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Thursday’s Rugby news sees the Wallabies return to Eden Park, as they look to get their hands on the Bledisloe Cup, meanwhile the Springboks are yet to make a decision on the Rugby Championship, and the Shute Shield gears up for preliminary finals.

 


Breaking the hoodoo

Wallabies Fans

On Sunday the Wallabies will face one of their biggest challenges in the modern era when they attempt to beat the All Blacks in Eden Park for the first time in 34 years.

The Wallabies haven’t won since 1986, but are buoyed by last weekend’s thrilling 16-16 draw in the first Bledisloe Cup Test in Wellington.

Former Test centre Daniel Herbert believes the Wallabies can break the Eden Park hoodoo.

“If you ask (then Wallabies captain) Andrew Slack what his guys did in 1986, I don’t think there’s anything different to what they did in that game to many others. They just got it right on the day.

“Our guys now have just got to get it right on the day.”

In saying that, Herbert is under no illusion about the tenacity of the All Blacks, and agrees the Wallabies need to be wary of a backlash.

“We’ve had a few false dawns in the past so you just hope they back it up this week but they played with a hell of a lot of commitment, and they showed they’re fit.

“New Zealand will be better this week. They won’t take too kindly to that result, but our guys have lot of potential as well, and you’d like to think Australia has a lot of improvement in them as well.”

Incredibly, no current Wallaby was alive the last time the Wallabies defeated the All Blacks at Eden Park.

With a near-capacity crowd of 47,000 expected for Sunday’s second clash, the Wallabies are walking into a potential bear-trap, with Trans-Tasman hostilities at an all-time high.

Journalist from both countries have been stoking the fires, with players even throwing some cheeky barbs in the lead-up to this fiery clash.

Room to improve

Allan Alaalatoa during Wallabies training.

The Wallabies are looking to lift their performance against the All Blacks, with many players of the belief that the team can go to another level.

Wallabies prop Allan Alaalatoa rated last weekend’s performance “probably a six” out of 10, reflecting the sentiment around the team that they have plenty to offer on the international stage, after a change in perception instilled in them by new coach Dave Rennie.

“The initial feeling when we walked into the change room was disappointment and I think that’s set the tone for us this week,” Alaalatoa said. “The boys probably weren’t pleased with not coming away with the win and that attitude has been taken into this week in the way we apply ourselves.

“Little things hurt us, especially our breakdown, and some areas in our set-piece where we can continue to be better and more clinical at. That’s definitely areas we’ve addressed yesterday in our review and we’re working hard at towards this week.”

The team can not afford to go off the boil like they did last year, when the All Blacks hammered the Wallabies at Eden Park after being shown up in Perth. Whether its lip service or genuine belief, the Wallabies are keen to show that last weekend’s result was no flash in the pan, and are looking at combatting the All Blacks typical retaliation following a surprise result.

“That’s definitely something we expect from them [for the All Blacks to bounce back], especially going off the last couple of years,” Alaalatoa said. “That’s something we have addressed already, so the best thing about last week has been we get to look at our learnings, understand where we could be better and how we can be better and make sure we apply that throughout this week. We want to go out there with more intent than we did last weekend.”

Following the game, the All Blacks have been roasted by supporters and the media, and have been extremely critical of their own performance, with hooker Dane Coles stating the All Blacks forwards were “parking up having a holiday.”

What changes, if any, should Dave Rennie make to side for this crucial clash?

Springbok no-show

Pieter-Steph du Toit on the burst. (Photo: Tom Offer)

Another day, another report out of South Africa about the Springboks participation in the Rugby Championship.

It has been revealed that the world champions will not fly to Australia as expected this weekend, casting further doubt that the team will make their first fixture on 7 November, and suggests they may not compete in the tournament at all.

The SARU has not yet confirmed they will even come to Australia, and SANZAAR has imposed a Friday deadline on South Africa to confirm whether they will play.

“The SANZAAR member unions have agreed to provide South Africa Rugby with an additional 48 hours to finalise its internal stakeholder discussions,” said a SANZAAR statement.

“This will now delay the scheduled departure of the Springboks from South Africa to Australia. SANZAAR will provide an update on the resolution of these discussions and a timetable for the Springboks participation in The Rugby Championship when available in the coming days.”

