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Thursdays Rugby News sees The Wallabies side is in, A new coach for the Tahs, New signings at the Rebels, and a Foley supporter.


 

 

WALLABIES SQUAD IN 

Petaia set for a Wallabies debute

Petaia set for a Wallabies debute

Another day another Wallabies side named.

Michael Cheika has made sweeping changes to his starting XV, including 12 changes and a debutant.

Allan Alaalatoa, Michael Hooper and Dane Haylett-Petty were the only players from the starting XV against Wales to retain their starting spots, with DHP being shifted to the wing in favour of Kurtley Beale at full back.

It is another change to the halves pairing this week with Nic White and Christian Lealiifano named at 9 and 10, despite being dropped after the match against Fiji. Cheika might have made his decision on Lealiifano being his player maker for the tournament, after Matt To’omua was named at inside centre, despite a standout performance filing in for Bernard Foley. 

Teenager Jordan Petaia is set to make his debut, replacing Marika Koroibete, where he will become the youngest Wallaby to play in a World Cup. Wallaby fans will be excited to see what X-factor Petaia can bring, with there being much hype around the youngster.

Folau Fainga’a, Jack Dempsey, Tevita Kuridrani, Rob Simmons, Lealiifano, and Petaia will all start although none were named in the 23 to face Wales, whilst James Slipper, Adam Coleman, Lukhan Salakaia-Loto, White, To’omua and Kurtley Beale being promoted from the bench. Taniela Tupou is the new face on the bench this week with Scott Sio rested. 

It will be tough match for the back row, with Cheika putting the Pooper on ice, with Dempsey and Salakaia-Loto looking to cement their spot in the 6 or 8 jersey, with Isi Naisarani being rested.

Sekope Kepu, Rory Arnold, David Pocock, Will Genia, James O’Connor and Adam Ashley-Cooper have all moved to the bench.

Wallabies to face Uruguay

1. James Slipper (93 Tests) 2. Folau Fainga’a (11 Tests) 3. Allan Alaalatoa (35 Tests) 4. Rob Simmons (98 Tests) 5. Adam Coleman (36 Tests) 6. Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (18 Tests) 7. Michael Hooper (c) (97 Tests) 8. Jack Dempsey (12 Tests) 9. Nic White (28 Tests) 10. Christian Lealiifano (23 Tests) 11. Jordan Petaia* 12. Matt To’omua (49 Tests) 13. Tevita Kuridrani (60 Tests) 14. Dane Haylett-Petty (35 Tests) 15. Kurtley Beale (89 Tests)

Reserves

16. Jordan Uelese (6 Tests) 17. Sekope Kepu (108 Tests) 18. Taniela Tupou (16 Tests) 19. Rory Arnold (24 Tests) 20. David Pocock (80 Tests) 21. Will Genia (107 Tests) 22. James O’Connor (50 Tests) 23. Adam Ashley-Cooper (120 Tests)

ANOTHER KIWI COACH FOR TAHS

Waratahs gather under posts v Rebels 2019 (Credit Keith McInnes)

The NSW Waratahs have found their replacement for Daryl Gibson, another New Zealander, Rob Penney.

Penney is the former coach of the New Zealand U20s, who also coached Canterbury to four consecutive premierships in the National Provincial Championships between 2008 and 2011. He also served as head coach of Munster where he was named PRO 12 coach of the year.

“Rob is an extremely experienced coach who embodies the characteristics we identified for our ideal candidate,” said fellow kiwi, NSW Rugby CEO Andrew Hore.

“This position was one which drew a vast level of interest from across world rugby, Rob’s appointment is the result of an exhaustive recruitment process — speaking volumes for the calibre of coach we’ve been able to secure for the Waratahs.

“With a strong history of player development across each of his previous roles, I have no doubt Rob will harness the wealth of talent coming though our pathways and build sustainable success for the Waratahs in Super Rugby.

“Rob understands the connection between our NSW Rugby pathways and competitions and the Waratahs, and is keen to embrace the strategic vision of our entire organisation.”

“This is an exciting time for the Waratahs and I’d like to welcome Rob on board.”

