          Ok, that looks pretty consistent. Fox Sports is giving Beale the slight edge but there’s always going to be noise with these stats. Either way, there’s no huge discrepancy between the two, not enough to justify playing Banks over Beale on defensive capabilities.

        • John Tynan

          Waratah Sports, a subsidiary of the Sydney Morning Waratah.

        • UTG

          You surely don’t go reading a publication with the name Sydney in it looking for a non-NSW slant do you?

        • John Tynan

          You’re right, I don’t go reading it..
          If I need unbiased reporting with no agendas, I’ve always got the paragon of virtue the Courier Fail.

        • Yowie

          also known as the Broncos Mail.

          To be fair to the Murdoch press, nothing beats The Australian when you need a broadsheet to protect the garage floor during an oil change.

        • Braveheart81

          I agree regarding the specialist wingers. All I can think is that Koroibete returning home is unexpected. I think Banks is a better option on the wing than Maddocks given current form so not unhappy that he could be in line to play there and Maddocks has gone home.

        • Brisneyland Local

          That is interesting. thanks for that!

        • UTG

          Check Fox Sports, chief.

    • Happyman

      The countdown is on until BL is off the long run. It will be like Lillee in the centenary test from the Boundary.

      Potential wallaby team
      Slipper
      Latu
      Kepu
      Arnold
      Simmons
      Dempsey
      Hooper
      Valentini
      White
      Foley
      Beale
      AAC
      DHP
      Kerevi
      OConner

      Sorry to poke the bear but I may have missed a NSWelshmen or two.

      • Brisneyland Local

        Valentini flew home to Aus today. So he wont be picked. And yes if he names that team I will go thermonuclear. Not because they are NSWelshmen (As Slipper Isnt) but because it isnt the form team.

        • Keith Butler

          Reminds me of Guy Fawkes Night in SDland. Light the blue touch paper and stand well back.

        • Brisneyland Local

          MAte I still am holding out a small degree of hope that the other two selectors have had “some” influence of the Cheikmeister. This afternoon we will find out.

        • Happyman

          Concur the devil made me name that one.

          The terrible point is he could actually pick it.

          I would go
          Slipper
          Fainga’a
          AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
          Arnold
          Rodda
          Valantini
          Hooper
          Naisarani
          Genia
          Foley unfortunately as LILO has gone home
          Kerevi
          Kurandrani
          DHP
          Hodge
          Banks

          My two cents on form.

        • Brisneyland Local

          I am the same. Now that Sio and CLL have gone home this is it. Slipper is a great substitute as he has had a great year and is an experienced hand. Spanners I am not happy about. BUt it is what it is

        • Happyman

          At the end of the day they could pick the Brothers 6th grade team and they would still be my team. But sometimes over the past 4 years they have made it hard.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Concur 100%

        • Hoss

          I am close to yours
          Slipper
          Fainga’a
          AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
          Arnold
          Rodda
          Dempsey , FKA
          Hooper
          Naisarani
          White
          Foley unfortunately as LILO has gone home
          Kerevi
          Kurandrani
          Banks
          JOC
          Gilbert (personally I’d have JOC at 15, but there you go)

        • Keith Butler

          If he selects Two Ks, which he should, then he’ll have to have KB at 15. Move Banks to the wing and keep Hodge (long range kicker). If it’s a 6/2 bench the White and JOC. With Valantini home could be a toss up between Dempsey and Jones for the 6 jersey. All will be revealed later tonight and no doubt we’ll all be proved wrong.

  • Crescent

    I will be fascinated to see the final selection from Cheika. That said, the alleged SA “B” team still looks pretty damn good for mine. Not a bad tactic from Rassie either in terms of managing travel and getting international exposure to a broader pool of players ahead of the WC.

    The extra week in Johannesburg should prove beneficial in terms of settling in at altitude and getting the stamina right. Here’s hoping the coaching staff have stopped drinking the idiot juice and have cooked up something special for 2019. As much as I wouldn’t mind a new TV, it haven’t really saved for a replacement. If we see the same rubbish as last year, it won’t survive the season.

  • Mart

    So the only person in the team with any pace is Hooper?

    Surely Niavalu should be there to replace Koriabete

    • Mart

      In saying that Banks has pace But again we’ll be playing a fullback on the wing

      • Geoffro

        and a utiity back on the other wing.We’re really lacking in FAST specialist wings that most other tier one countries possess

        • Mart

          It’s madness. We’ll be running 3 fullbacks against some of the fastest wingers going around.

    • Brisneyland Local

      JOC whilst slower than his glory days is still quicker than Beale. But we have no rocket Rod Davies or Digby Ioane up our sleeve.. Mind you Tongan Thor is pretty quick when you have taken his mobile ;-)

      • Braveheart81

        Where do you get this from? Or is this just because you really don’t like Beale?

        • Brisneyland Local

          Correct I think Beale is a disgrace. Not hiding that. But wont be able to tell unless there is a side by side race. However I watched a few of the Sale games and JOC still appeared to have a good step and a degree of pace. Gilbert is certainly slower than he was.

      • Mart

        Super Sefa Niavalu has a heap of pace, whilst he’s os next year like most where is he now?

