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Thursday’s Rugby News

Thursday’s Rugby news reports on the structure of Australian rugby in the future, as the Shute Shield ramps up heading into finals, while the Western Force announce a marquee signing, and South Africa looks to get out of Super Rugby.


Domestic landscape

Brumbies and Reds at scrumtime.

A second edition of an all-Australian Super Rugby competition in 2021 looks to be on the cards as the future of Super Rugby continues to be shrouded in a Covid-cloud, with tensions between SANZAAR partners at an all-time high.

Despite the potential for a travel bubble between Australia and New Zealand, it is increasingly likely that the two nations will settle for domestic competitions in the short-term. There has been scope for a Champions Cup-style playoffs between the top sides of each respective competition, with the possible inclusion of a Pasifika or a Japanese team.

Rugby Australia still have not locked in a TV deal in for 2021. Hamish McLennan told Sky Sports NZ’s The Breakdown that Rugby Australia had to “get focused on building a new competition for next year and beyond.”

Super Rugby seems to be all but over as we know it, with South Africa looking to get out as fast as they can. The South Africans signed a five-year broadcast to be part of the Super Rugby competition, but are looking to get out of the agreement. Rugby in South Africa only started over the weekend, with a domestic competition slated for October 10.

“SARU (South Africa Rugby Union) has signalled for some time now they were looking at aligning with the northern hemisphere season,” said NZR chief executive Mark Robinson, responding to the news, saying it was “no surprise.”

“All of the SANZAAR partners had agreed to look at more domestically related competitions in 2020 and 2021. During times like these change is inevitable and we need to be willing to adapt quickly.”

What would be the ideal format for a domestic competition in Australia?

Shute Shield action

Warringah’s Josh Holmes runs into defence.

With Super Rugby finished and no international rugby yet, it has been club rugby’s time to shine. The Shute Shield has been producing the goods of late. The competition has been providing its fair share of highlights, with a number of teams still in the hunt.

Chasing a finals spot is the Warringah Rats, who currently sit in eighth place on the ladder. Coach Michael Ruthven set his players the task of winning their final four games a few weeks a go, and if they manage another two wins they could be back in the top six in time for finals. Ruthven admits they will need a bit of luck with other results going their way, but believes his players have the ability, talent and grit to get the job done.

“I said we need to win four games with a bonus point. The rest is a bit beyond our control,’’ Ruthven said after last weekend’s 50-15 victory over the Wildfires.

“We are two from two now in that regards with Eastwood and Norths, two really hard games ahead. But the team has confidence. The team at no stage ever lost their belief.”

Along side them in the chasing pack is Eastwood, who they will do battle with at TG Milner Field this Saturday.

“You have to be bolshie,’’ Ruthven  said.

“You have to go in confident. We are a good football side and if we prepare well and are in a good head space we are as good a chance as any.

“Every week is a grand final for us.

“If we get there it will be good to know we have these tough games behind us and some good momentum.’’’

Marquee signing

Rob Kearney will join the Sea of Blue.

The Western Force have signed Irish international Rob Kearney to a one-year deal.

The 34-year-old fullback made 95 appearances for Ireland, and joins from Pro14 champions Leinster Rugby.

Kearney has been a mainstay in the Ireland team, and his trophy cabinet includes two Grand Slams (2009 and 2018) and four Six Nations triumphs (2009, 2014, 2015 and 2018), and he has been involved in three of their World Cup campaigns.

At club level, Kearney has won six PRO14 titles, four European Champions Cups and a European Challenge Cup since debuting back in 2005.

“I am delighted to be joining the Western Force for their upcoming season and excited to play with such an ambitious club who are looking to improve on this year’s campaign,” Kearney said.

“I hope to add value both on and off the field that complements the high ambition of the club.

“I’m particularly excited to immerse myself in a new performance environment and to play both with and against some of the best players and teams in the southern hemisphere.”

Kearney joins Wallabies duo Tevita Kuridrani and Tom Robertson as new signings for the club.

The Force have also re-signed Kieran Longbottom, Ian Prior, Brynard Stander, Kyle Godwin, and Marcel Brache on new deals.

Heading north

Elton Jantjies flicks it left.

The South African Rugby Union has confirmed it will pull teams out of Super Rugby in favour of playing in Europe’s PRO14 league.

The decision was announced after SARU’s provincial unions voted to defect, and the teams could head north as early as next year if an agreement is reached with PRO Rugby Championship, which runs the PRO14.