Penney is looking to hit the ground running, as he looks to finalise the Waratahs list after departures of high profile players such as, Bernard Foley, Nick Phipps, Sekope Kepu, Tolu Latu and Curtis Rona, along with the sacking of Israel Folau.

“The Waratahs are an organisation revered throughout world rugby, with a proud history of performance and player development,” said Penney,

“To be given the opportunity to help this playing group get the most out of both themselves as individuals and as a collective is an exciting one.

“I’m looking forward to contributing to the betterment of Australian rugby, ensuring we have a working environment at the Waratahs to foster the young talent already assembled.

“To see players grow, develop and reach their own personal goals is a hugely satisfying part of coaching — one I’m personally looking forward to here in Australia.

“Ultimately, I want our players to represent the jersey with pride and ensure New South Wales continues to be a leader in Australian rugby.”

Penney has a clear vision of the type of players he plans to recruit, and the players he intends to nurture in the current Waratahs squad. A tighthead prop, a ball-carrying forward and a line-breaking outside back are the types of players Penney believes he needs to find success with his new team.

“If those vulnerabilities aren’t covered then there’s a potential for what’s happened in the last couple of years to occur again. In saying that, there’s a wonderful group of young talent coming in and emerging. We’ve got to support those with a bit of maturity as well.”

REBELS SIGN CAMERON, SMITH

The Smith twins

The Smith twins

Thats Cameron Orr and Ruan Smith, Sorry for the confusion. Fair play to the Rebels social media team, it was a good joke.

The Melbourne Rebels have continued their off seasons signing front rowers Cameron Orr and Ruan Smith.

Smith, who will leave his brother and the Queensland Reds, reflected on his decision to move south,

“It’s the club where plenty of players have been given opportunities and that has clearly created a strong culture, that I want to be part of.

“I know playing finals is what all teams want to achieve and I feel the Rebels are on the right path to achieving their expectations and goals.

“The Melbourne Rebels put an emphasis on having a successful culture driven by coaches and players as well.

“I know it will be the perfect environment for me to perform my best with lots of competition in my position.

“I have had a for bit to do with Dave in the past and I know the calibre of coach he is and I’m extremely excited to learn from him and the rest of the coaching staff.

Former Australian U20s prop, Orr is excited to get a crack at Super Rugby, after plying his trade in Europe and Global Rapid Rugby.

“It’s great to get my first crack at Super Rugby after having had a taste of professional rugby in the UK,” said Orr, who spent time with European power house Gloucester before more recently joining the Western Force.

“The Rebels have been making giant strides in the last two seasons and it’s exciting to be a part of that journey.

“I’m really looking forward to mixing it with the Melbourne guys and testing myself in a pack with so many Wallabies,” stated Orr.

“We’re very excited to sure up our front row stocks with Ruan and Cam joining the Rebels,” said Ryan.

“Ruan brings over 60 caps of Super Rugby experience and a professional work ethic that will suit our world class environment.

“Cam’s time in Europe will no doubt have elevated his forward play, particularly around set piece, so we’re excited to see him test himself now at Super Rugby level.

“Together, they offer us both experience and enthusiasm and will make our pack even hungrier as we chase our first finals appearance in 2020.”

 

AN UNLIKELY ALLY FOR FOLEY

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All Black Legend Dan Carter has come out saying he is a huge Bernard Foley fan and is struggling seeing the Australia fly half fall from grace.

Speaking with the Foxsport Rugby podcast, Carter weighed in on the Australian fly half debate.

“I’m a huge Bernard Foley fan and it’s breaking to me see his lack of confidence,”

“He was such a big part of 2015 and the success you guys had.

“He was playing with such freedom.

“But I don’t know whether he’s overthinking little things and is a little bit hesitant.

“And for someone like Matty To’omua to come on the other night and just be direct, decisive — it completely changed the game.

“As a rugby lover — and obviously I follow a lot of No 10s — to see Bernard going through this patch, where I just feel he’s lost that freedom that he used to play with.

“And obviously Christian coming on, he’s had a fantastic year.”

Carter thinks the jersey should stay with Lealiifano going forward, and has also backed Will Genia as one of the best 9s in the World.