South Africa has expressed concerns about sending the Springboks over, citing concerns over about player welfare. Are we buying that rhetoric?

Tournament organisers are now scrambling to come up with a solution should the Boks pull out.

SANZAAR has already moved the Australia and New Zealand Test forward to 31 October, but are hopeful that the Springboks will join the tournament, with the belief that the financial blow to not only SARU but other unions will be enough of a motivating factor to compete, with tens of millions of dollars on the line in the form of broadcast dollars.

Play-off time

Gordon win the Minor Premiership in 2020.

After a thrilling final round to Shute Shield’s regular season, the preliminary finals have now been determined.

Northern Suburbs take on Sydney Uni at their adopted home ground at Pittwater Rugby Park at 1.55pm in the first game of a double-header on Saturday. Norths are one of the form teams in 2020, but suffered a surprise loss last weekend at the hands of the Rats, and are up against last years defending champions.

Norths finished just ahead of Uni on the table, but the Students were one of just three teams to take a win off Northern Suburbs this season, winning 34 to 15 in round 12.

Later that arvo, minor premiers Gordon take on a Galloping Greens side still smarting from a heavy loss from Easts last round.

Gordon finished with an 11-1 win loss record to finish the season, a remarkable improvement from last year.

Both sides will be looking to push through the finals, with neither side making the play-offs in 2019.

The odds are stacked against Randwick if their regular season form is anything to go by, with Gordon thrashing them 42-15 in round eight.

On Sunday, Easts Suburbs go up against Eastwood at 4pm.

The last time these teams met, Eastwood ran out 20-17 winners in round 4.

Easts hit their strides in the second half of the season after a number of Super Rugby players rejoined the squad.

They met in the preliminary final last year, with Eastwood beating the Beasties 24-21.

 

  • KwAussie Rugby Lover

    Thanks Jack.
    Must admit I’m a bit nervous about this game. I still believe the ABs can do it but even at this early stage Rennie has got the Wallabies going well. Take that with some Cheika like selections for the ABs, a couple of injuries to key players and Gus not having a great season in the middle and things aren’t that rosy for the ABs. I’m pretty sure the ABs can see a marked improvement in their decision making and I’m sure Reiko will never place a ball like that again so I’m still confident of a win. Just a tad nervous
    I hope the Boks do get to come over. I’m sure both they and the Argies will struggle a bit but I also think with everything on the line the Boks will still be dangerous.

    • Happyman

      Hi mate is see the state media is at it in NZ

      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/one-of-the-bigger-talking-moments-were-some-of-the-late-hits-off-the-ball-incidents-and-that-all-blacks-coaches-unhappy-with-australian-aggression/

      Funnily enough I see the context is that is how the chiefs played when Rennie was coaching them. I did not read anything about that at the time.

      I really don’t care about South Africa I see our future as lying elsewhere. Truthfully if they don’t come it might make the ANZAC administrators realise that if we don’t look after each other we will become irrelevant.

      Still looking forward to this weekend it should be a great game and the Wallabies are playing with house money. I watched the breakdown last night and it is fair to say they thought they were very lucky.

      Also I look at last week this way when was the last time you can recall Australia coming back into a game against tier one opposition by scoring the last two tries. We seem to have a bit of starch about us. I know it is only one game and even if we lose this weekend if they stay in the fight I will be happy.

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        The media shit me. I get they have a job and they need to write stuff to get readers and all that but I’m sure if they really were good journalists they’d find good news stories that people would want to read. No wonder rugby struggles when all they can do is write negative stories.

        I just love the challenge of SA. I think that both of us can be thankful of those challenges as they have helped us develop the skills and play that we’ve done. I’ll miss them and even if they do go North I hope we get to play them annually at test level.

        Great to see the Wallabies play so well and see the real team instead of the shit that’s been delivered over the last 6 years.

    • Ian

      I would like the saffas to turn up, just so we could put some context around the position we are in ourselves. My estimation of world rankings is vastly different to the official rankings, and I would love the opportunity to have that reflected in a few key line ups.

  • Greg

    Thanks Jack.

    Lots of talk from many people about the game on the weekend.
    I hope that Gold are up for two in a row. If they are….. then I think black is in difficulty.