        • Brisneyland Local

          I cant recall whether he made the broader squad or not.
          Man we so lack smoking pace.

        • Mart

          didn’t see him in it

        • nmpcart

          He’s playing Premier Rugby for Norths in Brisbane, saw him play last weekend.

        • Mart

          waste. he should be on one wing. instead we’ve got 2 fullbacks playing wing. similar styles

      • Who?

        Digby was like Lote – great in contact, great acceleration, but he didn’t ultimately have great top end speed. Unlike Davies.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Very true. Rocket Rod was / is faast. Saw him in an NRC game late last year. He smoked the field. Digby was uber quick of the mark and a great step, but didnt hold the top end speed. But loved watching him in full flight.
          You should see Fiji’s new back. Forget his name but he wears blue headgear so really stands out. He has serious gas.

        • Forceright

          Yup Rod is still bloody fast, even more so since he’s played 7’s. And as a Force player he’s also eligible to play for Wobblies – but then there’s RA/Cheika……… (say no more) Seems Clyne has determined that despite Force players being available they won’t select any if he can help it, unless of course someone got rid of Cheik & Clyne – we can only dream.

        • Geoffro

          Have watched him this year and he seems to be as quick as ever plus a wealth of experience as a finisher-deserves to be in the conversation and would love to see some wheels on the end of the Wallaby backline.

        • Hoss

          You two are kidding.

          Dingo tried him in 2011 and he was a spectacular flop and now he;s like the 38th best winger in Oz.

          As the late great Patches O’Hoolihan once said ‘ I’ve got better runs in my shorts’

        • Geoffro

          Except that 37 of those wingers would never catch him if he got outside them.Who said what-Patches O’Cheika ??

        • Hoss

          Your assuming he would catch the ball first…………

        • Geoffro
        • Hoss

          I remember when my mum made video’s of me too.

        • Geoffro

          Hahaha, I’m sure Mum Hoss was very proud too

        • Keith Butler

          Videos way before my time but have some truely embarrassing photos of me at Broadstairs, wearing 1950 woollen bathers – I was only 5 or 6 though.

        • Who?

          To be fair, Davies’ one and only test was against Alesana Tuilagi. And I don’t think many of our wingers would’ve fared much better against him that day. It was likely playing Nemani Nadolo, Taqele Naiyaravoro, or even Jonah Lomu. But I think closer in style to Lomu than the other two, as Alesana had pace that Nemani and Taqele didn’t have. Manu Samoa did a great job of giving Alesana the ball in space, and the only way you can effectively deal with big guys like that is to crowd their space and get multiple tacklers on. How many times did we see Naiyaravoro drag three guys across the line last year?

    • Brumby Runner

      So, maybe Hooper on a wing and Liam Wright into No 7?

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    1. James Slipper (86 Tests)

    2. Folau Fainga’a (7 Tests)

    3. Sekope Kepu (103 Tests)

    4. Izack Rodda (17 Tests)

    5. Rory Arnold (19 Tests)

    6. Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (11 Tests)

    7. Michael Hooper (c) (91 Tests)

    8. Isi Naisarani*

    9. Nic White (22 Tests)

    10. Bernard Foley (68 Tests)

    11. Reece Hodge (33 Tests)

    12. Samu Kerevi (vc) (25 Tests)

    13. Tevita Kuridrani (58 Tests)

    14. Dane Haylett-Petty (30 Tests)

    15. Tom Banks (3 Tests)

    Reserves

    16. Jordan Uelese (2 Tests)

    17. Harry Johnson-Holmes*

    18. Taniela Tupou (11 Tests)

    19. Rob Simmons (94 Tests)

    20. Jack Dempsey (10 Tests)

    21. Will Genia (100 Tests)

    22. Matt To’omua (42 Tests)

    23. Kurtley Beale (83 Tests)

  • Geoffro

    After my ranting about pacy wingers today now it’s official that we will start this game with just about the slowest pair of wings fielded in a test I can remember in DHP and Hodge.(Maybe they’ll be faster at altitude)

    • Keith Butler

      Maybe they should do what the swimmers do and shave down. Could add a few kph to their top end speed and improve acceleration.

      • Geoffro

        Nah,give em a curly dark mop , thats what all the speedsters are sporting these days

    • Who?

      Slowest wingers since the 2015 RWC..? Maybe Cheika’s going back to the future..? Because back then it was Horne and AAC.
      To be fair to Hodge, I think he’s actually got a bit of pace. But he’s pretty tall, so his pace comes from stride length – he doesn’t look like he’s flying, but if he’s fully fit (and some of his chases last year looked like he was favouring a leg, sore hammy), he looks to have good top end pace.
      .
      Doesn’t mean I think he should be a first choice wing, though….

      • Geoffro

        Apart from his average pace he just isnt agile enough in my book,have seen him turned inside out badly a few times.Having said that I hope he makes a fool of me and plays a blinder

        • Who?

          I think that agility is probably the bigger issue with him. As mentioned, I think he’s got some top end gas, but I don’t see him as being the quickest accelerating runner, and far from the most agile. He’s at his best when he can run a hard line, the way Mortlock used to do.

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