“I’d say they’re probably going to stick with him (Lealiifano) but just I love a bit more competition there,” Carter said.

“I just feel like Foley’s overthinking things and he’s lacking that consistent game time where he can get that confidence back.

“And the nines, Will is world class.

“I was a bit surprised to see him not start in those Bledisloe Cup games.

“He’s shown what he can do off the bench as well.

“I guess the problem is they’ve only got a couple more pool games.

“They’ll qualify for the quarters but they need to have a couple of games together, consistently, to build those combinations.

“You can’t be chopping and changing and still have that uncertainty, which I feel like there is at the moment.”

 

  • John Tynan

    I’ve never been the biggest Foley fan, but interesting reflection from someone who presumably knows a little bit about this stuff.
    Could the man-management be so godawful that no-one actually knows anymore what they are supposed to be aiming for to succeed?
    Modern coaching has the emphasis on a process rather than a result – key ways (metrics if you will) that you can measure whether you did what was required, regardless of the scoreboard.
    With a seemingly fanatical fixation on uncertainty and keeping people on their toes, is it any wonder that a bloke is “overthinking little things and is a little bit hesitant”?
    He may not actually know WTF he is supposed to be doing…

    • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

      I think it is as simple as Carter playing against Foley in 2014-15. Over this period Foley played his best rugby and was in teams that often got the better of Carter’s sides.

      • ballymoreburning

        could it be as simple as Foley without Folau or Beale on the pitch has never been effective at any level?

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          He wasn’t effective with those guys post-world cup anyway though.

        • Bobas

          yep, we kept hearing about a cross-field kick to Folau, he did it once in a losing effort against Scotland.
          Then he did it against Wales.
          Another Bernie did it to Tiqiri against England.
          Maybe we should just shelve the cross field bombs until Mogg is back.

        • Seb V

          To be fair, he had a decent running game, thats probably a key area in his game that hasn’t been effective in years. But I also agree, Beale and Folau helped him look good.

        • juswal

          No, it’s not about the players outside him. He was at his best when his forwards were dominating—like all five-eighths.

        • Nutta

          Foley’s success has often been quite correlated to having someone in a strong 6-type role at both Tarts and Wobbly level: Fardy, Potgeiter, Dave Dennis and even Kane Douglas (who played more of 6-type role). The early-phase dominance of the offside line at the breakdown facilitated by those style of players really supported Foleys type of play in allowing the space for the Chek-Ball 1-3-3-1 with pods to serve sweeping 2nd man plays.

        • onlinesideline

          Aside from the win over England and Saffas in 2015 while he was 10 we have lost close to every big match / series against the top 6 teams since 2015 bar one or two. Tarts was the only place he experienced any success.

        • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

          No mate, I don’t think that’s quite true. The Wallabies’ forwards were not ‘dominant’ in 2015. Our line out was weak, we lacked any sort of ball runner and the scrum was pretty good. Our forward was a solid tier 1 pack, nothing more or less.

          Our forwards are far better in 2019. However, despite us being dominant in the line out, slightly dominant in the scrum and pretty even at the breakdown, Foley was really poor on the weekend.

          Of course it is easier for a 10 when the pack is dominant. But it isn’t as if Foley has always played well when our pack has been dominant, or played significantly worse whenever the pack is doing worse.

        • Who?

          Wallabies forwards were dominant in Bledisloe 1 in 2015. We won it, with Foley at 10. But he was playing so deep that Phipps couldn’t hit him on the full with a pass!
          I agree – a 10 is usually better when the pack’s dominant, but Foley’s form variability hasn’t matched the form of his pack.

        • Brumby Runner

          I understood the forwards dominated in the Wales game but both Genia and Foley were under-performers.

    • Custard Taht

      This Wallaby team is being dragged down by the coach, simple as that.
      The team should mutiny like the French did, they will be better off without him.
      Cheika has done some good things, but he peaked at the 2015 RWC, it has been all down hill since, with the occassional false rise.

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        Mate too many rely on Cheika for their continual selection. They won’t mutiny or they will lose their plum job.