    I haven’t seen many interviews with gold players this week about training well, and being confident, and…. the relative silence is golden!

  • onlinesideline

    if we can squeeze a win in at Eden Park, then next time we play them will be at ANZ for a chance to bring home the Bled. Home crowd, 3rd game on trot, no surprises, pumped for some silverware. Could be our best chance in a long time.

    Re bokkes, I disagree with most here. I think we need the Boks in the RC. In regards to Super, they can go to Europe, but in terms of internationals in the RC, playing these guys is right up there. They are Southern Hemisphere heavyweights, with awesome tradition. Not playing them at Super level, will make the tests against them interesting again.

    • Missing Link

      If we can win at Eden Park, we have won the battle of the mind.

      I wonder how much losing to England in the world cup affected them mentally? They hadn’t lost a world cup game for 12 years.

      • Reds Revival

        I would go so far as to say that if we can even really challenge them at Eden Park (with a close loss), then we will have won the battle of the mind. The Wallabies just need to front up and make a few changes to their tactics this week. All of the chat so far has been on the few changes we need to make to click, but that assumes the ABs will play the same way, which they definitely won’t. This will be a good indicator of how smart Rennie is.
        I remember after Link won the game at Suncorp, he told the AB’s to bring their A game, and then tried to play the same as Suncorp and got smacked. I rate Link as one of the most tactically savvy coaches ever, so I hope that Dave Rennie has gone back that far to review the mistakes of the past.

        • Who?

          When Link won the game at Suncorp..? Sadly, I don’t believe Link ever beat the ABs. He had a draw, in Sydney, in 2014 (Foley and Phipps were ordinary that day, great performance from the pack, similar to 2015 when Cheika’s Wallabies won that game), and a 1 point loss (his last game), but I can’t recall a win. :-(

        • Ads

          So Rennie will get the arse like link then?!

        • Who?

          Penney’s not am Aussie, hasn’t won SR, and there’s not many Tahs in the squad.

          Interestingly, no SR winning Kiwi coach this decade has been head coach of the ABs. In fact, amongst SR Winning head coaches, Rennie’s the most recent Super winner to be a head coach. With the Wallabies. He won 2012-13. The guy who won 2014 preceded him as Wallabies coach (Cheika). The guy who preceded the 2014 SR winner at the Wallabies was the guy who preceded Rennie as SR winner, in 2011 (Link). The coach who won in 2009 and 2010 never coached his national team (though the losing coaches from those finals Foster and Coetzee, respectively – both did, Coetzee being a failure and Foster…). The guy who won in 2008 immediately went to coach the Wallabies…

          It doesn’t really mean that much, but it’s interesting to see that the Wallabies have been the ones taking Super Rugby title winning coaches, not anyone else.

      • Ads

        You guys are all on drugs. We are going to lose.

        • Yowie

          Apart from historical precedent and common sense, what possible basis do you have to say that?

        • Ads

          Sorry!

        • Hambone

          Normally Id be right there with you. But I think rennie has been plotting and planning for this particular hit out. As he called it in the post match conference, its just a pitch, same sized field etc..
          the realist in me knows its the holy land of nz ruggers, and the game they bring with it at this particular field. But there is something in the air and it tastes different than after that Perth hit out last year. I have a feeling the boys will turn up this week, and whilst I don’t wish ill on anyone, whitelock on concussion, wouldn’t be a bad name missing from their team sheet to help add some weight to the wallabies mission ahead.

        • Ads

          I hope I’m wrong. But I doubt it. Maybe they don’t have the aura of years gone by, but I also think we wont have surprise this week. The new guys will get found out a bit. The breakdown wasn’t great and the lineout average. Again – hope I’m wrong.

          And so far Rennie has underperformed Deans and Cheika from a results perspective hasn’t he? Think they got wins first up. But I’m old and senile.

        • Hambone

          That they did, but let’s not measure dicks on 1 test, atleast wait until the end of comp.
          Hey, I could be drinking the cool aid, and after only 3 weeks together half of that in quarantine, I thought they handled themselves well. Plenty of room for improvements on both squads.
          As to being old and senile, I’ll double up with old, bald and senile and look to Sunday’s beers with hope that the keg is properly tapped and ready to pour ;)

        • Who?