It would mean that the Bulls, Stormers, Sharks and Lions would replace the Kings and Cheetahs in the competition and would go up against clubs from Ireland, Wales, Scotland and Italy.

While they have suggested that this will only be for the 2021 season, it would be safe to presume that they want this move to be permanent. The world champion Springboks expect to have their cake and eat it too, confirming their desire to still play Tests against New Zealand, Australia and Argentina in the Rugby Championship.

It has been inferred from the statement realesed by the SARU that they are pointing the finger at New Zealand for the sudden break-up of the southern hemisphere competition.

“Our members are excited about the prospect of closer alignment with PRO Rugby Championship and seeking a northern hemisphere future, but we would not have been taking this decision but for actions elsewhere,” SARU chief executive Jurie Roux said.

“We will advise our SANZAAR partners of the general meeting’s decision.”

Of course, its not hard to read between the lines, and  South Africa have been looking to leave its southern hemisphere partnership and play in European competitions, given the similar time zone and more money on offer.

  • Reds Revival

    Hardly surprising news that SA want to move up north, but what was surprising was that I read elsewhere that they are planning to swap the Cheetahs into Super Rugby to fit their four best teams into the newly expanded Pro 16. They really do believe that everyone else is there for their own convenience.

    • Yowie

      Although, if someone wants to blame New Zealand for something we shouldn’t dismiss that too quickly. That’s my policy on most things that go wrong anyway.

      • Custardtaht

        Hitler even blamed the kiwis

        • Yowie

          but he did believe in the superiority of the black uniform team over all others.

        • Damo

          All because the Fuhrer detested chocolate fish.

        • Yowie

          Who can forget that excited delivery at the Nuremburg rally:

          L & P Softdrink ist Scheisse!

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          He’s not totally wrong there

        • Yowie

          Eh, it’s fine. Not that different from lemon squash.

          [Let the record show that the Australian was on the anti-Hitler side of the discussion….]

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Pfft WW1 and thePrussians Wars were also our fault. Hitler was a pussy

        • Yowie

          Well Archduke Franz Ferdinand was shot at from the side while Nigel Von Owens was in charge of motorcade security!

          The hit has Kiwi fingerprints all over it.

        • Alister Smith

          and the assassin, Gavrilo Princip, was a member of the Black Hand (aka the All Black Hand – the one that reaches into the ruck). I suspect Princip’s family later settled in the greater Canterbury region and started farming sheep.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          You two are gooooood. I’m getting a new view of history I had never considered

        • Yowie

          We might be onto something. Forget Qanon, 5G and all that rubbish. The new conspiratorial world view is that a secret cabal of New Zealanders have been pulling the strings on world events (and drinking children’s blood etc.) since way back.

        • Nutta

          It’s why they let the world believe they are actually Australians – hiding their identity and ownership of pizza shops. But don’t stress, Grand Wizard Dutton is well-aware of their cunning plans. Stand back and stand down lads.

        • Yowie

          Worse than that is the general affable and good-humoured façade that most New Zealanders put on (and seem to maintain through their whole lives) in order to conceal their true natures. The duplicity makes me sick.

        • Alister Smith

          So not “The Boys from Brazil” but “The Boys from Blenheim” – maybe an obscure reference sorry but it was one of the few NZ towns of any size starting with B and I thought I needed the alliteration

        • Custardtaht

          You forgot Brisbane.

        • Alister Smith

          Not sure whether Brisbane or Broadbeach would have the biggest NZ population but both would probably have more Kiwis than Blenheim.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Bahahahwahaha that is gold

        • Reds Revival

          I believe his brother was the famous German runner, Jesse Von Owens.

        • Yowie

          I’m not sure this is the perfect time in history to mix up inspirational runner Jesse Owens as being one of ze Germans

        • Reds Revival

          Austrian, perhaps?

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        I’ll take that. Whether it’s true or not I’m happy to be your shoulder to lean on in difficult times

  • Reds Revival

    On the mention of Shute Shield finals, I thought I would copy my post from an article a couple of days ago (which unsurprisingly, hardly anyone read).