        • Too true KRL. I can think of at least a couple of names..

        • Custard Taht

          I see it as we could field a bloody strong 23 who are in the squad on the merit, not because of Cheika.

          In the forwards, Hooper and Latu might have an issue with it, but I think they would still play, becasue honestly, they must be gutted after the loss to Wales.

          In the backs,probably AAC and Beale would have a problem, and well, the backs and the team would be better off without them.

          I have excluded Foley, because I think Cheika has completely fucked him.

          So, I reckon, a mutiny would actually result in the cutting off of the deadwood, and if Hooper and Latu had issue, we can cover them from within the squad.

        • AllyOz

          The players can’t select the team though

        • Custard Taht

          If the French can pull off a mutiny and make it to a world cup final, and nearly win it, why can’t we?
          Just tell Cheika he is a figurehead, and nothing more.

        • AllyOz

          the French have a tradition of mutineering…..

          and they have the famous three mutineers….or was that musketeers?

        • Custard Taht

          I thought it was the the blind mice

        • Who?

          Vive le Revolution!!!
          .
          Or, to quote the greatest cartoon of all time, “To Paris, Pinky, I hear the French are revolting!” “No Brain, they’re just rude! Narf!”
          .
          It’s at this point there’d normally be talk about the Brumbies (get some Brumbies in there, they do that player power thing!), but it was a Tahs revolt that installed Cheik, and only a Tahs revolt could remove him.

        • AllyOz

          with brumbies and ex-brumbies at 9, 10, 12, 13 maybe it’s the weekend to strike. Beale is the only Tah in the run on backs and I am sure someone has pictures of him in a compromising position….no wait, he’s the ones with the photos on his phone isn’t he (must have some of Cheik too)

        • Who?

          Kurtley has no idea what you’re talking about. :-P
          .
          Off topic – any idea when the Grafton Bypass will be open? I’m driving south just after Christmas, the updates on the website are terrible! Last time I came through there, the new Harwood bridge was open one way, but northbound traffic was still on the old bridge…
          Towing a camper – kind of keen not to have to drive the bumpy mess that was the highway in Ulmarra…

        • From NooZealand

          Their loyalty (to whatever they feel loyal to) would not [I believe] would not allow them to do that and leadership is lacking.

        • Custard Taht

          This is true!

        • From NooZealand

          And lack the leadership required to advance their game like the frogs did in 2011.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      My main issue is that he seems to have rested on his laurels knowing that Cheika would always pick him and never seemed to address the obvious deficiencies in his game

      • John Tynan

        Or bafflingly, as a well-paid professional, working on one thing (ie kicking) saw a decline in other things!!

      • Custard Taht

        And unfortunately, this issue is not only confined to Foley.

        Also, it isn’t just Cheika’s fault, the state coaches are probably equally, if not more responsible for the lack of development in the player’s skills.

        Cheika gets them for a handful of weeks each year, the state coaches get them for months.

        • Brumby Runner

          But Cheika still doesn’t have any problems ignoring the best players from the best coached Super team. It’s not just a matter of numbers, but when the Brumbies were out and out best Super team in the country and one of the top 3 or 4 in the whole of the Super competition, then there must be questions raised about the national coach who consistently overlooks some of the better performed players from that franchise.

      • moaning expat

        Yup- he’s never had competition for the spot for a long time I dont think Lalo is that good either. But at least he gave Foley a kick in the arse with Toomua gunning as well. From no comp to 2 after the spot. Morgs in todays Rugby Ruckus podcast. He gives a really good and interesting observational critique of Foleys performance. Have a listen to it (about 15 minutes in) Its food for thought at least.

      • From NooZealand

        One to address one’s deficiencies, must be aware of them. In your profession, you surely know this. Know yourself and know better your enemy; in his case, his weaknesses.

    • Bobas

      I’ve never been the biggest Foley fan

      Why did you get that nard tatt on your nads then?