          It’s an interesting test, that one. Yes, he’s behind Deans. He’s ahead of Cheika overall (pretty sure we got smashed on that EOYT), but behind against the ABs. But that said, his first game is a better result in NZ than any coach has had since Eddie Jones. Better than Cheika, Link, Dingo, Knuckles. It’s just that no one else has been unlucky enough to have their first game in NZ for a long time.

        • UTG

          I don’t buy the whole “this is not unusual, other coaches had wins” line. Two reasons:

          a) this was in NZ; and
          b) Rennie inherited a team ranked 7th.

        • Who?

          I totally agree. Hence why I pointed out that his first game resulted in a better ‘in New Zealand’ result than any coach since Eddie Jones. :-)

        • Mike D

          Agree, to me Whitelock was the leader for them who actually had on field presence. While the others were skillful and tenacious and all talented, etc., Whitelock was the standard bearer who was gluing them together, which is far more important. There was just no-one else in the ABs team who actually appeared to lead. If BB is back in the team he might add some leadership, but he is also quite an individualist, I don’t know if he will add that settling influence for when things go wrong.

          I certainly won’t be counting any chickens if Whitelock is out, but I’m not going to write off the Wobs either.

        • Hambone

          Whitelocks leadership on the park is immense. But look behind him aswell.
          Tuipulota was huge for the blues, went missing last week.
          Scotty B, just coming back from injury might have 40 mins in him, and his shoulder charge on hoops head last year will still be nice and fresh in the boys memory. He’ll be running around with a nice bullseye on his back.
          The new blood va’ea, I think? He loves a hand in the ruck from memory..
          All of a sudden, we might be able to add some punch off our pine and leave bobby out of the 23 and bring in Hosea ..

        • Custardtaht

          Yeah, the No 7 world ranking.

        • Mike D

          Yeah, probably. But so long as we play well, ok. Like, really well, keep the smart stuff happening, I’ll be happy. And there’s some funny pressure on the ABs now that maybe some of the younger guys don’t know how to handle. Will they end up over-training during the week to get “pumped up” for the rematch? Probably not. NZ are very good. But maybe…

        • Mica

          Not until the game has finished and they have scored more than us.
          I’ve seen too many times where teams and people who are supposed to lose have just gone in with the right attitude, a sound game plan and the smarts to adjust it, and some good old bitter resolve and leave it all out there mentality get a result that on paper you never thought they would.
          Play hard, play smart, play to our stengths, attack their weaknesses and put pressure on them.
          Come away from the game doing everything you can to play your best game and if we get the result, great, if we don’t well done ABs and no regrets!

        • laurence king

          Tad too much certainty there imo. We will improve as they will. Nerves can affect them as much as us. For the

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        Not sure it’ll prey on their minds at all. They aren’t playing England and it’s not a World Cup game. The analysis from that game is still there and they’ll know where they went wrong and what they should have done. Take those lessons into the ones from last week and it’s all good.

        • Mica

          I reckon they’ll just be angry and determined.
          Nothing will be left in the tank and the Wallabies are just going to need to go in there with a siege mentality and be prepared at least match whatever is thrown at them and then some.

        • UTG

          You can flush a flash in a pan result and move on quickly, like the ABs loss in Perth, but once you have a couple of performances in succession making the same errors they start to weigh on you.

          The ABs struggled in similar areas in Wellington as they did against England. They had a hard time getting the attack synced with the rush defence, their forwards were outmuscled for the most part and there were issues controlling territory. If the Wallabies maintain that pressure in the opening quarter there will be “we’ve seen this before” thoughts creeping into their minds.

          And, yes, NZ is a very professional outfit but top performers of any sport are not immune to these sorts of psychological pressures. Many times in cricket the best batsmen in the world will be dismissed a couple of time by the same bowler in a similar fashion and in their next innings they’ll be prodding nervously.

      • Who?

        Saw a Kiwi saying, “We hadn’t played in 400 days…” Yeah, the Wallabies lost the week before, and had a far higher turnover of players, and a much more substantial turnover of coaching staff and styles. There’s definitely some rattled AB supporters out there.

        • Yowie

          Also, the ball was a but sluppery.”

        • Ian

          “Aww, thats us good uz a wun for Aussie eh?”