    Gentlemen, forgive me as I am going to have a “mini rant” under the cloak of “it’s my opinion, and I know not everyone is going to agree with me”.
    Greater Australia (i.e. those living outside of Sydney), have had to abandon the NRC to promote the Shute Shield, because NSWRU and the warring factions within SRU couldn’t get their head around how to make the most of it. Every other state got on board with it, and even the basket case that is QRU were able to identify that it was a great vehicle for player development, as we are starting to see in this year’s Reds.
    So we are now condemned with a much greater dispersement of talent across many more teams. As someone from FNQ, I couldn’t really care less about Sydney or Brisbane teams, as I have no buy in. Qld Country were my team, but coming from a regional city in Australia, I am used to the widely held belief that the civilised world ends at the outer limits of the capital cities. I mean, it’s not as though there have been any Wallabies from the Country…
    I have been told that there wasn’t enough tribalism around the NRC teams (after only a few years), but there was huge support for club teams. However, on a forum full of avid rugby supporters, an article about the excitement of the last few rounds of Shute Shield can only garner six comments (and one rant). Excuse me if I don’t feel the excitement of a national club competition (pushed by self interested parties in Sydney). Rant over.

    • Alister Smith

      Good rant. well executed. As I have said below, if we don’t have a future as part of the NZ comp I reckon we move to NRC as our premier domestic comp (with possible additions). We could still play an origin series (with more than two states if justified) to allow the tradition of NSW and Qld to continue (other states are one teams so would be less effected) and allow people to represent their states rather than a club franchise.

      I wouldn’t mind if the Cheetahs though, for instance, came into our Super Rugby comp to make up a 6th team. it would add something, it would be only one trip for each of our teams per round and, it would only mean one game out of the time zone every fortnight.

    • Custardtaht

      Just to clarify, the civilised world does end at the outer limits of the capital cities.
      Having travelled extensively through regional Australia, Mad Max is a documentary.

      • Hoss

        Your my MVP this year Tah’t just ahead of Yowie – based on geography.

        • Yowie

          Ladies and gentlemen of the jury. The pro-Waratah bias writ large. I rest my case.

        • Hoss

          There’s a reason its called the Premier State,sorry its just science.

          Interesting fact – At Federation the original wording to the initial Declaration of Independence was altered as it caused a stir.- it had read

          ‘that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights to live in NSW’

        • Yowie

          “…and those that are endowed in other areas shall live in Queensland, where they shall have dominion over all of the other States and Territories by manner of various fruitbat politicians with disproportionate airtime on the commercial networks or yellow-themed advertising in the Nation’s newspapers”

        • Nutta

          Yeh but it also included New Zealand as a state to be included in the federation. So that doesn’t necessarily make it either accurate or a desirable document.

        • Custardtaht

          Nah, this is your forum we just get to post in it.

        • Hoss

          No mate. GAGR is a broad Church. All views welcome even those from lesser states (all non-NSW) and territories (snigger), which are basically just large villages or in certain cases an extremely humid shithole at the top of Australia

        • Custardtaht

          You sir are the living embodiment of the benevolence and humbleness of NSW. I feel those other states and territories fail to appreciate the greatness of NSW and all that NSW does for them.

        • Yowie

          I didn’t even downvote that Kiwi troll with all his semi-literate carry-on, but you’re making it very hard for me to stick to this “not downvoting” policy.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Troll? Bit harsh mate

        • Yowie

          Haha, no, that chap whose visits seem to correspond with school holidays.

        • Custardtaht

          Qld and Qlders are so backwards, a down vote is an up vote and up vote is a down vote.

        • Yowie

          Don’t be confusing us humble folk with your slick city talk now.

        • Damo

          Yowie, I think I spotted an insult in there somewhere. I think it’s time we sent some boys round to curdle some custard if you know what I mean.

        • Yowie

          Agreed. I’ll get my pitchfork.

        • Custardtaht

          That reminds me of that science experiment on confusion they conducted in Qld. They put Qlders in a room with seven shovels and then told them to take a pick.

        • Hoss

          One must remember to walk amongst the common folk on occasion to let them know how inferior they truly are.

        • Alister Smith

          I believe it was all NSW at one stage Hoss before we chopped off the unnecessary bits.

        • Nutta

          Jeezuz don’t say that to a South Australian. You will have to listen to all their non-convict, Germanic crap.

        • Andrew Luscombe

          Not WA.

          But NZ was once part of NSW.

        • Alister Smith

          always left out then Andrew….that must be the issue with ARU/RA. You just need to send them a new map from 1901, they are still using the one from 1832

      • Alister Smith

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      • idiot savant

        Civilisation is over rated.