      • John Tynan

        I find it hard to distinguish between “nard” and “nad” TBH

        • Parker

          The tattooist hid the “r: in a fold

    • AllyOz

      I think it’s possible that with some differences between Cheika and Larkham in the coaching group, and perhaps differences in what strategy was to be employed and how it was to be achieved, that messages were confused and players became unsure of what they were supposed to be doing. Even if there is a simple, single message now it will take time to adapt in style (and the message might still be confusing if its coming from Cheik…I seem to understand him less and less the more I hear). The good thing about it is that, whatever the result is, the current coach will have to wear it now. He has the coaching group and playing group that he wanted so there are no excuses.

    • Nutta

      A bit like Pat McCabe playing outside Quade Cooper?

      • AllyOz

        I didn’t help Pat’s career longevity but that wasn’t QC’s fault. Humans don’t tend to make good battering rams.

        • Geoffro

          All heart that guy,was Dingo’s Foley

      • John Tynan

        I had not thought about that for a lng time. Thanks, Nutta.

        • Nutta

          Fishing… just passing time…

  • D. Braithwaite’s The Brumbies

    As is fairly typical of former players, Dan Carter is rating Foley and Genia by the standards of the Foley and Genia he played against in 2014-15. Every unbiased analyst can see that Genia, while he is still a good playmaker, has lost his running game somewhat, is protecting his body and cannot pass wide from the base – he needs to take steps without engaging the defence. Compare that to White who, at this stage of his career, is much quicker, a better kicker and decision maker and who has a much faster and more accurate pass, which he can use from the base of the ruck without taking any steps (whenever he does step, he engages the defenders like he did in Perth).

    White is one of the best 9s in the world. I’m not sure that Genia is in 2019.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Good points mate. It actually points to the failure of the succession plan more than anything else.

      Carter is just a nice bloke

      • John Tynan

        I find your second sentence hard to believe.
        A good looking rooster, who mastered his skills and the game of footy and loves humiliating people just because they are dressed in gold?
        Can’t be a nice bloke.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Hahahahaha That is true. So maybe a nice guy off the field

        • Custard Taht

          My partner met him once, she can confirm that he is a) “Ridiculously Good Looking”
          b) A nice bloke
          c) Settling for me

        • AllyOz

          you finished second but won the prize

        • onlinesideline

          you can be good looking and nice but that accent balances it all out

        • Who?
        • Geoffro

          Only time i ever saw my teenage daughter interested in rugby was when Dan was involved.nuff said

        • Frosty morning

          I think Frederic Michalak used to engender a bit of female teenage interest…

        • Yowie

          Science says that Sébastien Chabal (the caveman) would get a spike in popularity with women around ovulation. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/272697.php

        • Geoffro

          Yeah,good on him.I look like Santa , and you know what that means

        • From NooZealand

          That is what nice guys do around here. he he he

      • Greg

        I think this is right. As someone who had played against (then) good players it would tear at you to see them hanging on too long.

        Mind you Foley is only 30. Potentially another few good years for him but it is not working in the wobs… or the tahs tbh.

        I wish him all the best and wish also we had put Wales away.

      • Frosty morning

        My wife and I met him once. Try as I did to dislike him, I couldn’t. He is a lovely guy.

        • Greg

          Just remember that he is a kiwi. See? Done!

        • Yowie

          FFS my wife bangs on about Dan Carter too. I used to text message her from live games to say that Dan Carter had just suffered a shocking injury to his face.

          “They come over here to take our jobs and our women!”

        • Frosty morning

          My wife says he is on her “list”. In the event that he ever knocks on our door and asks for her she is allowed to sleep with him, no questions asked.

        • Geoffro

          I’m digging out my DC supporters mask from ’15 as we speak

        • Yowie

          But you put the 22-year-old across the road on your “list” and there is hell to pay. It’s hard to figure these things out sometimes.

        • Frosty morning

          Tell me about it… The wife and I watched the 22 year old from across the road leaving for a night out recently. The wife said “You know, I can really see myself in her.” Without thinking I replied “so can I”. Apparently it wasn’t the right thing to say….

        • Yowie

          haha, gold. There is a great Gary Delaney joke to the effect of:-

          “The young couple next door have made a sex tape.
          Obviously
          they don’t know that yet…”

        • From NooZealand

          LOL – very good.