    • you’ve fallen for one of the two classic blunders! The first being
      never get involved in a land war in Asia but only slightly lesser
      known: never discount the All Blacks at Eden Park!
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • onlinesideline

        I do not underestimate these guys for a nanosecond. Im just saying better to play for Bled at home than say if we won last week and we were going for it this week at Eden park.

      • Yowie

        inconceivable!

        • KwAussie Rugby Lover

          I’m not sure you know what that word means

      • Damien McKenzie has 6 fingers

        • Who?

          And last weekend, they were mostly made of butter… Especially under the high ball.

        • onlinesideline

          but he has sublime vision on the counter attack. We should not kick to him.

        • Who?

          We should only kick to him if we know we can outjump him. In those swirling conditions with White’s measuring of his kicks, DMac’s great threat was largely negated by the effort of first retrieving the ball, controlling the ball, and then working out how solid the footing was.
          If you can’t force a jumping contest, get the ball into touch. Because you’re right.

        • yeah, he didnt have a great day did he. They seemed ok at the side of the ruck tho..

        • Who?

          I really wanna pay that, but he didn’t manage to hold onto that ball, either… If he’d done that, he may – possibly – have been penalized by the Kiwi ref and Kiwi touchie for his flagrantly illegal act. But he didn’t, he dropped it, and it cost a try. :-)

      • KwAussie Rugby Lover

        Hahahaha love it Sully

      • Ads

        It’s true – I’ve never seen “After David” and Pol Pot in the same room!!!!

      • Mica

        We have only been mostly dead for the last 19 seasons! :)
        Bring on Miracle Dave.

        • wilful

          Rennie: Pick up one of those balls, get behind an offside line. In a few minutes, the Men in Black will come running at you. The minute their heads are in view, hit them with the shoulder.

          Wallaby: My way’s not very sportsmanlike

      • Brisneyland Local

        Sully you da man!

    • Keith Butler

      Nice to see the G&G feet firmly planted and not getting ahead of themselves. The ABs will definitely be up for some payback but I don’t think it will be a repeat of last year at Eden Park. Don’t know about 7As about ‘little things’, line out and breakdown are big things in my book that need to be 100% if we are to break the EP hoodoo. Go the G&G.

    • Ian

      If there is a decider, it will be in Brisbane I am fairly certain. Next one in Auckland will be a loss for the Wallabies, and Brisbane will be a win for the Wallabies, it is Sydney where we really need to recover from Auckland and put some bruises on the kiwi ego.

    • Damo

      Mate, I agree with the Boks staying in the RC. The franchises can go north- SR in it’s current form seems to be just about done and dusted anyway. Something new and commercially viable needs to be found on that front.
      Overall, I think the NH/SH rugby rivalry provides an interesting spice to the world rugby landscape. And obviously SA are a big part of that. Lions tours, end of season tours and RWC’s are all that more interesting with some north/south parochialism thrown in. I think the Boks joining the 6 Nations would dilute that- not withstanding that the business case for 6N would be improved a lot with their inclusion. However, facts are that at the moment all bets are off, so we will see what happens.

    • Hambone

      I want the boks in the RC. But this lording is even worse now with Bill under their arm.. get on a plane, get some dirt under the finger nails and build on the back of each test. Fill the coffers with some much needed doe ray mee and now that you have muddied the waters enough with tapered expectations your fans back home won’t be expecting the miracles they would normally demand. Time to throw the mighty bokke jersey on and have a run with the rest of the colonies

  • Custardtaht

    Clearly irony is not something kiwis understand. It is a bit rich to be whining about being on the receiving end of their own tactics and behaviour.

    Obviously they feel as though the ref was not watching the game in black with a little white, but watching in Sepia, Black and white with a gold tinge.

    Or perhaps the All Blacks misunderestimated the Wallabies and read GGR and believed the garbage about Aus Rugby not being to NZ standards.

    I think there is a little worry and self doubt, because the All Blacks could only manage to scrape a lucky draw against the number 7 ranked team in the world and 17.5 point under dogs.

    • Tah Tragic

      A few seasons ago the Kiwis decided the best way to deal with Pocock was to rip his head off and we were told that we were a bunch of whingers. Compare that tactic to pressuring a 10 with, arguably, a couple of marginally late hits.