    • KwAussie Rugby Lover

      I am with you 100%. Despite the push coming from even sites like this the standard of rugby in these games is not good and the only people interested in them are the small number of people who live in the local areas of the clubs. They offer nothing to the development of players who will grow into good test players and even living in Sydney I couldn’t give a shit about them. If RA thinks this is the future of rugby in Australia then they are delusional and condemning the Wallabies to a teir 3 level team. I think a NRC competition with an end of season Trans Tasman club championships leading into Super Au followed by a TT Super top 4 play off would be awesome. Shute Shield is a feeder and nothing more and those who think it is better need to pull their heads out of their arse

      • UTG

        I’ve never heard anyone say that the Shute Shield is the future of rugby in Australia.

        Also, you don’t give a shit about the comp but you know for a fact it’s poor quality? Hmm.

        These wild conspiracies about how NSWRU are plotting the downfall of rugby in Australia are getting more fanciful.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Ive seen the games because they’re on TV and so that’s how I know how poor the quality of the rugby is. I don’t give a shit about it because I don’t care who wins. Pretty obvious I would have thought but sorry for not explaining it better

        • UTG

          Just seems strange to me that someone with such a visceral hatred for a club competition would have followed it so closely to be able to give sweeping pronouncements on the quality. But maybe you’re a sadist and who am I to kink shame…

          Anyway, all a bit OTT in my opinion. It’s just a club comp like any other in Australia. I really don’t think there are forces of darkness pushing for it to become the centre of Australian rugby.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          It’s not a visceral hatred at all. I actually like the rugby and it’s like the suburban games I referee they are a lot of fun with people just enjoying themselves. What I hate is this idea that somehow it’s better than it is and that if only RA supported this better the players would be able to step up straight into the Wallabies and create a world class winning team. Sure there were the off players that managed that a long time ago when rugby was purely fun, but in this professional era the Wallabies need and deserve more and these people are preventing the growth of rugby happening while they stick to their old fashioned ideas. Even worse they lead the visceral hatred against anyone in Australian rugby who disagrees with them and they use their social and professional positions to bring all this into the open media. That’s what I hate

        • UTG

          There are a segment of people who think we should just build a strong club rugby competition and forget about the level above (I think that is a shocking idea) and that will translate to better national results. However, I don’t think these people are Shute Shield supremacists, they would equally argue that we should just focus on building up QPR and the John I Dent Cup to drive improvements in the Wallaby performances.

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          Yeah maybe I’m a bit generalist in my Shute Shield comments as there are the same people backing the club rugby in QLD in the same way but the SS people do seem to get more air time on the subject. I feel it’s the same people in NSW who don’t support NRC, write and publish open letters condemning RA and just seem to be an egotistical bunch of misogynistic dicks that are actually assisting in bringing rugby down over here not promoting it

        • UTG

          Is it people or is it just Alan?

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          I think it’s more than just him although he really is the lead figure for sure. That stupid letter that Papworth wrote to all the clubs in Australia, except it wasn’t ll of them was part of it.

        • Alister Smith

          I enjoy watching the Shute Shield games on TV. I am from NSW but not from Sydney and, having played a little in Brisbane, have more of an affiliation there. I enjoy the games, and even though I have no affiliation with any of the Sydney clubs, I find that there are some that I like to watch and some that I don’t, some that I enjoy their style of play more than others. I don’t think it should be our highest level of rugby in the country but I think, what it does, it does pretty well, the coverage is good and the commentators do a good job. If that was the only rugby that I had to watch (which was the case for a number of years before I took out Kayo) then that would be OK. Still I will happily go to the park and watch a subbies game etc or, for that matter, go and watch U8s or U12s. It’s all rugby and its all pretty good for me.

        • Reds Revival

          While purely hypothetical, I get the feeling that if one or two of the NSW NRC teams had won a Grand Final, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. The NRC would be locked in for years to come. However, because it hasn’t worked for NSWRU, or rather, NSWRU haven’t made it work for them, then the rest of Australia is consigned to it’s abolishment.

        • Perth girl

          Yep

        • UTG

          I don’t think the NSWRU care that much about the results of the NRC.

    • Nutta

      I’m not happy with that rant. I’m calling you out.

      You need to go harder man.

      For the record I completely support your position.

      But I’m DARING you to go back, skol a half bottle of rum if you need to, and then have another crack.

      I’ll wait here…

      • Reds Revival

        I would Nutta, but today is the first day of OcSober (yes, I know – complete stupidity to do it in the month of Bledisloes).

        • Nutta

          We seriously need to talk about your life priorities Dude. I’ll shoot you my consultancy fees. But if it helps I do have a discount arrangement with Bunnings for buying cement by the teaspoonful…

    • IIPA

      Not sure what to make of today’s thread. It’s all apocalypse and Shit on the Shute.