        • From NooZealand

          Good for them.

    • Patrick

      To be fair he doesn’t actually say Foley should be in the squad either. He actually implies that it should be Lilo+2 cows.

  • Bobas

    Lucky there’s that link to fox sports naming the team…

  • Bobas

    OK largest margin?

    Canberra Vikings v Sydney Rays
    Australia v Uruguay

    SAT 1pm (rugby.com.au stream)
    3:15pm (13 10HD or Kayo/Foxsports)

  • Thanks for your service to WARugby Cameron.
    May you also give Melbourne a jolly good servicing whilst your there. :)

  • Kiwi rugby lover

    Thanks Dylan,

    I’m a bit disappointed that they aren’t working more on establishing some continuity but regardless if the score is not at least a 30 point win them I’ll take it as a fail.

    The Kiwi takeover is going well, pity it’s the coaches and administrators that are being brought in are the ones that can’t get a gig in the NZ Super scene and above. I’m not sure RA are actually getting a good deal here.

    You got me with the heading mate. I was thinking “not another bloody Mungo!” well done on that. Let’s hope the Rebels and Reds both start showing the Improvements on the field that they are showing in their squads.

    Carter just showing what a nice guy he is (off the field as pointed out below)

    • Custard Taht

      I would have no issue with sweeping changes for the backs. As long as they are part of a plan for the knockout stages, to use the Uruguay and Georgia game to bed the combinations in.

      I actually quite like most of the back line picked, I think the 9,10,12,13 combination could actually work really well. The only changes I would make, would be to put DHP at 15 and JOC at 14. I would also then stick with that back line for the rest of the tournament, with Genia, Kerevi and Beale/AAC on the bench.

      Alas, it does not seem that this is the case, so Cheika is just wasting another game to get the backs clicking, because the forwards are doing their job.

      In regards to the forwards, I am not worried about the changes at all, probably just a little surprised at which players are and aren’t getting a rest.

      • AllyOz

        you wouldn’t include Korobeite?

        • Custard Taht

          Not in the starting 15, he has go forward, but has other skill limitations. And against the Poms, we probably need a back 3 who all have a kicking game.

          It was toss up with Beale, AAC and him for the bench, and I would in likelihood, go with AAC for is versatility and better kicking.

        • AllyOz

          He’s not real tall either so might make him a target with diagonal high kicks for the corner. I think he would give away a bit of height to Joe Cokanasiga?? not sure on their other wingers. so you may be right. But he does have pace that none of our other options have so I would probably try and go for MK, DHP, JOC/AAC/JP for that reason.

        • Custard Taht

          Yep, he certainly has value, it would be a difficult decision and balancing act.

        • UTG

          Hmm, I’m not sure. Wales were meant to hit us with a kicking bombardment and we weathered the storm pretty well with Koroibete there. Giving up strike power in the backline for a mediocre kicker to engage in a kicking battle we will inevitably lose doesn’t seem like the best option to me.

        • Custard Taht

          I think the bombardment never eventuated because;

          1. In the 1st half Wales didn’t need to. Through aimless kicking, poor ball security and poor discipline, we kept handing them ball with good field position and a broken field.

          2. In the 2nd half, we had so much possession of the ball, I think it was 71% – 29%, that they didn’t really have the opportunity to do so.

          I can see your argument, and could just as happily have a Marika, JOC, DHP back three.

        • Patrick

          MK, JOC and DHP would work for me within the squad we have. Also, frankly, Hodge played a pretty good game against Fiji.

        • Custard Taht

          I forgot all about Hodge!

        • Patrick

          Poor Hodge… that was quick!

        • Custard Taht

          I am an out of sight out of mind kinda guy.

        • Geoffro

          ?? Marika’s effort under the ball for Wales first try was pathetic (having said that I still see him as our best wing)

        • UTG

          I wouldn’t go as far as to say it was pathetic, he was out of position given that Arnold’s soft high tackle gave them an unexpected advantage. Quite hard to compete when you’re moving backwards on your goal line and the opposition is coming forward. Of course, someone like DHP may have made a better fist of it. However, he defused one in the second half against North which squared it up. We also scored a try ourselves off a cross-field kick in the first half so it’s hard to say we were outplayed with that sort of tactical kicking.