      Zero sympathy.

      • formerflanker

        Add in the shoulder charge on Hooper. Penalised yes, but my conspiracy mates call it a pre-determined tactic.

        • Reds Revival

          Are these your anti vaccing, flat earth, vegan mates?

        • Mike D

          I think this is a tactic to unsettle the captain. Doesn’t work that well on Hooper because he seems to view it as a cost of doing business, it did a bit on Moore – see the head injury v Lions, and was very effective against Mortlock. Particularly if they get away with it once and then the captain’s focus is pulled onto one thing – why wasn’t that a penalty? Takes his mind off the tactical stuff that he needs to think about and feeds down disrupted mojo to the rest of the team.

        • MichaelA

          Hooper has less imagination than Mortlock. I don’t mean that as a criticism, it just is what it is. So targeting Hooper is unlikely to distract him, he will forget the hit and think about the pleasure that making another tackle brings him.

        • Who?

          Mortlock was a back. He stood around waiting for the game to come to him. Hooper is the energizer bunny – he doesn’t have time to think out there. He’s too busy chasing the ball.
          Not a sleight on either player, just noting the difference in roles.

        • Tah Tragic

          Hooper is clearly using his head to viciously attach the shoulders of the Kiwi players.

    • Damo

      Irony? “The Prince of Darkness is a gentleman”. Bill Shakespeare.

    • GeorgiaSatellite

      Trying to figure out if ‘misunderestimated’ is a faux pas or a double play. I like the sepia analogy, though.

      • Yowie

        It’s a Dubya-ism too.

      • Custardtaht

        Quoting George W.

        • Yowie

          Recently promoted to second-dumbest yank president in living memory.

        • Custardtaht

          I thought people regarded Barracks Osama as smart.

        • Yowie

          Well, we never did get to hear his thoughts on injecting bleach.

        • Custardtaht

          That was a pretty dumb statement, everyone knows you drink bleach, not inject it.

        • Yowie

          …as seen in the Pulp Fiction plot point when Uma Thurman accidentally injects John Travolta’s sipping bleach.

        • Custardtaht

          Bleach, dishwasher tablet, shaken not stirred…..really good cleanser and detoxer.

        • Who?

          A couple of years ago, I re-watched some Animaniacs cartoons. They were hilarious – constantly giving it to their dumb yokel president. Mr Clinton! If only they’d known just how hilarious and downright dumb some of their future presidents would be! :-D

        • Yowie

          He did like chasing tail. It’s probably a matter of opinion whether that’s “dumb” or just “lack of self-control”.

        • Who?

          It wasn’t that sort of thing – they did the full ‘yokel’ and hillbilly accent on him, playing off him being the former Governor of Arkansas. It was too early in the presidency (and targeted at kids as well as teens and adults) for them to talk about his philandering.

        • Yowie

          Apparently his nickname was “Bubba” Re the southern redneck thing.

          Warner Brothers would probably get letters if they had jokes about dresses getting stained etc.

        • GeorgiaSatellite

          Ah, that clears it up, thanks. Took his verbal cues from his old man’s VP.

  • Yowie

    From Betoota ( https://www.betootaadvocate.com/sports/cocky-barrister-drinking-grange-at-the-tattersalls-starting-to-feel-sorry-for-the-all-blacks/ ):

    “I just hope New Zealand rugby can remain competitive,” he says.

    “For the good of the game”

    “When the All Blacks are doing well, rugby union is doing well”

    “It would be such a shame to see the game suffer because our little neighbours can’t compete with us.”

    “I know there’s chat about not inviting them into Super Rugby AU next year, but I think it’s our responsibility as the leader of the Southern Rugby World to take them in and try and keep the game alive over there.”

    “Let’s just hope it isn’t an embarrassment over there at Eden Park.”

    • KwAussie Rugby Lover

      Hahahahaha that’s gold

    • Greg

      I think that is a direct quote with only the countries changed!

    • Brisneyland Local

      God bless the Betoota!

  • Ian

    Is Plummy calling for better policing of foul play a perfect analogy to a bank robber calling the cops because he was mugged on his way home from work?

    • Reds Revival

      Pot. Kettle. All Black.