      RR – I bet if I wrote an article on here about women’s rugby or the 7s it would get sod all comments. Does that mean it’s unworthy or not supported at all ? Trust me last few years there have been plenty of NRC articles on the Roar where the ‘the roar’ was more a whimper.

      I don’t overly have a dog in this fight. No way RA could have afforded to run the NRC this year anyway. Like you I’m unsure of the traction a National Club comp will get either.

      • Reds Revival

        You make a fair point IIPA. My gripe is not so much with Shute Shield, but with the fact that NSWRU didn’t use the NRC effectively, and that is why we are moving to the NCC (which will cost more to run than the NRC with the number of teams involved).

    • Perth girl

      100% agree RR most of the country couldn’t care less about Sydney rugby. I think RA will regret not continuing with the NRC, now there is nothing between club rugby and SR rugby

  • Alister Smith

    My two cents on a domestic comp. If we are looking at eventually joining with NZ in a Trans Tasman comp, then keep it at 5 teams and hopefully adding one more from Japan or the Pacific to our comp to give us 6 teams and no bye. But, if this is going to be a long-term competition (more than 2 years), then I reckon it’s time to re-establish the NRC our premier competition, and perhaps add interested parties from teams that played in the GRR if they are self-funding (or backed by World Rugby).

    • Hoss

      Agree with that Al. I reckon 8 is the magic number, 5 from Oz, Sunwolves, 2 x Pasifika Sides (based in Oz. 1 x Western Sydney , 1 x Brisvegas) or one Pasifika & 1 x team from combined Asian countries (Honkers, Slingers, Malaysia) – probably made up of ex pat Kiwis and Saffa’s anyhow. 2 rounds plus finals then a Champions League clash. Top 2 Oz v Top 2 Kiwi or simply #1 v #1.

      I still see room for GRR though as the NRC / Tier 2 Comp and i am all for relegation & promotion.

      • Yowie

        Away games in Hong Kong could get a bit spicy.
        First a player mentions on social media something consistent with the idea that Taiwan is a real separate country.
        Next thing you know, indefinite detention without charge means he might miss the finals and the test season.

        • Alister Smith

          Some questions here yesterday prompted me to look at the origins of the NZ Maori and last night, I read on Wikipedia that the Polynesian people may have all originate from Taiwan about 5,000 years ago. I hope President Xi hasn’t been reading the same stuff or he’ll be claiming the whole Pacific Ocean soon (I think he might already have that idea).

        • onlinesideline

          well I’m damn curious to know what they ate in their travels because to go from your average Taiwanese bloke to Ofa Tuungafasi is quite the change

        • Alister Smith

          They took pigs with them

        • Custardtaht

          Upside would be higher re-education and close monitoring of your health and removal of any surplus organs.

        • Yowie

          I look forward to seeing the “shout-out to the boys and good luck in the finals” in the video confession.

        • Hoss

          Not for a minute do i believe that the beloved Emperor and Holy one and purveyor of light and goodness or his’agents’ for attitudinal adjustment read these pages mate. But i am sure our gracious leader and king of kings would be most benevolent should such a slight occur and if it did any infidel would and should be rightly punished by the supreme being.

        • Alister Smith

          Hoss is this your application for CEO of CRR (Chinese Rapid Rugby)?

        • Hoss

          对.

        • Alister Smith

          Had to use google translate before the upvote but yes I agree.

        • Nutta

          高加索鸡块汤

        • Hoss

          With noodles.

        • Yowie

          Home games scheduled for the Spratly Islands?

        • Custardtaht

          The try line would be renamed to the 9 dash line.

        • Yowie

          No, the tryline (or whatever we’re calling it) needs to stay in the same place for the duration of a game.

        • Custardtaht

          That doesn’t seem fair to China. How are they supposed to win if they don’t change boundaries to suit them.

        • Nutta

          But that’s why they still use sand to kick conversions from instead of kicking tees – it establishes a new 12mile exclusion zone each time. Come the 2nd half you get shot for entering their territory by the sideline snipers. Good D.

      • Alister Smith

        Good stadium in Townsville now – I reckon we could base a side out of there (not sure how the dollars would stack up).

        • Geoffro

          Sorry mate.Lived in Townsville way back but don’t think much has changed.It’s Loig and aerial ping pong territory.Rugger has been pushing shit up hill for years to get a foothold there

        • Alister Smith

          yes you are probably right. I thought the ADF presence might have brought some support but others have told me that isn’t that strong.