        • Geoffro

          I reckon his contest was poor,it was actually right down his throat and he just made a hash of the contest,jumped early (a hop really) and was outleapt but as you say the player coming forward had the advantage

        • UTG

          Fair criticism, the cross-field kick really is a great tactic close to the line, particularly off an advantage. I’d love to see some of our 10s do some combined sessions with NRL halves in the off-season picking up some of their short kicking skills.

        • Damo

          I have trouble being critical of Marika. I reckon he is giving a red hot go to every playing minute he is on the field. There are some others who could take a leaf out of his effort and enthusiasm. And he wasn’t part of whatever selection group that decided to only take 1 specialist wing into this tournament.

        • Geoffro

          He’s improved out of sight but wasn’t long ago he copped a fair bit of criticism for his shortcomings (mostly related to his positional play).More power to him for his hard work on his deficiencies

        • Patrick

          He isn’t a tah, so there’s that going for him ;)

        • Who?

          That was a pretty well aimed kick… It was only a couple of metres behind him. He was just inside the tryline, nice and wide, off the line because he needed to be ready to come up and make a tackle if the ball went through the hands. But not so far forward he couldn’t defend against a kick through.
          The challenge is when you have a high ball landing on you, with a challenger coming through jumping off a run. You’re never going to outjump someone in that situation. The Welsh kick was actually better than Foley’s one for AAC’s try. Foley’s kick was in front of the Welsh defence, and AAC still had a bit to do. Biggar’s kick, all the winger had to do was jump and land.

        • Geoffro

          had another look and may have been a bit harsh on MK in expecting him to be able to do a Folou impersonation and diffuse that ,it was a beautifully weighted kick.AAC did well on a lesser kick that was easier to catch though. He had about 50 unmarked support inside him after he fielded the ball so if that try wasnt scored he would have been crucified

        • Patrick

          There is no way we are not picking Korobiete for the poms, btw.

    • AllyOz

      Cameron Smith is a pretty young, I’d say at 39 or whatever he is, he would still have a lot to bring to rugby ;)

      • Nutta

        I well remember the palaver accompanying the Andrew Johns comes-to-rugby push back in about 05… and the ‘Willie Mason will smash youse all’ circa 2010.

        • Geoffro

          We all remember how well Slammin’ Sam contributed to Englands ’15 world cup bid as well

      • Kiwi rugby lover

        No he wouldn’t. it’d take him 2 years to learn the rules, another 5 years to develop and change his skill sets and then even more to be instinctive. A complete waste of money if it were to happen

        • AllyOz

          the ;) think was supposed to indicate irony.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          Sorry – off day

        • AllyOz

          i was surprised anyone would have taken that comment seriously to be honest. :)

        • Yowie

          To be fair, signing a 39-year old Mungo wouldn’t even be the most bizarre rugby decision this recent fortnight.

      • Custard Taht

        Agreed, so lets offer him a 5yr $6 million contract.

  • AllyOz

    “Wallaby fans will be excited to see what X-factor Petaia can bring” … This fan is really just hoping he makes it to and through this game without injury to be honest. I am pretty confident that if he does get some regular game time he has both the physical characteristic and the skill level that will see him perform at this level for a long time.

    If Dan Carter is still aligned to the All Blacks it might be in his interests to support the 9/10 combination that isn’t Australia’s best. But I suspect its more as DBTB says that he is talking about the players he played against rather than the ones that are playing now. Foley has some real value when his running game is on – he can generate something from his own play but hasn’t done so for ages. The last part of Genia’s career has similarities to the last couple of seasons of George Gregan’s. Not surprising that a “little man” would get a bit protective etc as he slows up. It no doubt takes a lot to get back up after taking some of the hits etc they take.