      • Ian

        Best… Post…. Ever…

    • Mike D

      Love the way he’s trying to say it without saying it, “Yeah we’ve got to adjust to the ref, right, but hey there was stuff the ref missed off the ball consistently, and we won’t mention it, we won’t mention the late hits and the high level of physicality. I definitely won’t be saying to LOOK AT THAT HIT ON OUR 10, at any stage what-so-ever. No sir-ee, not a single complaint from me about ALL THE ILLEGAL STUFF THE WOBS DID.”

    • Mart

      Ironically he’s sounds like Chieka…keep it up, cause that’s looser talk

      • Brisneyland Local

        Yeah pity it took us five years to get rid of our loser!

        • Mart

          Not what i meant. I’m a big Chieka fan But when you’re team is in a loosing mindseat you start whinging about the refs and that’s what he did in the day

        • Ian

          I too am a massive Cheicka fan, we gotta stop blaming him for all our previous failures, he gave us some our best perfromances in history, aspects of his coaching game were certainly absent, but, we cannot discount the massive positivity he had in many areas.

        • Brisneyland Local

          Fair enough.

    • idiot savant

      Mr Plumtree you are under oath. If we can restrain ourselves to the facts, two of the tackles cited by you as being late on Mr Mounga, – for the court your honour tackles by Mr Toomua and Mr Paisami – result in Mr Mo’unga’s pass going to ground and missing his target. Mr Plumtree, was it Mr Mounga’s intention to pass the ball onto the ground? No? How often would you say Mr Mounga passes the ball onto the ground? Almost never? Then why did he pass the ball onto the ground in these two tackles? You dont know? Could it be that his pass was affected by being hit in a tackle before he passed the ball? Or simultaneously with passing the ball? What other explanation could there be if he almost never passes the ball onto the ground? Forgive me Mr Plumtree, I am at a loss to understand why you and every journalist in New Zealand think that he passed the ball onto the ground before he was tackled. For the court, please enlighten us?

  • onlinesideline
    • Reds Revival

      He went to great lengths to explain that the Wallabies played well. He sounded like a man under a lot of public pressure from their performance.

      • onlinesideline

        yeah when Kirwan went back to the idea that the darkness werent mentally up for it Fox bit back by saying they were but the aussies were just a good side with some real talent and it was just a tight game. Good signs.

      • Geoffro

        or he was just being honest…

      • Geoffro

        or he was just being honest…

    • Hambone

      Good interview, here’s hoping the blow out that clutter. But not too much ;)
      Good to hear some praise for our boys instead of how bad their lads were from people in the know.
      15% GPS increase on super rugby. That’s cray cray super human fitness

    • Dally M

      Love the way they only showed McKenzie’s highlights & left out all the bloopers!

      And how about this admission – Assumptions were made about them (Oz) having new players so they can’t be much good.

  • Hoss

    Mr J Plumtree, NZ rugby fans and with apologies to INXS.

    AB’s Don’t Cry

    AB’s don’t cry
    AB’s don’t cry
    AB’s don’t cry
    AB’s don’t cry

    When you’ve drawn and confused
    Selections weren’t right
    Well, we gave you 17years
    Now we bout to make things right

    AB’s don’t cry x 4

    Oz rugby ain’t no joke
    But you took the piss for a while
    It’s up to us for Eden Park
    Aim up and we’ll go far

    AB’s don’t cry x 4

    Sometimes you will fall
    Whatcha gonna
    Give Nigel Owens a call???

    AB’s don’t cry x 4

    The men of gold have got you riled
    Yeah, it’s taken a while
    But the mug is comin our way
    We’ve lost our fears and say

    AB’s SHOULD cry
    AB’s SHOULD cry
    AB’s SHOULD cry
    AB’s SHOULD cry

    You know you picked the wrong coach
    We know it too
    We know Moses gonna pull us,
    Gunna pull us through now baby

    AB’s SHOULD cry x 4

    Respect the sacrifice
    Before the new number one
    Now it has begun.

    • Brisneyland Local

      As always pure gold Mr Hoss!

    • KwAussie Rugby Lover

      You are a true artist mate

  • Jarrod Arnol

    When Aaron Smith makes sense in the press after the game everything is all right isn’t it?

  • Parker

    Go the Woodies!

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