        • Geoffro

          About right.I think the ajays sporting focus is more on bending the elbow at the local when they’re not running around the bush shooting shit up

      • Alister Smith

        just looking at some charts of migration (another comment from yesterday about how the Polynesian people got to NZ) and there were apparently two distinct migration paths – one from Central China/Tawian area that became the Polynesian peoples and one from South East Asia that became Melanesia (PNG, Solomon Islands, Fiji) – so maybe they are our two Pasifika teams – Melanesia – drawing primarily on Fiji with Solomon Islands, PNG Vanuatu and Polynesia – Tonga, Samoa, Cook Islands, NZ, Tahiti, Hawaii, etc. Melanesia could play out of Townsville maybe and Polynesia out of Western Sydney

        • Hoss

          Pffft – even a casual history buff knows that the Polynesians primarily entered NZ illegally from the side and not through the gate.

        • Alister Smith

          I think Cooky came in from the side….

      • Geoffro

        if I were the force or whoever I’d go sniffing around the Kings and Cheetahs for a bit of talent.Looks like they’re going to get shafted…again..by their own national body.Their blokes would be a natural fit for our western chippie bro’s

    • onlinesideline

      whats annoying, is that we will indeed go it alone, (which is great) and then after the comp is starting to reside in our sub conscious, things become familiar and its seems that we have made the break, both countries will somehow start making overtones about 2 years later that we need to start dating again because we just do better together and other corporate rubbish and a new comp will be created AGAIN and someone will get the raw prawn. Its so obvious. The only way to avoid this is if we have 8-10 aussie teams ans we are just to big to cull 2 years later. So – point is – if we go it alone, we need to really go for and mirror the NRL in scale and national breadth and depth.

      • Alister Smith

        probably just take a private equity mob to wave some cash under someone’s nose and what you say will happen exactly as you have outlined.

        • onlinesideline

          or the kiwis see the money we get offered for broadcast rights and all of a sudden its “G’day fiillas, hows thuuunngs, hey don’t know if you guys had thuuuuugt about thiiiissss but maybe we shuuuddd consiiiider some siynergiiies re both comps. Any thuuuughtsss ?”

        • Andrew Luscombe

          A Trans Tasman comp is good provided the teams are competitive and there is national geographic coverage. That means common player market and common salary cap. Otherwise it’s got to be separate comps.

        • onlinesideline

          National Geographic ? – As in David Attenborough ? – “And before the male of the species go to war with each other, one side performs a curious set of hand gestures, toungue wagging, finger wiggling, all while standing legs spreads with eyes bulging. The other side stand curiously still but occasionally one of the members of the clan clench their jaws in defiance”

        • Yowie

          “…even more rarely, the sub-species davei campesi will perform a display of kicking in a completely different location to the group stand-off. Truly remarkable.”

        • onlinesideline

          ” that location being right on the outskirts of the war zone, a place where on another occasion, this clan member attempted an unusual manouever that put the whole clans existence at risk”

  • KwAussie Rugby Lover

    Thanks Jack, Looking forward to seeing who else the Force manage to get on board. They are certainly building a team that is looking competitive for whatever the 2021 competition turns out to be. Interesting to see that NSW continued love affair with the Shute Shield and dismissal of the NRC has coincided with their drop in ability to reach the finals of any Super series rugby. Like the Shute Shield Mafia they continue to live in the past.

    My preference for a competition would be to have a revamped NRC with an end of year TT/Japan club championship of the top 2 from each competition and a Local Super AU with a Trans Tasman Top 4 playoff. Don’t particular care of it’s Super followed by NRC or the other way round. The international games would follow this although if Super led off then the NRC could go ahead at the same time as the Internationals like the Mitre 10 does now. The issue I guess is that of the NRC has teams from say Fiji and Asia or somewhere else and they are the top two teams, will that mean Australia is represented by them in the Club Champions competition rather than an Australian club, and if so how would that go down with people like the NSW elite? Almost worth it happening to see them disappear up their own arses.

    Pity to see the BOKs move and boy are they demonstrating their self interest and even shafting their own players with the way they are dealing with the Cheetahs and Kings. I’m happy for them to take a holier than thou attitude and blame NZ. If it makes them feel good and detracts their supporters from their own selfish shortcomings then go for it. Anyone who thinks that all the blame goes to just one side in any argument is clearly deluded What will be interesting will be to see how this affects the level of play with the international team over the future years. I hope they do stay in the RC as I think they still offer a good standard of play for NZ and Aus to use to build on.