    Glad to see the 6/7/8 combination being tried in this game but then I don’t know how relevant they will see it for future selections. If it works they might just say, “yeah but that was against Uruguay”. I would have liked to have seen it tried for part of the game against Wales with one of Pocock or Hooper coming off. LSL can cover the second row option and that would allow us to carry both him and Dempsey on the bench. I would prefer to start with that configuration then go to the Pooper later in the game. KB has been given this as a chance to restore his confidence – but if JP gets through OK then I would like to see them try Korobiete, DHP and JP tried in our final pool game.

    • Patrick

      Note that Carter never said that Foley should play rugby for Australia :)

  • Missing Link

    Thanks DC for curing Foley’s disease

    • Custard Taht

      I might see if Carter is available for Couple’s therapy…..Because according to my Mrs, I lack length and accuracy, so it isn’t my fault, I have Foley’s Disease!

  • formerflanker

    I have never seen Foley give in, go easy, not try, or pull out of contact.
    I have seen him put players into holes, ignite his own after burners, tackle, and kick goals.
    He has worn the Green and Gold with pride, took his demotion with grace and determination to get his spot back.
    Whilst his distance kicking can be criticised, his form analysed and his game management questioned, Foley’s commitment to Australian rugby has been 100%.
    I hope he does a Steven Donald and then exits in a blaze of glory.
    But Rugby is a harsh mistress and that won’t happen.

    • onlinesideline

      True – but rugby has been good to him not harsh. He has enjoyed everything there is to enjoy and then some. But he will always have a crack if he is picked and that is the problem. He should not be picked because at a certain point the coach should glean it aint happin’. No-one has ever disputed he is a top bloke, who has worn the jumper with pride and given absolutely everything. But he is being hospital passed by being selected. The game has moved on and he has reached his limits.

      • Nutta

        There was a great line from John Connelly once; “I don’t blame you mate. I blame the dickhead who PICKED you!”

      • Hoss

        Reading Fox (i know, i know, but i am reading every word during the RWC) and Dickhead Doran, once a Foley apologist, now baying for his blood reports that the Foley selection for the Welsh game was a Captains Call by Cheika and not the selectors and goes onto say that selections are costing us> rich when for years he was a Cheika stooly.

        • onlinesideline

          mate I think it will cost us a good crack at the cup and mean an early exit. Beating 3 heavyweights on the trot is beyond us. Maybe with the bounce of the ball we could have managed 2. But to start with England in the quarters and carry it on from there is unrealistic. We are too unsettled now. France and the 2 heavyweights was doable. But I have to say it cant all be on Bernies shoulders. I thought Genia had a shocker and could be alloted more blame than Bernie becuase he had more dud involvements being a half back and all. The only positive I can extract is that this happened in the pool and not the quarter final

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          They’re all rats leaving the sinking ship trying to distance themselves from the coach with the worst record ever for the Wallabies

        • Ed

          The sycophants at the SMH won’t desert Cheika mate.

        • Kiwi rugby lover

          True

    • Who?

      His commitment to Australian Rugby’s been more like 90% (Japanese sabbatical after the 2015 RWC, when he was the incumbent 10 with his former provincial coach as the new national coach), but he’s been properly humble and gracious at all times. And given his best.

    • doohanfan

      No- one doubts he is a big hearted trier, and he has not uncommonly both put players into gaps and made breaks himself over his career, and had a great game in the Super Rugby final the Tahs won. He has also mostly been an accurate short range goal kicker as well, and I was as pleased as anyone although also shocked when he kicked that long range penalty which won the super rugby final.

      I have watched him for 10 long years as a Waratahs season ticket holder however, and he is just not up to scratch as a line or tactical kicker, nor defensively particularly if the required second tactical kicker is also not strong defensively. Maybe it was a coaching error rather than an error on his part, but I also wondered for years why he didn’t kick it for Folau all the time as he did for the try against Wales.

  • Who?

    I wonder why Ruan’s moving..? Maybe it’s because of Tupou? I mean, not in terms of selection – I just mean in terms of having in physically at the same club.

  • Greg

    Russian 15 just gained 70m on a return of kick. If only we….

  • AllyOz

    so I guess you’re ruling Anthony Mundine’s comeback to play (and dominate) rugby at the age of 43 out too KRL. Gees you’re a harsh critic.

    • Kiwi rugby lover

      Hahahaha true

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