  • Hoss

    Welcome to October.

    Thought i’d have a break from the GAGR bloggersphere yesterday and instead take a much needed mental health day and smell the roses. I did however scan the pages yesterday and found nothing but puerile, fairly obvious infantile humour – it was like i had never left, brilliant.

    Nope instead i took a moment to contemplate life, rugby and grab some reality TV as a distraction – what a farging mistake that was. Came across some all male ‘Judge Judy for Geriatrics’ show. Some orange, fat and exceedingly angry man was verbally assaulting someone who appeared at first glance to be Abe Simpson and was perhaps was on prescription meds as he seemed sedated? The plot was hard to follow and i am not exactly sure what they were arguing about, i heard something about health & skinheads so perhaps they were arguing over chemotherapy, but then they spoke about walls and Latino’s and mail fraud. Perhaps it was a pilot for ‘The Sopranos – Nursing Home’ series. In the end i gave up, some guy in the front kept interjecting and disrupting the chaos, which i thought was rude. When it ended someone said it was a ‘mass Debate’ which sounded about right as the fat orange one seems a massive wanker.

    Now to Rugby – how does Pete Samu not even warrant a call from Voldemort last year to discuss his omission or at least provide feedback ? Great vibe out of the camp and reading between the lines the culture for 18-19 under you know who appears to have been toxic. The squad seems fit, most positions seem legitimately up for grabs and i like Hamish Mac – bout time Oz Rugby gave a big ‘up yours’ across the ditch. We may have been shite – so there is only one way we can go – hitch your wagons NZ before its too late.

    Was your mouth out Reds Revival – NSW is THE epicentre of Oz Rugby – Tah’t & I both know that and appropriate homage and recompense is expected from those in Fuc, i mean Far North Queensland (is that even Australia anyway ??).

    Cant wait for next week – nothing quite as exciting as a Bledisloe test week. I shall be viewing the test from Hades in NT. Why would anyone choose Darwin to live in is beyond me. The feral wildlife wants to kill you or do you significant damage and go get me started on the fauna, add in 112% humidity and a large human and it’s just, well, shit.

    • onlinesideline

      Morning Hoss or as Hidin’ Biden says “Hey Man”

      “Stand back and Stand by” mate – this reality how has a long way to go yet.

      We are talkin’ a post Nov 2nd escalation and it won’t be guys in pickup trucks shooting paintball (that was fun lookin’)

      My tip and you heard it here first folks – 2 weeks out from election day, Epsteins partner in crime and daughter of Mr Pension fund himself, will drop a bombshell in an attempt to secure a deal. But it wont stop the Trump train.

      Yep the tension amongst the boys under Cheika was palpable. They did not seem happy. Hats off to them all, for training their arses off even so and giving the RWC a good crack. Feel sorry for guys like Kepu and Genia and a few others. Was a debacle really. Will be more than pleasant to see our global standing and respect return under a coach who seems exactly what we need, demeanor wise. I am still exhaling from 2015 -2019. It feels good.

      • Hoss

        Morning Mr Hungary,

        Yep strap yourselves in me thinks Nov 2 will be just the tip of a very nasty, violent, prolonged and shameful period for the Sceptics and unfortunately for us. A pebble dropped in the middle of a pond has ripples that reach all edges.

        On what planet does a President of the Divided States of America call a white supremacist entity to be ‘stand by’ and not be removed from office for it.. FFS, the only reason he hasn’t died of lead poisoning is cause all the nutters with guns vote for him.

        Mark my words mate – this is going to end in tears and blood.

        • onlinesideline

          not taking sides but Dopey saying Antifa is just an idea is right up there too but yes not like giving a green light to the proud boys but close. The problem in my mind is the potential for a conflation of events that could lead to some serious serious carnage, A prolonged Covid going well into next year at least, a global resistence to lockdown across the world turning to real violence, as people see property and stocks completely crash, all the main cities across the USA basically being lawless shootouts, kids having to stay at home due to violence reaching suburbia, the Chinese v USA being potential big problem. And the always ever present potential of something utterly weird and unexpected to happen that was totally unimagined along lines of , “when it rains it pours”.

          Tell ya one thing. If there is a smooth transtion of power, teh Virus starts to abate and teh markets dont completely tank, the world should get on its knees and say a collective prayer because things are not looking good. Budapest is apocolyptic and my bet Europe leads the way. They dont do 2 trillion surpluses. It was on brink before but now – my goodness. Strap in and enjoy the rugby before Christmas because come December 21 property forbearance is over and it will be 2008 all over again.

        • Custardtaht

          I’ll give sleepy joe one thing, at least he believes even poor kids can be as smart, talented and as wealthy as white kids.

        • onlinesideline

          Well one could argue that the right also believe that, the difference is around how to get to that wealth. The right argue it should be on merit and merit alone, the left argue, that despite merit, they are somehow hamstrung by a system that works against them.

          Im a firm believer that the truth is usually somehwere around the half way line. Maybe the problem with all of this is the very nature of 2 party adversarial politics. The politcal spectrum is destroying us because its all or nothing. Im completley right and they compllety wrong and vice versa. Can you imagine the benefits of compromise in the world ? Its non existent these days and is probably where the key is hidden.

        • Custardtaht

          Well said. The all or nothing approach has infected all aspects of society. My sister in law and husband firmly believe that compromise means one party must cede to the other and apologise for disagreeing. The idea of meeting in the middle is not acceptable .

        • Yowie

          You should set your husband straight on that.
          Dunno what you can do about your sister in law.

        • Custardtaht

          Should read her husband. Can’t do anything about them, as Billy ray Cyrus sings, ain’t nobody tell them nothing, you can’t tell them nothing. Probably the two dumbest @#%&$ I’ve ever met, yet somehow think they are the smartest people in the world.

          My missus and I have no such problems, we work as a team and do it her way.

        • onlinesideline

          that was funny

        • Geoffro

          He aint sleepy FFS , he’s old.I’m no spring chicken,have mellowed some towards everyone ‘n all that, but the fact is most 79 year olds would be more comfy in a nursing home than the Whitehouse.(apologies to David Attenborough who is my absolute hero)

    • Reds Revival

      Last time I checked Google Maps, the Hunter Region is based outside of Sydney, and therefore does not exist, or have any relevance to the SRU (who the NSWRU report to).
      With regards to my invisible place of abode, it as about to become the capital of the newly formed North Queensland’s Peoples Republic of North Queensland (or NQPRNQ for short – it just rolls off the tongue, doesn’t it?). As a capital city, it will suddenly spring into existence, and we will have 11 Wallabies in the frame for this year’s TRC.

      • Hoss

        If i may.

        Those in the Hunter know it’s our coal royalties that pay for Latte-Lands lifestyle. It’s the toile of our back, the sweat of our brow, the environmental ravaging of our lands and the forfeiting of the next generations future and the black-lung of our children that feeds the economic powerhouse that is NSW.

        We tolerate Sydney the same way mainland Australia tolerates Tasmania. We accept it’s there, but hold it up for ridicule where we can – unless Queensland/ers are involved then all bets are off and we start a urine extraction campaign on that front instead.

  • OnTheBurst

    It would be great to have Super Rugby AU next year with our 5 teams plus the Fiji Drua. Get some Pasifika action and beat the Kiwis to it :)

    • Ads

      Agree. Much prefer to trans Tasman.

  • GeorgiaSatellite

    “You have to be bolshie,’’ Ruthven said. “You have to go in confident.”

    I realise words can change meaning over time, but I really think he’s got the wrong idea about ‘bolshie’. Either that or ‘confident’.

  • Hoss
    • KwAussie Rugby Lover

      They are building a bloody good team mate

      • Geoffro

        Heard that before

  • Tim

    We should merge with Japan. Get three or 4 of their teams across for next season. I think it would be good for us to not just vs Australian style teams. I know Japan isn’t the strongest competition in the world but it is growing and has cash behind it. Wouldn’t be to bad trialing it for next year.

  • Reports from other sources indicate that The Force is about to join Rugby Aotaera and two or three others will join BUT not any Australian sides. We ‘may’ be invited for 2022 if we want to lick the Kiwi’s boots. For all of us who supported The Force and sympathised with the treatment thay had in the past, I guess this is Forrest’s pay-back. The word from RA was Australia would stand united but divided we fell.

    A fond memory, before the days of Super Rugby, I saw Queensland beat The All Blacks and The British Lions. Also say a guy named Peter Grigg, from Townsville, score for the Wallabies on his very first touch of the ball against the ABs, and in a series where we won the 1st and 2nd test. Great memories of great tests.

  • Mishad

    pretty funny timing. I just broke up with my south african girfriend this week :(

  • Jessie Houle

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